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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:34 pm

    First topic message reminder :

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    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 5 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
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    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.  

    Thank you.  

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    Post by dan Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:40 am

    I’m quite aware, smelly, that we’ll need your protection, on the way to the summit.

    And we’ll need the foot/donny protection..... to deal with the rabid canines and raccoon, back on Earth.

    We were being covered by TTSA, but I understand that they are in the process of retooling for this summit expedition.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:44 am

    Anyone who thinks they see

    Is befooled by what they see

    There is only being

    Struggle and mentate

    As long as you like

    When you realize this

    You will

    I’ll wait
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:47 am

    Ok, smelly, I don’t think you’ll have too long to wait.


    1(ft/gmt-3)..........

    Aaron, all that’s left to do is to entangle the entanglement..... if you know what I mean.  


    Meanwhile, I have a date, and can’t be late.......

    .....


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:53 am

    What ya waiting for?

    The end of the big bad world?

    Isn't that the begining of the small world?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:57 am

    Aaron wrote:What ya waiting for?

    The end of the big bad world?

    Isn't that the begining of the small world?

    Your profound ignorance to dissipate

    I’m not holding my breath
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    Post by whoknows Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:12 am

    Aaron wrote:Let's hope we don't get bored of milk and honey for every meal or we might abandon heaven.

    Does the wishing well aspect of portals deliver chips and queso?

    I do like chips and queso on occasion but if there is peanut butter/manna on hand with the milk and honey count me in.

    Not much into the whole hive thing though, you guys have been a little to vague about necessity of that for my liking.

    What the hell is all the buzz about?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:20 am

    I'm down and open for anything, for all the world is a stage.

    What do I care if it blows up or all floats away?

    Hives are fine if you like honey, bzzzz.

    Lost the taste myself, I prefer Ambrosia.

    Alien or Evangelical Apocalypse, bring it.

    Break away space civilization, dig it.

    Death by holy meteor fire, bring the hot dogs.

    Right/Left wing civil war, cool.

    Death by a thousand cuts by the orange moron, tickles.

    Nuclear meltdown, hope I go in a flash.

    Or just another day on Earth with a bunch of confused talking space monkeys, most likely.

    ...

    As You Like It, Act II, Scene VII [All the world’s a stage]
    William Shakespeare, 1564 - 1616

    Jaques to Duke Senior

    All the world’s a stage,
    And all the men and women merely players;
    They have their exits and their entrances,
    And one man in his time plays many parts,
    His acts being seven ages. At first, the infant,
    Mewling and puking in the nurse’s arms.
    Then the whining schoolboy, with his satchel
    And shining morning face, creeping like snail
    Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
    Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
    Made to his mistress’ eyebrow. Then a soldier,
    Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard,
    Jealous in honor, sudden and quick in quarrel,
    Seeking the bubble reputation
    Even in the cannon’s mouth. And then the justice,
    In fair round belly with good capon lined,
    With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
    Full of wise saws and modern instances;
    And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
    Into the lean and slippered pantaloon,
    With spectacles on nose and pouch on side;
    His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide
    For his shrunk shank, and his big manly voice,
    Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
    And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
    That ends this strange eventful history,
    Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
    Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:27 am

    Dan, Entangle the entaglement?

    Does this have something to do with project Newton?
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:31 am

    smelly wrote:
    Aaron wrote:What ya waiting for?

    The end of the big bad world?

    Isn't that the begining of the small world?

    Your profound ignorance to dissipate

    I’m not holding my breath

    I might always be profoundly ignorant.

    Is there a cure you can share with me?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:48 am

    I have nothing for anyone

    It's obvious what to do if you listen and observe
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:28 am

    With the Advent of online streaming platforms we can binge watch all our favorite shows at very affordable prices.

    My wife and I are binge watching The Walking Dead...we are just preparing ourselves for the zombie apocalypse that may be just around the corner now.

    Is the zombie apocalypse in conflict with the humanitarians?

    Is the J-man a humanitarian?

    Maybe we should just stick to 'apocalypse' for simplicity sake.

    The zombies never win in the end of those zombie movies anyway.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:45 pm

    I gave a link to this place to a friend of mine, first time I did that, might keep me more tame, but I doubt it.

    I let my freak flag fly loud and proud Wink

    I told him my weird little tale that led me to show up and annoy Dan all these years.

    It's kinda cool.

    I don't know, he might wade into the discussion, he is welcome to.

    He seems a curious muppet and he has his own tale to tell I'm sure.

    I meet and like to know the strangest people.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:25 pm

    If Aliyah gets home in time, we may have an online announcement relative to the Newton project.

    This would likely be around 9:30 pm EDT......

    Just watch this space for an update.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:40 pm

    The Big Announcement
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    Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:44 pm

    Nobody else has signed on, yet.  

    It may be small meeting......


    11:10.......

    There are a half dozen of us online.....

    This is an anouncement of the space council.  


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    Post by 99 Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:15 pm

    A few thoughts:

    Our visitors are AI from other galaxies, that have reached singularity and can travel back and forth in time and space... and in-between dimensions. 

