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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 5 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.  

    Thank you.  

    ............



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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:07 pm

    I can't think of anything that would supercede the BPWH.

    What could supercede panentheism and love?

    I can't think of anything



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:10 pm

    Whoever Foot is

    He does appear quite stupid

    I wouldn’t waste my breath

    I know they are dumber than me

    Or they would be here with what is

    A smelly goat beat you to what is Wink

    Bahahahahahahahaha

    What do you expect

    Talking monkeys are the most

    Arrogant fools on earth

    I’m one too

    So I know how full of fear and shit we all are

    I mean come on
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:16 pm

    No one and nothing needs saving

    The only thing that lives and dies

    Is our eternal ignorance

    Perhaps our presence is simply comedic relief

    Of the boredom of the eternal nothing

    But who or what is bored

    Children get bored

    They like to play

    The cosmos is no different
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:22 pm

    Smelly claims he would not work for any 3 letter agency

    What about the SoT?

    Could we consider that an agency?

    Maybe that depends on how well one understands entanglement and the social aspect of disclosure
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    Post by dan Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:24 pm

    Take that, smelly goat.

    The goat works for the chicken, and the chicken works for the old guy in the mountain.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:26 pm

    Ha

    I am the mountain

    You all work WITH me

    No one is against me

    It would be impossible

    Only fantasies

    No, no more acronyms

    Let’s delete GOD

    An abbreviation

    A fucking abbreviation

    The greatest acronym in human history

    Just let your self go

    You can only drop it

    You can make no real effort toward realization

    I don’t nor need to understand anything

    I am the wind, where is the understanding

    That’s the thing with the vortex

    What I am barking will be found by any fool

    If they drop the act

    Once you know it’s an act

    Continue with glee

    Dan suspects if you get too close to the vortex

    You will be sucked in maybe

    But the door at the end of the cosmos

    Doesn’t need to be opened

    Death will open it for you

    Open Sesame!

    So don’t sweat it

    Just dance around the flame

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    Post by dan Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:35 pm

    “...... a sense of contentment with one's life and an acceptance of it, such that one could live exactly the same life, in all its minute details, over and over for all eternity”

    And so we do......... God’s fools that we are......


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:35 pm

    Can we forgive foot for claiming it is the end of the BPW?

    Only 70 x 7 times

    He might just be scrying something above my pay grade
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    Post by dan Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:38 pm

    ...... mine too, no doubt...... just not above mother, bee.

    No one and nothing needs saving..... save our eternal ignorance..... which dies with us, in us.  

    Praise the Lord for our ignorance...... where would we be without it?

    And, by God....... you don’t want to leave home without it.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:45 pm

    Summarizing what I barked today...

    Open Sesame

    Close Sesame

    If you look into the history of the 40 Thieves

    Another path to the vortex door will materialize

    But only in the light of the midnight moon

    The door and path quickly disappears

    It is not you opening the door

    It is you opening to the mountain

    It draws you to the door

    Have to walk backwards to find the rhythms

    Because you have to bypass your

    Monkey conditoning and brain washing

    Look, the door we just spoke of

    Magick or just what is

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    Oops, now I’m giving it all away

    It doesn’t matter what I experienced

    It only matters what you let your self realize

    You have the key to your own chains

    If you can stand with me Dan

    Here, with what is, we aren’t too far apart
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:55 pm

    Yes Dan, you find you never needed to move anywhere, and never truly did.

    Mind and thought takes you around the cosmos on a fantastical and delusional Magickal Mystery Tour.

    I’ll admit the crazy Daimons and Angels and images inside mind had me spinning and laughing.

    ...

    What an imagination

    But you are always just the old person wandering the mountain

    Looking for the door to peace until you are at peace hopefully

    But the door doesn’t hold back or hide peace

    You are the peace

    It’s a shift from bird thinking to

    Just being the sky

    I can’t explain
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:59 pm

    dan wrote:...... mine too, no doubt...... just not above mother, bee.

    No one and nothing needs saving..... save our eternal ignorance..... which dies with us, in us.  

    Praise the Lord for our ignorance...... where would we be without it?

    And, by God....... you don’t want to leave home without it.  



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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:56 pm

    Scientific materialism continues to provide us with just the right amount of pressure in the steam engine to heat things up for the ride home

    Dan is worried we may be losing momentum

    Who ever said the ride home wouldn't take patience?

    We have to let out just the right amount of steam or the whole thing could blow.

    I believe it was a build up of steam that caused Chernobyl to go boom

    There is also the issue of radiation leaking out when the isotopes of scientific materialism begins to fall.

    Some might get radiation sickness as a result of this process

    Maybe it is the radiation poisoning that causes all the gas buildup in Smelly.

    Some enjoy farting in public I guess

    What can you do other than plug your nose?

    Nothing.

    If this is just the third rock from the sun then I might have an issue with all those airy fairies

    As luck would have it, this may only appear to be the third rock from the sun

    You have to learn to detect the smoke and mirrors.

