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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 5 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.  

    Thank you.  

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:31 am

    You just follow your nose.

    “Our usual approach is to start by dreaming up a picture—that is, coming up with a recipe—of how we want things to turn out. […]Then we effort to make our dream come true. It’s often more work than we imagined, and the results can fail to measure up. We call this freedom—to chase after dreams. Chasing after dreams in this horizontal world most often feels vaguely unsatisfying.”

    You always have the right ingredients on hand for an experience.

    Using whatever is on hand and detaching from desired outcomes leads to mastery in cooking and in life.

    How funny as I wondered if I would respond to Dan this morning I see an old man cooking.

    That is profound for me.

    It really is all just happening.
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    Post by dan Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:45 am

    I think that’s part of the problem, mama don’t allow no furniture on the other side.  

    We’ve got to come over here, if we want to deploy our lazy-boys.  

    We’re not really meant to set up house keeping, on the other side.  

    Is there no rest for the weary?  

    Fish can sleep while swimming..... with their eyes open.  We have to learn to sleep with the fishes.  

    We just have to punch the old time-clock in the sky.  We have to check in with the Monad, to make sure we have a clean bill of health.  

    Then we wait in line to get back in...... figuring, of course, that this time we’re going to beat the system.  

    I guess smelly has got the system beat.  Then what?  

    Then we’re lazy-boy ready.  

    In the meantime we can anticipate the Eschaton....... but, wait, I think we’ve already been there, done that, and I have the KWF t-shirt.

    What else is there on the bucket list?



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    Post by SurfBum Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:02 pm

    True, no lazy boys beyond the gate...we have to leave all the room we can for the honey.

    Our mission, should we choose to accept it, is to get everyone home safely.

    Smelly is allergic to missions

    Does anyone have some Claritin they can lend poor Smelly?

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    Post by dan Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:10 pm

    That’s right, Aaron...... we have to turn the lights out..... so that some poor cave person can turn them on again.

    We can just hope we don’t draw the j-straw and go get to hangout on the old tree. But I guess we’ve all been there and done that, too. smelly didn’t like that part of the game. Your rose garden is your compensation.
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    Post by SurfBum Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:22 pm

    I would hate to be the guy at the end of the line back home who has to turn the lights out when the great drama ends.

    We wouldn't wish that job on anyone, but someone has to do it....don't they?

    If it hadn't already written into the script I wouldn't be into revelation....



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    Post by dan Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:25 pm

    Well, that’s mostly my job description.... you know, the Antichrist and all that...... we have to be careful what we wish for.  

    I got the short straw on that one.  I make the best of it.  I get to have lunch with the Princess.

    Nobody, but nobody, wants the game to end, but the dinner bell is ringing...... for the wedding feast.  

    At least we have that to look forward to....... we’re all invited to dinner in the sky.  I wonder what we’ll be having for din-din......


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    Post by SurfBum Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:36 pm

    Let's hope we don't get bored of milk and honey for every meal or we might abandon heaven.

    Does the wishing well aspect of portals deliver chips and queso?
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    Post by dan Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:44 pm

    Aaron,

    I’m not sure you’re taking this seriously enough........
    ........


    About project Newton...... where the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree......

    Which tree was that? The apple tree?

    What would be the Kabbalistic meaning of that?

    Something about going around and coming around.

    The apple didn’t get much further than Adam’s tummy, well, then Johnny got into the picture..... didn’t he?

    So did the serpent....... lured the unsuspecting couple right out of the garden. smelly is refusing to leave. Maybe he knows something that we don’t.

    Aaron is luring us back into the garden, and smelly is sure it’s a trick.



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    Post by SurfBum Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:57 pm

    Oh?

    I respectfully disagree with you Dan.



    Am I luring us back to the garden?

    Nah....

    I'm just saying that roses and bees arise mutually....without bees no roses and without roses no bees.



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    Post by dan Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:10 pm

    Well, ok, just as long as you’re respectful of your elders...... yah, them, too.
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    Post by SurfBum Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:21 pm

    I have respect for anyone whose role it is to turn the lights out in the end Dan


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    Post by dan Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:44 pm

    Turning the lights out.........

    Well, it’s more like turning the dream off...... the blue sky dream, that all of us space monkeys harbor, in one fashion or another.  

    Yes, even the Mormons subscribe...... after their own fashion.  

