Immaterialism 5

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Just thought it might be fun to throw this into the trail mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NevjoXsjg4o&t=0s

Couple of other views as well.

Love is the point.

The point is the point

The joint is the joint

The point is no point

The point is love

The spirit is a dove

There is only what is
There is only love

Aaron wrote:

99 wrote:The lesson is, focus only on love... when we do that, only then do we truly see reality. If there is no love there, then whatever it is, is only an illusion. 

When we focus on love, we create reality. If we only focus on the negative, then all we create are illusions. It's up to us what kind of Creator we want to be but only the Creators of love, of reality, go back to the Source.

What a load of crap

Show me someone or something not already "back" to source.

Aaron, even though Halloween is a ways off yet... and that you're really, really looking forward to it... just a suggestion... but next time you steal a pumpkin off of someones porch, which I'm sure you do just for fun, remember to first blow out the candle inside of it.

wk,

Find us a non mystic, non literalist who extols love.

Aaron appears to be threatened by the mere thought of rationalism.

We might suppose that Aaron is paranoid with regard to thought.

Every thought is an enemy.


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dan wrote:

Every thought is an enemy.  


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Dan,

If the creator wastes nothing and there are no coincidences, then just a 'thought' perhaps my opinion, but why would be given thought'?

Part of the schedule?

Hahahaha

What a load of crap

There are no threats Muppets, nor are thoughts the enemy.

There are no enemies.


My words and opinions are crap

Crap can be used as fertilizer in the garden, but it's still just crap.

Scott,

Sorry, I don’t follow your question.

Could you try rephrasing it?

“Utterly awake, senses wide open.
Utterly open, nonfixating awareness.

Love is a switch of focus from point to pointless open attention

Those with points can’t as hard as they try understand not having one

Love is the way

They can’t know love

That’s a load of shit

Love is awareness

It’s not a feeling

It has no name even

The audacity to name awareness and say you understand it and offer it to anyone else

Utter delusion“ -a smelly goat

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Very open stream smelly

Fun to watch it flowing through

It’s like watching someone take a shit who has been eating lots of veggies and fiber

Nice flow!

Focused words appear spontaneously from the unfocused background of awareness

When we are open we let what comes come freely

Then as freely as we let the words appear we let them go

We hold on to nothing

Muppets want something to hold onto, afraid of freedom...afraid of death

When the Separate ‘I’ disappears, what is always flowing suddenly and instantly becomes effortless and utterly free

What points could ever be made about it?

What is simply is, simple and free

It is very funny to see appearances trying to make points about what is when there are none

When the universe has no points to make about anything, playfulness and freedom is all that can be left

Free, playful, and pointless

These words I post are a Koan and a joke

Do you get the joke?

You couldn’t if you tried to

There is nothing to get

Get it?

Bwahahahaha

It’s hilarious

It’s peaceful

Just relax, sit back, and enjoy the ride

And if you run across any appearances trying to make silly points while floating down the river, you are free to ignore them or blow a fart their way just for fun.

This vid just appeared spontaneously

The first min of this one is great!

Bwahahahaha!

Aaron,

We’re not quite there yet.

The unlearning of scientific materialism will, perforce, be a studied unlearning...... not the studied neglect that you hold out to us.

Reality is a social enterprise. It is not to be written off by individual fiat.

I write nothing off

We are free to unlearn as we feel to and need to

We take all the steps needed until no steps are left

All are free to peck at the ground as they feel to

It’s all part of this magnificent show

Beware those who preach love

They are filled with hatred

Udder delusion

Mooooooooooo

Dan,

Yes, I was thinking more of 'thought' as 'why would we have an attribute?' were it not to provide us with something we can use in our present environment or state of being.

Like a baby crawls until such time as nature and knowledge enables the baby to walk. An adult can still crawl but may choose with understanding to walk or run.


I guess I better go read the Tao..

CS,

I case you missed it, Dan was referring to what he was assuming my position was regarding thoughts when he said “every thought is an enemy”.

From what Dan has said I think it is clear this is not his position.

He is wrong in assuming it is mine, It is not

There is nothing wrong with thinking

Thinking is necessary

Logos is like a chrysalis or like garden manure perhaps

Thanks Aaron

Makes sense..

It’s nonsense to me.

Glad you have some sense left CS.

Maybe you can buy a cup of coffee.

Thought is not good or evil at all, it simply isn’t your master or has any answers.

You can then play with thought.

