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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:30 am

    Who owns this place? WTF are you doing?

    Grant Cameron (others) have stated without any loss of conviction that there are CIA operatives among us/you/forum. I am absolutely unsure that this is the case. Take the individual surreptitiously lol known as Foot Mann.

    I PM the Foot Mann and found that his response to a pseudo-Project Stargate employee was less than accurate. No biggie, even the CIA has bad days.

    Ok, I'm fine now until I remember that Grant Cameron insists that posts from Foot Mann/PuppetSmith - that don't exist, are deleted and he never links to them - if you can decrypt them, um ok, are tantalizing tidbits of (hush) ET, er, UAP disclosure.

    Important stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah!

    This forum is dead as freshly boated fish, flopping around, doing not much of anything. And this is supposed to be the Centre for UAP, et, sorry, Disclosure?

    If there is no audience, there is no psyop. If there is no coherent commo between psyopsers lol and psyopsees, there is no psyop.

    None. Nada. Zippo.

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    Post by dan Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:34 am

    AC,

    Now, now...... cool your jets, big guy.

    Pull up a log, and join while we lie and spit, around the campfire........
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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:32 pm

    Alchemical Coincidence wrote:Who owns this place? WTF are you doing?

    Grant Cameron (others) have stated without any loss of conviction that there are CIA operatives among us/you/forum. I am absolutely unsure that this is the case. Take the individual surreptitiously lol known as Foot Mann.

    I PM the Foot Mann and found that his response to a pseudo-Project Stargate employee was less than accurate. No biggie, even the CIA has bad days.

    Ok, I'm fine now until I remember that Grant Cameron insists that posts from Foot Mann/PuppetSmith - that don't exist, are deleted and he never links to them - if you can decrypt them, um ok, are tantalizing tidbits of (hush) ET, er, UAP disclosure.

    Important stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah!

    This forum is dead as freshly boated fish, flopping around, doing not much of anything. And this is supposed to be the Centre for UAP, et, sorry, Disclosure?

    If there is no audience, there is no psyop. If there is no coherent commo between psyopsers lol and psyopsees, there is no psyop.

    None. Nada. Zippo.

    I was skipping
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    Moons ago and tripped
    into a python nest.  
    I took around my 12"
    knife and sliced his fucking head off.

    Code. lol


    Who owns this place?  Technically speaking I do.  What's the malfunction?  I'm Liberty Community v1.0 - Montana Redoubt.

    The vast majority of the members here are trusted with civil discourse and do not require a chaperone sitting over their head.  

    Since this is discourse, truth, perspective, and accuracy is relative to the speaker, position, knowledge base, and experience.  You may participate, lurk, or wander elsewhere at your discretion.

    If you need immediate attention you may speak with Dan Smith who is the highest ranking daily resident here.  If you need someone else you may contact me at "cyrellys" at gmail.com  put the email addy together properly.

    >> all good Dan? Yell if you need me.

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    Post by dan Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:02 pm

    Thank you, Cy. You are our hostess with the mostest.

    Happy Thanksgiving to you, your family and all our family here at our OMF outpost.

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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:06 pm

    dan wrote:Thank you, Cy.  You are our hostess with the mostest.  

    Happy Thanksgiving to you, your family and all our family here at our OMF outpost.


    Thank you Dan!  You are most welcome too.  

    Happy Thanksgiving to you as well and your family; and everyone else here too!  May the holiday be good to you and yours.


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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:46 am

    Blah blah blah how can you eat Thanksgiving when you have a mouth full of Smith, Psi? That's all that is left here, even the so-called Foot Mann Gondola or whothefukever has flown the OMF coup!

    Just you and him giving each other hand Stevens.
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    Post by cwallatruth Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:40 pm

    "Limited by words
    A restriction by angels
    To force us inside"
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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:33 pm

    cwallatruth wrote:"Limited by words
    A restriction by angels
    To force us inside"
    Thanks.

    Typical of the bullshit that attempts to surround this place with 'mystery'. lol Just because you've wandered into a quagmire of inanities, irrelevancies, and stupidities doesn't mean I have to follow you in.

    As one addicted to reality I would rather wait and see how it actually
    plays out than rely on opinions, informed or otherwise, which range all
    over the map.

    If this is 'soft, trickling disclosure', dan(ny) and Foot MannFetish are two idiots clicking their heels together and wishing something were true. Liars who would rather play kiddy games than face facts.

    This forum is about as voluminous of a public outlet as an ant's ass is to a plugged up turd.

    NB: dan(ny) I screenshot everything I post.

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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:50 pm

    Grant Cameron is openly refuting the ridiculous mantra that real, really really CIA agents, and their sock danpuppets...wait for it...are really, real intelligence assets. Really.

