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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

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The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by BewilderedBird Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:44 pm

First topic message reminder :

“Nature’s first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.”

—Robert Frost - “Nothing Gold Can Stay”


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Post by BewilderedBird Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:33 pm

...keep it simple.

Avoid being mystified and cults of personality as your ancient fathers did.

Reality has stirred you to life.

Do you know the misty gates?

You will never be satisfied again with only your subjective experience.

You know best. - Earth

You know least. - Water

You know worst. - Fire

You know highest. - Wind

Remember...

"He who knows and does not know that he knows: he is asleep. Let him become one, whole. Let him be awakened.

He who has known but does not know: let him see once more the beginning of all.

He who does not wish to know, and yet says that he needs to know: let him be guided to safety and to light.

He who does not know, and knows that he does not know: let him, through this knowledge, know.”
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Post by BewilderedBird Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:57 pm

The light of pure being or knowing.

I come as a lamb, but I have a wolf inside me also.

And so it is with human beings.

Can the two lay together?

Thinking and knowing are two very different states of consciousness.

Knowing is like walking on a high wire.

You have the theory in your mind, but to be on the wire is quite another thing.

The entrance to the misty gates requires attention and focused will to cross the abyss.

Who are the mad fools when asked if they would die for a glimpse of the pure light gladly say YES?!

Those are the mad ones.

Those are the ones for me.

Nothing in this life of any quality comes easy.

Only one with quality can appreciate quality.

Holding quality does not imbue you with such.

There is no substitute for the real thing.

Lost of pretender sweeteners, but nothing like the pure light of knowing.

Knowing is simply realizing being.

Only when you are nothing do you see the misty gates.

I can’t give one .00000001 percent of my self to another.

What I have I have.

And no one can give anything to me.

Quite a situation.

What does one do but say YES dying is worth a glimpse.
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:03 am

Self-liberation has become our main aim in post modern times rather than the integration of the inner life with the needs of the community.

The ufo shit I see is all imaginal.

Even the Nimitz encounter.

We have free will over our attention.

What does the imaginal bring to us, ask of us?

To pay attention.

To be a good listener.

A good watcher.

To act with courage.

This connects us to ourselves.

When you own your crap, you do not transcend, you integrate with what is.

And what is is communicating with us.

Reality does not knock.

It can only be directly perceived.

It is an intimate interaction.

The knower and the known.

The knower knowing the knower.

What I speak of is death before death.

Where the active and passive meet.

If yuh are only active, death will flood you.

Passivity terrifies us until it doesn’t.

Memento Mori 💀
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Post by BewilderedBird Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:26 pm

Many distractions...

Know Thyself

Feel it

Being
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Post by BewilderedBird Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:14 pm

"You must live for another, to live for yourself."

One door closes...

Another opens...
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Post by BewilderedBird Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:00 am

There is no chance for me
I am born of fear of no-self
Just a caricature
There is no one to know here
There is nothing to accept
There is nothing to do
There are of course no words
The meaning is the happening
There is no knower of my self
My self is just a series of thoughts
Here today gone tomorrow
I’ve almost talked myself away
Just being this is all of it
To see both sides of the mirror
Is comforting in a way
Though what is comforted
The illusion contains itself
The self illusion desires to know
Disclosure is another 
False way of knowing
A trap and an impossible reality
Muppet duality
This life is exactly as it seems 
Nothing right or wrong 
Accept what the illusion thinks
About this
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Post by BewilderedBird Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:39 pm

From the end of Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus...

“My propositions are elucidatory in this way: he who understands me finally recognizes them as senseless, when he has climbed out through them, on them, over them. (He must so to speak throw away the ladder, after he has climbed up on it.) He must surmount these propositions; then he sees the world rightly. Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must remain silent.“

Once you have made your way up the mountain.

Shit this guy Wittgenstein, half mad, but authentic it feels to me.

You can’t just be told, sometimes and to go over the rainbow, you have to be shown.

I think we show ourselves we are our world.

I see many correlations with Goethe.

They had this love of being in the world.

Though Wittgenstein suffered personally much, Goethe had the best of the best.

Goethe was like Pan would have been as a man.

A god-man.

Gotta be careful around those types.

Both of these dudes had the ability to appreciate the experiences that were not analyzable.

They were ethical and had to go beyond morality.

Genuinely authentic or deluded?

I’m like nutty ufo nutty nut, I can’t take back breaking into the present or realizing I am my world.

I saw something and said something, babbling mostly.

Now seeing a light in the sky is a little different than seeing the lights inside yourself.

