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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:58 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 4 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:33 pm

    You are the most useless.

    Fuck Aaron.

    Pretender.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:37 pm

    I am useless, it's true.

    I prefer it that way

    You are a fart face and you're stinking up the place.

    I'm here to spray Fabreeze after all your farting.

    Sniff sniff

    Ahhhhhhhh

    Spring rain scent


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:41 pm

    Perhaps you do, perhaps you don’t.

    Who knows or cares.

    Shrug.

    Bahahahahahahaha

    Hey Dougiepoo, disclose something or STFU maybe, lying pretenders.

    Your self disclosure is bullshitz.

    Ohhhh, I saw some lights.

    Bahahahahahahahahaha

    Oh please, another story about lights in the sky please.
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    Post by painterdoug Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:54 pm

    ohh I hit a nerve
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:09 pm

    Lol

    Amusing show
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:19 pm

    painterdoug wrote:ohh   I hit a nerve

    Maybe you can paint us a picture, bahahahaha.

    You are dreaming muppet, wake up.

    I just love insulting you.

    It’s easy.

    You are the moron muppet who went on the internet talking about aliens and painting pictures about them to fill your empty life I imagine.

    Man, you are the stupid talking monkey, now aren’t you Wink

    Dan’s bitch.

    Didn’t they give you a pet name too?

    You will always be dougiepoo to me.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:26 pm

    Smelly is quickly turning from goat to troll

    Be careful Smelly/Merlin, Doug might write you out of his musical if you keep trolling him
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:36 pm

    Bend over dougiepoo, I’m coming for your ass.

    You can write a Broadway play or a song about it.



    You do realize you were arguing with a goat about your dream life dougiepoo.

    Hilarious!
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:55 am

    Master Smelly, please bless us with more kicks and curses and big smelly piles of shit today.

    It would be a great blessing.

    Bwahahahaha!

    Dumb ass goat boy

    Have fun with your shit show today Moron Muppet.
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:26 am

    I’ve been watching the videos of folks talking about DMT trips, such as McKenna and Icke, etc.  

    None of them display quite the oppositional defiance (ODD) as smelly.  

    As with smelly, after an initial foray, most report greatly reduced use.

    Icke suggests a conspiracy to suppress the use of psychedelics.  That theory holds less water as time advances.  

    This sort of experience seems to have supplanted the abduction experience, in its cultural significance..... not that abduction was ever a serious rival.  

    If smelly weren’t quite so ODD, we might agree that we are playing a game, and that our bodies serve as tokens in this game.  This game has a very significant verbal component, as smelly would be the last to deny.  

    It is a game of hide and seek.  There may be a denouement..... an all ye, all ye in free....... maybe.  Why not?  

    Just saying.  

    Need there be a Disclosure about any of this?  

    It’s all becoming increasingly obvious...... to all but the professional, die hard materialists...... all five of them.  

    Yes, there may be a showdown between the mystics and the prophetics.  

    Between the personalists and the impersonalists.  

    In as much as the mystics are unable to deny history...... the prophetic personalists win....... hurray for us.  

    Jesus wins..... in the end.  Love wins.  Is smelly still being ODD toward love?  He seems ambivalent...... at best.  Poor loveless child.  

    Me......?  I can love Lais, if I want to.  

    Where does Joe Queso fit into all this?  

    I have received zero feedback from/about Brazil, other than an Ola from Lais.  I have asked her to name her favorite philosophy.  

    We continue with version 1.0/2.0...... out at the Lake.  Joe will mention the Ranch only under his breath.  

    There is no mention of version 3.0.  I guess Kevin is still working on the weight and balance issue.  

    Our only rival in Disclosure continues to be TTSA.  Foot suspects that Diana has not set foot inside an archive, but she does tell a mean tale.  And she has no smelly goat to contend with.  

    The Princess has drones, will travel....... just name an exotic destination.  If it has snow leopards...... so much the better.  It may come down to Diana and Aliyah......  may the best princess win.  It may come down to nanotech v femtotech...... for those who are into technology.  I’m into rabbit holes....... especially intercontinental ones.  

    Me......?  I’m headed to the Northeast Kingdom.  It will only be two below for our sleigh ride....... that’s a passeio de trenó, Lais...... and menos dezoito graus celcius..... fwiw.  

    Maybe I’d better quit before I get into serious trouble.  

    And was dougiepoo actually at the pool?  Only Kashmir knows for sure.  

