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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:58 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 4 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:10 am

    smelly wrote:
    Aaron wrote:Yes, our interaction is naturally over

    Go away now

    Two more kicks please.

    Shhhhhhh

    Quiet

    You’re not here

    This isn’t happening

    Just listen
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:11 am

    Two more kicks please.
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:12 am

    Bwahahaha!

    You’re welcome
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:46 am

    smelly wrote:

    There is no meaning or essence separate from any thing.

    The appearance is the meaning.

    The meaning is very personal

    Duh
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:06 pm

    Dan, you mentioned Icke and others who went through the psychedelic gate, if they didn’t realize what is, so what.

    Some realize, some don’t.

    The ones who don’t may lack the courage to let go.

    The ones who do, lose all they held.

    There is no distinction between them.

    This is how we overcome the apparent conflict.

    There is no way though, that would hint at other ways and there is no way.

    Just let it all be as it is and it goes straight on.

    Then you don’t care which way it goes.

    We are spontaneous action, that is the meaning.

    Who is here to really care?

    Who is here barking?

    All is void.

    A master is a cow and a cow is a master.

    If you explore why there is no difference between you and a cow that’s enough to find realization.

    But a slap does just as good as a pointer.

    Don’t project your ideas of how it should work or morality or manners.

    You don’t know my cosmos, nor I yours.

    It can be rude and in your face.

    People stop at rude and don’t penetrate it.

    Let it all penetrate you with no reaction.

    This is why most only go half way and understand something in mind, but they don’t live this.

    We simply awake to lucidity, we don’t go anywhere.

    No one is awake or could be is the lucid realization.

    This is radical and offensive to talking monkeys.


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:18 pm

    no, the meaning is personal.

    Let each have their own meaning.

    Variety is the spice of life.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:25 pm

    Monkeys say no and make distinctions.

    I said it doesn’t matter.

    We need stupid monkeys like you to balance things out.

    You happen.

    Right on cue.

    Cow.
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:33 pm

    Sure, whatever you say
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:34 pm

    Moooooooooooo


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:34 pm

    Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:54 pm

    I have revealed it all Dan, but only using words, which can only be intellectual and dualistic.

    If you follow what I point to and want it, you shall find it, but can not hold it.

    It is simple.

    I am a chatty goat, no doubt.

    But I am also a cow.

    A master.

    A barking dog.

    A talking monkey.

    It is very simple to understand my odd radical approach to accept all that is with no distinction as its own implicit meaning just being as it is.

    Monkeys will still chatter.

    Dogs will still bark.

    Birds will still sing.

    Cows will still moooooooooooooo.

    It is my meditation to write.

    It was my joy to smack you all around rudely.

    Jokes on you.

    ...

    Joshu asked Nansen, "Leaving out all words, cutting out all arguments, please, master, say it."

    Nansen immediately retired to his room.

    Joshu said, "Although the old master is usually quite a chatterbox, once you come up with a question, he hasn't a single word for an answer."

    So saying, Joshu slapped the attendant.

    ...

    If you affirm or deny, negate the affirmation or negate the denial, in any case you are bound to fall into the trap of words. Retiring to his room, Nansen spares himself this headache.

    Aaron and OMF have been a fun headache.

    Playing with words and reducing them down to silence was fun.

    The appearance is love, being, I am love. I don’t have a feeling about it, nor can I find any. I can’t do or not do it.

    I now retire from OMF and my public persona and have no hope you monkeys can relax.

    I have made no difference, nor will I ever.

    I accept this, being a cow and a flower and a goat and a monkey, do you Wink

    Two more kicks please.

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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:15 pm

    Moooooooo

    Smelly has been fun

    I'll retire with the old goat

    Peace!
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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:41 pm

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    Post by dan Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:19 pm

    Scott sent me the following....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sKQAcXWku8  

    Just be prepared that there is a small bit of infomercial at the end.  Maybe it’s just a bit over the top.  

    I next hope to read the Alchemist....... the gold within is a brilliant/pregnant darkness.  This may be what smelly is on about. The womb of creation, one would imagine.
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    Post by painterdoug Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:47 pm

    smelly/ your new photo suggests red high blood pressure, blue embarrassment, and green with envy

    perhaps this is just an artists interpretation??

    regardless, your a colorful goat
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:06 pm

    dan wrote:Scott sent me the following....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sKQAcXWku8  

    Just be prepared that there is a small bit of infomercial at the end.  Maybe it’s just a bit over the top.  

    I next hope to read the Alchemist....... the gold within is a brilliant/pregnant darkness.  This may be what smelly is on about. The womb of creation, one would imagine.  

    I’m sorry Dan, that’s a lot of mental masturbation.

    There are no problems, they have not penetrated themselves yet, you can tell.

    Too many distinctions, as you like.

    There are more direct non-teachers...90% of the shit out there on the Internet is bullshit.