    I mean..... be fruitful and multiply.  Hey, been there, too.  

    Are there no limits to growth?  Spiritual growth?  

    Well, I’m told that love is a many splendored thing....... yes, Joni, it has more than two sides..... and it goes all the way from sea to shining sea.  

    Doesn’t the Monadnock ever get bored with love?

    I just don’t believe all those Cialis adds, sorry.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:06 pm

    I don’t have it beat, I let it consume me.

    I have more of an open light bouncy feeling about life and death.

    Like ok ok, here I am, shake it off.

    I can perceive aspects of the sky and birds entangling.

    I get to live in my little home by the mountain and serve meals to those who stop by.

    I am always home here.

    Where it all just is and I happen.

    It feelz warm and cozy here.

    It smellz earthy.

    Wonderful little stream out back, a potting station and a little garden.

    My home is growing out of the mountain.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:34 pm

    It occurred to me today any words about the Tao/IT/Awareness/Consciousness are selfish.

    Words can ensnare and befool and bring light or confusion, which lead to feelings and action, but it depends on the kind of ground the words fall on, like seeds, growth depends on the environment.

    Self awareness prepares the soil with best nutrient and water mix.

    Pain and suffering, shit, adds fertilizers.

    Then a tree may grow with deep roots.

    They stretch into Hell.

    And the branches reach into heaven.

    Any words are The Selfish Tao.

    We are used to judging selfishness as negative, but not so, it’s natural.

    Our minds are practiced at recognizing patterns and symbols.

    Whatever system of symbols we grow up with shapes our minds.

    Finding things like Zen in mid life, relax these practiced mind forms, whatever your path to self awareness, it leads to a letting go of old memories and desires.

    Or the thought forms harden and anchor the space monkey to the earth.

    This is such a key part of the process, it can’t be avoided.

    So how come so much is spoken and written about just being here as this?

    Being here is the experience.

    The religious dream is one that seeks to transcend our death and search for the meaning of being.

    Being is the meaning.

    This has led to great suffering, born from the shared pain of individual mind/bodies.

    Only you can know you.

    Shared belief is delusion.

    It is helpful in letting go, to give your own personal account, your own selfish Tao.

    Strewn across my old blog and OMF and Facebook, is my experiment and art project deconstructing my dream. It is all just the smelly goat’s selfish Tao. My words, ultimately, are only useful for me, my own interpretation of words translated from ideograms translated from our shared selfish wisdom.  What I tell you I believe is not the eternal I know.

    I like the selfish Tao.

    It is not about telling anyone what to do to satisfy the gods or monkey agendas. This appears to be about living in a useful and common-sense manner.  It is very much about meditating on life, and being mindful of all that is around us, and trying to find our place in the world without disturbing the center of that natural harmony too much.

    I do not deny the Thunder Beings, I know that energy appears in the sky and touched me.

    I do not deny anyone’s experiences.

    I ask the same questions of others I asked my self, but I have no question.

    I do not deny death or my apparent life.

    I don’t even deny the voices and visions that came from nothing inside me.

    I just go straight on.

    This is happening, I will let it unfold as it likes and I will share my selfish Tao as I feel to.

    I do not need nor do I seek a reaction.

    I make the meal with the ingredients that present themselves spontaneously.

    I need add nor take away anything.

    This is how it is happening here.
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    Post by SurfBum Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:34 pm

    Dan called me today to talk about portals.

    He will likely come post something about our conversation.

    In the hive there is honey...then there is the royal jelly.

    He can talk about the honey till the cows come home, but anything he has to say about the royal jelly is likely fake news.

    It appears I went through a portal of sorts but I'm afraid I never made it to the other side... so anything I have to say about it might be considered fake news.

    Just thought I would make that clear.

    Logos seem to want access to the holy of holies but logos is only allowed to take you into the priests court just outside the holy of holies.

    The mind creates the abyss and the heart crosses it.
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    Post by Foot Mann Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:04 pm

    Opportunity to hear/see the Princess in person: https://www.meetup.com/TechinMotionDC/events/259709129/
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:21 pm

    Bernard Kastrup speaking about information realism.

