Family in a Fishbowl / Princess + 0 / reality show......

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Here goes Nothing........

The Princess is barely talking to me, and I seem to be holding her kid hostage.......

I guess they’d better send in the SWAT team.  

Just another typical day in the life of the family..... of any microcosmic family........
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Links to the BPWH Glossary's 

The first is to a partial glossary......... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

And at the top of the glossary is the link to one of the several original mnemonic pages, grouped around April of 2016........ https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 . 

We is Me

Anyone with balls to look and accept in their small little brains can experience the multiverse.

I didn’t say anything about the Abyss, I live here.

I can’t speak about the Abyss.

I’m a Being of apparent change, a person in a connected world.

My speculation is that whatever the multiverse is, it describes some aspect of being.

I don’t think it’s an argument against a tuned universe.

I think we tuned this place, we is me.

The Abyss you mention doesn’t exist apart from anything I’m aware of.

I assure you I’m not as stupid as you assume us to be.

Smelly is a personalist and you don’t have to be a theist.

Theism is for morons.

“Personalism thrived in India through the six orthodox schools of Indian philosophy scattered along the Indus River Valley of the Indian subcontinent, and developed parallel to Personalism in the West.

Personalists claim that the person is the key in the search for self-knowledge, for correct insight into reality, and for the place of persons in it. Other than giving centrality to the person, Personalism has no other set of principles or unified doctrine. Although many prominent personalists have been theists, this doctrine is not a requirement.”

We have no doctrine.

Drop the god bullshitz will you maybe

I think theism describes one way to interact with the Underworld, one set of symbols. But if we look into theism, we see it all evaporates and begins and ends in the person here.

We can see materialists are wrong. This is not a dying rock, it’s a vibrant evolving multidimensional system that arises codependently with us. Anyone can prove this to themselves, no math needed. Indescribable using reason and logic only.

To think, stupidly, objective observation, which is impossible, will reveal being, is laughable this side of the rainbow. The rainbow is part of a circle our vision intersects with. We have been able to perceive nature using imagination, given us by nature.

We will never ever be objective, nor know an objective reality, it is insane to pursue such imho.

Most people you meet I feel are insane and lost with no theory of mind.

Nature made us and is now speaking to us in many ways.

My prayer and naive faith is that more sane souls will stop on by, personal chips off the ole block.

Psychedelics are depatterning us, rapid evolution is underway, get your ticket to ride while you can.



It really gets fun when you take your hands off the wheel.

It seems Judgement has come, we are close to the end now smelly, you wait and see. All your cries in the dark were heard dear brother. Your mother I heard even came back to you. Good on you for not hating her and leaving your anger and sadness. You can always return to them when you like. Your best best life is on the other side of your anger and sadness.

Every one of your cries was heard smelly goat.

You are so loved.

You are so alive!

And so dead!

We draw no final curtains here.

The show will go on.

We have heard the herald’s call.

Instead of light, his hair is like flames.

The dead float on the sea of being.

Now, they rise up in our awareness.

We all rise to meet the herald.

We have followed the way to the Great Ocean.

Snow covered mountains rise in the distance.

The mountains have seen it all come to pass.

The Journey is almost complete for the Fool.

Judgment signals the near end.

The Fool has done his work well, yet again.

Let us raise a prayer of thanks to the Fool.

His service is so great to us.

We will never forget the Fool.

Yes, E is our requiem to smelly.  

And I may not be as stupid as I look, either.  

I am a personalist, long before I’m any theist.  

However....... one way to demonstrate our ultimate respect for persons is to invoke an aboriginal person, which is all that theists ever do.  

You are confusing theism with deism.  An infinite abyss lies between.  


Back to Gary’s problem with the quantum........

The same person who invented the person, very likely invented the quantum.  

To understand the quantum, you just need to put yourself in their shoes, which should not be too hard since you already are.  

The quantum and the person reflect one another.  

When we speak of the mirror of Nature, we are really speaking of the quantum.  

The quantum is closer to the cosmic self than its nose.  

The quantum, of course, is the great receptacle of mathematics...... the great receptacle of logic, and, while we’re at it, we might as well throw the Logos into the same pot.  

Now that I’ve hummed the first couple of bars, you all should be able to fill in the rest, so that I can get back to sleep..... just stopping by the woods, we are.......


Well, I should suggest that the quantum also must be tightly wrapped with the primordial schizophrenic split.  No?  

You know....... Adam and Eve.... and all that good stuff.......


Poor Gary is a bit like Ron....... he has to hold my hand until he is relieved of that onerous duty, and there are others to be sure....... free at last, Lord...... free at last......

donny may be feeling the same way, about now.  It’s not always easy to be the warmup.  He and debbie would make a pair....... perish the thought.  

I guess nancy was playing hard to get.  

And how about Tulsi....... my girl..... back in the ring.......

Isaac (n) tried to fill the gap between theism and deism.  And look how far he got.  Mind the gap, René.  

Bertie.......?  He stumbled into a couple of things...... practically blew his little mathematical mind.......