    I've learned that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon and all the less important ones just never go away. Expect Camaroon Grant Cameron to quickly retract. The only thing any one knows of you, is what you say on the internet.

    You determine exactly what image you present to the world.

    There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned into their tiny little minds.

    Grant Cameroon has entered the latter.
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    Post by cwallatruth Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:58 pm

    I'm but a muppet like you. Addicted to the same (probably) reality that you are. I've just found that haikus allow me to express something inside me that is normally inexpressible.

    I was writing this one while you posted your latest one:

    "Avoidable death
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    By staying asleep"
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    Post by Earthling Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:59 am

    This seems like a horrible thread with one accusation and many complaints. Frankly, a waste of space, besides the holiday greetings. That I will join in on.

    Happy Thanksgiving, and thanks for giving what you all have to offer here, Dan, Cyrellys, Footman, and others.

    I often put my foot in my mouth and then my feet become swollen, so I keep to myself most the time to avoid others to have to witness these events.But I am still behind the curtains, following others thoughts.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:12 pm

    No space is ever wasted.
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    Post by The One Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:38 pm

    Who wants to start? Let's Cut The Sh*t Out 180c7810
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    Post by The One Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:43 pm

    I believe Hal was on a flight someplace. That’s what Russell said right before the show at the end.
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    Post by U Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:29 am

    You made your posts on my Grandmother's birthday, she's been dead for almost a decade and in her last days she would mention seeing me as a young child playing and smiling at her even though I wasn't a child anymore. When my Aunt and Uncle who took good care of her found her passed on in her bed, she had a smile on her face. Afterword an image of a beautiful tropical island was painted on a wall in her room.

    I loved my Grandmother very much.

    Alright, I'll go.

    Hello my name's U and I'm an alcho....

    Lolololol, no, kidding of course.

    Hello Neo, you've come to ask the architect WHY, here at the one and only OMF!?!?!?!?

    The answer is because they can, of course they can. Hal and his ilk are technosorcerers of a sort. Did you know Hal holds probably one of the oldest security clearances in the country?

    What do you expect to achieve now that you've arrived here? Will the big man Ol Ronny P come running and say "I'm very sorry the breakaway civilization took advantage of you, may I get you a coffee or a tea?" Or will Hal Puthoff and Russell Targ give you a written apology for the Lovecraftian shit they put those kids through, and tell us what's the big spoiler, surprise, surprise, you were one of those kids *GASP* imagine my shock! If you're so sore about it, do something about it. There are some very mean non humans out there always listening, you could always contact them, it's not hard really. I've always lived by the advice that if you're dealing with bullies, find a bigger bully to protect you. It's simple really, and you probably have a leg up on me already.

    So again Neo, what are you looking for and do you think you'll really find it here? Most importantly though, is it worth it?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:22 pm

    You are speaking from within the simulation.

    We are outside this construct atm on OMF.

    I have prevented us from fully engaging.

    I have had to illustrate the framework I found wrapping all stories.

    The details don’t matter.

    The plot or players don’t matter.

    So what do you think matters here now to you?

    We tell stories, the stories aren’t more important than another.

    But it is so so easy to slip in and get lost in your story.

    What’s your story?

    I don’t care about those muppets you mentioned.

    If they aren’t lifting people up, they are parasites.

    But you showed up here.

    You have not let your awareness expand far enough yet.

    You have to let the plot go to do this.

    Try it.

    What do you see?
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    Post by U Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:33 am

    Nothing Smelly, they see nothing Smelly because they are nothing Smelly, nothing but Fear incarnate!

    I was there too, not long ago.


    But beyond that fear, within that fear is something so beautiful it's almost indescribable.

    The people here at the OMF have helped me immensely.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:20 am

    Truly, you have helped yourself.

    I am a fisher of Human Beings.

    What is in me calls forth the knowledge you already have within yourself.

    I am a witness.

    I only know my breath and the beat of my heart.

    I know you.

    My being knows your being.

    You know what to do.

    Do it.

    Don’t think about it.

    Don’t fear it.

    Just do it.

    I saw the new Star Wars tonight.

    I have a message to the fearful.

    Rise...now is the time to face yourself.

    There is forgiveness for anyone.

    No matter the darkness.

    It only takes a moment to pierce your heart.

    To let you close enough to prik your own heart.

    It may be the end of you, but what a moment to see the dawn and then the sunset.

    Yuh are powerful.

    We are all here behind you.

    You have all you need.

    Rise!
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    Post by U Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:27 am

    I enjoyed The Rise of Skywalker quite a bit too.

    Can't explain it but I always felt a connection between this track and that story.

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    Post by U Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:31 am

    Neo really just doesn't have it in him, does he/she?

    Imagine if you were one of those kids waiting for the perfect moment to spring this on the perpetrators of your trauma and a silly internet forum scared you away! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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