    Alan Watts
    UG Krishnamurti
    Joshu - Radical Zen
    Tony Parsons
    The Heqadless Way
    Jed McKenna

    Because there are no answers and there is no way and you have to face that each one and dissolve the koan your self.

    Intellectual acceptance is only half of it, you collapse it all into one space, what is.

    This is the no way I found, do better, you can’t, but you can go try.

    Those who don’t know don’t speak or teach, only entertainers and fools teach what is not teachable, they are all frauds.

    The ego is just a slippery imaginary thing.

    As long as you can be
    Talked out of your self
    You deserve to be

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    Post by hobbit Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:26 am

    Manna.

    Why do You think they keep wine on the altar where the cross is?????

    Because it is a geometric location of high compression of consciousness=manna.

    Wilhelm reich called it orgone, I call it consciousness.

    Our ancestors knew how to accumulate such and condense it into manna, a white powder that they raised their consciousness field with, some call this energy, it's consciousness.

    mushrooms are past masters at concentrating this, they are geometric masters, I bother to check where they grow.

    Magic mushrooms in particular grow on high concentration points, they have been here far far longer than humans.

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    Post by Cuan Scott Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:13 am

    Interesting Hobbit

    You been to Newgrange?
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    Post by 99 Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:06 am

    Alan Watts is a great one to turn to when you're trying to make sense of this crazy world we live in... here are some quotes:


    "Waking up to who you are requires letting go of who you imagine yourself to be." 

    “To have faith is to trust yourself to the water. When you swim you don’t grab hold of the water, because if you do you will sink and drown. Instead you relax, and float.” 

    “The menu is not the meal.” 

    “The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance.” 

    "Problems that remain persistently insoluble should always be suspected as questions asked in the wrong way.” 

    “When we attempt to exercise power or control over someone else, we cannot avoid giving that person the very same power or control over us.”

    “So then, the relationship of self to other is the complete realization that loving yourself is impossible without loving everything defined as other than yourself.” 

    "Everything that happens, everything that I have ever done, everything that anybody else have ever done is part of a harmonious design, that there is no error at all.” (so he believed in predestination and no free will?)

    I have realized that the past and future are real illusions, that they exist in the present, which is what there is and all there is.

    The meaning of life is just to be alive. It is so plain and so obvious and so simple. And yet, everybody rushes around in a great panic as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves.” (my comment: No)

    Words can be communicative only between those who share similar experiences.”  (I think there's some truth to that... not all of the time but sometimes)

    Technology is destructive only in the hands of people who do not realize that they are one and the same process as the universe."

    People who exude love are apt to give things away. They are in every way like rivers; they stream. And so when they collect possessions and things they like, they are apt to give them to other people. Because, have you ever noticed that when you start giving things away, you keep getting more?” (Didn't Jesus say the same thing?)

    One is a great deal less anxious if one feels perfectly free to be anxious, and the same may be said of guilt.”  (I like that one. lol)

    When you look out of your eyes, at nature happening out there, you’re looking at you. That’s the real you. The you that goes on of itself.” 

    To put is still more plainly: the desire for security and the feeling of insecurity are the same thing. To hold your breath is to lose your breath.”  (wow!)
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    Post by Cuan Scott Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:31 am

    Thanks 99

    This is an excellent list - pure gold

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    Post by hobbit Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:43 am

    Cuan Scott wrote:Interesting Hobbit

    You been to Newgrange?

    This is newgrange……



    https://www.knowth.com/newgrange.htm

    No I haven't been, have been to countless similer here and in Frtance.

    ALL are built to the matrix, all are built at a time when in my hobbit opinion the potentials were different than now, but they are returning now.

    The so called art work is by those who could sense the local vortex locations ( as I can)
    And carved the stone to visualise.

    The stones are resistors, as is the alternate layerings of coverings ( think Wilhelm reichs accumulators)

    The coverings were alternate layers of organic and inorganic, the consciousness reacts differently to recent living as against dead at rest.

    Consciousness is malleable, but You need to recognise it exists, our ancestors were masters of this manipulation, as were the Egyptians, then a great forgetting occurred, TIME to remember.

    Religions have been the culprits in veiling this knowledge for control of the masses.


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    Post by Cuan Scott Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:06 am

    Newgrange is the navel of Ireland as well as many other sites in the Boyne Valley.

    Hence the 'Battle of the Boyne' that the Protestants here celebrate as only the Irish could (On the wrong date) They also think it was an actual battle and their man won...

    Thankfully we can laugh at ourselves

    Yes, I agree, time to remember, right on mothers schedule...

    Come visit us anytime after things settle down

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    Post by 99 Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:36 am

    Cuan Scott wrote:Thanks 99

    This is an excellent list - pure gold

    Smile

    Thanks for your feedback on that! Smile
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    Post by dan Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:03 pm

    Here we are in the Northeast Kingdom.

    Snow is piled up to the eves.

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