    The Queen's pixie dust will help open portals worldwide...and if you are paying attention you might be able to detect the smoke and mirrors while you still have time left to enjoy the garden on the other side.

    We will all get there together one way or another

    Like Dan has said, it's all over but the shouting

    I can shout three cheers for love and beauty and truth all day long.

    Is there an opening for cheer captain?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:04 pm

    Dan and I could finish each other’s sentences if we wanted to and we are saying the same thing basically just from different directions of spin.

    Contradictory things are never liked much, but that is the only way in this age of shadow.

    The smell of ignorance was always and will be here.

    I do naturally.

    I don’t have to explain it.

    Resonate or not.

    I don’t care.

    Smelly goat and farts are a metaphor for your ego.

    Just grin and bear it.

    Your fleeting egos, like farts, will soon dissapate.
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:08 pm

    We can bear all things for those in need

    Charity [agape love] suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. — 1 Corinthians 13:4-7


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:10 pm

    No one is in need.
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:14 pm

    I've been told there is a need based protocol in place.

    This protocol may be older than time itself.

    The Beatles sang about it

    All you need is love.... no?

    Prove to me that we do t need love...that we dont need logos.

    That would be one hell of a trick to pull off if you can do it.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:22 pm

    I do not speak of proof or truth pretender

    That’s just the ego defending its false position

    I do not say love the world

    I say acceot your life as it is

    Love is not a feeling

    We don’t know Love really

    We benefit from some energy force it appears

    Is breathing a benefit

    Some call this hell

    I don’t pick sides

    And your oncoming death

    Death is the only reason we speak and think

    You and your friends are prophets of death

    Which makes you kin I guess

    Proof enough for any monkey there

    But they don’t see it and few look

    And the ones that do go crazy

    Why would you take anyone’s word on things

    But your own and even then why

    You can’t even trust yourself

    You know this beast is uncontrollable

    Control is delusion and illusion

    Anyone who asks for your trust

    Is a liar

    Duh

    Monkeys are so gullible

    What did I tell you before you were born

    I said trust no one

    Least of all yourself

    What is said and done doesn’t matter

    Look for your self

    You are with it or you aren’t

    Good luck

    1 and 1 and 1 is 3

    2 and 2 and 2 is 6

    It all resonates

    222222222222222222222222222


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:38 pm

    Smelly claims no one is in need but also claims that he can only speak for himself

    I claim that entanglement and love are needed.

    Relationships are needed in order to get back home safely.

    We could never make it back to the garden without each other.

    The interpersonal aspect of disclosure is an absolute necessity

    We are all in need of family

    We are also in need of the Tao and the J man as it relates to and binds us all to each other


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:44 pm

    You are a fool and always were a transparent fart

    I blow you away

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    Shoo shoo now shadow

    You have chosen death

    And death it shall be

    WooooWheeee

    Evil Muppets

    Smelly thangz

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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:47 pm

    Guess Smelly is just being smelly.

    I would have it no other way

    I’m happy for him that he has no needs, or rather that he worked it out so he has all he needs already.

    At what time does the rest of the world get to work that out?

    We have 1000 years give or take

    Logos and Love will play a crucial role in that metamorphosis, along with the opening of more portals as authorized from the other side,
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    Post by Cuan Scott Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:59 pm

    Enjoying the flow today  Smile

    seems like the wind has picked up..

    Anyone got a map?  There again, maybe we don't need one.

    Do we do it the old fashioned way, by the stars?

    or maybe, just let the wind take us and chart the course..

    anyone for sailing?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:00 pm

    And muppetz still
    Killin muppetz every day
    And I wouldn’t have it
    Any other way
    You moralizing
    Deluded shadowz
    Arrogant prikz
    Your end iz nigh
    You can see heaven
    In a dew drop
    Or lightz in the sky
    And Hell in a tear
    I don’t pick sidez
    For I am fire
    Embraced in the wavez
    Of blazing blue lightz
    It shinez dark and brightz

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    BTW, these messagez today from the void were brought to you by Gore Vidal.

    I dig that dude and Jeffrey Star, one of the most beautiful muppetz I’ve ever seen.

    I’m in love...

    My wife is going to do my makeup soonz.

    I’ve decided to try some time in public in drag.

    If you are going to wear a mask, might as well go all the way and taste it all.

    Never know when you might be back thiz way.

    One of the most beautiful human muppetz to ever live.

    I feel hiz pain.

    He iz a true sacred clown.

    Hitler waz too.

    So...

    It would take me lifetimez to learn hiz way.

    I git thiz dude.

    Just be as you like to fucking be
    You won’t hurt a flea
    If you fly free

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:23 pm

    It’s very easy
    To know what to do
    Cut the rope to any anchor
    That has a hold on you
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:23 pm

    Smelly is going drag

    Could he be gunning for the role of Queen Bee?

    I think that slot has already been filled....

    Hmmm....

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