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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:44 pm

    “Nature’s first green is gold,
    Her hardest hue to hold.
    Her early leaf’s a flower;
    But only so an hour.
    Then leaf subsides to leaf.
    So Eden sank to grief,
    So dawn goes down to day.
    Nothing gold can stay.”

    —Robert Frost - “Nothing Gold Can Stay”


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    Authentic final participation is a breath of fresh air in a world of pretenders.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:15 pm

    “Those who have wished men to believe in them are absurd.”

    Don’t believe me!

    If you have the courage to embark on your own independent and self-reliant study and work using your own personally discovered methods, I shall be satisfied.

    No tongue or pen can you have trust in, as these are the destroyers of the true experience of life.

    My life is my gospel.

    ...

    THERE are seven keys to the great gate,
    Being eight in one and one in eight.
    First, let the body of thee be still,
    Bound by the cerements of will,
    Corpse-rigid; thus thou mayst abort
    The fidget-babes that tease the thought.
    Next, let the breath-rhythm be low,
    Easy, regular, and slow;
    So that thy being be in tune
    With the great sea's Pacific swoon.
    Third, let thy life be pure and calm,
    Swayed softly as a windless palm.
    Fourth, let the will-to-live be bound
    To the one love of the profound.
    Fifth, let the thought, divinely free
    From sense, observe its entity.
    Watch every thought that springs; enhance
    Hour after hour thy vigilance!
    Intense and keen, turned inward, miss
    No atom of analysis!
    Sixth, on one thought securely pinned
    Still every whisper of the wind!
    So like a flame straight and unstirred
    Burn up thy being in one word!
    Next, still that ecstasy, prolong
    Thy meditation steep and strong,
    Slaying even God, should He distract
    Thy attention from the chosen act!
    Last, all these things in one o'erpowered,
    Time that the midnight blossom flowered!
    The oneness is. Yet even in this,
    My son, thou shall not do amiss
    If thou restrain the expression, shoot
    Thy glance to rapture's darkling root,
    Discarding name, form, sight, and stress
    Even of this high consciousness;
    Pierce to the heart! I leave thee here:
    Thou art the Master. I revere
    Thy radiance that rolls afar,
    O Brother of the Silver Star!

    CROWLEY "AHA!"

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/aba/aba2.htm

    ...

    We should then not accuse one another or try to dissuade each other through any rhetoric, instead let all investigate in perfect freedom from bias the phonomena which occurred to the great teachers and leaders of Humanity.

    We owe everything to the voices within and Nature without.

    We should explore and turn all over and even come to kill and integrate our gods and their totems.

    And eat of their flesh and speak their words.

    For we bring the ancient and dead to life in us.

    We are the Speakers for the Dead.

    Buddha was the only teacher with no dogma of the great religions.

    So I have chosen the Way of no faith as my companion in life and acceptance of all appearances as illusory, but not illusions.

    All the great self help schemes from history have some commonality. They recommend virtue as a foundation, solitude, absence of excitement, moderate diet, a practice like prayer or meditation.

    The last three conditions encourage the fourth.

    What is our prayer or meditation but a restraining of the mind to a single act or state or thought.

    I experience random thoughts now only rarely where once they raged like a storm.

    I can speak from experience that the trance state is one that allows reprogramming of the mind-body connection and the voice can manifest from this state.

    Life itself becomes an act of single focus and thus meditation and acting spontaneously allows the best possible outcomes to manifest.

    This state only manifests from a well trained mind.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:13 pm

    MLA1.11

    It is by freeing the mind from external influences, whether causal or emotional, that it obtains power to see somewhat of the truth of things.

    Let us master our minds and bodies then.

    Now, the basic law here is to do what is effective.



    Behind Gnosticism was Orpheus.

    Unclear if Orpheus lived or not. Inviting our internal body energies to manifest and incubating them in mind is one aim of meditation.

    Uniting subject and object, the seer and the seen, is a physical process that has the side effect of awakening Genius.

    Observing the increase of your ability through acting with focus creates a tight loop that burns impossibly hot.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:08 pm

    You could say Magick is the art of finding and living your true will.

    Life lived well is a work of artistic creation.

    You are given the means to create yourself with the elements presented to you.

    Your sequence of DNA and what you are doing at any given moment is unique in the known universe at any given time.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:59 pm

    “Inheritor of a Dying World, we call thee to the Living Beauty.

    Wanderer in the Wild Darkness, we call thee to the Gentle Light.

    Long hast thou dwelt in Darkness. Quit the Night and seek the Day.”

    —Regardie, Israel. The Golden Dawn
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:10 pm

    While we walk a straight path, the Daimon travels in the lightening-flash of inspiration. The lightening flash of inspiration is the power of genius.

    The Tower of the Tarot, not the cup, is the home of our genius and ego.

    God moves in the pulse of the artery, in the zig zag of lightening, instantaneous. And then things settle and then another cosmic beat...and another.

