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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:34 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 5 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.  

    Thank you.  

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    Post by dan Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:46 am

    You can dance-every dance with the guy
    Who gives you the eye, let him hold you tight
    You can smile-every smile for the man
    Who held your hand neath the pale moon light
    But don't forget who's takin' you home
    And in whose arms you're gonna be
    So darlin' save the last dance for me

    This is my ode to the Princess, because obviously I am her god husband.  

    Tell me I’m wrong, Princess.......

    And, Joe Firmage has been elected President of the Inter Galactic Space Council, by unanimous acclaim.  

    It’s a good thing that smelly was there to witness it, otherwise, the tree would have just fallen (noiselessly) in the forest.  We couldn’t have that, could we, smelly?  

    Of course, there was no mention of Brazil and Sgt Santos Lopez.  

    The truth........?

    Hey, the Truth is whatever you can get away with, in the End.  

    And I’ll get away with the Princess, to ShangriLa.  

    Isn’t that right smelly?  

    And Joe (and the IGSC) provides the perfect cover for the Council of Twelve.

    Tell me I’m wrong, Bob Richards.......

    And you’ll just have to eat your heart out, smelly.....

    And, yes, every girl is a Princess, but there can only be one Queen of Heaven...... and I’m getting away with her, right under your nose, smelly...... but I think smelly kinda figured that out, already.  He’s not quite as dumb as he looks.  Are you, smelly?  

    What a sneaky operation.... is Operation Newton.

    And, Ron, just keep calling us crazy...... until the cows come Home.  

    And Joe......?  Joe is straight out of Central Casting.  

    And me........?  Where the heck am I from?  I’m straight out of my mommy’s tummy.  So there.......


    (cont......)


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    Post by 99 Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:16 am

    "And, Ron, just keep calling us crazy...... until the cows come Home." (dan)

    Well, what do you expect from someone who's a strident Holocaust denier? And I have yet to see one of those ones who isn't also a white supremacist, a neo-nazis and a conspiracy nut.... that's all just part of the package deal. That someone like this is calling anyone "crazy" is, quite frankly, ludicrous.


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    Post by dan Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:37 am

    Well, 99, if I were a Jew, I think I’d be dragging my feet on Disclosure, too.

    What kind of denial is that?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:43 am

    Joe is the president and all I got out of this crumby Disclosure is a pair of shiny space pants.

    Sorry Dan, I don’t know no Princess, but I live with the Queen of Heaven.

    Maybe we all are Kings and Queens if we would yet claim our thrones.

    Straight on.
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    Post by dan Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:25 am

    See, I told you, smelly’s not as dumb as he looks.....
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    Post by RunningBull Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:44 am

    I have my throne. Smelly isn't allowed. Dan can come for a cup of Joe, though. Aaron can hang out with the wolves if he asks nicely.
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:59 am

    You can have your Queen of Heaven.

    I make love to the green woman with each puff of green smoke.

    Puff puff.....

    Poof!

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:09 am

    To turn anyone away is evil

    Never liked you anyway Wink

    Come to think of it

    I don’t like anyone
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:11 am

    Aaron wrote:You can have your Queen of Heaven.

    I make love to the green woman with each puff of green smoke.

    Puff puff.....

    Poof!


    Pretender

    If I wasn’t shooting blanks I’d have 20 kids

    The divine cannot procreate pond scum space monkey

    You can all lick my throne though
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:19 am

    You can bark all day long.

    I'm the many faced God and I'm backing it up.

    What do you got....a broken record?


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    Post by 99 Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:21 am

    dan wrote:Well, 99, if I were a Jew, I think I’d be dragging my feet on Disclosure, too.  

    What kind of denial is that?  

    Oh, right Dan! 
    The body of mind visits Japan in the winter, I agree!

