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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:38 pm

    A meditation based on your new arrival Aaron.

    Just fell out of the sky.

    The baby is the living embodiment of beginner’s mind.

    And that’s what we are aiming for in every moment by not aiming.

    That’s Aaron’s point Dan, don’t aim.

    Be one with the bow
    Be one with the earth
    Be one with the sky
    Be one with the target
    Be one with the arrow
    Be one with your body

    Then you will let go just when you need to. This is Wei Wu Wei, doing not doing and is my Way.

    10

    Can you embrace both the abstract and the concrete,
    And see them as two sides of the same coin?
    This will help you maintain integrity
    And avoid internal contradiction.

    Meditating upon, and subtilizing your inner energy
    Allows you to become as pure and receptive as a newborn.
    Examining your perceptions of the world
    Allows you to cleanse them of all dust and distortion.
    Identifying with the people over whom you have influence
    Prevents being distracted by your own self-interest.

    As temptations avail themselves to you
    Can you remain steadfast as a mother bird in her nest?
    As you grow wise and knowledgeable about many things,
    Can you retain the modesty of an amateur?

    Both the Tao and the sage nurture the people
    Without assuming any ownership of them.
    They act without expecting results,
    And lead without controlling.
    Human beings call this virtue.
    It is the very embodiment of Tao—
    Tao manifesting itself via the human heart.

    —Tao Fucking De Ching

    WOWEE

    That shuts me and Dan up and makes that little baby the smartest one in the Cosmos.

    Muppets are very stupid in this time and blinded.

    Always comes back to love being a bitch and the only way, the whore and the virgin.

    Dan, go subtilize your inner energy.

    The path of the warrior and the fool and of the whore and the virgin, is Love.


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:44 pm

    Aaron wrote:We all know what we need to know when we need to know it.

    Entanglement points us to ourselves.

    We all blow in the wind together as one entangled mess.

    Whee!

    Smile


    You wanna see some real Ancestor Magick?!

    Yesterday, Aaron the Zen Muppet, I read about this crazy new theory on entanglement and error correction and now with your comment, I know they are onto the big secret in the sky.

    All about de Sitter spaces and holograms or some such nonsense. And son of a bitch I posted a post the other day on the Escher picture and it being a map of eternity.

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-space-and-time-could-be-a-quantum-error-correcting-code-20190103/

    That’s crazy time there and makes intuitive sense somehow as a software developer.

    Ding ding ding, triple synchronicity there on the most esoteric of subjects, entanglement and the illusion of matter.

    They will only see half the pie is a lie.
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:54 pm

    Read your meditation to baby Aria, this is what she did:

    Neutral

    Nothing...just stared straight on.

    She is very Zen.

    I can't help but grin when I watch her watching me.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:56 pm

    Don’t know, straight on with baby mind.

    Goo goo

    Ga ga

    Makes perfect sense to me.

    But then I’m just a dumb goat.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:01 pm

    "... and from a great light, spring a great darkness; and the image survive and the imagination vanish, and idols replace the gods, and churches of brick and stone the mysteries of the forests and the mountains, and the rapture which girds the hearts of men like a circle of pure emerald light."

    http://www.the-equinox.org/vol1/no3/eqi03010a.html?fbclid=IwAR32TAFapcge0ykv89XFG1qqVXye6y34QtqnKJ1TfyxG821TM5zICAu2mA0

    When it rains it pours.


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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:06 pm

    smelly wrote:Don’t know, straight on with baby mind.

    Goo goo

    Ga ga

    Makes perfect sense to me.

    But then I’m just a dumb goat.

    Ha!

    Goo goo

    Ga ga

    Straight on.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:09 pm

    P wrote:Dare to will and will to know, and you will become as great as, and even greater than, Apollonius, Flamel or Lully; and then know to keep silence, lest like Lucifer you fall, and the brilliance of your knowledge blind the eyes of the owls that are men...

    Scrying the de Sitter Spaces...

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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:32 pm

    We are all useful idiots in our own unique ways.

    The watcher is a tool for the watched and the watched a tool for the watcher.
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    Post by Foot Mann Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:04 pm

    As most of you know, Dan Smith has been furloughed from his role as Discloser. The President has been attempting to restore Dan to his former position, but there is the issue of a Wall that stands between Dan and Discloser. Fortunately Painter Doug has steeped up to the plate, expanding Dislosure to include Science, Technology, and Art. Were the decision mine, I would convert Doug's temporary appointment permanent,  but the President remains loyal to Dan and he is the Commander. I will keep you posted.

    p.s. This post was reviewed and approved by POJG.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:15 pm

    We don’t say........

