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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:58 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 4 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
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    Post by painterdoug Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:17 am

    I believe around the same time there was a posting on the web about that pyramid over DC.  I remember seeing it.


    HERE IT IS/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HABC13OQn0Y


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    Post by SurfBum Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:20 am

    UFOs do have a role to play in the Eschaton it seems.

    What is that role?

    It may have something to do with quantum entaglement.

    I only speak from my own experience.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:02 am

    PFs post is a good one, if you want to chase Thought.

    You are all mostly looking in the wrong direction.

    You don’t want the real answer.

    So we distract ourselves with portals and lights in the sky.

    We aren’t ready, or we are.

    But muppets were born to perpetuate Thought.

    We are just talking thinking great apes.

    But we are not thinking our thoughts.

    We receive them.

    I don’t trust the source of Thought.

    We are no greater than the mosquito.

    We are doing what we were born to do as an ape.

    As you were.
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:15 am

    I know something John Snow.

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    Post by painterdoug Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:18 am

    "We are no greater than the mosquito."

    thats a great thought, now if we can only discover who started it




    I only see my trail


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    Post by SurfBum Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:22 am

    Bwahahaha!

    Yes indeed...

    Who are you?

    The great caterpillar question.

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    Post by hobbit Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:45 am



    They love human sewerage water.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:29 pm

    painterdoug wrote:"We are no greater than the mosquito."

    thats a great thought, now if we can only discover who started it




    I only see my trail

    The culprit was Thought who made us believe we are someone and greater.

    To see that clearly, let go of your distinctions.

    Can’t say anything then Wink

    Watch out for the bug zappers.

    My mind has very few thoughts left and certainly no good ones of any value to anyone.

    I don’t write or live from thought.

    I am not speaking.

    I am not here.

    I AM...a pinball.


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    Post by painterdoug Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:32 pm

    I am magic,  and I write the songs....


    //

    took some liberty with Barry Manilos line




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    I'm going to think about that


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:34 pm

    painterdoug wrote:I am magic,  and I write the songs....

    HA

    Seriously though, fuck logical reasonable thinking Wink

    The Crazy Wisdom is not Thought, it is realized by Awareness.

    Thought, all it does is seek to become permanent.

    Nothing is permanent.

    Hear that Thought, I’m calling you out as a liar and thief.

    I see your game and I call you.

    You are bluffin us Thought.

    You made it all up.

    Good one.

    You fooled me good.

    Again!

    Again!

    I want to go again!

    Being befooled is great fun.

    What else you gonna do with eternity?!

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    to oneself, one must be part midwife,
    part executioner: sometimes
    rebirthing oneself, sometimes
    annihilating and leaving useless bits
    by the wayside, until the self soars
    free and clear of attachment, obstruction,
    and delusion and joins all buddhas past,
    present, and future.

    Then one can stop fracturing reality
    with names and ideas of self, other, buddha,
    enlightenment, and so on.

    There, beyond definitions and beyond
    mind, reality flows like pure water.

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    Post by SurfBum Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:21 pm

    Smile bitches!
    Wink

    If you breathin' you achievin'

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    Post by dan Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:54 pm

    One way to think of our time loop, or our closed timelike curve (CTC), is to suppose that time is pushing us, and imagination is pulling us, from the Alpha to the Omega of the nearly continuous ouroboric circuit.  This is the loop of phenomenal/experiential/historic time.  

    For deep time, however, there is a logical dimension.  This is also the dimension of potentiality.  

    One might think of the co-created time loop as having been crystallized out of a chaotic abyss of potentiality, where the seed crystal is the monadic Source of personhood.  

    Our bodies, likewise, crystallize around our souls...... keeping in mind that there is actually only one, recirculated Soul that we all share.  

    This primordial Soul can imagine the best possible Creation, all at once....... ‘originally’.  This primordial Soul is logically fleshed out to be the Creation in which we now reside...... while retaining its personal core...... reflected in all of us.  

    There never was a time before Creation.  Our self-contained cosmic soul exists in Eternity.  Neither are there competing creations.  

    There is a sort of shadow of Creation, and this can be thought of as the Hive, surrounding the Earth logically, also a limbo land, through which we venture back to the Source/Monad.  

    In this return journey, all Creation is reconciled/redeemed, if you will.

    The cosmic Coherence is finally made manifest. This final manifestation occurs beyond time..... in Eternity.

    And, yes, smelly and Aaron may be able to look back at our muppet like strivings from that vantage. They are rather impatient with the games we play....... not quite yet completely reconciled..... neither we nor they.


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    Post by SurfBum Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:02 pm

    True....partially.

    When we were kicked down the rabbit hole it was because Mama was sending us off to school.

    This is the sort of school where we are allowed to retake any course we failed at as many times as necessary until we are ready to move on to the next course.

    This continues until all required courses have been completed and we get our Diploma and go back home to Mama.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:55 pm

    Dan wrote:There never was a time before Creation.

    This is pretty good Dan. You must have had help because I know you didn’t figure that out Wink

    Not too shabby though overall.