    But one more thing, a river a thousand paces wide always strikes for the heart and I think you hit on that one in your above statement. Just say'n.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:27 am

    But the things we dislike
    Are the same as the things we like
    There is no difference
    Between the Knower or Known
    No difference between royal or peasant
    You are just one point of view
    Of the whole
    Simple then to make
    An enemy a friend
    Or a friend an enemy
    They mutually happen
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    Post by GSB/SSR Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:34 am

    Ladies and gents, may I presents: the cucumber portal experience



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    Post by whoknows Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:36 am

    Dang this place can be great for a laugh form time to time.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:47 am

    Especially when you show up leaky hippie muppet.
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    Post by whoknows Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:51 am

    Always happy to be of service.

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    Post by 99 Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:02 am

    Gary.... so cute! Thanks for sharing!
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:09 am

    The OMF crew is so cute and cuddly!

    I just want to eat all of you up!
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:33 am

    What is the difference between creation and destruction?

    Absolutely nada!

    Everyone clings to their programed protocols.

    All your protocols are belong to us...even the smelly one.



    Let go of all concepts

    Then let go of that too


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    Post by 99 Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:42 am

    When the smartest robot to date, called Suri, was asked "when the world was going to end" it said, Jan. 19, 2038. That's kinda freaky. I wonder how it came up with that date?
     

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    update: Jan. 19th 2038 is the date of the Unix 32-bit time overflow. Suri mentioned that in her answer to that question.... anyway, nevermind... its clear that robots still have a long way to go before they can answer questions like that.


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    Post by SurfBum Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:53 am

    99,

    Wow, that is pretty crazy!

    Thanks for sharing!

    I hope the world will never end...

    Bwahahahahahaha!

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    Post by 99 Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:57 am

    That date is only going to be another Y2K day... and we all know how went. lol


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    Post by SurfBum Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:21 pm

    From the empty space we form a face
    Breath life into clay
    Here beyond the empty skies
    Abraxis claims what has always been mine
    never born and never dies
    The moon dances with the tides
    In the flow of time we ride the wave
    All there is is nothing appearing as everything
    Meaningless and free
    Dancing fire and crashing waves
    The drama on stage is just a play
    Who is there to share this with?
    There are none here I can find
    Up in the sky a goat floats by
    Down below the devil gets high
    We rule the land and the seas but the sky is for the birds and bees
    There is nothing but a dance and wiggle
    There are none who do not dance
    There are none who do not point the way of no way
    It is all once harmonious interpersonal and impersonal network of energy
    Even mind is a myth
    There is only what is





    Don't do it unless it comes bursting out of you.

    "When it is truly time,
    And if you have been chosen,
    it will do it by itself
    And it will keep doing it until you die
    Or it dies in you

    There is no other way

    And there never was" -Bukowski





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    Post by SurfBum Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:39 pm

    All opinions and distinctions are dead things pretending to matter

    Get it?

    Nothing appearing as everything

    Mutually and spontaneously

    All opinions are meaningless

    Isn't that fucking rad?

    Enjoy the ride dudes!

    I sure as hell am.

    I will tell you a secret...

    You are dead

    Welcome to the afterlife life dudes

    .......

    Just try and keep up with us sports fans

    This is the lightning round

    Where thunder gods rule

    Where transformers and wizards play pool

    Where you are always the fool

    Stay frosty out there sports fans

    Have fun watching the games we play

    ......

    Liberation is very ordinary and can't be found

    The door is wide open

    This is it

    In the silence and the barking harmonies

    In the empty appearance

    Foot would say I'm making things up

    It's true

    We make up our own dance and rules

    The rules are very flexible when there is nothing you are hung up on

    But it is true, mind hasn't a clue



    You can never free yourself from the illusion of separation

    There is nothing you need to do

    Just ride the wave

    Parsons appears to be the most direct about IT

    I like to breathe my own artistic flair into IT

    We can play the part of the stage or the actors on the stage

    There is no difference between the parts we play

    Only apparent difference
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:55 pm



    There is no Bach, Mozart or Beethoven

    There is only music

    There is no difference between Dan or Smelly or the Princess

    There is only music

    music wouldn't be music without the space between the notes and the spaces between the notes wouldn't be spaces without the notes

    The middle way makes no distinctions

    But yet the middle way is itself a genre of music

    I enjoy all sorts of music

    It would be so boring without variety


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