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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

    First topic message reminder :

    We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

    Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

    Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

    https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


    Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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    Post by hobbit Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:14 am

    Again You evade.
    I didn't ask if You had first hand experience.

    Geometry is involved relative to the planet.

    Is Your BELIEF in a god creator hindering You?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:14 pm

    As if there was such a thing as normal.

    Yah, when Dan started speaking about portals, I knew immediately I had gone through one.

    I would jump up and down and Dan begrudgingly acknowledged my experience just cause I wouldn’t go away.

    Hahaha

    Like I was like, I’ve been shown reality, what do I do now?

    What you do is do you.

    With no take backs.

    Why are portal experiences possible?

    I see it as an invitation.

    Any event challenging fear is a portal.

    Fear is good to avoid lions, not so good when you avoid reality.

    Why must we learn?

    When I realized what I had, I let it deepen.

    I maintained contacts, a job, a wife.

    Lost a family and other friends who wouldn’t let me do my own thing.

    That was hard and remains a hard spot.

    Others so disturbed by your openness they cut off all contact demanding you desist.

    Well, they met the smelly goat.

    We didn’t save any energy to swim back.

    Yes, portals.

    The green door.

    Any fool using tech to move themselves has not prepared the ground properly.

    The portal never closes once opened.

    At first you keep your distance for fear of falling in.

    But then the portal becomes a mirror.

    As long as we are still breathing, we have a chance to know this.

    What you do with it, no one can say.

    For me, I knew I could do better.

    I knew I had compromised.

    There is no compromise here now.

    To face this and integrate it seems to me a gift.

    But others, curse me to hell.

    That only shows me, I’m on dangerous ground, holy ground.

    I’m the damn fool who will jump.

    And I hate heights.

    That only makes it more spectacular.

    Where I was letting it al hang out after I hit the portal, I quieted down and just loved my little life.

    Another gift.

    To be able to live where you are fully, irregardless of the env and others with you.

    If not you, then who?

    If not now, then when?

    Words straight from the portal.

    I don’t have to prove anything.

    I know, I know we cannot know.

    And that’s ok.

    It’s better this way.

    One might say, this is the best possible way.

    As Socrates said, I can’t teach anyone, but I can make them think.

    I can challenge their hold on their illusions.

    I can see and call out the pretender.

    It is because I love myself I even bother.

    It seems such a shame people cannot know life this intimately so why can’t I show them while having a little fun.

    Have fun and relax.

    You are gonna die and that’s ok.

    That is what the portal taught me.

    It’s ok.

    Why not my life then be a masterpiece?

    And so it is.

    My life is shining and I hope they see it everywhere.

    I want them to know, I know.

    I receive it and I don’t need to believe it.

    That’s all I got and all I can repeat forever.

    But only I know what this means for me.

    And every time I express this, I know myself in shadow and in light, a little better.

    We can improve ourselves.

    We cannot help, but we can demonstrate.

    We can do our thinking and living in a way that infects others into questioning all authority over them until they realize they have the key to their own prison.

    Then watch out.

    Every word I wrote in public happened after the portal.

    Every word since is true.

    One tree does not make a forest.

    I only know I have the power to offer the gift to other people I was given.

    To raise the greatest doubt.

    I give it freely.

    No take backs.

    And I do this with all my heart.

    Because I love this.

    Why are you all living?

    You know what you love and if you don’t love this, you are a pretending fool, the false face.

    It is time for you to step aside and die.

    Who can face this awful truth?

    The ones who can and do.

    They rest I don’t know.

    It isn’t what I know about you.

    It is what I know you know about yourself.

    We have just forgotten.

    The greatest gift is the one you give yourself.

    “No, in very sooth, not ignorant of that Ischomachus, or anything you mentioned. That is just the puzzle, and again I beat my brains to discover why, when you put to me that question a while back: “Had I, in brief, the knowledge how to plant?” I answered, “No.” Till then it never would have struck me that I could say at all how planting must be done. But no sooner do you begin to question me on each particular point than I can answer you; and what is more, my answers are, you tell me, accordant with the views of an authority at once so skilful and so celebrated as yourself. Really, Ischomachus, I am disposed to ask: “Does teaching consist in putting questions?” Indeed, the secret of your system has just this instant dawned upon me. I seem to see the principle in which you put your questions. You lead me through the field of my own knowledge, and then by pointing out analogies to what I know, persuade me that I really know some things which hitherto, as I believed, I had no knowledge of.“

    That is how the portal and all that came through it taught me.

    So anyone claiming secret knowledge is a liar.

    Anyone who says they have something you don’t, they lie.

    But your friend will help show you, that you have it all within.

    I am your friend.

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    Post by hobbit Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:41 pm

    Some years ago I went to view a crop circle not far from where I live in the shires of England.

