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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:24 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
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    Post by dan Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:50 pm

    Your solipsism beggars the imagination.


    Read between the lines..........??!!

    smelly, you can’t even read the handwriting on the wall........

    Stop the world, everyone....... smelly would like to get off.....

    ....
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:14 am

    As you sit around in your councils of war and move forward in your world moving mechanizations, know there will be a fat happy goat smilin in his garden at you all singin, smile bitches!

    I won the god damn cosmos and I’m livin my best life.

    Remember breathin is achievin and anything else is a distraction.

    It’s all a made up show.

    Join me here any time, but time doesn’t exist here.

    I talk to real dead people around a fire, it’s the damndest thing.

    And all the other muppets wanna talk about is lights in the sky or how much they love or hate trump, what a bunch of...

    Bahahahahaha

    How dumb can you all be?!

    Pretty god damn stupid from the gods’ view.

    I concur and you are still gonna die, maybe look forward to it.

    Amor Fati

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    Post by Foot Mann Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:34 am

    Enjoy the pause while you can, for soon Dan will return as the Man. Disclose he will in such a way, soon as he has something to say.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:47 am

    **BURP**

    He was getting warmer, but now he is ice cold.

    He is a persistent little chicken.

    I have faith in him.

    Not in what he says though, that’s rubbish Wink

    Bahahahahahaha
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    Post by U Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:25 am

    https://youtu.be/PWgvGjAhvIw
    Dan, What's cooler than being cool?

    https://youtu.be/nQrndDnW1UE
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    Post by Pkisfake Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:40 am

    Dan,
    If we are ONLY "timeless awareness", would that be the Smallest small world?

    Some think anthropically that we just happen to be in "order in great chaos"...but perhaps, it is all order...in a larger chaos that repeats fractally at scales that are strenous to percieve...
    Perhaps we are digital marrionettes - https://youtu.be/3L_isSGyVqU


    So Dan....Are we ANYTHING other than "timeless awareness"?? Can that awareness physically CONNECT to & manipulate mass/energy in this virtual interactive spacetime?
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:37 am

    Reptile,

    Yup, that’s pretty cool, alright......


    Word back from the front lines is that Doug is performing beyond expectations....... as the discloser of choice.  Doug’s new musical may become the sequel to Book of Mormon.  

    He is more supportive of the machine by the Lake than I have been able to be.  It’s not that the machine is not performing........ it’s just that I’m more partial to metaphysics than I am to mechanics..... sorry about that, Joe.  


    Pk,

    Timeless awareness..........?

    That is one way to look at ourselves.  

    But why all the chaos......?  There is a place for chaos, but it is mostly just fake.  Chaos doesn’t make much sense except on the fringes of the Metanarrative.  Beyond that fuzzy fringe lies Eternity.  

    Chaos is parasitic upon the illusion of time.  Timeless awareness sees through that illusion.  Time provides us with a playpen, or sorts.  We can play with the chaos, on the fringes of the Metanarrative.  God keeps us on a short leash, especially in the End Times.  

    We are free to use our imaginations....... any time of the year.

    Our imaginations keep us in touch with Eternity...... beyond space and time......



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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:06 pm

    The discloser of choice is We Persons, duh.

    No single mask is more of a discloser than any other.

    We can only disclose our self to ourselves.

    Selecting a single designated person for the title of discloser is nonsense.

    The Book of Mormon discloses no more than story of the Three Little Pigs.

    What is being disclosed and to whom is it being disclosed?

    Bwahaha

    The sound of rain needs no translation.

    Wink

    Muppets have missions to get somewhere....I wonder if they know where they are going and why?

    There is nowhere to go Muppets.

    You are stuck here now for eternity.

    Enjoy the ride.

    There is no other side of the river.

    You are already on the other side.



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    Post by painterdoug Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:23 pm

    Dan i have always told you, Im not that smart! lol perhaps the messenger needs more" kick the tires" in him. Being the son of a car dealer helps.

