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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:58 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 4 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:16 am

    This muppet thinks there is a person here hung up.

    How stupid are you Dan?

    Has the Dementia set in or Alzheimer’s.

    I’m waiting for you to lose all your marbles.

    Just because.

    Yawn, more meaningless words.

    You still have not bashed yourself senseless.

    You are such a fucking pathetic pussy.

    You are a pusher of Thought and lies.

    So what?

    Just admit you are a liar.

    I did.

    You are captivated by your own mind.

    Just try talking to yourself Dan.

    You are only a barking dog.

    Bark bark bark

    You have nothing to offer anyone.

    Go away and die.

    You liar

    You fraud

    You fool

    My stool


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:20 am

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    Bahahahahahahaha

    You got my attention Dan.

    You thought you knew something.

    Oh, do tell.

    So I sent a smelly goat to you to show you and your moronic talking monkey fiends and friends, you don’t know shit and all that you think you know is shit.

    Can you admit it I wonder?

    Who cares.

    It’s just fun to see you wrapped up in thought.

    That’s how we keep monkeys occupied.

    Monkeys will listen to anything.

    Straight on.


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    Post by dan Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:31 am

    chicken little can’t stop thinking.

    smelly can’t stop talking.

    Where there is Logos, there is love.

    Tell us something about love, smelly.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:33 am

    Your existence is love.

    If I showed you love unfiltered, you would melt in your socks muppet.

    You have no idea what love is.

    It’s more fun if you keep confusing yourself Dan.

    I’m not thinking, but I can say anything and just know things I don’t know.

    A paradox.

    Checkmate
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:37 am

    You think it was an accident I was up farting on omf as you were?

    Haha, that’s love.

    This is orgasmic love.

    My cosmic masturbation.

    Clueless muppet.

    You will always be my puppet.

    Ok, share your ufo nonsense now for the other scared monkeys.

    When you know you are shit, we can talk about nothing.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:38 am

    There is no free will so just ride the wave without wobbling.

    Wheeeeeee!

    You are IT as you are always.

    The personal and impersonal imply each other, they are the same thing, you can move the reference point as you feel to freely, it doesn't matter.

    When everything is meaningless then everything becomes playful.

    Nothing needs to be serious ever.

    Relax and enjoy the ride as you feel to do so.

    You can set honey traps or you can be the darkness, it makes no difference.

    Do what though wilt shall be the whole of the law.

    Of course there can only be something, the nothing cannot be, but still the nothing is there in the still and empty void and cannot be described.

    Dark matter is not directly measured, we know it exists only indirectly

    But actually it doesn't "exist"
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:23 am

    We are the I AM dream
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    Post by dan Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:45 am

    I am told that Joe’s excursion was mentioned in a recent presidential briefing memo.  

    Joe has been acquainted with Donald since before his election.

    Foot believes that calling this sojourn an ‘excursion’ is underrepresenting the potential significance of this adventure.  

    This was the first such adventure of a quasi official/public(?) nature.  

    Former Senator Harry, who has also been briefed, is suggestomg further funds for ufo research.



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    Post by SurfBum Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:12 pm

    UFO research is ultimately an exercise in total futility.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:49 pm

    Aaron wrote:UFO research is ultimately an exercise in total futility.

    Duh.

    But some may not like that being pointed out because they have given their lives to it, fuck em, morons should jump at the chance to sacrifice their life work that has defined their egos in the flames.

    They would instantly wake up to lucidity if they gave it up.

    I didn’t have to do any and I found the secret of the UFO.

    They only have thought.

    Thought will always lie to and cheat you.



    All the drama and UFO and popular culture is meant to do one single thing!

    They cook this up at the PR level.

    All of this is to perpetuate the word.

    Word made a man out the ape and killed the ape in the process.

    At 6:12 on William reveals the secret of the Cosmos.

    Word keeps Humanity an animal.

    Our culture is a prop to just hold up the Word.

    All death
    All pain
    All fear

    Is in the Word

    The Word was a killer virus once

    WETIKO

    And it could be again

    The Word is too Hot to handle

    Some monkey will always use the virus.

    Sex word and image cut into death word and image.

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    Post by SurfBum Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:15 pm

    I misspoke saying you can move your point of reference from the no self back to the self whenever you feel. Once the illusion of self vanishes it can never come back.

    Its like once you know santa isn't real you can't go back to thinking he is.

    Death is final.

    All missions die with the death of I.

    All that is left is eternal boundlessness.

    That is the end.

    I wants eternal boundlessness but I can never obtain it.

    Eternal boundlessness is just what is.

    When you accept everything as it is you disappear completely.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:20 pm

    There is a point of no return at the event horizon.

    Whoa!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:29 pm

    You begin to slip across time and flow underneath it Shapeshifting...

