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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:58 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 4 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
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    Post by Cuan Scott Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:58 pm

    Sounds 'cool' ..

    How's Santiago getting on with his journey?
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    Post by 99 Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:33 pm

    I love snow! Enjoy it while it lasts!

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    Post by dan Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:13 am

    Scott,

    Santiago is doing great, no thanks to smelly.  

    smelly hates it when someone makes things easier for others.  Santiago/Coelho does that.  smelly can’t stand it.  

    The wind has howled most of the night. The drifts just get bigger.  

    The j-man made things easiest of all.  It sets smelly’s teeth on edge.  

    smelly is the strict school marm..... no crib sheets allowed.  

    No queen bees allowed.  

    Every one for themselves.   Dog eat dog.  

    Welcome to smelly’s world.  

    Jesus meets people where they are..... on the path.  

    smelly obliterates the path, and laughs.  

    Mahayana....?  No, siree.  

    It’s Hinayana, or bust.  

    The path leads through the forest.

    Some can’t see the forest for the trees.

    Others can’t see the trees for the forest.

    It’s a double bind..... for most of us, smelly included.

    .......
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    Post by Cuan Scott Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:07 am

    dan wrote:

    The wind has howled most of the night. The drifts just get bigger.  

    .......

    Dan,

    Where you out taking tips from Santiago and the Alchemist?

    I think Smelly is really one of those big soft dogs who has a big and loud bark but really would lick anyone to death..

    He is all love really Smile
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    Post by 99 Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:19 am

    This forum should link up with the Zohar Stargate TV YouTube channel... or rather, the Zohar Entertainment Group. Sheesh, everybody else is on it. Rumor has it that it's connected with Mossad but I seriously wonder about that because just because the director of that entity is Israeli does not necessarily imply that they are Mossad... but then again, could be wrong about that.

    Question: Could it be that Mossad is in someway guiding the UFO (and other related topics too) narrative? I wonder about that sometimes.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:28 pm

    Dan, you are very funny.

    There is no path or need for any, I have erased all that I found.

    Thought is designed to hide feelings.

    If you would like my odd view of things, thought free, you are free to call me and we can discuss anytime gratis.

    I don't care what you are doing or not.

    Your other muppets I'm sure mostly follow thought, I mostly don't Wink

    I won't be public anymore, it's pointless, as I am.

    Peace.
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    Post by GSB/SSR Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:58 pm

    Materialism rears its ugly head: Topic of recent interest (refers to MITRE HFGW JASON study)

    https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/a5/7b/8e/c4e27782082a8f/US20180229864A1.pdf


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    Post by painterdoug Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:11 pm

    Gary/ you mean it wont work? Smile
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    Post by dan Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:35 am

    It seems that smelly is throwing in the towel, yet again.  

    Gary is still holding out hope for astral technology/materialism in the form of electro gravitics.  Lots of luck, Gary....... you might wish to try astral projection.  

    It has occurred to me that Disclosure politics may be raising its ugly head as we head into the valley of Impeachment.  That may well be the Trump card that donald is holding.  

    This Trump card is turning out to be a hot potato, however.  

    And chicken little could end up being the potato.  In which case, donald’s goose is cooked.  Very sorry, donny.  There are likely to be several geese in that same pot.

    Birds of a feather flock together....... when dinner time finally rolls around.  

    We might wish to consult with the axis of ‘evil’.  They might also be throwing in the towel....... TTSA.

    I’d also want to check with Robert Hickson and Michael Pillsbury...... just in case things heat up.......
    The time has come," the Walrus said, “To talk of many things: Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax— Of cabbages—and kings— And why the sea is boiling hot— And whether pigs have wings.”


    11:50...........

    Portal ‘technology’ is alleged to be a significant part of our continuing international respect, which donny is happy to exploit.  donny’s early knowledge of the queen bee may have figured in the rise of his political fortunes.  

    One might suppose that the alleged presidential briefing memo recently circulated to the cabinet would already be leaking, but not to my knowledge.  

    The practical question is whether donny will feel any pressure to play his queen card, or can he continue to keep it close to his vest.  

    His trump card being known to only a few well placed insiders might suffice to keep the feds off his tail.  Disclosure continues to stay in its back seat....... sorry, sports fans.  

    donny is no dummy....... you can never play your ace.  Its potency resides only in its potentiality.  

    I’m a bit skeptical of the alleged memo, just for this reason.  Does donald envision retaining control, once in the open?  I’m dubious.  


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    Post by GSB/SSR Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:46 am

    Dan: Birds of a feather flock together....... when dinner time finally rolls around.

    Mother and child reunion: scrambled eggs and chicken (little?) breakfast

    Speaking of all good things coming to an end, Dan did you notice this:

    Assignee : United States of America as represented by the Secretary of the Nary , Patuxent River MD (US)

    [ 0038 ] The implications of colliding / focusing HFGWs
    generated by rapidly accelerated vibration / spin of electrically charged systems can be used in applications of propulsion as well as the extreme disruption of a planetary body ( if so desired ) since it can be shown that the energy level ( gain in potential energy ) capable of annihilating a planet
    such as the Earth is on the order of 10^32 Joules ... Imagine a plurality of HFGWG devices ( a minimum of four modules ) , aligned around a planetary body or planetoid ( asteroid / comet ) along a planar axis ( four cardinal points ) . The emitted HFGWs would impinge on each other in such a manner as to severely disrupt the vacuum energy state at a spacetime locality denoting a point of impact ( collision of gravitons with gravitons ) . At this disruption point , energy would be amplified to such a high degree as to generate a spacetime curvature singularity , leading to total destruction of the planetary body or planetoid ( which can be an asteroid or comet on an impact trajectory with Earth ) .