    Whilst attending the large crop circle i was surrounded by large bees that kept flying off in another direction, I followed them to another formation in another field, it was in the shape of a key.
    Not a large formation, but in the middle of it was the bees nest, which they flew into, they them came out again circling Myself but seemed to know I was no threat.

    I checked their location via dowsing the local geometric matrix, those bees know it far better than this hairy toed hobbit.

    The geometry of that matrix is the key.

    Bees are masters of geometry.

    https://aperiodical.com/2015/01/apiological-mathematical-speculations-about-bees-part-1-honeycomb-geometry/

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    Post by dan Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:45 am

    hobbit,

    Apparently you see geometry and geodesy as a disconfirmation of God.  

    I must say that you are drawing an unusual inference.


    Chivo suggests that portals, among other things, may serve as mirrors.  

    I agree....... a valuable suggestion.  


    I have spent the last couple of days reviewing George Hansen’s Trickster and the Paranormal.  

    It is very useful, as far as it goes....... mainly dealing with the social psychology of the paranormal.  

    There is however a glaring omission........

    He offers virtually no attention to any historical perspective on the phenomenon, besides pointing out that the scientific establishment is highly averse to the paranormal.  

    He spends a whole chapter on government involvement with the paranormal....... mainly viewing it an agent of disinformation.  

    Ok, sure......... the paranormal is anti-structural, while the establishment, by definition, works to maintain the social order.  

    George cites several historical examples were paranormal phenomena have contributed to social unrest.  

    He offers no speculation as to the resolution of our current situation.  If there is one thing that is taboo, in this extensive, cross-disciplinary study, it would be eschatology...... even just as a social movement.

    There is no hint of an impending paradigm shift.  

    George implies that that he holds his own spiritual beliefs...... but clearly he is writing for an academic audience...... particularly in the social sciences.  



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    Post by hobbit Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:27 am

    Dan,

    Your god is an invention by those unable to come to terms with creation, then that god is used as a control of the masses with fear been the main blunt weapon.

    The new god is an injection based on fear, and if You don't BELIEVE in the new god You will be outcast and ridiculed.
    Onward christian soldiers marching as to war, with the cross of jesus going on before.

    I have no time for any fake so called gods, the only idiots in nature thinking there is such are humans.
    I, m a hobbit.
    Those invented gods are used to murder countless humans, and the new one is going in with a message to the RNA.

    Unless You drop this BELIEF system Your ego will always fight to protect the belief, you will remain veiled against reality.


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    Post by dan Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:18 am

    1820z.......

    Well, hobbit, had you been paying attention....... I am calling myself God.  

    Some might take this to be an act of some immodesty....... for sure.

    In retrospect, however, it will be seen as the best possible way to diffuse the vexing issues that you raise.  

    I am merely completing Jesus’ mission of bringing God down to Earth.  No?  

    Certainly, I portray some of the elements of the Trickster that George so ably expounds.  

    I am able to speak out of both sides of my mouth....... especially for those who haven’t done their homework 📚 on the BPW.  

    The issues surrounding incarnation are hardly devoid of subtlety.

    The only thing I lack in completing my mission is a portal.  

    Admittedly, this is no small lacuna.  

    I would suggest that the Princess is holding the portal in safe keeping for us...... we’re just anticipating an auspicious occasion.  

    George speaks fulsomely about the paranormal without ever mentioning a portal.  

    It could be said that George psychologizes the portal phenomenon..... in no small measure for the sake of academic sensibilities.  

    Having brought God down to Earth, the final act will be put God and all of us back up in the sky 🌌, but this will be difficult without a portal.  

    Whenever entities appear to us in a quasi physical fashion, it would be fair to say that they emerge inter dimensionally through a portal.  

    I believe that I have seen the Princess do a portal traverse.  

    It will take some wherewithal for 10^10 of us to reproduce that feat.  

    But, where there’s a will, there’s a way.  


    1950..........

    The merest cosmic possibility guarantees the way.  

    Possibility is my middle name.  

    If an electron can tunnel through a barrier, then so can we...... and damn the torpedoes.  

    Somehow we managed to make it into this rabbit hole we call the Earth.  

    If we made it in, we can make it out again.  

    Of course, we could all just kick the bucket 🪣, but let’s see if we can do it with a little more finesse..... just for the challenge of it.  



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    Post by hobbit Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:06 pm

    Dan,
    All is one, We are all one.

    The trees are one, the fish are one, just variant compositions.

    All are co creators relative to their unique field of memory, the planets been omni present over all on the planet, it is the planet I feel sorry for as it must be ever confusing given such as the games available with children loving to kill etc?

    It must have a headache?

    The trees are happy been trees, the fish happy been fish, humans can't make their minds up about been anything.