    And whether or not the world is small is beside the point.....?

    Hmmm......... no kidding.......
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:50 pm

    Presidents, councils, appointments, The discloser......

    We have us the beginning of a new religion.

    It won't be long before Muppets wait to see if the smoke from the chimney is black or white when new elections are made by the president/council.

    Ya'll are turning into sheep and a sheep factory.

    That's okay, the wolves do not care how many the sheep may be.
    Wink

    Doug is the discloser to Doug and none else.

    Dan is the discloser to Dan and none else.

    Be cautious of any who claim to be a discloser for another.

    ...

    Why would Foot's post need to be approved and reviewed by someone else?

    Razz

    Where have all the goats gone?

    Goats playing sheep games are nothing but sheep.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:48 pm

    Aaron the Zen Muppet sure is smelly these dayz.

    My work here is done.

    Root node payload delivered.

    Muhahahahahaha

    He ain’t never gonna be free from the goatz now Wink

    Capricornz are the most showy and stubborn of the zodiac, ‘tiz true.

    Have to play our own game.
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:00 am

    Who......... me......... worry.........?

    If I were God, I think I’d want to make at least one mistake, just for the record.  

    But, in the BPW, is anyone allowed to make a mistake?  Maybe not.  

    Isn’t that just a little bit boring?  

    Not complaining, just saying........

    And, if you think I’m bashful, wait until you’ve seen Doug.  Well, you’ve already seen Doug.  Am I right?  

    Ron is right, though, Broadway is the way to go.

    Poor chicken little....... name in lights..... what’s a chicken to do?  

    ShangriLa, here we come.......


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    Post by Cuan Scott Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:56 am

    Sounds like the production team has all the ingredients for a great show!
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:45 am

    Scott,

    Production team......?  

    There’s an idea......... yes, Doug, you need a team.  Can I be on your team?  The Princess and me...... well, I think she’s already on the team.  Yeah....... Ron, too, if we have to have him....... donny.....?  

    I’m not sure what we could do with donny....... oh, wait, I know...... he could play at being the President.  We could give him orange hair.  

    And about that furlough........ haven’t I already had my retirement party...... several years ago, at the same time that Princess did the KWF photo shoot?

    I still haven’t received my gold watch....... I might just have to file a formal complaint.  

    Human Resources is falling down on the job.  


    1............

    I’m still on Cheetham’s Green Man........

    He’s complaining about the Incarnation........

    He’s blaming Jesus for the secularization of the West.  

    Ok, he has point.  Thoughtful folks often trace the rise of the scientific spirit to the Incarnation.  True, it’s not a simple cause and effect.  It is more complicated, but no less persuasive.  

    It has to do with the overturning of Plato’s stratification. Yes, Aristotle and Pythagoras had much to do with the rise of science...... I would give much credit to Plotinus, and gnosticism, in general.  


    Wait a minute....... I give lip service to the freedom of imagination, but 99% of life is a life of the mind.  Yes, Lincoln was shot by Booth, and that bare fact is pretty well engraved on Eternity...... even for idealists.  But...... that’s just the skeleton of history.  

    History books have been written...... much of history is already in black and white....... or is it?  

    We keep reinventing ourselves.... our lives...... each other.  

    Think of how much of history has to be reinvented, with each paradigm shift.  

    I’m trying to say something....... about how boring is the BPW.....

    Can we play it again, Sam?  There may be bare facts, maybe, but the fabric.... the tapestry of history is the meat of the story.  

    On the other side...... we replay... rewrite every narrative...... up to, and definitely including the Matanarrative.  How loose is the plot line?  Can the plot be spoiled?  

    How restrictive is the BPW hypothesis?  I think there must be a lot of wiggle room for the imagination.  How many remakes can we do of the Crucifiction, for instance?  How many paintings?  

    The Visitors likely have a video of the Crucifiction.  Will that be a plot spoiler?  Am I a plot spoiler?  Am I a party pooper?  That is one way of looking at it, but I certainly don’t think it’s the only way.  

    Or do they?  Videos exist...... think Akashic record.  

    Record keeping.........

    I’m sorry, but I’m not going to be intimidated by sex, lies or videotape....... that’s for pussies.  

    Can the New York Times be rewritten?  

    Hmmm.......

    Can fossil fuels be put back in the ground?  

    Call me crazy, but I do believe they will be...... but not quite like you might think.  


    3:10.........

    It has to do with the unbreaking of the circle..... the CTC.  

    Time is already beginning to ‘retrace’, as postmodernism morphs into premodernism.  That morphing has to do maintaining optimal continuity........ how the Omega morphs back into the Alpha. This an essential aspect of the teleology of the Telos.  