    Dan, always remember, its not a competition! but I know you know that.

    in the film Apocalypse Now, Colonel Kurtz ( Marlon Brando) says to Martin Sheen character

    " your just an errand boy sent from grocery clerks" maybe thats all we all are?
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:29 pm

    Aaron,

    The good Lord gave us tongues to talk and fingers to type, and the Internet to communicate.  

    He may also have given us the best possible world.  

    Very likely the best possible world is a small world with the best possible eternal ‘ending’.

    Do you find it offensive that some folks choose to celebrate the BPW?  

    Do you feel that we are polluting the public space with our speculations?  

    I agree, Aaron, Eternity is embedded in every appearance.

    Are we not allowed to talk about Eternity?

    Are we blaspheming Eternity?



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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:35 pm

    We are each of us the errand boy and the grocery clerk both at the same time.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:39 pm

    Aaron,

    And Mama don’t allow no messengers?

    God may have no angels?


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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:40 pm

    No Dan, I do not find anything offensive, only amusing.

    There is no ending. How can Now end?

    It's amusing to watch Muppets plan an ending though.

    Bwahahaha

    Have fun with that. Wink
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:41 pm

    We all carry the same message Dan.

    All are angels and demons equally.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:44 pm

    We all carry the same message..........?  

    Of course, we do.  

    And God gives us different means for sharing........ does she not?

    And, yes, Eternity is eternal..... it will not end.

    The illusion of time is capable of transformation.

    Hallelujah......!

    Come and celebrate with us the illusion of time........ and its many glorious facets.


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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:51 pm

    I am celebrating with every breath.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:05 pm

    There we go.......

    And we all breathing the same air........ even while we sing different songs.  

    There may, however, Aaron, be the best possible Metanarrative.

    If there is, then we can share the searching.  

    You may already have discovered the best possible Metanarrative....... and you would like to keep it private.  

    I’m sorry, then Aaron, if I’m invading your privacy.  

    Please forgive me.......


    Doug,

    Ok, it’s good to know that I’m failing in the Kick the Tires Department.

    But, hey, if that’s your department, I’m very happy to leave it to you.

    And as I keep telling Ron, I’ve only ever been a one trick pony.

    My only trick is blogging....... so I think I definitely should keep working on that one trick, thank you very much.......


    ....


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:08 pm

    You are one hella confused muppet Dan.

    I love ya!

    Smile bitches!
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:19 pm

    smelly,

    That is very high praise for those of us, consigned to Muppetdom.  

    Hallelujah....... muppeteers.....!!

    Praise the smelly.......!!
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:31 pm

    I'm happy for Doug and his creative projects.

    Beware of lables, titles, and idols.

    Only I can disclose to me.

    Doug is one small part of me.

    Lables, titles and idols = limitations.
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    Post by painterdoug Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:53 pm

    all us, fractals of each other! ugh ohh, the hippie is coming out in me! lol

    ok back to work on my musical.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:01 pm

    Aaron is a zen muppet.

    Bahahahahahaha

    Well Dan, in all my studies and experiences and awareness of how highly developed a human can become, it is love that is the greatest skill of the warrior.

    When you have no reason to fear the muppet, you come to love the muppet.

    Cause really, we are made with all these emotions and thoughts and this body and this world and then we have to figure it all out and live and eat.

    And we have these crazy selfish compulsions and some of us are psychopaths. Schizophenia is a side effect of this degradation.

    We are cold and lonely and mentally damaged, how fun Wink

    Then we have invisible gods and forces and all this history?!

    As Aaron says, we are all part of each other in the end.

    I know Dan that most suffer mental illness in our postmodern world.

    Partisanship is mental illness. Identity politics is mental illness. Missions are mental illness.

    So you have to love all of it.

    You really shouldn’t let smelly get you going, just your ego fuckin wid ya, but the goofy goat makes a good point now and then.


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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:02 pm

    I hoard nothing Dan. I spontaneously point fingers at the moon exactly when necessary, no more no less.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:07 pm

    The show is always rollin
    Fools always be showin
    That few are actually knowin
    How lucky we are to be blowin
    In the wind always flowin
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:27 pm

    We all know what we need to know when we need to know it.

    Entanglement points us to ourselves.

    We all blow in the wind together as one entangled mess.

    Whee!

    Smile




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