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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:34 pm

    First topic message reminder :

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    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 5 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
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    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.  

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:58 pm

    1 and 1 and 1 is 3
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:17 pm

    And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
    -Revelation 13:2


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    Post by 99 Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:59 am

    smelly wrote:Yes, falling upwards

    And backwards

    That last step on Earth is a doozy

    Then Whoosh!!!

    To the Stars

    Now I’m right here

    Before I ever left

    In my chair

    Watchin the muppets

    Scurry like insects

    What ever could they need

    Where could they be going

    The Moon

    Mars

    I’m sippin a cold one

    Right where I always was

    Nothing has been achieved

    The search though is over

    If I were watching over the Cosmos

    I’d do it from right here

    With my woman

    And my pack

    In my comfy chair

    That appears to be

    All that is happening

    Artist rendering of a black hole at the center of a galaxy...

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    Seemed related.

    It sounds like somebody's been reading The Secret.
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    Post by dan Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:11 am

    One feature of a Disclosure process based on individuals is that it must maintain a momentum.  

    Expectations on my part were raised concerning the recent trip to Brazil, and a subsequent return visit by the President.  However,  nothing materialized, relative to Disclosure.  

    There may be opportunities to bring Brazil back into the picture, but those opportunities are slipping away.  

    From my personal perspective, this is a setback, unlike any that I can personally recall.  

    Where would a setback with Brazil leave us with regard to the total process?  

    Was this setback due to circumstances beyond any individual’s control?  If so, those circumstances were not relayed to me in any convincing fashion.  

    Well, for one, the best possible world returns to its original hypothetical status. But even hypotheses depend upon expectations of future events.

    My personal status as the discloser is certainly brought into question. My possible retirement from that position comes back into focus.




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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:42 am

    There are no setbacks

    Disclosure is moving forward as planned

    It's all been taken care of

    What happened in Brazil is obvious
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    Post by dan Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:56 am

    Well, Aaron, perhaps you are in line to be the new Discloser.

    I just hope that the Best Possible World Hypothesis is central to your disclosure plan.

    Aaron and I have never had an in depth discussion concerning the BPWH.


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:00 am

    I am quite familiar with the film groundhog day.

    The BPWH might be kind of like that.


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    Post by 99 Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:19 am

    I'm doing research on a project that's related to those topics on this forum. 
    If you don't mind, could you tell us what color your eyes are? Thanks ahead of time for any feedback on this.
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:33 am

    That information is top secret 99...

    Only the highest security clearance can have access to that information
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    Post by 99 Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:10 am

    Ok, they're brown. Thanks for the feedback Aaron!  Wink
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    Post by Foot Mann Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:24 am

    The Discloser resigns, hiding behind blinds, no longer will we receive the false signs. Time for a search, to identify a new Church, BPWH is old and no longer works. Aaron it seems, may have the means, so long as he stops eating so many beans. For Smelly is near, although we many not hear, his influence on Aaron may be something to fear. No problem for Joe, he may enjoy a good blow, but the seeds of success indeed he did sow.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:55 am

    No 99, there is no secret

    I was speaking of spin with hobbit

    Don’t you see it

    If you read what I said closely

    We are talking about the back pressure in a vortex

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    No effort on your part is needed

    Once the wind has picked you up

    You don’t walk in the ground anymore

    Similar to how a black hole works I guess

    The Secret is a materialistic wet dream

    For scared greedy monkeys trying to run from death

    Duh

    Like the evangelical prosperity gospel

    Come on now

    No one can truly be original

    It’s all one stuff configured in infinite ways

    There is no teaching or author

    There is no pay off or reward

    Other than knowing the spin

    This is growing in the trees of the heart and mind

    You can pluck the fruit and bite deeply

    So sweet and juicy

    My eyes rollback in my head with no thoughts

    Mmmmmmmm

    Wonderful


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:59 am

    The Smelly Goat is no problem for the discloser.

    This is the best possible train ride all the way back home.

    Any fool could tell you that.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:01 am

    I’m the only real discloser here

    It’s personal, get it

    It’s a joke, but it’s funnier because

    The rest of you are pretending

    And acting like you are some how

    Disclosing some big truth about aliens

    Are you kidding, please, come on

    Just drop the act

    I showed you how

    Respond in kind

    Or don’t

    But I did what I would have hoped someone did for me

    I don’t care who realizes it or not

    It’s funny it can be realized

    But not in your mind or thoughts

    Nothing you believe or think is true about you

    You are the truth and evidence your self

    Joe and the public side of all this is a real gas

    Brazil and Joe and Trump are irrelevant

    Shadow plays

    CIA/DIA, irrelevant attempts at control

    Psycadelics and psy ops perpetrated by idiot monkeyz

    You are the relevance

    Unless you know that, they have you

    Then you burn bright as a star

    There is nothing greater

    What do all the words reduce down to

    Just being here with what is, relaxed and content

    I guess that’s a secret kind of, but only from dumb monkeys

    Straight on
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:35 am

    You heard it from the Goat himself.... straight on.