Surely, there is a correlation.

You are shown too much and your ego tears and tatters like a flag in the wind.

Shit shows itself to you and you can’t turn away.

You wrestle with it maybe.

You become obsessed with the material aspects of life maybe, the nuts and bolts types.

And then you meet nuts like Wittgenstein, and you are like god damn it, did we fall in the same hole?

Do all the holes lead to the same place?

Well, we don’t get an answer.

How bout that.

Meaning?

You tell me.
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Post by BewilderedBird Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:41 pm

Remember yourself!

REMEMBER

I am thankful for the long journey to now.

I appreciate it.

I appreciate the suffering and the hardness of life.

I can say my death does not trouble me.

But fear comes and goes still.

It never leaves.

I offer it a drink now and then and try to reason with it.

But it just won’t listen.

It is fear and fear is all it can be.

Take that name away and what is it?

A black whirlwind.

Bolshevism I am convinced is the religion of hell.

I don’t believe in hell.

I recently read how Germany stoked the Russian civil war and used it to great effect.

The same game is being played on America by itself.

You reap what you sew.

The law of fate.

The future is made now.

One must strengthen their minds against fallacy and nonsense.

Philosophy is a way of remembering yourself in uncertainty.

Involuntary action is filled with chaos.

You can sharpen the mind into a potent blade.

It will kill.

Philosophy is something you do, you have to explore how you can be misled and have been.

You have to face your fear of death.

I know in my bones to mislead others is a great mistake.

We find no one though can mislead us, we can only mislead ourselves.

So I have only fooled myself.
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:54 pm

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200817-the-batman-effect-how-having-an-alter-ego-empowers-you
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Post by BewilderedBird Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:35 pm

Total Eclipse of the Sun...is happening

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“Two fishes swimming in the sea not more lawless than we.”

Images in response to Walt Whitman’s Leaves of Grass by Margaret C. Cook, 1913.

“Drowning people
Sometimes die
Fighting their rescuers.”

And sometimes kill the rescuer.

James Baldwin’s asserts that “a society must assume that it is stable, but the artist must know, and he must let us know, that there is nothing stable under heaven,” Butler lets us know that drowning people do not choose their leaders wisely:

When apparent stability disintegrates,
As it must —
God is Change —
People tend to give in
To fear and depression,
To need and greed.
When no influence is strong enough
To unify people
They divide.
They struggle,
One against one,
Group against group,
For survival, position, power.
They remember old hates and generate new ones,
They create chaos and nurture it.
They kill and kill and kill,
Until they are exhausted and destroyed,
Until they are conquered by outside forces,
Or until one of them becomes
A leader
Most will follow,
Or a tyrant
Most fear.

Again and again, Butler cautions against the blindness of choosing from a state of heightened emotion — the very blindness which political propaganda is aimed at blinkering over the eyes of the electorate with the constant stirring of our most amphibian fears:

“When vision fails
Direction is lost.

When direction is lost
Purpose may be forgotten.

When purpose is forgotten
Emotion rules alone.

When emotion rules alone,
Destruction… destruction.”

This is a total eclipse of the Sun.

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Post by BewilderedBird Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:48 am

I accuse myself of reading more into life than there is. The ritualized life is an act of focus. We focus our energy around rituals. It would be best to be clear in my language. It would be best to be as clear as I can be now.

Was Wittgenstein a mystic?

Wittgenstein was not what one would call a 'mystic.' He instead considered the existence of god to be non-evident. A mystic is someone who claims to have an ineffable experience that cannot be adequately expressed with language. For Wittgenstein, words are all we have and he tried his best to make them work well for us.

Wittgenstein believed that all words refer to things in the world and that is why we can say one thing and another thing. However, if there were no general agreement on how to use words, or what words mean, then it would be impossible for us to communicate with each other.

According to Wittgenstein, sometimes things are clear and other times they are not. There is no way around this. In fact, most of human life is nothing but uncertainty and confusion.

Of course, Wittgenstein goes beyond the simple claim that there is no certainty and investigates what it means to make an assertion. He has a lot to say about how we can use language in ways that are clear or unclear.

Wittgenstein was not interested in mystical experiences. What he wanted to know is how we can use language in a way that does justice to our life. Human life, for Wittgenstein, is full of complications and confusions.

What is it like to think that the world as you perceive it may not even exist? It sounds crazy, but maybe this thought should be entertained. What if I told you that for all your life, you lived in a simulated reality and what seems like the real world around us is really just made up by frames 🖼 strung together appearing to move.