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    Post by dan Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm

    Well, it’s true that we are the problem children of the Cosmos.  

    We do know how to raise Cain.  

    All we are looking for is our raison d’être.  

    Have you run into any of those raisons 🍇 in your wanderings, hobbit?

    Being one with the One seems to be as good 😌 a raisin as any.  

    All you have to do is point us to the nearest portal.  

    You should be able to work it out with a pencil ✏ and a ruler 📐.  


    Now I’m not a complete novice....... folks have pointed out ley lines..... I have read Piazzi Smyth, met with John Michell - New View Over Atlantis and with Gerald Hawkins.... while visiting crop circles.  

    Ancient sites and cathedrals would have been located adjacent to vortices/portals.  They just need to be reactivated.  I know where we could find some actuators.  


    The way George describes him, the Trickster can act as the actuator of portals.  If Trump served as such, we understand the damage that can be caused, as most folks just revert to identity politics and tribal behavior.  

    He did little more than remove social inhibitions.  This would be giving portals a bad name....... their being used mainly for nefarious purposes.  

    Too often, the occult is just a dark art. Religions have elaborate taboos against such practices.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:24 pm

    I wouldn’t go 1000 miles near any portal that orange is aware of.

    He can actuate the toilet flusher and flush himself.

    Life is attractions and repulsions.

    There is no I then.

    Just doing not doing.

    There is no thinking about it usually.

    What does it matter what your sweet little consciousness feels about this or that?

    One realizes, Dan is only talking to himself.

    Watch him go.

    I take back everything I ever said.

    I know shiitake mushrooms.
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    Post by hobbit Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:03 am

    I am quite content been Me, living here in the shires.
    Don't desire fast cars or any such rubbish.
    Went off fishing yesterday, been very careful with the fishes I caught.

    Don't need no ruler and compass either, I can simply attune to the desired location, I was tempted to stay in another dimension as it is full of pure love, but when an oak tree tells you to "Build the knowledge", then that oak tree is in 3D.

    Those trees have been here far far longer than humans, and maybe so have hobbits.

    With the correct knowledge of universe all problems can be sorted, without such the problems will expand and those trapped will act like rats with no food and start devouring each other.

    Portals are two way , some more inclined inwards, some outward, many are small, a few are larger.

    0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144.

    The operator needs to mesh , most humans are far too restricted, a few, especially young girls are not.

    To see anything needs a return signal, without such a signal leads to been unseen.

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    Post by dan Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:43 am

    Very interesting, hobbit.  

    You might be smarter than you look.  

    It’s strange how little has been written about portals.

    What kind of censorship is this?  Nothing if not cosmic.  

    One explanation is that portals are very personal.  That’s the only kind of censorship that can stick.  

    The paradox is that even communal portals can be personal.  

    Every particle is only a portal to the Logos.  There is no such thing as matter....... there is only Logos..... sometimes with legs.  

    A particle is just an extension of the Logos.  That’s what we learned in physics....... the UEM...... unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics 🧮.  

    But wait a minute........ I don’t think particles can stand alone.  

    They partake of being only through persons....... that’s just by the definition of personalism.

    Particles exist only for the purpose of interpersonal communication.

    And what about lions 🦁 and tigers 🐅?  

    Are they here only to serve our pleasure?  

    They are here to eat us when we get off track....... just like COVID 🦠.  

    The portal par excellence is the birth canal....... rather personal.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:32 am

    What you two pretend to know is comedy.

    A divine comedy.

    Are you kind to your friends and loved ones?

    Are you patient?

    Are you relaxed?

    Are you having fun?

    I speak of the greatest portal in the cosmos.

    Life.

    Live it abundantly and deliciously.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:42 am

    1640z.........

    Yes, speaking of censorship, Chivo is our cosmic censor.

    Tell us about it, Chivo........ what’s it like to work for the cosmic woman?  It’s your job to protect her chastity.

    I wouldn’t want to be accused of cosmic rape.  

    That would not look good on the resume.  

    But isn’t the Rapture about ravishing the Monad....... talk about Logos Spermatikos?  

    And this is kinda what science is about...... ravishing nature.

    Science is just our warmup exercise.  

    The Ouroboros is born of cosmic sin....... go ask the I Am..... the onan, perhaps......


    1850.........

    Can we not just live in peace with the Monad?  

    This is the ideal of sustainability.  

    But the pasture is always greener on the other side of the fence.  

    There is that transcendental impulse.  I’m not quite sure where that originates.  

    There is that homing instinct.  

    Eros and Thanatos, they have been called.  

    They can be tough customers.  

    Chivo claims to have outgrown all that.

    I’m slightly skeptical 🤨.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:04 pm

    I shall protect her great honor 🐐 but truly, she can handle herself.

