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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:44 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    “Nature’s first green is gold,
    Her hardest hue to hold.
    Her early leaf’s a flower;
    But only so an hour.
    Then leaf subsides to leaf.
    So Eden sank to grief,
    So dawn goes down to day.
    Nothing gold can stay.”

    —Robert Frost - “Nothing Gold Can Stay”


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:56 am

    What is the idea and ideal of resurrection? The following parable can be useful to us for understanding the meaning of the idea and ideal of resurrection:

    Some people are near the bed of a sick person and give their opinions on his state and his prospects. One of them says: "He is not ill. It is his nature which is manifesting in this fashion. His state is only natural." Another says: "His illness is temporary. It will be followed naturally by the re-establishment of his health. Cycles of sickness and health follow one after the other, This is the law of destiny." A third says: "The illness is incurable. He is suffering in vain. It would be better to put an end to his suffering and to give him, through pity, death." Then the last one begins to speak: "His illness is fatal. He will not recover at all without help from outside. It will be necessary to renew his blood, for his blood is infected. I shall let his blood and then give him a transfusion of blood. I shall give my blood for the transfusion." And the end of the story is that after treating him accordingly, the ill person —being healed —gets up.

    These are the four principal attitudes towards the world. The pagan attitude is that of accepting the world as it is. The "pagan", i.e. he who believes that the world is perfect and for whom the world is the god "Cosmos", denies the fact that the world is sick. There was no Fall of Nature. Nature is health and perfection itself. The attitude of "spiritual naturism", i.e. that of minds whose horizon is enlarged beyond the present state of the world to recognition of the semi-cyclical evolution — the "seasons" of the great cosmic year—of the world, is that of believing that degeneration and regeneration follow one another cyclically in the world, that "falls" and "reintegrations" of the world alternate as do the seasons of the year. For "spiritual naturism" the present world is certainly "sick", i.e. degenerate, but it will re-establish itself, i.e. it will regenerate, necessarily and naturally, according to the law of cyclicity. One has only to wait for it.

    The attitude of "spiritual humanism" is that of people who raise themselves above the pure and simple cyclicity of "spiritual naturism" and who protest, in the name of the individual being, against the interminable chain of cyclicity (be it "seasons" of the world or individual reincarnations) —seeing here interminable subjugation and suffering for the human being. This attitude is one of negation both as a whole and in detail of past, present and future Nature—whether spiritual or material, cyclical or unique. Life is suffering; therefore it would be cruel and inhuman to affirm it. Human salvation, dictated by pity, is to cut for ever all links of the human spirit with the world and its cyclicity.

    The naive cosmology of paganism is the point of view of the first person in our parable—the one who says: "He is not ill." The "spiritual naturism" of enlightened paganism is the point of view of the second person - the one who says that illness is only a cyclic episode. The negation of the world of "spiritual humanism" is expressed by the third person who says: "The illness being incurable, it is better to let the sufferer die."

    Now, these three attitudes towards the world —historically manifested in pagan Hellenism, in Hindu Brahminism, and in Buddhism —are distinguished from the fourth, i.e. that of active intervention with a view to accomplishing the work of the purification and regeneration of the world, in that they lack the therapeutic impulse and faith in therapy, whilst the attitude which is manifested historically in the prophetic religions (Iranian, Judaic and Islamic) and in the religion of salvation (Christianity), where renewal of the world is the motive force and final aim is essentially therapeutic. Ir is the fourth person of our parable — he who acts, healing the illness through a transfusion of his blood — who represents the Christian attitude, which includes and realizes those of the prophetic religions. The Christian ideal is the renewal of the world—"a new heaven and a new earth" (Revelationxxi, 1), i.e. universal resurrection.

    The idea and ideal of resurrection goes further than the negation of Nature, as is the case with the "spiritual humanism" of Buddhism; it signifies its complete transformation, the alchemical work on a cosmic scale of the transmutation of Nature —spiritual as well as material, "heaven" and "earth".

    There is no idea and ideal more bold, more contrary to all empirical experience, and more shocking to common sense than that of resurrection. Indeed the idea and ideal of resurrection presupposes a force of soul which renders it capable: not only of emancipation from the hypnotizing influence of the totality of empirical facts, i.e. of breaking away from the world; not only of deciding to take part in the evolution of the world — that is to say, no longer in the capacity of an object of the world but also, and rather, as a subject, i.e. of becoming a motivating spirit instead of a "moved" spirit; not only of participating actively in the process of world evolution; but also of raising oneself to conscious participation in the work of divine magic —the magical operation on a cosmic scale whose aim is resurrection. The idea, the ideal and the work of resurrection comprises the "fifth asceticism". For there is "natural asceticism"—that of moderation and putting the brakes on desires — with health in view; there is the "asceticism of detachment"— that of the spirit conscious of itself and of its immortality in the face of things that are transitory and of less value—with a view to freedom; there is the "asceticism of attachment"—that of the love of God, where loving him is divesting oneself of all that which intervenes between oneself and the Beloved—with a view to union; there is the "asceticism of activity"—that of active participation in evolution, i.e. of human work and endeavor aiming at perfection; and lastly there is the "asceticism of divine magic"—that of the great work of resurrection. This "fifth asceticism" includes and crowns all the other "aceticisms", since the work of divine magic presupposes union with the divine will, the realization and surpassing of evolution, complete freedom of the spirit, and therapeutic action towards man and Nature.