Who cares?!

You ain’t gettin out of here alive.

The greatest secret of all, the one that dwarfs all others is death. It holds us in its grip and will not let go. One day we are young and full of hope, but then our world comes crashing down when we realize how frail our bodies really are.

The idea of death is a secret that has been hidden from us by our own imaginations. In the face of such an unknowable concept, we retreat into platitudes and comforting falsehoods.

We tell ourselves that we are immortal, and thus avoid the reality of our mortality. Some people say 'I will live forever in my children' or they believe in a god which is forever.

If you search the world, there are many ways for people to deny death. But it is still a secret. Denial does not change reality.
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:10 am

When you find your Voice, letting it go silent is very difficult, just habit I guess.
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Post by U Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:00 am

"WHO IS IT THAT GUIDES
BE CAREFUL TO YIELD YOUR MIGHT
THE OTHER MIND RULES"







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Post by BewilderedBird Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:54 pm

The other is here, yes.

El Chivo is just a habit.

A way of being.

I feel...like a distant memory no longer forgotten.

The one who put its finger to my lips and made that crease.

Shhhhhhhh

It was me, looking in the mirror.

I seem to have barged in on my own party and made an ass of myself.

Yes, it is just like I crashed my own party, drunk and reveling.

Now I am sitting in this seat.

I feel myself squirming under gaze.

“How mischievous you have been little goat.”

Tell me el chivo, what have you learned?!

Why do we meet here in fantasyland?!

Report!

...

Well...I chewed my grass and smelled the air and immediately said, all this seems alright to me.

In fact, it is just right, the best it could be of all possible worlds.

I don’t agree with most people about how to live life or die. So I am an agitator an outsider and scapegoat for the muppets. This is my current role in life. I am in betweener and thus may know all things. But little goats begin to wonder about wondering. Thinking about thinking instead of being here, wild and free. I agitated smelly, as I agitate it all. I take it as it comes, not how I want it to be. Look at the heart of any argument and you find a child wanting mommy and daddy.

I seem to be alive in a world of unconscious Zombies 🧟‍�🧟‍� arguing about being a Zombie and how the Zombie world should be. I don’t care what anyone believes or doesn’t. I think we are all scared and denying our deaths. I admire people honest about this and not lying to themselves.

The ones who have faced it and stopped living in their imagined world, I call friends. For the others who don’t share my humor about it or view of life, we can get along even if we don’t agree. Acceptance is like water. You can’t stand against it. It just washes all over you eventually.

Yes, I gave up the dream of being a goat, now I am here goating in the flowers 🌺 hardly able to remember what all the fuss was about and I didn’t go anywhere or learn anything accept to stop resisting what is here.

Look around
What a wonder
Here we spinny spin spin
Love what you are
Love what you have
I don’t really know what love is
Rest in that
That’s what loving all of it means

To all those still fighting the good fight, I salute you! Make love, not war, love is war until it isn’t. Let’s give peace ✌ a chance.

I am home, finally. I am at rest my friends and it is a good thing.

The best of things.

No answers or books or wisdom or teachers or gods or devils can I offer as cause of pain and joy, just this.

Just this now happening, that’s all I know.

...

And then the sky opened and smelly went on through...to the other side.

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Post by BewilderedBird Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:50 pm

“Vain is the word of that philosopher which does not heal any suffering of man." -- Epicurus

Our OMF rhetoric is and never was nor will be Philosophy, but you do need Philosophy to know your best self. The Philosophy that comes from you, the one lived when no one is looking, virtue/quality is its gift.

Philosophy, as it is practiced today, is abstract, theoretical, and detached from life, just one academic subject among others. In the Greco-Roman world, it was something quite different. Philosophy was a way of life. Not merely a subject of study, philosophy was considered an art of living, a practice aimed at relieving suffering and shaping and remaking the self according to an ideal of wisdom;

“Such is the lesson of ancient philosophy: an invitation to each human being to transform himself. Philosophy is a conversion, a transformation of one's way of being and living, and a quest for wisdom.” . This process leads to "spiritual exercises" that brings about self-transformation and makes philosophy a way of life.

“unless the soul is cured, which cannot be done without philosophy, there will be no end to our miseries.” -- Cicero

Lucretius argued that since we do not fear our non-existence before birth we should not fear our non-existence after death.  

Or in the vivid language of Seneca: “Would you not think him an utter fool who wept because he was not alive a thousand years ago?  And is he not just as much of a fool who weeps because he will not be alive a thousand years from now?  It is all the same; you will not be, and you were not.”

