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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:58 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 4 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:17 pm

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    Post by 99 Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:56 am

    Aaron wrote:
    99 wrote:My oh my... I log on here and all I'm seeing is one disparaging remark after another in this constant back and forth thing between participants in this thread... it's RELENTLESS!!

    This is a (((WARNING)))

    If this keeps up, as a moderator of this forum, I'm warning everybody here that I will transfer all posts of anyone who's in anyway rude to any  member here (in any way, shape or form) in the yet to be created "You S.O.B. I Hate You!" subforum.

    Thank-you and have a nice day! Smile

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    (Mod. comment: Offensive post has been crossed out as its final destination is still "under construction")



    Look Aaron, I'm sorry you lost your job as a Walmart Greeter but don't take it out on me... OK?
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    Post by GSB/SSR Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:40 am

    Life, love and forums are all subject to the universal law of UP and DOWN ... your choice: Korean, Chinese or Japanese

    https://lyricstranslate.com/en/down-%EC%9C%84%EC%95%84%EB%9E%98-down.html

    Just do what you wanna. do what you wanna
    Stop teasing me and give me some clarity
    I don’t need useless words
    I need your truth not your jokes
    Don’t make me stand at a crossroad, don’t make me cry
    (Up and down, up up and down, up up down)


    (And btw Dan Hani's IQ has us both beat!)








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    Post by GSB/SSR Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:50 am

    And by the way, Jack Sarfatti asks:

    Lawsuit filed against Pandolfi and Firmage

    Anyone know what this is really about?


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    Post by SurfBum Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:08 am

    GSB/SSR wrote:Life, love and forums are all subject to the universal law of UP and DOWN ... your choice: Korean, Chinese or Japanese

    https://lyricstranslate.com/en/down-%EC%9C%84%EC%95%84%EB%9E%98-down.html

    Just do what you wanna. do what you wanna
    Stop teasing me and give me some clarity
    I don’t need useless words
    I need your truth not your jokes
    Don’t make me stand at a crossroad, don’t make me cry
    (Up and down, up up and down, up up down)


    (And btw Dan Hani's IQ has us both beat!)







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    Post by SurfBum Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:10 am

    GSB/SSR wrote:And by the way, Jack Sarfatti asks:

    Lawsuit filed against Pandolfi and Firmage

    Anyone know what this is really about?

    It’s about money and extortion
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:29 am

    If you're indeed desperate for rag-chewing topics you might want to listen to this audio interview with Kevin Day, a Navy Controller who was peripherally involved in the events of 2004.   Perhaps of most interest to me are the post-event apocalyptic dreams and images that Kevin experienced (which he directly attributes to his exposure during the event) and his perception that he has an expanded outlook and abilities.  It would seem to me that Kevin's experience (more spiritual or conscious based than physical) should have high relevance for the ostensible direction you intended for your blog. platform.



    Gary,

    The lawsuit is about garnering attention.  


    Someone thought that Firmage and Greer might show up at Laughlin.  I don’t see them listed.  


    2(ft)..........

    Joe, Steve and Buddy are all taking the small world under advisement.......scary.



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    Post by GSB/SSR Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:10 pm

    Sometimes it is the soft power that saves the world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_power
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:09 pm

    GSB/SSR wrote:Sometimes it is the soft power that saves the world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_power

    The world needs no saving and if you say it does you are a liar and stupid, so you’re a stupid liar.

    No no

    Let’s just drop all that and I’ll say...

    Stupid liar, peddle your shit where morons are present, well, I guess OMF checks that box, sorry.

    As you were...
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:27 pm

    smelly,

    You have overstayed your welcome.

    Adios, amigo........
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    Post by GrandCru Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:38 pm

    Dan-

    In your opinion, is Kevin Day truly affected in the way he describes by his exposure to the phenomenon?

    Also, would be interested on what the odds are of a settlement for the Kiviat lawsuit. I mean, cmon. We all know Kitty City RP isn't going to let his disinfo act go public. Let alone the fact that he's an officer at KWF, which would be bad PR for them.

    Truth be told, he's probably relieved.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:40 pm

    Yes Dan, everything that appears disappears, as you like.

    **POOF**
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:18 pm

    GC,

    In my mind, the whole Nimitz story is tainted by the video.  It is not then possible for me to attempt to unpack it....... sorry.


    4:20(gmt-4).........

    Here’s the question, sports fans.......

    Who actually knows what’s going on?  

    More than any known person, outside our happy little family, it might be CG.  And CG is mostly on the HP team, so go figure.

    I have to factor this into the Nimitz story.  

    The world is not quite ready for the queen bee..... so we keep the Nimitz story alive.  The Nimitz keeps good old BL alive.  

    That’s kind of how our microcosmic story works.

    Either we’re descended from monkeys, or we are chips off the old Block...... you pays your money, and you takes your choice.

    That’s what I learned in the Northeast Kingdom.

    But maybe Kit, Joe, Steve and Buddy are ready for the Queen.  Can the world be that far behind?  BL will take a lot of convincing.  Bill has an admiral friend.  Maybe it’s time for the admiral to spill a few beans.  

    I’m not quite sure where Grant is with managing this magic.  Grant can’t afford to be too far ahead of this game.  The poor guy is saddled with an audience....... the rest of us can thank God for small favors.  