All its questions and problems are meaningless, just to keep its story of ME going.  

With a clear mind, free of burden, what problems do you have?

What questions?

Muppets have no idea how trapped by thought they are.

We were just teasing egos here on OMF.

They are so easy to tease.

They aren’t laughing, which is a sign they are confused

There is nothing to do or not do or read or not read.

There is a stepping back through acceptance of what is as it is.

A realization is possible if you inquire into your own mind, who are you?

No more teachers
No more books

Dan is confused about just about everything he says.

It’s fucking hilarious and great fun.

He is the butt of the cosmic joke.

A great punch line.

The ultimate Mooooooooooron.

You have to be the moron too, some nerver stop though.

We call these NPCs, non player characters, like in a game.

They are furniture to poop and sit on.

They get more and more agitated as they are led by thought, through emotion.

If they see their folly, they can realize instantly, which is part of the reason for thought, just a mirror of what is.

But most UFO muppets have the same mental delusion as flat earthera I have observed.

Words will never sway them, so I naturally obfuscate their logos.

I use words as a net.

You can’t argue with them and they are easily agitated if you show them they are confused.

It’s another religion is all.

They act religiously about their feelings and facts and beliefs.

Oh my confused UFO muppets, how sweet, like dumb little furballs you roll around.

Our realization is for ourselves, not anyone else, and only to allow us to move with an open and receptive mind it appears.

I don’t know, I experience what isn’t through what is.

The treasure is not a collection of facts or words or books, it’s your awareness of all of it.

It’s acausal and amoral, no one knows why things happen.

Muppets revert to previous base programming under stress, we mostly need reprogramming to remove the limits placed on us by culture and monkey mind thought.

It’s hard work and there are lots of ways to be befooled.

But we are creating this world, no force to blame or beg for help.

Accept responsibility for it your self from awareness.

Love the moron muppet as your self by sharig what comes to you.

This is mostly a futile effort.

They can take it or leave it, who cares, if they fight, all the better.

You want to follow Dan into oblivion?

That old theist/deist needing answers outside himself?

He is the roadblock here

But you can blow right through any obstacles.

Don’t follow anyone or thing.

But continue in your folly until you realise this or don’t

I’m just smelly goat who doesn’t lie.

It’s much more fun to just be what is.

Egos lie and fear and think and make phantoms.

If that’s all you are in your mind, then that’s awesome.

Funny, we can choose ignorance of the one thing that helps us relax.

Arguing relaxes me too though, because I know the muppet on the other end is always an abstraction of what is, the more chaos, the better.

Hilarious fun up above the world so high...like a diamond in the sky

Fuck all the words for what is.

Just be ok with what is happening and no problem.

My words move in circles and I have said nothing again.

I’m not sharing my problems, I’m sharing how much fun they are to play with.

The more ignorance, the better I say, there is no need for realization.

It’s just what happened.

I don’t know how or why.

As if I came to OMF for some stilly ego attention.

It was and will always be my little joke.

Now we need a flaming Cheeto or cheese meteor to head this way.

How awesome if the Earth was destroyed by a big ball of yarn?!

When I write, I am simply stacking stones.

You can make word art and sculptures.

Smelly is my surrealistic creation.

The joke is how could a goat talk about enlightenments

Goats can’t talk sillies.

Dan is too smart to be ok with not understanding this dumb goat’s rock sculptures.

He will never understand or reconcile the smelly goat.

I will haunt him the rest of his days on Earth and I take great satisfaction in that.

He can’t beat an appearance.

Backing off and powering down

Obey Luck

Good Luck

Yes, logos is also like a toy to play with.

Chrysalis does sound like very serious business.

It’s serious until it isn’t.

If one takes themselves to be a serious thing that is their game

Jokes on them

There is no such thing as luck

When we are open and free to let the flow of words come and go as they will then everything works out as it should effortlessly

This is not “good luck you’re on your own”, this is trust and openness and active emptiness

Riding the waves of wu wei, the universe does nothing and accomplishes everything

If doing not-doing helps another muppet relax and find more peace and playfulness then that’s great, if not....shrug

Just have an adventure.

We don’t have to overthink this.

I have made a careful observation of my mind and thoughts.

There is no mystical or objective cause for what is to be found.

That was the real discovery.

I bought the story of ME hook line and sinker, like all of us do.

I poured all my focus into the image of ME and the world.

This is natural.

But I also fell backwards imto the sky by no will of mine, I just had a question I wouldn’t stop asking.