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:51 pm

    “Hustlers of the world, there is one Mark you cannot beat: The Mark Inside.

    Americans have a special horror of giving up control, of letting things happen in their own way without interference. They would like to jump down into their stomachs and digest the food and shovel the shit out.

    You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative

    You are a Shit Spotter. It's satisfying work. … We have observed that most of the trouble in the world has been caused by ten to twenty percent of folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus. Now your virus is an obligate cellular parasite and my contention is that evil is quite literally a virus parasite occupying a certain brain area which we may term the RIGHT center. The mark of a basic shit is that he has to be right. And right here we must make a diagnostic distinction between the hard-core virus-occupied shit and a plain, ordinary, mean no-good son of a bitch. Some of these sons of bitches don't cause any trouble at all, just want to be left alone, but they will bite if provoked.

    The 'Other Half' is the word. The 'Other Half' is an organism. Word is an organism. The presence of the 'Other Half' is a separate organism attached to your nervous system on an air line of words can now be demonstrated experimentally. One of the most common 'hallucinations' of subject during sense withdrawal is the feeling of another body sprawled through the subject's body at an angle...yes quite an angle it is the 'Other Half' worked quite some years on a symbiotic basis. From symbiosis to parasitism is a short step. The word is now a virus. The flu virus may have once been a healthy lung cell. It is now a parasitic organism that invades and damages the central nervous system. Modern man has lost the option of silence. Try halting sub-vocal speech. Try to achieve even ten seconds of inner silence. You will encounter a resisting organism that forces you to talk. That organism is the word.

    I will tell you: "'the word.'" Alien Word 'the.' "'The word'" of Alien Enemy imprisons "'thee'" in Time. In Body. In Shit. Prisoner, come out. The great skies are open. I Hassan i Sabbah 'rub out the word forever' I cancel all your words forever.“

    Just relax, it always works out.
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:51 am

    We are back stateside........

    I gather that smelly is no friend of the Logos.

    Perhaps the Logos did him wrong. He certainly has a chip on his shoulder, relative thereto.


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    Post by Foot Mann Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:55 am

    The Discloser returned with a bang, rattling cages where Queso sang. Off he drove in a stolen car, but this time not to the nearest bar. While others scampered in dark to complete the mission, the Discloser set off with a different vision. Two weeks he spent in the heat of the jungle, while those nearby were forced to mumble. With Queso safe home, POJG could finally rest, so for 40 minutes he put the Doscloser to test. From beginning to end he regaled of the mission, signed off as the Best Possible Vision. Three time the Discloser fell from his feet, not once landing upon his seat. With blood and bruises as proof of his fall, the Discloser finally could stand tall. The World has changed, it was all arranged, so small it seems, just a simple round LOL ball.
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    Post by Cuan Scott Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:09 am

    Welcome back Dan

    I trust everyone had a great time Smile

    Welcome back Foot,

    Very impressive one !








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    Post by Cuan Scott Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:15 am

    smelly wrote:

    Just relax, it always works out.

    Perhaps Agape all around?




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    Post by U Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:21 am

    Oh good the geniuses are back!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:55 am

    dan wrote:We are back stateside........

    I gather that smelly is no friend of the Logos.  

    Perhaps the Logos did him wrong.  He certainly has a chip on his shoulder, relative thereto.  


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    You got that right muppet.

    And you perpetuate and represent the false narrative.

    Thought has only caused pain.

    It has been of no benefit ultimately to my self at all.

    But all narratives are ultimately false.

    So you are just furniture to me.

    I don’t morally judge the logos anymore than I would judge an invading virus.

    Wetiko.

    It is symbiotic in the beginning and then it takes on its monstrous adult parasitic muppet form.

    Usually the UFO muppet is a great infected muppet to study and observe.

    I have isolated the contagion and infection.

    It takes a full system reboot to begin to free yourself from your thoughts and sense addiction.

    This is a planet wide infection.

    I’m sure it’s just for the show.

    Related to dark matter maybe.

    Still, one can realize they are totally a scripted muppet if they want to face the truth.

    But they don’t.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:58 am

    Reptile wrote:Oh good the geniuses are back!

    We never left moron.

    We stayed to listen to your dumb reptile muppet ass.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:00 am

    Cuan Scott wrote:
    smelly wrote:

    Just relax, it always works out.

    Perhaps Agape all around?


    Thought/Logos is the task master who gives you things to do.

    Seriously, just ignore it.

    You don’t need it at all.

    Relax and it will go away.

    The Way flows like water.
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    Post by U Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:03 am

    dan wrote:Former Senator Harry, who has also been briefed, is suggestomg further funds for ufo research.

    Bwahahaha
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    Post by U Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:04 am

    Aaron wrote:UFO research is ultimately an exercise in total futility.

    Bwahahaha

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