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    Post by hobbit Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:40 am

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    Dan should sing this to You Smelly.

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    Post by dan Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:58 am

    You’re right, Hobbit.

    I checked in with Bill L....... he is sticking by the Nimitz story, and discounting all others.
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    Post by painterdoug Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:10 pm

    Dan / I thought the Skeptico interview with Kevin Day was pretty credible and adds to the conversation

    https://skeptiko.com
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:45 pm

    hobbit wrote:
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    Dan should sing this to You Smelly.

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    I won’t be holding my breath for a seranade from the old man.

    I gave away what I had freely, which is frustratingly nothing, I know.

    Nothing is required.

    I’m still thoughtless mostly but for a few burps of thinking Wink

    Sure is a lot of empty space up in here.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:24 pm

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    Post by dan Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:59 am

    Yes, smelly, I can be a merciless school marm.  

    I am still worried about Bill, after yesterday’s conversation......

    Bill, whom I’ve known almost as long as foot, has become increasingly cynical and estranged.  When I previously spoke with him, six months ago, I did not embrace his Frevor interview story, and he is still resentful.

    According to foot, everyone who’s not on our team is on our team is on Hal’s team, Bill being no exception.  

    Foot suggested I might wish to go to Laughlin, where the two other teams will be amply represented, the third team being the Greer team.  

    The deLongs are characterized as the pessimists, while the Greers are the optimists..... depending on whether the ETs are hostile or friendly.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:06 am

    The smelly team is the one to watch.

    Remember that scene in Close Encounters when that bus full of the world’s best and brightest were rejected by the cute little aliens.

    It was the man who followed his vision...

    It was the man who became a child...

    Who was invited into the ship.

    There are no alien ships.

    There are no UFOs.

    They are like rainbows.

    If you meet a UT, you made a rainbow connection.

    You remember what Kermit said about that.

    We are all little waves of energy riding the big wave of consciousness.

    Entangled with everything.

    Life aint so bad on the big wave.

    The Big Wave is kinda fun.

    You are guided by your awareness.

    Our always on pilot light.

    No pilot light, no body, no awareness.

    You are a projection of awareness.

    Most just wont go in for that nonsense.

    You don’t have to worry about anything.

    You don’t have to do anything, you are energy.

    Energy, that’s a funny word.

    Thought is just focused directed energy.

    You do something, you focus energy.

    Energy originated from the Greek and means ‘shining light’.

    Energy can Zap you!

    You can become a superconductor of energy.

    Riding the light, kinda makes all that monkey business seem silly now doesn’t it.
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    Post by whoknows Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:29 am

    smelly wrote:The smelly team is the one to watch.

    Remember that scene in Close Encounters when that bus full of the world’s best and brightest were rejected by the cute little aliens.

    It was the man who followed his vision...

    It was the man who became a child...

    Who was invited into the ship.

    There are no alien ships.

    There are no UFOs.

    They are like rainbows.

    If you meet a UT, you made a rainbow connection.

    You remember what Kermit said about that.

    We are all little waves of energy riding the big wave of consciousness.

    Entangled with everything.

    Life aint so bad on the big wave.

    The Big Wave is kinda fun.

    You are guided by your awareness.

    Our always on pilot light.

    No pilot light, no body, no awareness.

    You are a projection of awareness.

    Most just wont go in for that nonsense.

    You don’t have to worry about anything.

    You don’t have to do anything, you are energy.

    Energy, that’s a funny word.

    Thought is just focused directed energy.

    You do something, you focus energy.

    Energy originated from the Greek and means ‘shining light’.

    Energy can Zap you!

    You can become a superconductor of energy.

    Riding the light, kinda makes all that monkey business seem silly now doesn’t it.

    A lot of "knowing" going on there for a non knowing non being. Theoretically speaking of course.

    Subjectively not very fun either. Careful, or your going to do yourself a mischief.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:41 am

    There is no objective or subjective.

    Nothing is theoretical.

    You don’t have to be careful about anything.

    Ha.

    Just live and dance and stfu, relax muppet.

    Your are in dualism.

    I didn’t say anything.

    I don’t know nuthin.

    You don’t know shit.

    You don’t hear anything.

    You are just being energy following your own pattern.

    Enjoy.
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    Post by whoknows Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:49 am

    smelly wrote:Your are in dualism.

    I didn’t say anything.

    I don’t know nuthin.

    You don’t know shit.

    You don’t hear anything.

    Funny, I was thinking the same of you.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:51 am

    I don’t think about you at all.

    We have nothing for each other, so let go whatever is bugging you maybe.

    No one is keeping score muppet.

    You can do as you like.

    How about you don’t think about me and ignore me Wink

    I’m not your problem.

    I can’t seem to find any.

    Shhhhhhhh, go do your old hippie shit and change your depends.
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    Post by whoknows Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:04 am

    LOL back to the old transference (gig again I see.

    free distionary online wrote:Psychoanalysis
    the redirection to a substitute, usually a therapist, of emotions that were originally felt in childhood (in a phase of analysis called transference neurosis ).

    At least I do see something, you if you looked would still see nothing.

    The only reason I am here is because you are such a noisy umm goat... LOL

    And the problem is as always, you think you possess the answer, nothing.

    Come now, have you ever thought of anyone but your self?

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