    Yes, straight on we go
    To the end of the world we row
    Just go with the flow
    No need to slow
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:35 am

    Dan has expectations

    Which is why he doesn’t shine

    His choice

    I AM the always shining

    Now now now

    There are no setbacks

    Bahahahahahahahahaha

    Buddy and Joe seem to be very agitated

    They have nothing to offer anyone but themselves

    I wonder if they know that

    Shrug, who cares

    Same for any discloser

    It is delusion to follow

    The script when you know

    Death is your reward

    Straight on


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:39 am

    We have just the right amount of momentum Dan

    Just pay close attention and you will see,
    the hive is buzzing loud and strong with the sound of the Queen Bee

    Perhaps Dan didn't get the memo yet

    This one is for the gipper


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:42 am

    The obstructions and setbacks are the way!
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    Post by hobbit Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:43 am

    Spin of consciousness.

    The vortex is not of atmosphere, it is created by the spin of consciousness.

    The spin of atmosphere is a consequence NOT the cause.

    But because the consciousness is not recognised by DEAD ( at rest devices) they are blind to the creator of all.

    Only living entities can detect and interact with the creator which is consciousness.

    Consciousness is spinning in phase conjugate fashion into and out of the planet, the net difference is termed as gravity, thus by locally controlling the spin field about a craft , you can control gravity.

    Gravity is time, time is a consequence of the rate of implosion over outrush.


    Your senses are operating relative to the rate normally of gravity, thus You will not see a craft operating out of step with this until it nears our current rate.

    Who would You trust with time?


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:46 am

    Life is not hypothetical Daniel.

    It’s now and visceral and what is.

    Don’t you think it’s time boy, time to put childish things away?


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:51 am

    Hobbit, too many concepts for me.

    The wind and all phonomena are symbols of consciousness.

    You don’t know it hypothetically or mathematically.

    You know the wind by feeling its force.

    Now now now

    I don’t know consciousness

    I am the blowing wind

    ...

    I understand I can’t communicate the feeling of feeling and being the wind.

    But that’s what we try to do with words and images.

    It’s pointless, what point does the wind have?

    The wind is the wind

    And Dan speaks of setbacks and hypothesis Wink

    We do indeed live in two totally different reality tunnels.

    Thank the invisible gods!

    If I had to sit in a room and work out the math and hypothesis of the wind, I’d suicide if I couldn’t blow and howl with and as the wind.

    This is an experiential Cosmos, not a hypothetical one.

    So have your experkence with aliens and lights in the dream sky and don’t think for one second you have anything for anyone else.

    Live your selfish dreams guiltless.

    I hope you have fun and don’t get too scared of the amazing power of being your self on earth or live terrified, more fun that way.

    Dan says I don’t share, I have been completely transparent, there is no goal on Earth need worry you.

    There is no control.

    Only attempted slavery.

    We need no religions or saviors or disclosers, beware any monkey pimping them.

    Burn your idols and gods.

    The pimps hate you and all life, their own most.

    They have become pain.

    They love death.

    Let them all kill each other, so what?

    Burn it all down or build your Towers of Babel to the sky.

    It will all fall in death.

    I love that.

    I love nothing you make lasts.

    What freedom.

    What joy.

    If you are not joyous, you are lost in translation.

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    Post by dan Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:36 pm

    The BPWH no longer works........?  

    I wonder what has superseded?  

    The BPWH makes no direct reference to time, so the above statement is problematic.  

    Unless we turn the clock back to scientific cosmology, the BPWH is virtually tautological.  

    Without its anchor in atomism, personalism provides the only alternative to materialism.

    Pantheism......?

    No. Panentheism.

    Whither portals........?

    Whither the Hive......?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:49 pm

    Dan, you stand with a candle in the noon day sun

    Aaron is a moron

    So good luck with that pretender Wink

    My two cents for any muppet discloser, drop it

    Don’t work with any group whose name is an acronym

    Have some fun with what’s left of your life

    Just drop all your holding


    Now now now

    Jesus suggested to do that same

    Dan you never met the J man from what I can see

    I was a Jesus freak, you ain’t one Wink

    You are a man who worships thought and dream idols

    You aren’t even in the same galaxy as the myth of Jesus

    Maybe all you science/business muppets can all just go away

    We don’t like you or want you around

    You are boring

    Compared to the machine elves

    The smelly goat is mother Theresa

    She was a mean bitch I hear

    I like that

    Maybe we should eat you

    Yes, we will eat the world

    It’s our world

    We can do as we like with it

    Mean greedy muppets will get their own stamp

    And a statue or two maybe

    To remember our folly

    But they are extinct

    They just don’t know it yet

    Didn’t you ever think I work with the one/energy

    Foot and Dan have never met

    Bahahahahahahahaha

    Bye bye


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    Post by dan Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:56 pm

    Bless you, smelly...... you do provide the subharmonics of the BPW......

    Yes, we do eat the world, and the world soul eats us, because we are the world and the world is us.  

    I’m not sure if the foot quite understands this, but maybe he’s not as stupid as he sometimes appears.

    And, smelly, once a jesus freak, always a jesus freak.......

    Yes, I’m afraid he does own us..... deny it as we will.  Kicking and screaming, he drags us all the way to the restaurant at the end of the universe...... where we serve ourselves up..... on a steaming silver platter.  

    There are worse fates, smelly.  

    Welcome to Monadnock....... or the old man in the mountain.  

    Yes, this is the vortex at the end of the universe.

    There ever was only one portal..... this is it.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:01 pm

    I can guess everything that’s happening Dan

    It’s kinda amazing

    I’m kinda fucking spectacular

    It must be all connected Wink

    I realize I can’t Superman the world and save it

    I could, but that wouldn’t be much help

    That’s the first lesson for any who would be a savior


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