    The sweet mother looks on us shaking her head.

    Silly men.

    How quickly they forget.

    All these angry men.

    It just won’t do.

    She suggests a mad tea party to set everyone’s head on backwards.


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    Post by dan Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:09 pm

    1910z........

    Yes, Chivo has had his piece of the cosmic pie 🥧.

    The rest of us should be satisfied with crumbs off the table.

    Yes, I suspect that we are bound for the mad tea party 🎉 in the sky 🌌.  

    We might as well get it over with.

    The only thing that really need concern us now are the logistics of the party.  


    2020........

    With Disclosure, there is likely to be an economic meltdown, globally.  

    It may not be possible to sustain a civilization through such a meltdown.  

    I used to tout the Millennium.

    However, I don’t know that I ever saw it as more than a stop gap.  

    I saw it as a transition period.  



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    Post by Foresaperire Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:00 pm

    Speaking of The Queen and Hobbits...

    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_dragoncourt08.htm

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:44 pm

    Who writes those crazy biblio articles?!

    https://sacred-texts.com/ring/index.htm

    Our myths are important to our psychology and culture.



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    Post by Foresaperire Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:40 pm

    Laurence Gardner wrote:In real terms, it was little more than the vestige of a primeval belief in the divine power of natural forces, focused above all on Pan, the mischievous Arcadian god of the shepherds. Pan was traditionally portrayed with the legs, ears and horns of a goat, but the creative Dominicans had other ideas about the pipe-playing Horned One, and they blackened his image so that he was seen to correspond to the very Devil himself. However, since the Inquisitors were all men, it was determined that witchcraft must be a form of depravity linked to the insatiable wantonness of women!

    The problem was that nobody really knew who these presumed witches were - and so a series of ludicrously tragic trials and tests was devised to root them out. In the midst of all of this, the harsh Puritan sect became politically allied to the Roman strategy, implementing their own witch-hunts in England and, later, in America. Over a period of some 250 years, more than a million innocent men, women and children were murdered by the delegated authority of the witch-finders.
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    Post by hobbit Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:13 pm

    Foresaperire wrote:Speaking of The Queen and Hobbits...

    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_dragoncourt08.htm

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=omphalos+stone&qpvt=amphalos+stone&form=IGRE&first=1&tsc=ImageBasicHover

    The nine rings are exactly that and are formed by nine parallel lines to each leyline.
    Those nine lines are just over 200 feet apart, and where 55 sets of those nine lines cross around 360 degrees is where the omphalos stone was placed over the central ring , consciousness flows along each of the nine lines, and trips across from the geometry formed to implode and outrush from that central ring in serpentine manner.

    They are the nine gods of the underworld, and are part of a universal web of such, stonehenge is sited where this occurs.

    Non of this is visible in 3D, it requires the interaction of our 4D consciousness field to interact with, and hobbits are masters of such.

    The serpents are the creators, the weavers on the web, they appreciate been recognised.

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    Post by hobbit Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:29 pm

    https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/ancient-three-headed-serpent-column-delphi-rise-again-after-2500-years-020331

    The serpents twine together to empower 3D creation.

    It is in reality how consciousness compresses in a duality of spin to create so called atoms with individual fields with polarity and equator.

    The serpents enable life and retake life.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:12 pm

    Foresaperire wrote:
    Laurence Gardner wrote:In real terms, it was little more than the vestige of a primeval belief in the divine power of natural forces, focused above all on Pan, the mischievous Arcadian god of the shepherds. Pan was traditionally portrayed with the legs, ears and horns of a goat, but the creative Dominicans had other ideas about the pipe-playing Horned One, and they blackened his image so that he was seen to correspond to the very Devil himself. However, since the Inquisitors were all men, it was determined that witchcraft must be a form of depravity linked to the insatiable wantonness of women!

    The problem was that nobody really knew who these presumed witches were - and so a series of ludicrously tragic trials and tests was devised to root them out. In the midst of all of this, the harsh Puritan sect became politically allied to the Roman strategy, implementing their own witch-hunts in England and, later, in America. Over a period of some 250 years, more than a million innocent men, women and children were murdered by the delegated authority of the witch-finders.

    I have met Pan, a delicious ole 🐐
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:15 pm

    hobbit wrote:https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/ancient-three-headed-serpent-column-delphi-rise-again-after-2500-years-020331

    The serpents twine together to empower 3D creation.

    It is in reality how consciousness compresses in a duality of spin to create so called atoms with individual fields with polarity and equator.

    The serpents enable life and retake life.

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    Did someone say serpents?

    https://sacred-texts.com/ring/two/index.htm

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:12 pm

    What you pursue deceives and dominates you.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:22 pm

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:What you pursue deceives and dominates you.

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