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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
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    Post by @awestruckt Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:08 pm

    Synopsis please Aaron?
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:26 pm

    Let me think about it Nunia and I will reply later.
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:08 pm

    Nunia, I will respect their privacy. If they removed it then it must have been for a reason.

    Suffice it to say that maybe children can teach us more about the kingdom of heaven than adults can.

    Maybe sometimes we have to walk backwards to walk forwards.

    Perhaps trust and love is what we are born with, fear and greed is what we learn.

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    Post by SurfBum Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:47 pm

    There is too much certainty in words.

    Silence and the dark underworld are freedom.

    Words are limitation, but they can point to the limitless.

    Active imagination and intuition leads to the underworld.

    Who knew the Antichrist would be on our team all along..

    Meanwhile the devil hums a pleasant song...

    The flames burn all night long
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    Post by GrandCru Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:58 pm




    Ron's new name is

    Ron "King of Kitty City" Pandolfi
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    Post by GrandCru Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:18 pm

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    Post by GrandCru Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:23 pm



    Dan- so can you or any of your vast network of contacts shed light on TDs claims of a UFO/USO on the Atlantic Coast a few years ago, pinned/surrounded by US nuclear attack subs?

    Or are we only getting a shoulder shrug from this forum. That's negative points to the Pandolfi team.
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    Post by dan Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:11 pm

    Vast network of contacts.......?

    That’s not me.

    Trapping a USO......? I find that to be a highly unlikely scenario.
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    Post by GrandCru Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:01 pm



    Any scenario involving a USO is inherently unlikely.

    Lie= USO was pinned by nuclear attack subs

    More probable= USO played with a bunch of subs off the Atlantic coast for a week and we couldn't do a thing about it.
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    Post by dan Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:27 am

    Yes, more likely.......
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    Post by Pkisfake Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:19 am

    Thats NOT what happened. The USO was NEVER pinned ...as evidenced by it's escape. "Tictacs" (which are collecting biological samples) transfer PHYSICAL Data Pods to the larger "saucers" (that aggregate & store). Therefore, the saucers often linger/stage in deep water or mountain locations till they have enough "data" to transfer "off-world". Get it? Time & time again the ONI has determined a rendevous took place. When THEY choose they can turn on acoustic invisibility & depart & do.
    ONI has EXCELLENT VIDEOS FROM DIFFERENT YEARS of craft tilting sideways & THEN zipping THE OPPOSITE direction! (Proving focal gravity amplification is real)


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    Post by RunningBull Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:55 am

    @pkisfake: I'm trying to catch up with all of you, can you clarify what is a USO and what is ONI?
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    Post by Pkisfake Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:03 am

    Unidentified Submerged Object = THEM!

    ONI = Office of Naval Intelligence
    ( AAIODU) - That acronym will make sense later)
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    Post by Course Catalog Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:39 am

    Sounds like someone was doing the dishes or cleaning out a closet during that conference call with the Big Cheese. Or maybe they took the call from a bowling alley.

    Cheese sounds sincere but has the ability to talk for ten minutes without saying anything. This is a skill honed in board rooms across the world.

    I am confused by exactly what business he is in - cryptocurrency, internet portals, gyroscopes - and how any of them will help save the planet.

    Was Doug given a list of questions he couldn't ask or words to,avoid?

    Is this a successful honey pot or not?
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    Post by GrandCru Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:49 am

    Agreed, the background noise was very disruptive.

    Cheese needs more structure in these GoToMeetings imo, he's too all over the place. I feel like he's throwing too much stuff against the wall when given the floor.

    But when Doug was adamant about Cheese responding to points, he was excellent in his responses.
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    Post by RunningBull Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:55 am

    GrandCru wrote:Agreed, the background noise was very disruptive.

    Cheese needs more structure in these GoToMeetings imo, he's too all over the place. I feel like he's throwing too much stuff against the wall when given the floor.

    But when Doug was adamant about Cheese responding to points, he was excellent in his responses.

    Good points, but I wish they had more professional microphones. They're off traveling to the pope and receiving precious gems from powerful individuals but the fact they can't even afford a proper microphone detracts from any message they have to say. Or is that their point?
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    Post by GrandCru Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:52 pm

    RunningBull wrote:Good points, but I wish they had more professional microphones. They're off traveling to the pope and receiving precious gems from powerful individuals but the fact they can't even afford a proper microphone detracts from any message they have to say. Or is that their point?


    Ding ding ding, welcome to the rabbit hole Alice. Nothing makes sense here.
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    Post by Cuan Scott Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:39 pm

    Alice Alice who is Alice lol
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    Post by dan Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:33 am

    I am reading Cheetham’s Earth Angel in more detail.  Tom is a bit wont to immanentize the eschaton, as mystics often do.  smelly is no exception.  

    As a result, they dismiss/denigrate history, especially it’s modern component.  

    The result is a great imbalance.  The correction of the perceived imbalance will appear as an apocalypse.  

    Those of us accompanying the Eschaton can afford to walk softly.  The ‘presidential debate’ was an exercise in misdirection, rattling dishes to accompany the rattling cage, which, by design, was not mentioned.  