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    Post by SurfBum Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:41 am

    Here is a synopsis of the 5 categories:

    "Pagan"-denies the world is sick. Nature is health and perfection itself.

    "Spiritual Naturism"-minds whose horizon is enlarged beyond the present state of the world to recognition of the semi-cyclical evolution — the seasons of the great cosmic year—of the world. The world is sick but it will regenerate itself.

    "Spiritual Humanism"—raise themselves above the pure and simple cyclicity of "spiritual naturism" and who protest, in the name of the individual being, against the interminable chain of cyclicity. Human salvation, dictated by pity, is to cut for ever all links of the human spirit with the world and its cyclicity.

    "Active Intervention/Prophetic Tradition"-Active intervention with a view to accomplishing the work of the purification and regeneration of the world through active therapeutic intervention.

    "asceticism of divine magic"—that of the great work of resurrection. This "fifth asceticism" includes and crowns all the other "aceticisms", since the work of divine magic presupposes union with the divine will, the realization and surpassing of evolution, complete freedom of the spirit, and therapeutic action towards man and Nature.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:00 pm

    How does asceticism of divine magic includes and crown the other four categories?

    It takes the following concepts from each category and integrates them into One True Will.

    We integrate the eastern and western traditions using the magician's relaxed focus on the present flowing now now now.

    This is active imagination of the best possible play/story, but all these are merely abstractions of imagination.

    Spiritual Naturism—”natural asceticism"—that of moderation and putting the brakes on desires

    Spiritual Humanism—“asceticism of detachment"— that of the spirit conscious of itself and of its immortality in the face of things that are transitory and of less value—with a view to freedom

    Pagan/Nature is perfect itself—”asceticism of attachment"—that of the love of God, where loving him is divesting oneself of all that which intervenes between oneself and the Beloved—with a view to union

    Active Intervention/Prophetic Tradition—“asceticism of activity"—that of active participation in evolution, i.e. of human work and endeavor aiming at perfection

    True Will-"asceticism of divine magic"—that of the great work of resurrection. This "fifth asceticism" includes and crowns all the other "aceticisms", since the work of divine magic presupposes union with the divine will, the realization and surpassing of evolution, complete freedom of the spirit, and therapeutic action towards man and Nature.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:41 am

    Very good Aaron.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:15 pm

    The Limits of Reason and Logic

    “Be a philosopher; but, amidst all your philosophy, be still a man.”

    “Ever since the days of the ancient Greek philosophers, in one way or another, many subsequent thinkers have fallen into two camps of thought: rationalist and empiricist.

    This distinction has been more apparent since Rene Descartes helped revive modern philosophy, but the conflict has always existed at the core of our inquiry. In simple terms, it’s an argument about whether knowledge is gained through reason or sense experience.

    While there are compelling cases for one, the other, and even both simultaneously, Hume, who was an empiricist, was the first to show the flaws in a purely rationalist model.

    He understood our mental perception of the world as created by two things: ideas (thoughts) and impressions (sensations and feelings). But he made the argument that the ideas could only ever be derived from our impressions, and thus they weren’t ever independent at all.

    Beyond that, various mental facilities translate our impressions into ideas, and quite often, this is done in a way that leads us to contradictions and logical fallacies. Even the principle of cause and effect (the bedrock of reason), he argued, could be doubted by mere argument.

    We don’t ever observe or deduce something causing an effect, but rather, we fall into habits of thought that are reinforced into us because they anticipate a probabilistic connection.

    While Hume understood that in practice the principle of cause and effect was robust enough to rely on, as even he did, his argument made it clear that reason and logic aren’t everything.

    In fact, taking it further, he showed how even his own philosophy could be doubted, and how impossible it was to derive any sort of certainty about our conceptual knowledge.

    He still stood by his empiricism, but the point was to illustrate how skepticism could poke holes in anything, and how uncertain we really are about pretty much everything.”



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:45 pm

    “By using abstract reasoning that isn’t detached from reality and by respecting certain facts, we can make distinctions between right and wrong, and we can live in alliance with them.

    Philosophy may give us insight into how best to think, and even some exposure to what kind of life is preferred, but the day-to-day business of living goes beyond mere philosophy.

    Unforgiving skepticism is self-defeating. A balanced version of it, however, does have a place. It reminds us to exercise both caution and modesty so that we can actually improve.

    The one domain of philosophy where the conceptual is valuable and that consistently contributes to how we live is the domain of ethics: the study of right and wrong conduct.

