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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:44 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    “Nature’s first green is gold,
    Her hardest hue to hold.
    Her early leaf’s a flower;
    But only so an hour.
    Then leaf subsides to leaf.
    So Eden sank to grief,
    So dawn goes down to day.
    Nothing gold can stay.”

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:15 pm

    Only liars and fools
    Speak of Disclosure
    Disclose this
    Me like beer
    Beer yuuummm
    Cheers

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:27 pm

    History is more an art than a science.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:02 pm

    I opened the door
    But no one was there
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:54 pm

    OK...

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:40 pm

    A very strange thing happened after my DMT trips, I met a Trickster jester like energy.

    On DMT, it showed itself in my mind as Baphomet.

    It manifested as several forms to me, Green Man, Clowns, Daimon.  

    Perhaps this is a latent energy that is always present but activates when one resonates on its wavelength.

    Who knows or cares, it happened.

    I found a way around it or into it.

    It wouldn’t leave me alone, I wrote about much of it.

    Finally, when I no longer struggled, it went silent.

    I had to let it all go.

    It had no hold on me then.

    Before it shook me around like a doll.

    Whatever I fell back to in my mind to defend my self it could get past.

    I was able to watch it stalking me.

    Licking its sharp teeth.

    It taunted me to do things.

    To let my beliefs go.

    It never sought control or my allegiance.

    Anytime I showed it something I found in life to make it meaningful, it slapped it out of my hands.

    It left me laughing.

    It was a funny game of show and tell.

    It still pops up from time to time, but I dance with it.

    Accept all of what comez.

    Don’t fight it, no point to fight, it just ages you faster.

    Straight on.

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    You go to Heaven for the climate
    And Hell for the companionship

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:05 pm

    “For the Anniversary of My Death,” featured in his 1993 book, The Second Four Books of Poems, Merwin writes:

    Every year without knowing it
    I have passed the day
    When the last fires will wave to me
    And the silence will set out
    Tireless traveler
    Like the beam of a lightless star

    Then I will no longer
    Find myself in life as in a strange garment
    Surprised at the earth
    And the love of one woman
    And the shamelessness of men
    As today writing after three days of rain
    Hearing the wren sing and the falling cease
    And bowing not knowing to what

    Merwin, a Zen Buddhist and US poet laureate, just died at 91.

    Thanks for your nothing words.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:10 pm

    It Just Doesn’t Matter

    Life happens, we just had to show up.

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    One day a farmer’s horse runs away. And his neighbor comes over and says, to commiserate, “I’m so sorry about your horse.” And the farmer says “Who Knows What’s Good or Bad?” The neighbor is confused because this is clearly terrible. The horse is the most valuable thing he owns.

    But the horse comes back the next day and he brings with him 12 feral horses. The neighbor comes back over to celebrate, “Congratulations on your great fortune!” And the farmer replies again: “Who Knows What’s Good or Bad?”

    And the next day the farmer’s son is taming one of the wild horses and he’s thrown and breaks his leg. The neighbor comes back over, “I’m so sorry about your son.” The farmer repeats: “Who Knows What’s Good or Bad?”

    Sure enough, the next day the army comes through their village and is conscripting able-bodied young men to go and fight in war, but the son is spared because of his broken leg.

    And this story can go on and on like that. Good. Bad. Who knows?

    In the West we label and make distinctions about everything, this is confused.

    What comes comes, it just doesn’t matter.

    Straight on.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:20 pm

    All Towers of Babel fall.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:49 pm

    The water washes over us
    The wind blows through us
    What is lost and gained
    What is good or bad
    It just doesn’t matter

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:21 pm

    Simple Shit

    Investigate any beliefs you have
    You will find they are not real
    Look into all of them
    You are
    You don’t believe you are here
    You are here
    Reality is right here
    Right now
    The mind is time
    Looking for your self
    In time is absurd
    You are right here
    It all works out
    Self knowledge
    Is immediately here
    It isn’t in memory or thought
    You don’t even have
    To think about it
    And that’s about all
    Anyone can know
    You don’t have
    To take a step or breath
    Or leave your chair
    To be this
    You are that
    There is no method
    No teaching
    No saviors
    No practices
    Just you here
    Simple, huh Wink
    Wonderful

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    People are so full of shit.

    If you suffer it’s because you keep yourself separate from all that is.

    You are this, you don’t have a part, you are just this.

    Wu Wei is the intuitive knowledge of the tide of life.

    It’s the art of sailing as opposed to rowing

    Everyone is trying so hard, only letting things be will accomplish everything, because everything is already accomplished.

    It requires none of your thought, only free flow.

    Unless you become again as a child, you can never enter the kingdom of Heaven.

    We are in Heaven now on Spaceship Earth.

    Heaven is space, the void.

    You are here.

    Most don’t know this.

    “O that this too solid flesh would melt.” —Shakespeare

    Actually we are mostly made of space.

    Airy nothings chattering and barking endlessly.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:14 pm

    Shut your eyes
    And let your thoughts rest
    Just listen
    Listen wherever you go
    No names or concepts
    Hear it all like music
    That’s what is
    Eventually
    If you let the music flow
    You will accept finally
    You are here
    And that’s just grand
    You may begin to vibrate
    And sing along
    Really stretch that last note
    Into eternity even
    Smeared across
    Space and time
    Heaven and Hell
    What a trip to the Stars

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:52 pm

    Dance as if no one is watching
    Even your self
    As soon as your conscious of it
    The beat is lost

    Don’t play to the gallery
    Live as if no one is watching
    Totally natural
    Riding on the wind

    It’s easy to stand still
    The difficulty is to walk
    By not touching the ground
    There is a weightlessness to being

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:15 pm

    I can not really control my mind

    So...

    “I let my mind think
    Whatever it wants to think
    I let my ears hear
    Whatever they want to hear
    I let my eyes see
    Whatever they want to see
    I let my feet go
    Wherever they want to go
    My face is melting off
    I don’t know if
    I am walking on the wind
    Or if the wind
    Is walking on me”

    It just doesn’t matter...

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:10 pm

    I for one don’t want the party to end.

    I don’t want to arrive.

    I want no conclusion.

    I like the road to nowhere.

    Conclusions are a bummer dudes, I mean muppets.

    So we make merry.

    We dance for no reason.

    We sing because we sing.

    The crown bows to the heart.

    To just have a glimpse.

    Eternity in a glimpse.

    In a flash.

    What a trip.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:23 am

    We are thrown into the world

    We avoid what is before us

    We can see through things

    All the way through

    We are born to all we have

    We are projected here

    Life is ordinary/extraordinary

    We all must face the human condition

    You won’t live through your death

    It won’t be an experience you have

    Fully consider your life in light of this

    Those who can’t accept it

    Follow their imaginary

    Visions and Voices

    Silence them and you will face it

    All must make their own choice

    To evade the reality of our mortality

    Is inhuman perhaps, whatever human is

    Straight on
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:27 pm

    Blow and howl
    Spin and dance
    Joy Joy Joy

    "We posses our body by chance and we are already pleased with it. If our physical bodies went through ten thousand transformations without end, how incomparable would this joy be! Therefore the sage roams freely in the realm in which nothing can escape and all endures. Those who regard dying a premature death, getting old, and the beginning and the end of life as equally good are followed by others. How much more is that to which all things belong and on which the whole process of transformation depends (that is, Tao)?"

    -- Chuang Tzu

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    The only thing that’s you
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