    I give it 4 Smelly Goats!!!!

    I smell Thought’s hand in your mind and words.

    Fucking words.

    If I could do it over, I wouldn’t learn a language or learn to speak.

    Maybe one more go in the CTC?!

    Not judging Thought, just naming it, not trying to ruin the game.

    The game is the game.

    The wheel is the wheel.

    It doesn’t matter really at all.

    Not one bit, but that’s ok, frees one.

    Just relax...

    Problems and solutions belong to Thought.

    The Alpha and Omega belongs to Thoth/Thought.

    So as far as what you say being meaningful in any way objectivley, you know damn well it isn’t.

    But I came to the basic point in mind you describe and then something happened.

    I did something sponateanous and I cheated Thought of it’s prize.

    Now it hardly shows up.

    Why would a mind clouded with thoughts become still?

    That is very interesting, isn’t it?

    Everything you described, and you damn well know this too, is exactly what IT is not!!!!

    Bahahahahahahaha

    Thought, I invite you to tea, I’m not sore at you.

    I’ll not fight Thought or argue with it.

    I’ll just laugh at it.

    I love your game Dan, you are one fun muppet, really!

    It’s hard to walk the high wire.

    You can only do it if you know you aren’t doing it Wink

    What you can see is fucking crazy.

    How?

    Wei Wu Wei is the Way of the Way.

    So you all will need to learn it and practice it if you want to tame your mind.

    Your mind has been very very naughty.

    Oh the things it thinks.

    It has experience being the murderer and the victim.

    I can imagine how that could be quite intoxicating.

    A real mind fuck.

    Thought is a naughty little shadow.

    But it’s very fun and satisfying to grapple with this, as long as you aren’t being murdered, but that’s impossible, so have a blast.

    To be looking over your shoulder and in the mirror and seeing behind the image out of the side of your eyes is strange.

    You just let go of your beliefs and problems.

    Attach to what you need and desire from the heart.

    Attachment isn’t a problem.

    Seeking permanence is the nature of the great ape, it’s Wu Wei.

    It isn’t a problem.

    When they learn they can’t, they wake up.

    I claim nothing.

    I know nothing really of any value to anyone but me.

    I have realized the cosmos literally and non-literally.

    You can imagine what that might feel like.

    You can only experience it, if you can imagine it.

    Thought is one slippery bastard, beware of its drive to perpetuate itself within you.

    But who are you or me or anyone?

    Don’t know.

    Straight on.
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:15 pm

    Who are we?

    We are that we are.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:53 pm

    I am just a happy barking dog...



    I’m a monkey who went back up in the tree...

    Cause fuckit down there.

    The aliens lured us out of the trees with hotdogs and coke.

    Then evolution gave us Trump.

    May you live in interesting times. (That’s a curse btw)
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:44 am

    The Aliya Prokofyeva UN speech is a DeepFake based on a UN Erdogan speech, with the movement of people in the background used as reference.

    http://webtv.un.org/search/turkey-%E2%80%93-president-addresses-general-debate-73rd-session/5839883153001/?term=&lan=english&page=187

    Remarkable hoax.
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    Post by painterdoug Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:18 am

    Paranoid F/ that one looks more fake than the Prokofyeva speech! lol

    non of the audio synced with the visual. perhaps this is the fake? and the other real.

    the prokofyeva speech is real. a real fake. the other a fake real .

    were in deep trouble ,
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    Post by dan Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:43 am

    After some more soul searching, I think I understand how atoms can tuned to different contexts....... from the personal to the interpersonal and to the impersonal.  

    Well, not so much how, as to why, and the possibility, thereof.

    And, yes, Doug briefed me about Bob K and the foot.

    Doug hadn’t heard the sequel to the Steven Segal rumor.  

    Smile bitches.......


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    Post by painterdoug Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:00 am

    Dan /   are you saying there could be a cuckoo bird scenario ?  Where one bird lays an egg, and when away from the nest , the cuckoo flys in, pushes the other birds egg out and replaces it with its own.

    then the unsuspecting mother raise someone else chick

    hey,  Im raising my own chick here!
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    Post by GrandCru Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:02 am

    I'm sure Foot seems unconcerned. I would want people to think I was unconcerned if I were in his position. But I'm certain there's a degree of panic for him.

    The Bob K show should prove interesting at least.
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    Post by dan Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:13 am

    Yes, smile, but whatever you do, don’t back and don’t look down.
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    Post by Araneidae Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:07 am

    Dan,

    And what sort of game is Spider Man playing at......? His avatar appears to be lost in space. Poor guy....... he can’t even find his way in, out of the cold. Somebody lend him a security blanket....... please, hurry! wrote:

    An ANcIent ONE sends reGARDS, a game eye PLAY is TAFL. THE cold is IN and the WAY is out. SEE a Cure and IT might be a SICK blanket...


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    Post by SurfBum Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:20 am

    dan wrote:
    Smile bitches.......

    Bwahahahaha
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:06 am

    The Chicken Little walks into a pizza shop and says.....

    "Can you make me one with everything?"

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