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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

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The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by dan Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:51 am

First topic message reminder :

This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 6 thread.......

The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
should be substituted here......

Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.

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Post by FatThorDude Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:46 pm

Then they are mine.

Muhahahahahahaha

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Post by dan Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:11 pm

Ok, sports fans, so now what.......?

If the j-guy is the one guy to emulate, what should _we_ do next?


5:45.........

I would suggest that we try to go ahead with the operation at the Lake.  It would be a forward step.  Anyone who cared to do so could easily connect the dots.  For those persons who pay attention, they will see the handwriting on the wall.  Will the mass media get involved?  Only to the extent that it can be deemed to be a scientific/technological question or anomaly. The word of mouth aspect would accelerate moderately.  



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Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:53 pm

What Dan?

What should we do next?
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Post by dan Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:09 pm

Aaron,

The main action will continue to be our deliberations here, at OM.  

We would continue to deliberate on the meaning and import of the alleged mother of all paradigm shifts.

Our deliberations will become more important as I become further distanced from any ‘inside’ information.



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Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:16 pm

okay

I will start by saying that the personalism and entanglement seem to play a central role in the MoAPS.

I don't think anyone can be left behind either.
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Post by dan Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:21 pm

Aaron

Yes, personalism/interpersonalism is the central feature of the MoAPS.

Personalism flatly contradicts the entire modern worldview.
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Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:29 pm


How many portals will have to open for the rapture to be all inclusive?

What will the christian literalists think when they find out that nobody gets left behind when it comes to making our way back to the garden?

What will the guardian of the portal think?

How many would she let in?

I will volunteer to to be one of the last to go through the portal.

I can be in charge of turning out the lights after everyone has gone through......if you need someone to turn the lights off that is....
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Post by dan Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:49 pm

I take cues from the Bible when a can.

The idea of a Millennial kingdom on Earth is a major cue.

I don’t think we need to worry about folks storming the gates of Heaven.

Obviously, there are many more souls struggling to get in than get out.



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Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:01 pm

I see



So Dan, how would you say the MoAPS relates to portals?

Are portals a necessary component of the MoAPS?

With the R&P distancing themselves from you at the moment, where would that put us in regards to portals?

It was my understanding that the Princess may have had something to do with opening portals in the past.

Do you suppose with her out of the picture that portals will still be a thing?
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Post by dan Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:20 pm

Aaron,

In no way have I implied that the Princess is out of the picture.  

The only thing I have stated is the she and I are not presently communicating in any conventional manner.

What I believe is most important for us right now is to get our own house in order. In order to do that effectively, we will need to consult with our landlord...... Cyrellis.


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Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:21 pm

okay

straight on then
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Post by FatThorDude Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:25 pm

Whoever condemns another to hell is in hell.

They can stay there until they learn to love as far as I’m concerned.

Bitches!
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Post by FatThorDude Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:27 pm

Aaron wrote:
How many portals will have to open for the rapture to be all inclusive?

What will the christian literalists think when they find out that nobody gets left behind when it comes to making our way back to the garden?

What will the guardian of the portal think?

How many would she let in?

I will volunteer to to be one of the last to go through the portal.

I can be in charge of turning out the lights after everyone has gone through......if you need someone to turn the lights off that is....

I don’t want in.

I’ll live and die my years on earth.

I want nothing more.

If everyone leaves, it’s all for me Wink

I’ll just live on my mountain friend.
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Post by dan Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:31 pm

smelly,

You sound very vindictive.  

Would you rather punish, or rather evangelize love?

Jesus came here to forgive.

You are not sounding a note of forgiveness.


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Post by FatThorDude Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:37 pm

I’m kidding, kind of.

I have no grace for them.

Eye for an eye.

I’m happy for their hatred of others to be their own punishment.

I’m happy if they see, but they made their bed.

Unfortunately it is all entangled.

They have chosen poorly.

Who  cares what I think Wink

If someone invited me to the garden of Eden, I’d say I was already home.

Anytime you’d like to take all the monkeys away, please do.

They are a real pain in the ass.

As as I’m not going anywhere but here, I better make the most of my time.


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Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:41 pm

The blind donkey might be smarter than he looks
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Post by FatThorDude Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:44 pm

Eeeeeeee Awwwww
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Post by dan Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:48 pm

Cyrellis also has evidenced vindictiveness.  

I think she feels that she has been backed into a corner.  

We need to convince Cy that she no longer has her back against the wall.  

That may not be so easy, but there are many folks also acting/thinking the same way.  

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Post by FatThorDude Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:13 pm

Cy has like a lot she can throw at you.

We are all entangled here despite our histories.

I’d tell her to suck it up buttercup Wink

Her gods are my gods, her passions my passions.

Smoke a joint and chill.

Be with it.

Don’t wobble.

Smile like you mean it.



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Post by dan Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:23 pm

smelly,

I don’t quite follow what you are saying about Cy.

But what about your friend, hobbit?

He appears set against personalism.

Can you help me discuss this issue with our furry friend?

Would exploring hobbit’s thinking on this issue not be a priority item?

Can you suggest a higher priority?


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Post by FatThorDude Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:25 pm

There is no controlling center.

We can’t live without each other.

We all naturely arise together.

A connected net.

Hobbit knows this.

Is this not personal Wink

The Tao does not rule like a king, there is no princess.

It lays no claim.

It seeks no worship.

It only loves and nutures us.

It seeks the low places first.

This is the Way.

So beautiful.

Like a shining gem.

It is just like your heart beats.

Nothing to do really but be spontaneous and free range.

Come to me humbled with this awe and we can be friends.

Otherwise, I don’t know them.

If saying this makes me a preacher.

Guilty.


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Post by dan Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:35 pm

Does the Tao deny personalism?

Does the Tao deny charisma?
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Post by FatThorDude Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:37 pm

I just described it as the living web.

Is that not personal?

Tell me what charisma is next to the beating heart in your chest?

No one is more special.

It is an entangled web of jewels.

The underworld is here with us.


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Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:38 pm

The Tao denies nothing

Mitchell's translation of the Tao Te Ching states in the introduction:

"The master has mastered nature not in the sense of conquering it, but by becoming it. 

In surrendering to the Tao, in giving up all concepts, judgements, and desires, her mind has grown naturally compassionate. 

She finds deep in her own experience, the central truths to the art of living, which are paradoxical only on the surface. 

That the more truly solitary we are, the more compassionate we can be. 

That the more we let go of what we love, the more present our love becomes. 

That the clearer our insight into what is beyond good and evil, the more we can embody the good. 

Until finally she is able to say, in all humility, I am the Tao, the truth, and the life. "

That sounds pretty personal to me

If I am the Tao and I am a person than the Tao must be personal


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Post by FatThorDude Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:40 pm

It just is what is, the cosmic waters we arose from.

Alan said it better in my chillstep Wink

But the quote is good.

We just live as love.

Totally open with any.

That capacity comes from Tao.


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