    Poor smelly...... he’s on his way to becoming our mascot.  Could there be a worse fate?  Um destino pior que um mascote?  

    No, it’s going to be -7, or menos vinte e um ponto seis graus celsius. And the spelling changes, too.

    ........


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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:41 am

    Just started reading Diana's book (purchased it a few minutes ago)... thanks for telling us about it! Looks like a good one!
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    Post by painterdoug Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:47 am

    Aaron

    smelly need not be in my or any musical. He IS the musical !!

    enjoy everyone , cant play today.

    behave lil goat , btw, nice 11 min goat woopinn
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:18 am

    99,

    While you are reading that book just make each word you read sound like a barking dog in your head. The sound of barking dogs needs no translation.

    After you're done reading, hit your head repeatedly with the book until you shout Eureka!.

    Good luck.
    Wink

    Bark bark bark


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:31 am

    painterdoug wrote:Aaron

    smelly need not be in my or any musical.  He IS the musical !!  

    enjoy everyone  ,  cant play today.

    behave lil goat ,  btw,  nice 11 min goat woopinn    

    Ha!

    Smelly's music is absolutely meaningless

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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:34 am

    Diana vs Aliyah?

    Hahahaha

    It's obvious who wins in that matchup

    Nobody

    On another note...

    There is no showdown between personlists and impersonalists, they both work together in perfect harmony.


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:11 am

    Dan, Smelly is the worst idea for a mascot you could ever imagine.  I found a much better mascot.

    Introducing The Space Unicorn...



    Delivering the rainbows all around the world.
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:18 am

    He/she looks exactly like smelly.

    Nobody.......?  Aliyah does Vegas....... so there.

    Impersonalists.......?  You let a personalist get her Foot in the door, and it’s all over but the shouting.


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:18 am

    Damnit....you’re right
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    Post by Cuan Scott Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:36 am

    Re 'Icke', I attended his 10 hour lecture in Dublin.

    Definitely not the crackpot the media portraited for 20 plus years.

    Didn't talk much of psychedelics other than his ayahuasca experience in Peru but is very much on your page re 'Love' and big on dancing Smile


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:39 am

    dan wrote:He/she looks exactly like smelly.

    Nobody.......?  Aliyah does Vegas....... so there.

    Impersonalists.......?  You let a personalist get her Foot in the door, and it’s all over but the shouting.

    Haha!

    That’s true.

    Personalism and the MoAPS is a very effective chrysalis.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:51 am

    It’s called radical zen.

    It’s natural zen.

    I didn’t know what it was and I still don’t.

    Aaron knows nothing about it, doing not doing.

    Aaron, I think our interaction is naturally over.

    Good luck muppet.

    I found it by accident.

    I didn’t even know what it is.

    But this is it.

    The approach was to drive you to your wits end.

    To deny all abstraction for only what is.

    There is no meaning or essence separate from any thing.

    The appearance is the meaning.

    It is a slap in the face.

    A kick in the ass.

    Spit in the face.

    This is always how I have communicated it, bahahahaha.

    You don’t nor will you understand.

    I have to say it’s brilliant.

    It’s fucking funny.

    It’s straight on.

    It’s effortless.

    Again, I just tripped on it naturally.

    I found nothing in my comfy chair.

    You don’t have to go anywhere.

    Read any book or say anything really.

    But speaking is how monkeys communicate.

    There was a smelly goat here 900AD too.

    We seem to always be here.

    Doing not doing.

    Relaxed breathing.

    Just what is.

    No distinctions.

    No way.

    https://terebess.hu/zen/Chao-chouHoffman.pdf


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:54 am

    Two more kicks please.
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:04 am

    Yes, our interaction is naturally over

    Go away now

    It’s true, I know nothing about doing not doing

    It’s natural


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:06 am

    Poor smelly Dan?!

    There is no one here to try to isolate.

    All is perfect as it is.

    Yuh don’t need to realize how odd we are compared to the exaggeration of culture.

    There are no mystics and prophets.

    Silly logos.

    You don’t need at all to feel poor smelly anything.

    Bahahahahaha

    I’m pretending, but I am not of the character.

    Really dude, I’m not even here, but what appears is the meaning.

    Nothing is forced.

    Dan said dougiepoo!

    Bahahahahahahaha


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:07 am

    Aaron wrote:Yes, our interaction is naturally over

    Go away now

    Two more kicks please.

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