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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:58 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 4 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:56 am

    Goo goo

    Ga ga

    You see why we exist here then 99, to negate all word and sense.

    OMF has become a black hole.

    You feel the gravity of it?!

    Bahahaha



    All is perfect and mutually arising and destroying.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:14 am

    whoknows wrote:Goo goo g'joob

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUNqsfFUwhY

    Have you lost more than you know smelly. Do you really know Love?

    You haven't answered a question Dan keeps asking,"why is there something rather than nothing?"

    I know nothing.

    I need nothing.

    I want nothing.

    I have nothing.

    I am love.

    There are no questions or answers to questions.

    If you have it ‘figured’ out, glad for you, are you relaxed and at peace, then fun for you, life a wreck, fun for you Wink

    All is perfectly imperfect.

    This needs no explanation.

    Naturally it will work out.
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:27 am

    whoknows wrote:Goo goo g'joob

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUNqsfFUwhY

    Have you lost more than you know smelly. Do you really know Love?

    You haven't answered a question Dan keeps asking,"why is there something rather than nothing?"

    There is both, but using dualistic words and thinking can only reveal a part of totality
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    Post by U Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:42 am

    Cool story, bro!
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    Post by hobbit Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:55 am

    smelly wrote:Goo goo

    Ga ga

    You see why we exist here then 99, to negate all word and sense.

    OMF has become a black hole.

    You feel the gravity of it?!

    Bahahaha



    All is perfect and mutually arising and destroying.


    There is no such force called gravity.
    Black hole are mere reversal zones, thus there is no return signals.

    Thus You most honoured one need to stop thinking in this negative manner and start embracing the positive.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:13 pm

    I don’t think, number one.

    I automatically move.

    I don’t need to start or stop doing anything, same for you.

    Do not doing.

    I don’t make distinctions of right or wrong, positive negative, both are here in equal measure or you wouldn’t be breathing.

    There is no such any thing.

    Just mutual arising and destroying of appearances.

    I only use words to describe the appearances to talking monkeys.

    What you say about it doesn’t matter to me at all.

    I have dropped any feeling about it.

    One is negative and one positive, it doesn’t matter.

    They both are part of all of it.

    You are thinking very dualistically my hairy footed friend.

    But that’s fine, we negate each other.

    I am not dualistic in action, though my mind appears dualistic.



    I am not telling anyone to change.

    You are change.

    I am simply pointing out the obvious, which the dualistic can’t see because that’s what I am doing not doing.

    And I speak metaphoricaly and symbolically of black holes.

    If you struggle against this, it is your struggle, there is no struggle here or one possible.

    No one, is doing anything really.


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    Post by dan Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:20 pm

    wk,

    Yes, we have to keep smelly’s nose to the grindstone.  

    I’m slowly reaching out for feedback on Brazil.  So far, nada.  

    Kevin and Joe are back to being lab rats.  Doug knows nothing.  

    My end of the grape vine is silent.  

    Joe mentioned the ranch, under his breath.  I would look there.  What happened to the committee of seven?  

    Diana’s Cosmic book is a good read.  Foot gives little credence to the Archive segments.  

    She is an implied fan of Ray Kurzweil’s singularity. She is also a fan of Sister Mary Agreda’s bilocation to the colonies..... using only angelic technology.  

    What technology did Joe use?  Joe had a robustly entangled infrastructure.  

    In the spirit of monism, it seems that no strict distinction may be drawn between spiritual and physical bodies.  

    Levitation and bilocation may be closely related phenomena.  

    Same with OBEs and NDEs....... not to mention remote viewing.  

    Needless to say, I’m no fan of Kurzweil’s. He’s looking through the wrong end of the telescope.

    Diana is trying hard to keep the nuts&bolts folks happy...... good luck!

    The Catholic Church is dead set against any millennial enthusiasm.

    So is every established order.


    (cont.......)


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:25 pm

    We don’t need to do anything and anyone who thinks they know what others should be doing is an idiot know something talking monkey.

    I wouldn’t look anywhere these talking monkeys are looking.

    I don’t look for anything.

    I just see it all.

    You are not in control here.

    Nothing is.

    The arrogance of you older talking monkeys is fun to play with.

    Lots of them screaming about.

    Know something monkeys are wrong by nature but they don’t know it.

    That’s how the cosmos lives them.

    Who next would like a kiss or smack, I have both for you, I can give them to you at the same time.

    I am pointless, relax muppets.

    It is your nature to cling to your appearance and be afraid of what you don’t know.

    You are functioning perfectly.
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    Post by 99 Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:51 pm

    Looked over Dianna's book on Amazon and will download the Kindle version of it. Thanks Dan for telling us about it! 

    Smelly... got half way through that Alan Watts Youtube vid link... very interesting! Will listen to the rest of it later this evening.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:47 pm

    As u like 99.

    I don’t read books anymore Dan.

    Burned em all.

    I’ll listen to poetry read out loud or YouTube chats, but that’s it.

    Turning down the volume of talking monkey logos is needed to clear one of nonsense.
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    Post by U Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:04 pm

    I'm sorry, it's time to forgive yourselves and move on.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:40 pm

    U wrote:I'm sorry, it's time to forgive yourselves and move on.