    In this time ‘reversal’ process, sapience is, necessarily, drastically curtailed, as the left behind, tree huggers go off the grid..... significantly less than a million of them.  

    What would the video look like?  

    That might be a moot question.  Imagination is given free reign.  

    Will there be reruns of I Love Lucy?  ...... of every Super Bowl?  

    Optimality comes by default.  Suboptimality requires effort.  

    Somehow, I doubt that the Akashic record is compromised of videos or newspapers.  

    Imagine a copy of the NYT in an archive...... or in many......

    Can we rewrite that history....... can we rewrite the Cloud?


    4:20(ft)...........

    What is my problem..........?

    My problem is that, if we’ve had all Eternity to fine tune the BPW, what is left for us, mortals, to do?

    I could suggest that all of Eternity is inside us. In our lives we are recapitulating that Eternity. Ok, but how do we play it again?

    And, more to the point, what does that mean, and why does that possibility seem important?

    Why do we watch highlights of sports, etc.....

    It is reported that on the other side..... other times, we take on the identity of the participants. We are not just onlookers...... we always have a vested interest.

    It’s not like watching reruns.

    History is not actually a spectator sport...... however much historians may attempt to objectify it.

    The Monad has a dog in every fight...... we are the dogs.



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    Post by painterdoug Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:16 pm

    Dan/ I can't get out over my skii's here . I have too much work to do on the creative end. Any production team will be assembled in the final stretch and you'll certainly be consulted as we spoke about . So carry on with your brand of disclosure as you see fit. I will share more when the time comes.

    and yes Aaron , Im the discloser for doug
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:59 pm

    We’re counting on you, Doug....... we’re pulling for you.  


    Of course, any good history is a narrative that attempts to pull you into the action. We do what we can to accommodate the author.  


    There is, in record keeping, a general problem for idealism/immaterialism......

    Records are recorded on/in material media.  Books and DVDs may be copied..... ad infinitum.  

    This presents an inverse logistics problem for the direct realist, which an idealist must be.  

    When I read a book, I am actually reading the mind of the author.  

    Recall that I don’t believe in telephony...... just telepathy.  

    I guess you could say that telephones are just actuators for mind portals...... and they are mostly voluntary.  Some actuators come with an elaborate infrastructure....... you might call it an entanglement.  

    The Earth is an actuator for the best possible Creation.  

    A grain of sand actuates the pearl oyster....... or a felicitous sin, you might say, activates the Monad.

    The oyster is the infrastructure for the grain of sand.



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    Post by U Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:26 pm

    That Andrew Basiago guy claims to have seen a video of the crucifixion.

    You know if Ron wants to go even more over the top with his presidential choices, he ought to put Andy in the White House, that would be fun!

    I think we can all come together and agree to put Bigfoot on the endangered species list, one of Andy's many groundbreaking policy platforms that he intends to run on.
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:25 pm

    Reptile,  

    Explaining anomalies is child’s play.  It’s normality that is difficult.  Normality is mind boggling.

    Before explaining normality, you would have to explain normativity, which is a foundational problem for philosophy.

    Associated with norms are conditions, as in conditionality...... and counterfactuals.

    Materialists are able to make no sense of counterfactuals, which, of course, are essential to any scientific inquiry.



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    Post by U Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:42 pm

    Normality is certainly a challenge for me. It's difficult to reconcile anomalies with normality, I think therein lies the problem.

    Reading up on normativity now, I can see why it would be major problem for philosophy, it seems rather subjective.
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:58 pm

    Reptile,

    We take normality for granted...... so does science, except when it comes to performing a particular experiment........ wherein laboratory conditions must be enforced...... anomalies must be suppressed.  

    And then we wonder why the scientific world appears so rigid.  

    Science cannot abide anomalies.  

    But what is an anomaly, if we can’t explain normality?  

    The alleged objectivity of science is built upon a philosophical quagmire. Ultimately, it is a castle in the sky. Materialism is an incredibly vulnerable system of beliefs.



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    Post by painterdoug Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:04 pm

    How bout some Moon fun.   USA on the left/  China on the right.    If we assume the gold foils ifs fairly accurate on both landers,  the surface is way off.     Just sayin.. 
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:14 pm

    Doug,

    And you’re suggesting........?  

    I’m not suggesting that science did not get us to the Moon and back.

    I’m not even suggesting that the Moon is made of green cheese.  

    Or even that there are any anomalies on the Moon.



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    Post by painterdoug Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:16 pm

    Dan / just having amusement with the never ending debate. Based on the surface color, I think China may have landed on Mars ! lol

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