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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
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    Post by U Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:50 pm

    https://youtu.be/ysIzPF3BfpQ
    https://youtu.be/48DN8QWVAJg
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    Post by cwallatruth Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:55 am

    Speaking of anthropomorphism

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science/talking-to-whales-180968698/
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    Post by GrandCru Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:16 pm



    Does Princess have connections with Donald Hutchins, self proclaimed wormhole discoverer?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:00 pm

    Be alone with the silence, the immaterial, alone with the alone.

    That’s the only way you will know what can’t be known and find the path that doesn’t exist.

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    Post by dan Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:17 pm

    Doug will be debating Joe tomorrow afternoon, on a topic, time and place to be announced.  

    Total time will be just fifteen minutes.  There will only be a pre selected audience.  

    Aliyah will be moderating.

    I apologize for the lack of details.
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    Post by @awestruckt Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:54 pm

    Invite please!
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    Post by GrandCru Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:31 pm

    Will also be available tomorrow if audience is needed. It's always a treat to hear Joe.

    And I've heard a rumor that Doug Auld is the MANNN. Great interview with Grant btw Doug.
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    Post by Cuan Scott Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:55 am

    Looking forward to hearing what ever you post Dan
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    Post by GrandCru Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:00 am



    I can feel a delay in the air. I say; LET THEM PLAY, LET THEM PLAY.

    I want to hear Doug and Joe debate!!!!
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    Post by painterdoug Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:18 pm

    hey thanks Grand Cru

    all are invited  to join in on this tonight.  I have no idea what to expect  /  doug

    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/456793125   6  to 7 pm    EST
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    Post by Cuan Scott Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:46 pm

    Thanks Doug

    Sounds great

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    Post by Foot Mann Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:54 pm

    The Great Debate will begin shortly (5 minutes):
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    Post by GrandCru Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:17 pm



    Excellent goto! Thanks Doug & Co.!

    I was speaking with a couple of people who don't believe in the phenomena and asked, what would be a good tip of the spear for disclosure?

    A great answer was a panel of living Presidents broadcasting a live presentation revealing that we're not alone. This would probably be the most effective bi-partisan message that could be sent. Airing shorter versions of this continuously, perhaps plugging Joe's website for more information, would follow for 6 months.
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    Post by Cuan Scott Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:26 pm

    Thanks Doug and all for a great GotoMeeting

    Wonderful to hear the direction being proposed for our collective future and wherever Carl Sagan may currently be, I think he would be pleased Smile

    As we are after all 'One Planet' Smile
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    Post by painterdoug Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:12 pm

    thanks grand cru and cuan scott/ hopefully a new wrinkle unveiled in some manner. joe said a good deal of things here . i was inspired
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    Post by Foot Mann Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:43 pm

    If you missed the Great Debate (Part 1): https://youtu.be/87-w9KsnTbM
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    Post by dan Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:42 am

    Now, sports fans, do I look like a spoil sport?

    Maybe...... just a little bit.  

    Presidential debate......?  Council president.  

    Council of what?  Council of Seven.  

    Joe would think of this as a Federation Council.  

    Where federation refers to the galactic federation or the galactic republic of Star Wars.  

    Others might think of this as MJ7, for instance.  

    It was my dad’s friend at Stanford, Ronald Bracewll, radio astronomer, who coined the phrase Galactic Club.  Other acquaintances of my dad were Larry R and Donald M(J12), who happened to have similar interests.  

    Me.......?  I’m more into hives and princesses, maybe.  


    2:30..........

    Charlie showed up at the time of my surprise visit to Joe’s. And the whole Council arrived shortly there after.



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    Post by painterdoug Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:00 am

    Dan, a real spoil sport! Twisted Evil
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    Post by @awestruckt Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:43 am

    Someone needs to invite Greer to the lake to chat w/ the big cheese...Greer spends 10 min talking about the events at the lake: https://youtu.be/t_EPLW2Ctvo (53:30). He says that the person who is in control of the project is “claiming to be the return of Christ for this galaxy”. Says it’s the scariest development he’s seen in his 25+ years of exposure to this stuff. Wondering if all his claims are summaries of what Dan/Ron says here or if other sources have been talking to him (he claims “senior officials within NSA and CIA”).

    The big cheese referenced his website: manyonecentral.org. Interesting materials there about the “transition”. I half expected to see a slide about getting a barcode on your wrist and forehead during the enrollment process.

    Either way, until you levitate a gizmo on CNN you’ll never break thru the chatter.
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    Post by dan Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:18 pm

    Nunia,

    I did not know that Cheeseman was claiming to be the Second Coming for the whole galaxy.  

    Steve and I are only claiming that with respect to the Earth.  

    A belief that I share with the Mormons is that.......
    humans can become divine like Jesus; he is our Elder Brother.
    I’m not sure if this disqualifies me from being a Trinitarian.  I would guess that there are many ways to skin the trinitarian cat.  

    But, the fact that Joe is claiming to be the Second Coming for the Milky Way seems to indicate that he may have a geocentric/Christocentric view of our galaxy, at least.  

    That the Earth could be God’s holodeck is something that none of us could rule out, as being crazy.  

    If portals are seen as being more significant than Ufos, then we aren’t that far from all being on the same page.  

    Was yesterday’s YouTube another step in that direction?  

    I would say so, in as much as it brought the concept of the Council down to Earth.  

    You may have noticed that there was no mention of Joe’s machine. Why not?  

    Ron claimed to have put out the directive to avoid that topic, although Doug was unaware.  

    Ron did say that Joe will be discussing his machine, in future discussions.  

    Here is my take on Joe’s machine........ version 1 is gyros.  Version 2 is silicon...... version 3 is carbon/organic.  

    Joe has been claiming that the three versions are sequential.  

    I’m saying that they are operating in parallel.  

    Furthermore, every portal is entangled with every other.  

    And Princess is the traffic cop for all portals that are related to Disclosure.  

    Did I mention that Kevin claims to be in contact with a news organization?  

    And what is the makeup of the Council?  

    I’m speculating that it is known persons of interest...... princess being a case in point.  And that not all members are aware of their possible dual status.  Aliyah may be the only female..... of the alleged seven.  

    There may be dna markers, generally involving the non-coding portion.  

    I further suspect that every human will ultimately qualify as being among the visitors.  We have met the Visitors, and they are us.  

    If you want to get biblical, all of us are descended from the Nephilim.

    So, yes, I am inclined to be a spoil sport.


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    Post by SurfBum Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:31 pm

    They post the debate video but not this one?



    They are holding out on us!

    Kashmir discloses more in 6 minutes than Joe and company in an hour.

    Hehe

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    Post by GrandCru Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:47 pm



    This was by far more entertaining than the debate. In a minefield full of wild kitties, Kashmir defuses them all.

    Two keen observations lol

    1) When Princess's friend asks if Princess is making sure Kashmir is being careful as Kashmir begins to pick up this wild cat found in a park in Peru, the Princess reminds Kashmir(who I'll assume is seven at the time) to "be careful, remember that's a wild cat". To most seven year olds I know, that means squat. It would also appear that it didn't mean much to Kashmir as well, although she was quite delicate regardless.

    2) Ron appears to have no reservations about who his daughter kisses. Gross jk.
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    Post by dan Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:55 pm

    Oh, my goodness....... someone call the fbi....... that is way above top secret.......
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:58 pm

    Hmmm...

    Video I posted removed quickly...

    Shrug

    Shams Tabrizi would have liked the video.
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    Post by dan Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:08 pm

    Phew........

    I was worried there, for a minute......

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