    The root of our morality, according to Hume, is our moral sentiments: We have innately programmed feelings that tell us when we are acting in a way that is virtuous or vicious.

    We have an urge to balance our own self-interest with the interest of the group we identify with. And because we care about our group, we can feel sympathy, and thus act morally.

    Hume essentially makes the case that this common, unbiased spectator exists within us, too, and that’s why purely selfish behavior, even with a stranger, isn’t in our own self-interest.

    If we weren’t self-interested, our ability to survive would suffer. But at the same time, if we are too self-interested, we ignore the fact that we can’t survive without other people, either.

    It’s often said that philosophy teaches you how to think. But what it doesn’t always teach you is how to live. And in practice, they are two very different things with two very different goals.

    Even today, David Hume is the thinker that most living philosophers feel they best identify with. He practiced skepticism, but he also wasn’t afraid to stop it from getting in his way.

    To doubt is to be human. We learn when we accept uncertainty, and we grow when we self-correct. Skepticism is a state of mind that allows the right kind of doubt to flourish.

    It’s easy to see the world as you want to see it. But it takes boldness to try and see it as it is.”



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    Post by dan Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:18 pm

    smelly,

    You didn’t know that I’m doubting Thomas, personified.  

    I bite the hand that feeds me....... frequently.  

    I guess it almost makes me feel human.

    It is a wonderful feeling. I think Aliyah might know what that’s like.

    I would hate to cut it short. Wouldn’t you?


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:19 pm

    Could have fooled me, but you didn’t [smiley]https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/smiley]

    I am a little more direct in my analysis than you are of the idolatry and confusion of thought and feeling. That’s what it is to be smelly.

    At least I do it with a smile, see [smiley]https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/smiley]
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    Post by dan Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:24 pm

    smelly claims to be more analytic than the Annalyzer from Hell.  

    Excuse me, smelly.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:25 pm

    I run Hell, it’s hot down here.
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    Post by dan Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:27 pm

    No you don’t.  I run Hell, smelly.  It smells like sulfur.

    I would already be having my 3rd glass of whine except for the fact that the captain has to use the potty.
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    Post by dan Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:32 pm

    Why is America so flat?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:32 pm

    I run Hell Pretender, it’s mine, and you are all my muppets.
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    Post by dan Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:35 pm

    Oh, dear,

    I didn’t realize that I was on the smelly thread. I’m so sorry.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:39 pm

    Bahahaha old drunk man.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:13 pm

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ktkjUjcZid0

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    https://youtu.be/YelSSRAE1Hs

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:09 am

    The Banach-Tarski Paradox

    You can divide a piece of paper into 5 pieces and rearrange them into two separate objects of the same size as the original.

    Infinity / 2 = Infinity

    Infinity + 1 = Infinity

    Infinite sets of numbers go against common sense.

    There are an infinite number of points on a spheres surface.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:45 am

    Last night, two balls of light in the room after I woke up from after I fell through a portal in a dream.

    They were the only lights in the dark room.

    Today I saw the face of a woman with her eyes spread far apart.

    Smelly goat be seeing and hearing lots of shit.

    It happens.

    Shrug.
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:53 am

    https://youtu.be/s86-Z-CbaHA


    Has smelly been using any drugs other than weed?

    Did Marissa see these orbs?
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:15 am

    This is the library of infinitely generated random characters in the English alphabet.

    You can find anything ever said or will be said in this randomly generated library.

    For example, go here:

    https://libraryofbabel.info/browse.cgi

    Paste this into the hex:

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    Then go to wall 2, shelf 4, volume 5, page 38

    There you will find the randomly generated sentence halfway down the page.

    “Hi my name is smelly goat and I’m a clone of myself an infinite number of times in a finite moment”

    Here you can search for any sentence or paragraph ever said and find it.

    https://libraryofbabel.info/search.html

    I'm sure they don't store anything in their database until you do a search....it's reverse engineered at the moment you do a search and then stored with the generated hex....sneaky.


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    Post by SurfBum Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:42 am

    Just kidding about the drugs by the way.

    I’ve seen just as strange things myself without using drugs.

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    Post by U Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:29 am

    Can confirm, I wasn't on drugs when I saw orbs.
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    Post by whoknows Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:35 am

    smelly wrote:https://youtu.be/YelSSRAE1Hs

    As I listened this old saying came to mind.

    "Talking to yourself isn't be a sigh of insanity but answer yourself definitely is."
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:44 pm

    Aaron wrote:https://youtu.be/s86-Z-CbaHA


    Has smelly been using any drugs other than weed?

    Did Marissa see these orbs?

    I am on a 2 week fast, no pot or yummy food.

    So might be related.

    She sees them sometimes and she sees people and beings in parts of the house.

    They are swarming us.

    She was watching a kid cap on the counter yesterday and it had been still setting on its side for 1 day and as she watched it it started rolling back and forth and she freaked and called me.

    Haha.

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