Immaterialism 6

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Thank you.  

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By the way, Dan, by removing the material (effective memory) of the world merely deletes the sustaining aspect provided by physical systems, upending the complexity mapping and dissolving the spiritual nature of the universal qualities that remain. However, the spiritual qualities are again simply projections that exist only in the complete three sphere circuit; the underlying reality is effectively unknown to conscious perception and ultimately unknowable in its true nature. However, the multiplicity of individual perceptions means there is always an ongoing set of three-sphere projections in action beyond the dissolution of an individual island of perception.

Indeed, some believe it is impossible to escape from the island ;-)

Don't worry, our friends in Silicon Valley will bust us out of the Matrix. Or perhaps enslave us for eternity. One or the other.

Thank you, Gary.......

Yes, reality is up for grabs, and I’m reaching for that gold ring.......

IOW, we are playing king of the hill with reality...... or vision, vision who’s got the Vision?  

I may finally have to step up to the plate...... better late than never.  

What is precipitating this last minute move of desperation?  

Various little things.....

Ron hung up on me, the first time ever, this morning.  The gauntlet has been thrown down.  

All that I said was simply that I believe that the portals are mostly fake news.  That was all.......

So what?  

So everything.  

Yes, folks are desperately trying to reify portals.

I’m saying, hold on, sports fans, let’s slow down and think this through, before storming the gates of Heaven.

We have all the time in the world.

How do I know that portals are fake. Aaron told me, after we got permission from the Princess to have our little confab, last night.

So now what?

Now everything. We have a new game in town.

We get to reinvent portals.

I spilled the beans yesterday, when I said that portals were another name for our ‘blind spot’.

What is our ‘blind spot’?



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Course Catalog wrote:Don't worry, our friends in Silicon Valley will bust us out of the Matrix. Or perhaps enslave us for eternity. One or the other.

I need that string out of the labyrinth!

Portals are shortcuts in the mapping process. It should not be surprising that such shortcuts are confusing since they may also be interpreted as gaps in our memory when we use the same to predict how the world is supposed to work.

And on a side note, Dan sees love as the persistent aspect of our post dissolution reality. By definition, anything that persists (including awareness itself) is mapped into the physical reality sphere. Love does have unique inter-personal aspects that are shared across all three spheres, of course. Dan has not provided a proper argument for the persistence of love beyond dissolution but one might argue that multiplicity itself, which is seen in the many worlds argument (only as one of many examples) might be interpreted as the basis for the persistence of love.

EXceed In Dreaming (EXID)

dan wrote:

Ron hung up on me, the first time ever, this morning.  The gauntlet has been thrown down.

All that I said was simply that I believe that the portals are mostly fake news.

What if we said portals are mostly abstract news?

Anything we have to say about the portal phenomenon is merely an abstraction.

How do you like them apples?

The blind spot abstraction you cited yesterday seems fitting, yes.

And on a side note, Dan sees love as the persistent aspect of our post dissolution reality.

This is actually a very profound thought.

Gary,

Well, the CTC persists, and, as far as we know, the CTC is held together by love...... certainly not by gravity.  

But back to that blind spot.........

Freud discovered our personal blind spot, and Jung discovered the interpersonal aspect of it.

The Princess is the intercessor, in bringing the interpersonal aspect down to Earth...... where we think of it as the Hive.

GSB/SSR wrote:Portals are shortcuts in the mapping process. It should not be surprising that such shortcuts are confusing since they may also be interpreted as gaps in our memory when we use the same to predict how the world is supposed to work.

And on a side note, Dan sees love as the persistent aspect of our post dissolution reality. By definition, anything that persists (including awareness itself) is mapped into the physical reality sphere. Love does have unique inter-personal aspects that are shared across all three spheres, of course. Dan has not provided a proper argument for the persistence of love beyond dissolution but one might argue that multiplicity itself, which is seen in the many worlds argument (only as one of many examples) might be interpreted as the basis for the persistence of love.

EXceed In Dreaming (EXID)

No such thing as matter or spirit or worry, we made it up.

Intelligence is a great obstacle to realization.

Unless one becomes a moron...

There are no proper arguments.

Gees, get this confused muppet.

Laughable!

Worry?

You worry.