    “Where we get lost and confused is in imagining that what we are describing is a non-mental reality underlying our perceptions, as opposed to the perceptions themselves. We then try to find the solidity and concreteness of the perceived world in that postulated underlying reality. However, a non-mental world is inevitably abstract. And since solidity and concreteness are felt qualities of experience—what else?—we cannot find them there. The problem we face is thus merely an artifact of thought, something we conjure up out of thin air because of our theoretical habits and prejudices.

    ...

    Tegmark is correct in considering matter—defined as something outside and independent of mind—to be unnecessary baggage. But the implication of this fine and indeed brave conclusion is that the universe is a mental construct displayed on the screen of perception. Tegmark’s “mathematical universe” is inherently a mental one, for where does mathematics—numbers, sets, equations—exist if not in mentation?

    The mental universe exists in mind but not in your personal mind alone. Instead, it is a transpersonal field of mentation that presents itself to us as physicality—with its concreteness, solidity and definiteness—once our personal mental processes interact with it through observation.”

    I have hints of the transpersonal field.

    I wouldn’t project my images upon it and apply concepts like hive to it.

    I am perception, the screen and the image.

    I don’t need to meet any Princess.

    I know my self, no meetups required.
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    Post by SurfBum Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:47 pm

    Transpersonal field is also a conceptual projection...is it not?

    I will always project concepts and images onto it.
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    Post by dan Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:51 pm

    No, we don’t need to worry about these doors being weaponized.  They are quite subjective, thank you.  

    Space and time are subjective, too.  In association with these passages, they are more so.  

    Doors have two sides, but not necessarily these kind.  

    If I were a ufologist, I would be disappointed.  But, I’m an Earthologist, and these make more sense.  

    Yes, we each have our transpersonal doorway.   It’s rather like a blind spot, on which we may project our wishes.  

    We each have our own, but there is only one.  And then there is the other one.  That is the omega door..... where we finally converge.  

    When you go through your door, you don’t come back.  

    Well, you do and you don’t.  Part of you will always be on the other side.  

    And you never go through.  It’s not you on the other side.... but it’s not exactly not you, either.  

    Doors, if they do anything, they teach you patience...... with logic...... when logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead.

    The French speak of the little death. That may be apt.

    Who are you in your dreams or on a ‘trip’? There is a spectrum of these one sided doors.

    Reality does grow thinner as we approach the other side. Eternity is on the other side. It waits patiently.

    The j-guy reified this, like no other. smelly has never forgiven him.

    History is largely the result of that reification. So are we.

    If we are nice to our blind spot, we are less likely to be blind sided, I think.

    We do try.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:31 pm

    Aaron wrote:Transpersonal field is also a conceptual projection...is it not?

    I will always project concepts and images onto it.

    Whatever you project from mind forms in matter.

    Zen beginner mind is letting your mind rest and thus avoid unnecessary projections.

    It takes practice and relaxation.

    Missions do not foster such states of mind.

    Missions are for morons who don’t know how to live.

    Jesus was a moron if he even lived.

    Enjoy.
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    Post by SurfBum Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:48 pm

    Zen beginner mind?

    I wouldn’t know much about that....sorry
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:30 pm

    Aaron wrote:Zen beginner mind?

    I wouldn’t know much about that....sorry

    I don’t know what you know or care.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:27 am

    smelly wrote:
    Aaron wrote:Zen beginner mind?

    I wouldn’t know much about that....sorry

    I don’t know what you know or care.

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    Post by GSB/SSR Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:56 am

    Dan: "No, we don’t need to worry about these doors being weaponized. They are quite subjective, thank you."

    Actually, yes, you should (worry):



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    Post by GSB/SSR Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:14 am

    Tegmark is correct in considering matter—defined as something outside and independent of mind—to be unnecessary baggage. But the implication of this fine and indeed brave conclusion is that the universe is a mental construct displayed on the screen of perception. Tegmark’s “mathematical universe” is inherently a mental one, for where does mathematics—numbers, sets, equations—exist if not in mentation?

    The mental universe exists in mind but not in your personal mind alone. Instead, it is a transpersonal field of mentation that presents itself to us as physicality—with its concreteness, solidity and definiteness—once our personal mental processes interact with it through observation.”


    There are effectively three spheres that represent and project into each other, a physical material (or memory); a conceptual (or complexity mapping); and a spiritual (or universal set of properties) that together hint at the underlying nature of our reality.

    Penrose has something similar, discussed in detail here:


    https://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0510188.pdf


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