    We chat here to have fun.

    It’s obvious you hear nothing here.

    Join in or go somewhere else.

    Or I can tear your small mind into shreds.

    As you like.

    Clueless pretending monkey.

    Forgive yourself.

    Nothing else is your concern.
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:36 pm

    Let it go
    Let it flow

    Nothing is needed
    Forgiveness is a sham

    Everything is always as it should be, there is nothing to forgive

    There is no real self to be forgiven

    Duh
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:27 pm

    If you think you understand anything I have said, you have missed my pointless point entirely.

    One could fill the universe with points, but that would be pointless.

    The ancient Zen would come to a gathering and flip open a fan and leave.

    What is there to say?

    Really.

    Foolish words is all.

    More is said sitting together in silence.

    There is nothing to say about all this.

    So I must be a ghost.

    A cosmic fart about to pop.

    Bye bye I guess.

    How long can a fart persist?

    It’s going to be a smelly one.
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    Post by whoknows Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:18 am

    smelly wrote:I know nothing.

    I need nothing.

    I want nothing.

    I have nothing.

    I am love.

    What you say precludes love.


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    Post by dan Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:33 am

    I’m not sure I recognize the existence of muppets.  

    I recognize the existence of folks who seek understanding........ coherence..... same thing.  

    smelly claims to have obtained satori.  


    wk,

    Yes, we should wonder if smelly knows love.

    Bliss is supposed to be beyond love.   Wonderful.  

    There are many of us who are trapped in a scientific understanding of the world.  

    Do not get me wrong...... science is necessary to our appreciation of Creation.  But it is a bridge to understanding.  Science is jealous of its bridge, and brooks no rivals.  

    Science will be tamed....... housebroken, if you will.  

    There are many paths to satori.  smelly is jealous of his path..... his shortcut...... his short circuit.  He brooks no rivals.  The BPWH pretends to be a rival to spontaneous satori.  

    It is a social process.  smelly does not recognize the social sphere, or does not distinguish it from the background or Void.  

    It is far from clear which path represents the Mahayana and which path the Hinayana.  It might not make any difference.  


    Fairly often I take a detour into mathematics......

    Mathematics is a bridge between the reductionist and holist views of the world. Mathematics is a mixture of both. Mathematical genius is a rather pure form of genius....... it deals with the harmony of the spheres, as none other.



    (cont........)


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    Post by painterdoug Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:13 am

    smelly/  just saw your response to my last ,    good onya!   relax and have fun



    /// smelly/ lol

    have fun kids, gotta get back to creating my meaningless songs for my meaningless show in my meaningless existence .

    hey, the pressures off ! i feel great!


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:19 am

    I found nothing.

    There is no such thing as satori.

    Correct, I dropped all distinctions.

    There are no more concepts left.

    Wk is a confused old hippie muppet.

    Dan is a babbling talking muppet.

    There is no understanding anything mental midgets.

    Your talking monkey thoughts and words are utter shit.

    Did you get that Wink

    You are already there.

    There is no thought that will take you anywhere.

    If you knew this you would share it, but you don’t.

    That’s fine.

    Ignorance is bliss.
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    Post by dan Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:25 am

    doug,

    Yes, I think smelly does need a course in relaxation........ your eyes are getting heavy..... your breath is becoming even........ think of your favorite retreat........ your garden.......


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:27 am

    painterdoug wrote:smelly/  just saw your response to my last ,    good onya!   relax and have fun



    ///   smelly/  lol  

    have fun kids,  gotta get back to creating my meaningless songs for my meaningless show in my meaningless existence  .

    hey,   the pressures off !  i feel great!  

    I am utterly relaxed
    I can do this forever
    It’s effortless action
    Doing not doing
    You are utterly pointless and meaningless
    And you will be forgotten
    Burn yourself into ashes
    There is nothing to do
    If you are wise you will feel great
    If you don’t it’s entirely your illusory problem
    Wish you clarity
    Maybe let yourself be a zen muppet
    Morons
    Yuh can hold nothing
    You always had it
    How stupid are you



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    Post by painterdoug Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:28 am

    dan/ smelly will always be a pebble in the collective shoe. its his job, Im beginning to like it! lol
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:31 am

    Who cares what you like confused moron muppet Wink

    You are pointless.

    Please continue Dan.

    I have done my daily work of pointing out how pointless we are.

    I’m good.

    I AM IT

    Foreva

    There may still be some seeds of hostility left

    Bahahahaha
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    Post by painterdoug Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:39 am

    smelly, if all is meaningless, than all the meaninglessness, is meaningful

    meaningless meaningful meaninglessness
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:44 am

    It means nothing.

    You project false meaning on all and pervert it.

    I have seen the light of a 1000 suns and then...

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    Life is not about meaning.

    Its just this.

    A sudden crash of thunder.

    Mind blown open with a crack of lightening.

    And there sat a smelly goat.

    An ordinary goat.

    Surrounded by talking monkeys.

    Perfect.

    Please continue your lunacy Dan.

    Thank you very much.

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