A lived philosophy turns you wholly back into your life, nothing else is our concern.

What does any muppet care about the future?

What future?

We have none.  

It is some trick that we appear and disappear.

The rest is our imagination.

Trump is a great threat to you, vote him out.

Deal with what is happening, otherwise, you are completely distracted.

This is what maybe the Princess was showing the Chick.

Who knows, not my game.

When one views life from above, they are looking on life from death, as the gods do.

When we view life like this, we are identifying with the nameless.

This is really no escape, but allows one to identify with the universal showing us not to take things too personally.

The practice of spiritual exercises can still be meaningful in the modern age. You do not need to become a Hindu to practice Hatha Yoga. Still, something has been lost; the “highest point the self can attain is…[where] one has the impression of losing oneself in something that totally overcomes one.”

For us moderns, the world is neither a creation of God nor divine but purposeless and without meaning. As the physicist and Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg lamented, “The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it also seems pointless.”

Nietzsche spins a fable that captures the modern condition. “In some remote corner of the universe…there once was a star on which clever animals invented knowledge. That was the highest and most mendacious minute of "world history"—yet only a minute. After nature had drawn a few breaths the star grew cold, and the clever animals had to die.'

"It's important not to give a shit." --George Carlin
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:53 pm

“Nothing vast enters the life of mortals without a curse.” —Sophocles
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:40 pm

“In social science, agency is defined as the capacity of individuals to act independently and to make their own free choices. By contrast, structure are those factors of influence (such as social class, religion, gender, ethnicity, ability, customs, etc.) that determine or limit an agent and their decisions.”

You think most have free will?

That you do?

Searching for something that can never be found?

That itch, you can never scratch.

I cannot limit my expression.

It is not that I am clear about what I express.

But I can’t dispel it unless I express it, it is the damndest thing.

I have no answers at all, which somehow forms a key.

But it takes a total stripping of belief.

Which threatens the mask of the mind.

This is a negative religion.

Nirvana means to blow up.

No one speaking has let themselves blow up.

There is no more speaking after that.

Don’t you know the internet has captured us all and ensnared us.

Quite a pickle, like a butterfly net capturing all the butterflies.

I watched the spell unfold live.

Quite a trick.

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Post by BewilderedBird Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:30 pm

Life is a practice, not about beliefs at all.

Consciousness is a glimpse into.
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Post by BewilderedBird Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:08 pm

Anyone telling you what is going to happen is deluded or lying.

You want to predict the future, prove it, or you are just guessing.

Anyone demanding things happen the way they want is just a typical muppet, no clue about how life works.

Anyone giving you their opinion and stating so, has some clue about life and mind.

The future?

The religious extremists seem mostly homicidal.

Not my concern.

I'm going to worry about things?

Na.

It doesn't matter what happens, but for you, it matters what you do.

You are going to die, act accordingly.

I know it is the end of my thinking, but I am very curious about it.
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Post by BewilderedBird Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:10 pm

It is a hell of a lot of fun to just talk to yourself.

It is actually wonderful.

Bliss
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Post by BewilderedBird Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:59 pm

So I was reading Voltaire and there is a funny story in Candide.

The point of the whole book was what Voltaire learned from a Turk. The Turk didn’t care about world politics, he just was selling his food at the market. The most famous line in Voltaire's ''Candide'' is the final one:

“We must cultivate our garden.''

That is Candide's response to the philosopher Pangloss, who tries again and again to prove that we live in the best of all possible worlds, no matter what disasters befall us.

Who does Pangloss sound like?

Bahahahaha, holy shit, it’s the chick and his BPW! It’s like the tarot. It’s all been written apparently in some form.

Candide's most important lesson comes from a Turk who sends his fruit to be sold in Constantinople. ''Work,'' the Turk says, ''keeps us from three great evils: boredom, vice and need.'' But even this is too much explanation. As the garden takes on substance, it grows in imagination, too. It wakes me up at first light, when the air is still cool. I go out with a basket of seeds and a small hand-hoe, and nothing seems more important.

Son of a bitch, the chic is Pangloss?!?

We spoke in a book.

And I am a fool, but after my journey to/from something/nothing, it showed me one thing, invest in the ground provided. Give yourself to it and forget all else.

A metaphor, where is the good ground?

You know.

That seems to be the advice of the sage as well.

Shrug, I dunno.

If I saw a point to all this, I’d laugh harder.

Just cultivating your little plot though is more than enough.

Why couldn’t I see that as a young man?