And you thought I was going to elope with Marianne?  Nah, I’m much too practical for that.  Aren’t I, Gary?  Or, maybe, we should say...... been there, done that.  Some grow up easier than others, don’t we, donny?  But, the Princess....... don’t tempt me....... I could never handle her...... foot barely can’t.  I almost forgot...... I’m her godfather.  Hmmm....... more like she’s my godmother.  I guess that makes her Sophie....... there at the birth.  


9:30gmt-3.............

Maybe it’s time for a revisitation........

The Cock has Crowed, the Footman Rose, and the Cheese is on the Move. Before day Break, the plane will Fly, and the President will say Bye. Soon the curtain will Draw, the Princess will Yaw, until the Opening Act begins. Only Ack will know, when the time is right, with premier ticket to see the Show.

The plane is still on the tarmac..... but the engines are being warmed up.  

Yaw....... a skidding turn in a plane...... rudder only.  

Yes, yawning is how you slow your final approach, in addition to using flaps.  The takeoff will be the prelude to a landing.  

Yaw until the lights come up.  

Ack is, with melanie, presumably, working out the timing.  

Chevre man...... on the move.  I guess that Kevin worked out the weight allowance.  We don’t want joe coming in short at Orly....... oops...... make that Bourget.  

Any other details?  


10:20ft.........

So who do I call?  Doug came to mind.  The request is in.  


The quantum, as can be seen through a scientific lens, is just a psychic residue...... from the primordial split..... yin/yang stuff.  

Everything can make use of the quantum/atomic portal.  Certainly, biology does.  Originally, I called it an aperture...... but that was mostly from a Cartesian perspective.  With monism, the duality had to be brought inside.  The tougher job is to externalize the aperture...... render it interpersonal.   Actuators may be of some psychic assistance.  


11..........

I’ve put out texts to eight folks....... no response.  


1.........

I’ve had some responses from Ack.  That’s about it.  

The hive appears to not be in jeopardy...... how could it be?  

Is donny going to threaten to spill Disclosure beans.  Maybe that’s the whole point....... a good excuse.  


5:20.........

I’m having difficulty finding any complaints about the pace of Disclosure.

Some might say...... what Disclosure?

I see it all around.

Light amidst the shadows, of course.



(cont........)

No one cares really.

They said the sightings are real and no one cares.

They all are distracted.

What a terrible joke trump is.

Total emptiness.

Right here, that’s what it looks like.

And poor E,

He doesn’t get the joke.  Folks take him much seriously...... just like we’re supposed to.  

Make straight the way....... what appears as a jagged path is a smooth glide slope.  

You don’t believe foot........ that donny can hardly wait to fly off into the sunset?  

Ye of little faith......

There may be some bumps ahead, but the portals are our safety valves...... nothing like a little trauma to blow the doors right of their hinges.  


Taking my cue from Katarina, I’d say that the Hurtaks are rather close to ground zero of Disclosure........ certainly in the public eye..... bless their hearts.



(cont.......)

I’m an existential personalist, but I don’t know god, I just have my subjective life and evil objective forces trying to enslave me and curtail my freedom. Individualism isn’t Personalism. The state owns the individual, my ass. This is anarchic in the best sense. There is something before. Being is before knowing, or arose together. But the way is to bring things close, not to rationalize and objectify it all.

Bless Dan’s obsession on this point. I couldn’t agree more!

Kant rightly criticized naive faith in objective reality and turned to the subject. But the German idealists created a monster when the moved away from the person as central. Socialism can be hell or paradise. Jack London’s writing was not about raising up individualism, but the simple reads him that way, he was criticizing this errant way of thinking.

I don’t know what the existential basis of our being is, but here we are. The truth isn’t out there, it’s concretely here.

“Very interesting is Berdyaev's view on Truth, in terms of freedom. He radically rejected the truth that is imposed on him as an object, or as "reality". He only accepted truth that is known through freedom. In this case he talks about two freedoms, the freedom through which the truth is known, and the freedom which is brought by the truth. Knowing the truth through freedom means that it is not accepted as something that exists separately from the mind, but rather freely absorbing it and making it a part of the mind. This absorbed truth, in turn, expands the horizons of the mind or, in other words, brings new freedom. In this notion Berdyaev fought against any kind of dogma or orthodoxy, whether political, or religious, or any other. He saw orthodoxy as an authority of an organized society over a free individual, over the free spirit of a person, something that he could never accept.”

This dude Berdyaev really loved god and was obviously a genius and thought his freedom divine. Who am I to argue?

I don’t deny naturalism, nature though must emanate from the persons. I’m not down with dogma.

**WOOF**

Arrived he did with a brand new Gig leaving Cheese with barely a Fig. With the President away, the Cheese may Play, with a rattling Cage the Hollywood way. Now the Cheese is aligned with a loaf of Bread, and the Cheese Sandwich Van is just Ahead. Four stars can be seen on the Van in the Dark, for the driver is no other than the Big Cheese Clark.

Ok, class, are we paying attention?  

I don’t understand one quarter of it, but what I do is sufficient unto the day.  

Yes, we are playing cat and mouse, with a lot of cheese lying around.  


E doesn’t understand about God...... but he will.... we just have patience....

If you want to understand about God, you have to understand the quantum, but no one has, until maybe we do.......