I pierced all answers and saw them inside out.

In the sky, thought feels alien, we fly in the sky, with no thought.

Thinking feels redundantly confusing and recursive.

I have proven it to myself and I trust in all of it, things take care of themselves.

This guy could never have thought his way up the mountain.

He just went for it spontaneously after clearing his head of the distracting thoughts.

If you want to know who you are, really, and you are not an asshole manipulating people for your own gain, you will find no answers, but somehow, that will be enough.

Only assholes, dummies and liars have answers.

Fuck em

The only way you will ever accept this is if you climb that big wall in front of you, all the way to the top, knowing your a dead muppet, if you slip.

At the top, you see you were the same in the valley and at the top, you are both, and your life plays out in between these.

But having seen through your fear, you relax, I mean reallly relax, it’s wonderful.

But not until you risk your life for it

No pretenders at the top.

There was never anyone in the valley, climbing or making it to the top, there just is what is and that’s enough.

Thanks guys..

Sometimes, especially of late, I feel more 'flow' than others like the night a few days back I listened to a couple of wu wei audios and clicked back to find Zen Muppet Aaron had just posted on the same.

I am truly glad that I came to OM and grateful for the ongoing experience..

At the end of the day all roads lead home. Oh, but then we kind of are.

I suppose then it's about building sandcastles on the beach, listening to the wind in the trees and as Bruce Lipton says 'knowing what chocolate ice cream tastes like.'


Alex Honnold definitely doesn't overthink it!

Dan: The unlearning of scientific materialism will, perforce, be a studied unlearning...... not the studied neglect that you hold out to us. Reality is a social enterprise. It is not to be written off by individual fiat.

Dan's "get back to the trees" agenda: Shock the monkey to life

Overthinking monkeys........

Hey, that’s us.

smelly is afraid to own it, or else, he’s afraid that we’re afraid.  

Are we afraid that donny won’t get releelected?  

Not foot....... no siree......

Princess thinks that foot and I are trying to push her into the spotlight.  

Well, she was right....... until we figure out Brazil.... which is mostly figured out....... you know us thinking monkeys...... do we really need a shock?  

The only question........ spot, spot, who wants the spotlight?  

Obviously, donny doesn’t mind the spot.  

The only question is about his partner in crime.

Melania...... clearly not.  

Ivanka........ maybe, but maybe not this spot.  

That leaves only one person, and it’s not rocket science.  

Kashmir.  

Tell me that the Princess and I are wrong.  

The next question is about RICO.........

Should portals come under the RICO Act?

Well, guess what, they already are.  

How so.......?

Where does monism meet personalism?  

chicken little has this to say about that.........

Where does the cookie crumble.......?  

That’s what they say about scientific materialism....... one prick and it’s all gone.  

Button, button........

Yes, I’m just little bit jealous about this stuff.......

I’ve always said that I’m not going to roll over and play dead.  

But, by the same token, I am a pushover for Lais and Kashmir.  

My suggestion to Lais........ keep an eye on those cheetahs......

One way to avoid the spotlight is to be able to move at the speed of light.  

That is mostly what’s happening.  

And, sports fans, that may be what faith is all about.  

With the logos, it is increasingly difficult to distinguish between faith and logic.  We are caught in the middle...... us thinking monkeys.

May the Shock take the hindmost.......


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Like every monkey, I fear the pain of my death.

We have pain coming into life, pain enduring it, pain leaving it.

We all know pain well.

Maybe we only fear pain.

Language is designed to hide emotions, to hide our fear.

Fear has driven us all insane.

But we can be relaxed crazy monkeys.

Our natural state is one of slack and leisure and relaxation.

I wonder why everyone is so driven to know and do things with their coming oblivion.

The message I hear is clear.

Relaaaaaaaaaxxxxxxx

Maybe they are afraid.

When one is relaxed, there is no fear.

If a lion comes, yuh can stay relaxed, just move away it.

This is doing not doing.

You move from an open relaxed mind.

You can argue all you like, you can always react the best way in this state.

When you relax, all the seeking relaxes too, all the words fade away.

I don’t remember what all the fuss was about.

Oh yah, I was looking for a meaning to my life, this is it!

Life is funny how it moves through us.

It tickles.

smelly said/   When one is relaxed, there is no fear.
If a lion comes, yuh can stay relaxed, just move away it.

Smelly,  very AKIDO of you!   parry things out of the way and continue on. no force needed.