    Nor was the Council mentioned....... president of what, we might wonder......


    ....
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    Post by painterdoug Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:06 am

    dan

    are you saying,

    A pot and a pan created a scam
    Spaghetti and veal prevent reveal ?
    a story not told has us out in the cold
    to dine and to swallow a dishonest meal ?



    cause thats material for a new song for me!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:18 pm

    dan wrote:I am reading Cheetham’s Earth Angel in more detail.  Tom is a bit wont to immanentize the eschaton, as mystics often do.  smelly is no exception.  

    As a result, they dismiss/denigrate history, especially it’s modern component.  

    The result is a great imbalance.  The correction of the perceived imbalance will appear as an apocalypse.  

    Those of us accompanying the Eschaton can afford to walk softly.  The ‘presidential debate’ was an exercise in misdirection, rattling dishes to accompany the rattling cage, which, by design, was not mentioned.  

    Nor was the Council mentioned....... president of what, we might wonder......


    ....

    A mention from an ignorant muppet is fun.

    You don’t understand the Green Man book, please.

    Catch up slow poke.

    Do the work.

    You don’t know how to talk about history or how to finally participate.

    You are just a prop being lived by your unconscious.

    You try to speak of something you have no experience of.

    These lost muppets who listen to you Dan, don’t know any better nor have the curiosity about anything besides the illusions.

    You are all distracted.

    Those of us participating laugh heartily at you pretenders.

    Bahahaha

    My Daimon feels you are like every other rational windbag Dan.

    Blind and lame.

    Heal thyself muppet.

    You don’t have much time left.

    Try the Red Book you boring muppet wimp.

    Follow the prompts and you might realize nothing is needed but to Dance or you should just sit down and stay out of the way.

    The middle way can’t be found, only lived spontaneously.

    Anything else is a lie and an illusion.

    Beware the snakes, I see them seething all over you.

    **Muah**
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    Post by dan Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:17 pm

    smelly,

    You immanentizer, you..........

    Actually, the portals will do the heavy lifting of the immanetization.

    But smelly has his own portal, thank you very much. The rest of us may eat cake.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:48 pm

    You can all activate your own portals and as Jung says, its your only way.

    Let Khadir show you the Green Way, its not just some new age hippie path, it’s madness really, which is more like the way the real is Wink

    I have shared the wisdom or madness that came to me.

    That is all anyone can do, show others how to settle their conflict.

    The Devil eats monists as Scooby snacks.

    Yum.

    What is it you think you could possibly immanetize Dan?

    You are going to need to allow the Pole Star to transect you.

    Corbin did, even Tom did, Jung did, the smelly goat was born from the holes shot through this muppet and so will you Dan.
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    Post by painterdoug Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:13 pm

    smelly / were approaching your one year anniversary for joining the blog. 1/18

    you have 2278 posts! amazing!! have you moved to goalposts??
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:56 pm

    Smelly is my 2nd face on OMF, I had a lot of meaninglezz wordz spoken under garzparz as well before I had disagreementz with moronic muppetzzzzz.

    God iz our own mind, I’m with Jung, God iz dead and now man izzzzz disappearing, we have lost our organizing principle.

    The secret Christ iz a happening here with uzzzzz, I cant deny, but IT haz almost no relation to the Christian idol.  

    A UFO religion will not fill the void.

    Silly devicezzzz and saviorzzzz will only become idolzzzzz.

    It doesn’t matter if it’s trump or a janitor who seezzzzz.

    To go forward, we must go back, to go up, we must go down.

    To transcend we must integrate good and evil.

    Final direct participation with the irrational and rational iz what iz happening.

    Our opportunity iz to humble ourselvez and do the hard work of integrating evil and good under the umbrella of being.

    We bring the dead to life, where we are.

    We walked far away, now we return to where we started with awarenezzzzz.

    But most are still sleeping, most here on OMF too, just sleeping babez or lambz before the slaughter.

    The wordz and signz are not the meaning, what they point to izzzzz.

    I am not, nor any of you are the meaning, what we reflect happening through uz and the feeling of it inside of uzzzz izzzzz the meaning.

    There iz bird talk and then there izzzzz serpent poison. We are the people of the serpent who incubate a god.

    That’z a divine charge, whatever divine izzzzz, we can’t know.

    What if we are just the empty shell, so be it.

    It won’t and can’t make sense and we have to learn to accept that az ourselvezzzzz.

    Thiz izzzzz the gift of the serpent.

    So what will it be, authentically expose your darknezzzzz and light, or more liezzzzz, more idolatry?

    I’m sick of the liezzzzz myself, but they serve their purpose, as doez our blindnezz, az doezzzzz the lamenezz of the Godzzzzz.

    I am pretty zealoouzzzzz about burning these idolzzzzz anywhere they can be found. This is how to clear the temple and what it meanz to kill any God outside of you.

    It takezzzzz thiz kind of focuz and zealouzzzzz passion to self immolate the illusion.

    Have funzzzzz burning and dancing around the flamezzzzz of you.

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