    The question is, how much longer can we keep donny alive.  The poor guy needs a break....... don’t ya think?  His branding opportunity has about run its course.  And, if truth be known, I don’t think the world will ever be ready for Jared.  I know that I’m not.  

    Jared is a vengeful little cuss.  Need we say more?  

    The last I checked, vengeance did not belong to Jared.


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    Post by 99 Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:48 am

    I wonder how far the gov't will go in their psychological warfare efforts to convince our enemies that we are being visited by aliens and that we possess technology from them too.

    Obviously this flip-flopping thing that the gov't does all the time wrt the UFO phenomenon is to give our foes the impression that, thanks to aliens, the US is far, far more technologically advanced  than they could ever hope to be. It's really kind of funny when you think about it. lol

    As for the USS Nimitz UFO incident D-R-A-M-A, I strongly suspect that the entire narrative is being financed by the gov't where every personality that's at the forefront of this continuing story... be they the witnesses, the promoters, the ufo "researchers" and the "skeptics" are all being paid-off by the gov't, in one way or another, to perform their roles to make the entire fiasco seem more "authentic". That's my view on this matter.
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:32 am

    99,

    Please don’t tell me that you don’t accept the BPWH.

    Now that our goat friend is taking a break, it will be easier to converse with others.  

    So, tell me, 99, what about Creation would you have done differently, had you been the Creator?

    Of course, you are the Creator, but maybe your mom forgot to tell you.
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    Post by 99 Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:50 am

    Oh, so you think that the USS Nimitz UFO incident and its video is authentic then? 

    That it's even happening (and unraveling) is all meant to be as everything is preordained. It  seems very consistent with the BPWH. Afterall, everything that happens is the BPW. How could it be any way else?

    ---------------------

    Everything is an illusion so in that sense, the USS Nimitz UFO incident is an illusion too.
    IOW's, just like when Ron said that there was no Jewish holocaust, the USS Nimitz UFO incident never happened either. Why? Because everything is an illusion.

    The only thing that's real is love.

    So wherever you find love... whatever it is or whatever the situation is... it's real. It's our true reality. Everything else is an illusion.

    If the USS Nimitz UFO incident occurred for the GOOD, in other words, out of love, then it's real. But anything outside of love, renders it an illusion only and nothing more than an empty blip on the timeline.

    The Creator is Love hence why the BPWH is even true in the first place.. let alone exist. Things could be no other way. Love is Reality.
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:50 am

    Wait a minute, 99, I thought I just finished saying that I thought the entire Nimitz story was tainted by the questionable video.  

    The BPWH says nothing specifically about disinformation.  

    In your BPWH, would there be no lies?  

    Only love is real.......?  

    But folks love nothing more than to lie about love.  

    Everything, wherever, whenever, exists for one reason only...... just in order to maximize love.  

    Things could be no other way........?  

    Yes, this is the take away of the BPWH.  

    Free will is probably the biggest illusion.  

    But, wait.......

    Why couldn’t our free choices be baked into the BPWH pie?  

    I would say they were.  Yes?  

    Therefore, we always make the best possible choices......?

    Yes..... and that is more or less by definition.  

    Does this mean that we should not always be second guessing ourselves?  Of course not....... but that does get tiring.  

    The Creator second guesses herself.  We are her favorite second guessers.  

    All of this seems highly doubtful, until you understand that there is only one of us, creature/Creator/persons, despite every appearance to the contrary.  

    That you and I might be individuals is the biggest lie of all..... and it’s the best possible lie.



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    Post by 99 Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:22 am

    Dan wrote:Why couldn’t our free choices be baked into the BPWH pie?  

    I would say they were.  Yes?  

    Of course they are... I agree. Everything is preordained including our free choices. Whatever our free choices are, it's already a give'n that they are baked into the BPWH pie. Our free choices are already written into the script.


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    Post by dan Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:24 am

    See, everyone, the BPWH is easy as pie.
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    Post by 99 Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:39 am

    The lesson is, focus only on love... when we do that, only then do we truly see reality. If there is no love there, then whatever it is, is only an illusion. 

    When we focus on love, we create reality. If we only focus on the negative, then all we create are illusions. It's up to us what kind of Creator we want to be but only the Creators of love, of reality, go back to the Source.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:15 am

    99 wrote:The lesson is, focus only on love... when we do that, only then do we truly see reality. If there is no love there, then whatever it is, is only an illusion. 

    When we focus on love, we create reality. If we only focus on the negative, then all we create are illusions. It's up to us what kind of Creator we want to be but only the Creators of love, of reality, go back to the Source.

    What a load of crap

    Show me someone or something not already "back" to source.
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:28 am

    I’m trying to understand Aaron’s point, supposing, generously, that he might actually have one.  

    Can anyone help me out?

    Mystics generally agree that all Creation is just an illusion, referring to it as maya.


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    Post by SurfBum Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:32 am

    The point is no point
    Wink
    That is love

    Don't try to understand it

    It can't be understood by anyone
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:45 am

    Let me see........

    Love is pointless.......?  Maybe..... by definition.

    Love is mystery, especially for mystagogues.

    Ok....... but.......

    1 + 1 = 2. Most of us suppose we understand addition. We have teachers teaching addition. We pay them accordingly.



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    Post by SurfBum Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:46 am

    Hehehe

    Everyone is already a perfect expression of love as they are...even the ones full of crap
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