    Flash...Bam...POW!!!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:43 pm

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    Post by SurfBum Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:23 am

    Laser focus is key
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    Post by cwallatruth Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:59 am

    "Unfocused chaos
    Nonsensical creation
    Focus is human"
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:11 am

    40 haikus in 3 days
    You have been bit by the green lady and now you speak the green language

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:18 am

    Very interesting cards.

    I picked the green lady last two days in a row in Wildwood deck.

    Just yesterday I described the journey of life and awareness like walking down a hallway and having armor and weapons strapped on as I was being prepared to battle the Great Dragon at the end of the hall.

    I burst into a giant treasure room at the end of the hall, armor gleaming and there was no fearsome dragon to be found.

    Instead I saw a few dragons sitting around a table playing cards and I was invited to sit down and play awhile. They were smoking cigars. Which I thought very funny. Not like they need to worry about cancer or anything.

    Picked this today...haha.

    It’s funny how things align themselves so we can notice.

    I can be cutting Wink

    From my ISIS Marseille deck.

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    Post by SurfBum Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:24 am

    The dragon story is great!
    My favorite card game is probably strip poker.
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    Post by cwallatruth Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:03 am

    Aaron, Smelly,

    I know nothing about Tarot cards. Can you recommend a certain deck to purchase?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:30 am

    If you feel like you would like to explore it, you are living the Tarot after all, maybe do some research and see what speaks to you or not.

    Maybe go look at decks at a bookstore and see what you resonate with.

    Do some research on the Tarot.

    There are some different kinds of decks.

    Marsellie style is one of oldest, I like Thoth style for deep work and study.

    Before they were cards, they were talismans and were rocks and bones before that.

    The I Ching is the Eastern version and it goes back to runes and sticks.

    Meditations on the Tarot is a really good intro.

    https://www.amazon.com/Meditations-Tarot-Journey-Christian-Hermeticism/dp/1585421618

    If you are open and connect to the cards, you will be amazed.

    It’s not a trick, it’s a mirror of the stages of inner transformation.

    Lots of correspondences with Qabalah.

    An old tool of the Magi.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:40 am

    My favorite is the Mary-El Tarot because of the companion book it comes with. She references many of the great outsiders of the past, those who have dove deep deep down like William Blake, Joseph Campbell and many others. She also references a wide variety of myths throughout history and compares the stories from them to the process of awakening. She also uses some Kabbalah as well. Very deep but also a good variety of angles. Her art is extremely powerful as well.

    I think the best thing though is to look at a few different decks online and look at the art and go with what you feel a connection with.

    I have used tarot as an accent to deep diving into the abyss, but it is true that it is not necessary for awareness. It's just an extension of you.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:43 am

    I am the lowly and despised
    Thus I can never condemn

    I am the weak and stupid one
    Thus I can accomplish anything

    I am the beggar and failure
    Thus I can give and accept all

    I am the fiend
    Thus I am the light
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:50 am

    I am the Way the Truth and the Life.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:08 am

    If only everyone accepted they are.

    I suppose when we should we will.

    Dan is on tilt Aaron.

    Best to ignore him and do your own thing.

    He’s stuck 2000 years in the past.

    He isn’t being led by his unconscious by choice.

    He misses the knowing of direct experience.

    He doesn’t understand how to transcend language.

    In some mystery schools, to filter out the pretenders, you have to be able to see inside and prove it.

    The profane and vulgar can be ignored really.

    They can’t be helped unless they want to help themselves.

    As far as I can tell I’m connected to the Secret Chiefs.

    And who are the Secret Chiefs but reflections of our transcendent unknown unnameable source.

    Anything you can name is not IT.

    And yet it communicates.

    There is only one person who matters, the one who walks down that hall toward their certain doom to face the dragon.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:16 am

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    CW,
    Have fun and remember that alone you are enough.

    "I had a discussion with a great master in Japan... and we were talking about the various people who are working to translate the Zen books into English, and he said, "that's a waste of time. If you really understand Zen... you can use any book. You could use the Bible. you could use Alice in Wonderland. you could use the dictionary, because... the sound of rain needs no translation." - Alan Watts

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    Post by SurfBum Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:20 am

    I don't know who I will or will not ignore and I'm constantly surprising myself, it's lots of fun.

    However, we have something good going here now I think on this thread with focused final participation so I will lay off Dan.....for now.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:40 am

    You don’t need to argue with anyone was my point.

    Pick up your mat and walk on if they don’t want you around or what you have to offer.

    And no one really has anything to offer anyone in the end.

    And this is my thread and I’m just posting what I’m looking into.

    I have no point or need draw any conclusions.

    Life is a conversation.

    This is just what is happening.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:53 am

    I'll be honest, I don't think I have anything to offer Dan.

    I'm just having fun practicing Now Now Now with him and his honey pot.

    Honey pots are anti-now and I find them to be very amusing.

    I'm learning to ignore the pretenders more and more every day, what can I say.


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