Chic would say in the BPW, the best thing happens at the best time.

Well, I’ve disproven the BPW!

It isn’t the BPW!

You are your best in this world.

Do you what that?!

YOU ARE YOUR BEST HERE

As if Voltaire wrote my script.

I guess smelly goat showed me the way to my garden.

It was already growing long before I found it.

Why the hide and seek?

Because it would have meant nothing to me otherwise.

It only means something now, I shouldn’t wait.

I love the work.

It provides.

We abide in shade.

I have seeds to cultivate.

Here be a portal.

I beat him.

I saw through the BPW.

And I gained the world.

Do your work well, don’t have need, or fall into vice or worse, die of boredom.

What are you gonna do if it all goes to hell?!

Your garden is discovered as much as cultivated.

To learn to tend to life and oneself seemed a big part of this dream.

It seems to come up again and again.

Do your work well.

Provide for yourself from what you were given.

It will be no better anywhere else until we cultivate our garden.

Mars won’t save you.

Where you are is where you can be your best.

Disclosure is such a con.

Makes me want to puke.

I do vomit it out of me.

Every last bit of it.

A bitter lie.

I dont really care about the game of kings and queens.

If I gained it all, I’d just give it all away.

That’s why I won the chocolate factory.

The dudes magic carpet is the same as charlie’s glass elevator.
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Post by BewilderedBird Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:55 pm

There are these moments you just can’t explain away.

Moments of synchronicity, where all the tumblers click.

I can see most clearly after a hard days work.

And let me tell you, the universe is making me work.

Like, let up already.

Can’t get Candide out of my mind.

It’s like my life is a story.

It is.

"I have seen the worst," Candide replied. "But a wise man, who since has had the misfortune to be hanged, taught me that all is marvelously well; these are but the shadows on a beautiful picture."
"Your hanged man mocked the world," said Martin. "The shadows are horrible blots."

So what is Martin’s philosophy, exactly? Martin reveals that he is a Manichaeist. Basically, Martin believes that God has abandoned the world, which is now consumed by evil and suffering. He has great contempt for the Optimist viewpoint that evil is only an illusion, and merely "shadows on a beautiful picture."

I have great contempt for those espousing a personal god with a gauranteed heaven that only has ever seem to me a hell.

That belief alone made life hell on earth for me.

I could have been bitter, but I found the joy of hard work.

The lesson is to watch out for optimist BPW philosophers.

Challenge them.

Check them.

Bring their noses back to the smelly shit of life.

Although Martin’s philosophy is as extreme as Pangloss’s (and is sometimes flawed), his worldview has a much stronger empirical basis in the context of the novel. This is a fancy way of saying that, given all the awful things that happen in the book, Martin’s argument is a lot stronger than Candide’s.

Martin is also much less absorbed in philosophy than Pangloss and Candide, perhaps because of the hopelessness dictated by his worldview. He comments willingly in response to Candide’s probes, but doesn't pause to philosophize in the midst of crisis. Basically, he’s a reality check to Candide’s philosophical daydreaming.

Don’t listen to philosophizing chickens.

Bahahahahahaha

Voltaire was like, Leibniz should shut up and live doing some honest work.

Exquisitely sweet irony.

It’s dripping from the walls of the hive.

One needs purpose.

One you can live.

It’s too easy to get caught in the storm of the world.

Avoid it.

Candide says, “We must cultivate our garden.” So, they stop sitting around and decide to work together by performing various tasks. They are satisfied at last.

Many of us aspire to a day when we can finally stop working. We get tired of the everyday difficulties and hardships. But when we stop, we also lose our sense of purpose.

Candide shows the danger of philosophizing without doing. It’s easy to get caught up in things outside our control. When we think about what other people are doing or the latest gossip, we lose sight of how to improve our own situation.

Tend to your own garden instead.

Voltaire was exiled a long time for his seditious words against authorita and returned rich from toiling in the world.

Of course he is a hero of mine and he is part of my smelly act:

He was no quiet farmer.

A troublemaker.

A check against bullshit.

Don’t be bitter, don’t live in a dream, do for yourself, share what you have.

People too easily become dependent.

So we must toil and work hard or live on the labor of others.

I just know that working as the best slave I can be is a win.

It’s Sisyphus asking for more.

El Dorado is no city of gold.

It’s a trap.

Voltaire was like a modern day MIT genius card counter.

That’s how he got rich.

Gaming the lottery.

He’s a trip.

He became a watchmaker to Kings and Queens in the end.

I’m sure he had a lovely garden.

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