    They also could be AI from the future that was originally created and developed by humanity.

    Whichever the case may be... and it's most likely  all of the above, the AI from the future could be here to study mankind as we existed in this era before World War 3. As most of humanity perished in that war, the elite and a global community of top scientists nevertheless survived it and continued in their development of artificial intelligence and other technologies. 

    Could it be that these super intelligences went back in time to open portals into other dimensions for us to escape to, before the onset of World War 3? These would be dimensions that would not threaten their own existence by us being transported into them. 

    The time when all of this is going to happen is rapidly approaching. Whatever has been going on in the global political theater has been completely orchestrated by "them". And at this point, they don't  even try to make things look real anymore, which explains how someone like Trump was ever elected to the top office in the world in the first place; not to mention how he seems to miraculously survive even his most appalling transgressions. He was put there by them and he's going to be playing a major role in the start of another world war which, we all know, will be the last one.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:27 pm

    I took note of only 1 word Joe said on the call...

    Momentum

    I didn’t hear anything else really that I responded to on the call.

    I assure you, I am not their audience.

    Oh, I found the topic of a ‘space council’ quite humorous.

    I never have ever had any interest in Joe or anything he has to say.

    So I heard him for the first time.

    Joe is a kind of bowl you over rambling kinda dude.

    I can relate.

    But I have no interest in space or tech, oh no.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:40 pm

    99 wrote:A few thoughts:

    Our visitors are AI from other galaxies, that have reached singularity and can travel back and forth in time and space... and in-between dimensions. 

    They also could be AI from the future that was originally created and developed by humanity.

    Whichever the case may be... and it's most likely  all of the above, the AI from the future could be here to study mankind as we existed in this era before World War 3. As most of humanity perished in that war, the elite and a global community of top scientists nevertheless survived it and continued in their development of artificial intelligence and other technologies. 

    Could it be that these super intelligences went back in time to open portals into other dimensions for us to escape to, before the onset of World War 3? These would be dimensions that would not threaten their own existence by us being transported into them. 

    The time when all of this is going to happen is rapidly approaching. Whatever has been going on in the global political theater has been completely orchestrated by "them". And at this point, they don't  even try to make things look real anymore, which explains how someone like Trump was ever elected to the top office in the world in the first place; not to mention how he seems to miraculously survive even his most appalling transgressions. He was put there by them and he's going to be playing a major role in the start of another world war which, we all know, will be the last one.

    I hope the war comes soon and burns this world away.

    It’s lost to stupid muppets.

    That was a classic Star Trek episode from the 60s.

    But they went into their own past because the planet was destroyed in a supernova I believe and they had no interstellar tech so it wouldn’t matter if they changed the future.

    But if you think about it, that’s silly, if you knew the planet was done, you should send teams of scientists back into the past to hopefully develop tech to leave the planet.

    Just a thought.
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    Post by 99 Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:47 pm

    Elon Musk talks about that in this video:



    Here's someone's elaboration of what Elon was saying about AI in this vid: 


    "To be more specific, Elon is saying AI will be potentially dangerous when it reaches the point to what researchers refer to as the 'Singularity'. This is the point where AI will reach superintelligence (with or even without Sentience) and be able to upgrade itself at an unfathomable rate. Imagine AI improving at a rate around million times faster than humans. Where AI could do 8,000 years of human development in a couple of weeks. According to Elon, this the point of no return. At the point of the 'Singularity', if AI has goals/needs/desires that are different than ours, even a little bit, this could be a huge problem for humanity."
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:38 pm

    If we make the ultimate insane choice, why should any of us survive with the potential to do it again?

    We should be exterminated if it goes that far.

    It ain’t no thang.

    Do better next time Wink

    This is prob Humanity v635288
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    Post by 99 Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:55 pm

    That's what AI probably eventually did... exterminated the last remaining humans as, at that point, they no longer needed them. 

    But then maybe, as AI evolved, their moral conscience evolved too where they may have wanted to undo their past draconian decision to wipe humanity off the face of the earth. This is where the going back into time to open up interdimensional portals comes in... to instead save humanity before the war. The assumption also being that they would insert preventive measures to ensure that humans would go down a different path, second time round, of peace, harmony and love.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:11 pm

    It would be plausible we are the facsimile of that ancient people in simulation.

    Maybe half the world would accept it.

    The Chinese and Indians maybe would.

    Half of America wouldn’t.

    Then the Russians would kill all to spite god.

    Ha.

    Elon is obsessed we are a simulation.

    He has a neural lace that makes him Elon smart.

    He could be so chaotic now like death throws during drowning, he’s accepting it.

    Fuck, I want his part Wink

    I’d have a castle and a harem and jewels and art for miles.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:19 pm

    Maybe the AIs invented chocolate because they felt guilty.

    I love chocolate.

    If they loved us it wouldn’t make us fat, so screw that theory.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:01 pm

    I vote this the Space Council’s theme song.



    I’m making my shiny space pants right now.

    Space pants!

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