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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 4 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:30 pm

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    Consciousness is a momentary wave moving across time manifesting in life on the crest of chaos.

    “Annihilation, the transformation of matter into energy. Life is the temporary crest of a wave within a turbulent ocean, borne and returning to the same energetic froth that composes all.

    We’re all the same consciousness. Every human, from every time, everywhere. We are Hitler and the millions he murdered. We are also Buddha and Jesus though and the millions they inspired. We have been every saint and sinner that has ever existed, and throughout time essentially all human cruelties and all human kindnesses have been exacted upon ourselves. So in being this same consciousness, reincarnated into multiple beings, eventually we start to collectively mature.

    Once we as a species can reach a matured, holistic state, then we can transcend our physical limitations and be annihilated. Cell apoptosis on a microscopic level, and self-destructive behavior on a macroscopic level, are just emblematic that we all seek to return to our ‘oneness’ as a living creature through annihilation. All of humankind seeks oneness through our self-destruction as a species.

    Consciousness, in this sense, is a fleeting sensation. Just as one touches a hot stove and in that fleeting, infinitely fast moment cannot determine the sensation as hot, cold, pain, pleasure, our lives are too minute to be able to discern our own true natures.”

    We cannot perceive the objective nature wholly from our subjective view. There is no way out in this sense.

    So self-destruction is the Return.

    Annihilation, salvation, a freeing of the energy bound in matter.

    I am sure this has been behind many a great perceived evil, which is actually a salvation.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:36 pm

    Just screaming monkeys imitating Human Beings



    My words and being are the dried shit on the heel of eternity on earth.

    My words are abominations to Logos.

    I am the filmy residue of a demon dog fart.

    Oh please, share thy airy Wisdom with us unworthy pretending talking monkeys.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:40 pm

    https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-use-of-shift-delete

    Immediately...please.

    Nothing you do or have done matters.

    You are monkey shit feeding the worms of Eden.

    Be grateful worm food.

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    Post by U Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:15 pm



    "Much love to you and yours"

    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles.htm

    http://www.reptoids.com

    "You'll float too"
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:51 am

    Monkey poop Reptile.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:05 am

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:15 pm

    Accept nothing from anyone
    Confused liars all
    Get lost and stay lost
    Be natural
    Be wild
    Go go go



    You came here because
    You had questions most likely
    Thought wants to perpetuate Thought in you
    You need nothing from here or thing
    Missions create misery and anxiety
    Thought has really pulled one over on us
    Ruthlessly kill thought
    There is nothing to realize
    We made God out of fear
    Only we can kill it
    Human knowledge is monkey shit
    You are a myth
    There is no liberation
    There is no thought about it
    This just happens
    There is no cause
    But the search ends
    I don’t know what happened
    Straight on
    Natural being is the way
    The ego has no part of this
    It happens inspite of my self
    I am just a collection of thoughts
    The search is always the wrong direction
    It’s not in your hands
    There is nothing you can do
    We aren’t special
    I was after salvation once
    I didn’t find an answer that could satisfy
    Any thing

    Leave it
    Drop it
    Stop seeking
    Go away

    Goo Goo

    Ga Ga

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:34 pm

    Lies, cons and muppets, oh my.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:26 pm

    Discloze thizzzzz......

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:52 pm

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    Post by @awestruckt Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:40 am

    Anyone know when Dan is scheduled to return? This place has really gone to the dogs...er goats Smile
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:52 am

    Fuck no

    Fuck Dan and his stupid thoughts

    He’s an idiot and so is anyone who listens to him

    Catch up idiots

    You have no idea who you are or what is happening

    Moron muppets following liars and thoughts

    Your own thoughts betray you and you don’t see to ignore them

    Here, pour some acid on your idols of self, don’t build more castles in the sky, it all falls down...







    Your thoughts and works are monkey shit

    You don’t even see what is before you

    Nothing

    **MUAH**
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:29 pm

    I’m going to point you to the heart of all of it.

    Only when you can laugh at this, will you be aware.

    At the end of thought, you will find nothing.

    Your worst fears realized.

    It’s the end of the road for you.

    If you accept this, you won’t be enlightened.

    There is no such thing or state of mind.

    You will just be lucid, clear, spontaneous, worry free, peaceful/laughing Awareness.

    Anything else than awareness is bullshitz.

    That’s, just like, my experience, man, unless you have your own, you will never get close to now.

    Maybe you should just stay away, you scared thinking talking monkeys.

    But if you have the courage to get lost and lose all sense...

    “If the darkness comes cut it down.
    If the brightness comes cut it away.
    If people come don't answer them.
    If the Clear Sky comes shatter it completely.
    If the Void ever comes, slash it with your sword.”

    Pick up your sword and destroy all thought.

    Then eviscerate your own thoughtful mind.

    You will then awaken, like lightening, CRACK!

    And then you will just be here now.

    No answers, no more questions, nothing mystical.

    That is terrifying to mind.

    Go with that.

    I’ve said what is possible to say about it, which is nothing.
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:53 pm

    UGs words are shit

    Smelly's words are shit

    Dan's words are shit

    My words are shit

    Reptile is only just barely a little bit funny....and his words are shit


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    Post by SurfBum Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:41 pm



    Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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    Post by 99 Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:35 pm

    Aaron wrote:UGs words are shit

    Smelly's words are shit

    Dan's words are shit

    My words are shit

    Reptile is only just barely a little bit funny....and his words are shit

    Ok.. alright... everyone here is full of shit but could you be more specific... starting with YOU?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:57 pm

    The seeker must die
    The sleeper must awaken
    Then you can be reality

    The dream is over...



    These are strange dayz indeed
    What are you gonna do
    Where are you gonna go
    We want to forget ourselves
    But Thought won’t let us forget
    You must kill it where you find it
    Listen, do it, it goes better, try it
    We bring much laughter and confusion
    Some call it Magick
    The search for the grail
    Love is the flower
    You have to let it grow
    Most peculiar Mama
    Playing these mind games foreva
    Projecting these images into space and time
    Yes is the answer



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    Post by 99 Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:08 pm

    It's called a spiritual awakening. Duh
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    Post by 99 Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:21 pm

    Those who play mind games are the ones who think they "know" but, they are,  in reality, pretentious, arrogant idiots. Anyone who really knows what the hell is really going on does not play mind games because they know that it's a complete waste of time.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:58 pm

    Sweet 99

    You do not know

    You are just an appearance

    As I am

    It is utterly hopeless

    There is no dreamer

    No one can wake up

    The dream is over

    You can’t know

    You can’t understand

    This is just the I AM dream

    There is nothing real in appearance

    No one has a story

    It is futile to answer

    The I and apparent mind is dualistic

    But all is just an appearance of goat farts

    Resistance is futile

    You can’t comprend nothing

    You can only know the apparent appearances of nothing

    This is the total collapse of the self

    Only you can let it happen

    I am just nothing deceiving and describing itself in negatives

    I am not speaking to anyone

    No one is here

    There are no separate persons here

    There is no this and that

    There is only what is

    There is no goal

    No teaching

    Only complete illumination
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    Post by 99 Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:25 pm

    You talk like someone who is consumed with death. 

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