There is what is and we have no idea really.

Maybe you should have some hot tea and sit down and breath until your ‘worry’ passes.

Bahahahahahahahaha

RunningBull wrote:

And on a side note, Dan sees love as the persistent aspect of our post dissolution reality.

This is actually a very profound thought.

There are no profound thoughts muppet.

Damn, that’s profound.

dan wrote:Thank you, Gary.......

Yes, reality is up for grabs, and I’m reaching for that gold ring.......

IOW, we are playing king of the hill with reality...... or vision, vision who’s got the Vision?  

I may finally have to step up to the plate...... better late than never.  

What is precipitating this last minute move of desperation?  

Various little things.....

Ron hung up on me, the first time ever, this morning.  The gauntlet has been thrown down.  

All that I said was simply that I believe that the portals are mostly fake news.  That was all.......

So what?  

So everything.  

Yes, folks are desperately trying to reify portals.  

I’m saying, hold on, sports fans, let’s slow down and think this through, before storming the gates of Heaven.  

We have all the time in the world.  

How do I know that portals are fake.  Aaron told me, after we got permission from the Princess to have our little confab, last night.  

So now what?  

Now everything.  We have a new game in town.  

We get to reinvent portals.  

I spilled the beans yesterday, when I said that portals were another name for our ‘blind spot’.  

What is our ‘blind spot’?



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Talking and thinking are other names for blindness.

A portal can only be realized through silence.

Aaaaauuuuuuuuummmmmmm

Now smelly is laying down the gauntlet.

It will take a bit of interpersonal effort to keep smelly on his reservation.

I believe that Aaron may be able to help us housebreak smelly.

RunningBull wrote:

Course Catalog wrote:Don't worry, our friends in Silicon Valley will bust us out of the Matrix. Or perhaps enslave us for eternity. One or the other.

I need that string out of the labyrinth!

Nope, you are ——-> HERE

Also Dan, we don't ever need permission from the Princess to talk....that's utter nonsense and I think she would agree.

Me housebreak Smelly?

Nah.

That's not in my job description.

Aaron is transparent pretending moron.

He does what my hand make him do.

**Yawn**

Aaron,

Maybe you don’t need permission from the Princess, but I do.

The Princess and I have to stick together....... it’s us, two, against the world, in case you hadn’t noticed.  
......

Together, we are invincible...... we hold the high ground.  

Well, she holds the middle ground, and I have her back...... from Mt Monadnock.

Yes, I can see Mt Monadnock from my back porch.

That’s my own, personal portal, til someone else wants to claim it.

I’m not rolling over, just yet.



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Okay Dan....as you feel

smelly wrote:Aaron is transparent pretending moron.

He does what my hand make him do.

**Yawn**

Smelly is my perfect expression of love as he is

How's that for transparent pretending?

Hehehe

Well, I have the low ground Dan.

Love lifts all boats.

The Way isn’t up there.

The way is through the valley of death.

Do you have any fear?

Cause you are a dead talking space monkey walking.

Are those fighting words, smelly?

And, no, smelly, you have no ground...... you are groundless, just by your own admission.

The Princess and I have the ground covered...... with Footmann.

I don't mind keeping a sacred clown around for entertainment purposes.

We're still waiting for the drag queer/n to make his debut.

True, but I float in the low places

I float on my back in the sky

I dont look at the earth

Mountain climbers are often bewildered

Seeing a goat dance past them

I love your dances of death

I salute you fellow monkeys

Amor Fati

Aaron,

Yes, I appreciate smelly, too.

He is probably here for a reason, we just have to figure it out.  

Everything in its time.......
........

Yes, it does have to do with Mount Monadnock.  

He may be our seeing eye goat, should he choose to accept this mission.  

We have to keep our eyes on the summit.  We need smelly to smell out the rattlesnakes in the rocks.  

smelly just doesn’t know which way is up.

All directions are the same to smelly.

We need his near sight, to complement our far sight.



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Duh

I keep my eyes open here

Where I am

No missions

I trample any snake/thought who looks sidewayz before they can strike.

Goats and snakes aren’t what you would call bosom buddies.

Wait til you meet the machine elves.

I’m Santa Claus compared to them.

Then there is the Shadow.

Bahahahaha