We have spoken of the cosmic self.  Now we speak of the quantum self........ and by realizing they are the same, we may come to understand both of them for the first time...... and we may better appreciate why Bertie was so flummoxed by the quantum, almost unto death.  

Bertie invented the the quantum in 1905.  And by realizing he didn’t understand it, he was the first and last honest physicist.  

Maybe until the chicken.  

Give me a fulcrum and I’ll move the world.  

Is the chicken the first one to actually spell it out?  

The quantum has to be the cosmic fulcrum.  I have no clue what that means, but I can sort of taste it.  See if you can, and together we’ll figure this out.  Won’t we, sports fans?  

I kinda think that’s where they hid the cheese.  Tell me I’m wrong, Bertie.  

What they say about the quantum is....... shut up and calculate.  

smelly taught us that there can be more to it..... shut up and contemplate.  Tell me I’m wrong, smelley.  


8:50.........

Recall Roger’s triangle....... mind >> math >> matter.  

We now have........ self >> quantum >> cosmos.  

For now, let’s say, the quantum, there, is the fulcrum/microcosm.  

The quantum is also the true receptacle, but, of course, we’re always turning things inside out.  

Somehow, the primordial I Am had to project the quantum, which might also be the holy ghost/SoT.  

The quantum is certainly the receptacle of mathematics/Logos.  

Clearly, there are territorial issues between the big three.  

I’m suddenly reminded of my original mnemonic...... I can hardly remember it.......

Not 4mksotx2, but the other one......

azo/x/qrp....... it was all about the cosmos and microcosm, with x1 as the fulcrum.  

z is the zodiac, for instance, and r is biological reproduction.  Does this, in any way resemble Roger’s triangle?  p is pi.  

But you get the idea.  This is what personalism is all about.  

And do keep in mind the Euler identity..... -1 = e^ip.

I’m sure these little mnemonics are redolent in meaning..... far beyond my ken.  

The quantum logic is all about the ‘imaginary’ i, which otherwise is just a tool....... tool^tool.  


9:50ft(gmt-3)..........

For instance, the complaint was released 10’ ago....... you see how time does fly, when you’re having fun.......


2:50.........

I watched most of Maguire’s three hours of testimony.  It was mostly on procedural matters, but still found it to be riveting.  

Now that we have gotten to this point, I doubt that impeachment is going away with the next news cycle, short of the President’s pulling the nuclear trigger.  

Or short of Disclosure.

And, if it does come to Disclosure, I doubt that it will be on Presidential whim.

Perhaps he has said........ Disclosure over my dead body....... and, by the way, I’ll take down half of the PtB with me.

Well, I think it’s rather unlikely that the PtB will not be very seriously impacted by Disclosure.

But, rather, I suspect that this is all going by script. donny has one of the trickiest parts to play.



(cont.......)

I heard it for 2 hours driving to work.

He could slip out of it.

But it’s damning and real bad.

He’s done, he will likely negotiate an exit that will be as horrible as his presidency was.

It appeared horrible, but it was for the best perhaps.

E,

Horrible.......?

Hey, it will be the best possible exit.  

Let’s look at this strategically.........

I’m focusing on the ‘tapes’ that have been sequestered........ a White House rat hole.  

I would humbly suggest that at the bottom of the secret rat hole is the Rabbit Hole.  

The Rabbit Hole has been deliberately baited by donny.......... happy hunting, says he.  You can’t blame Disclosure on me, I did my part to keep it covered....... you’ll just have to blame those busy-body, do-gooding Democrats...... hasta la vista.  

Yes, the whistle blower was a cia officer.  Hey, he might even have been an FoR....... small world...... don’t worry, foot plays all the angles.  Now, go back and read his last post.

And, yes, painterdoug did visit 2&3 over the weekend, I’m relieved to report.  doug, though, working on his whistle blower (sic) production is not having as much contact with us, ufo muppets.  


4:05........

Golly, sports fans, it must have been a really slow news day........ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/science/tom-delonge-ufo-research.html

Earthling also reports a conversation with a principal.



(cont........)

Four stars can be seen on the Van in the Dark, for the driver is no other than the Big Cheese Clark.

WESLEY CLARK

Obviously Dan hasn’t eaten many friendly mushrooms.

He doesn’t speak as one who knows their true face as identical with nature.

He’s obviously never seen a leaf benevolently watching him.

Most are truly clueless about their place in being.

A realized being is open minded and astonished by everything.

Good luck to you Dan.

I hope you experience this.

It’s truly a gift one is given by themselves.

You don’t really know God yet I see.

You will.

You will.

Wonder is as close as I’ve gotten.

Yes, I believe Gary is correct, and Kevin does happen to be in the LA vicinity.  I promised that the chicken would not play hard to get, so maybe some fried chicken on both the sunset and the wide way.  Is there any truth to the rumor that I am offering a reward for help with fence mending..... yes...... priceless.

As for E’s shroom challenge........ it sounds like a change of protocol. You know how we are with that....... in the family. Maybe the next time around....... something to look forward to.

You aren’t coming back this way friend.

Only that day dawns, to which I am awake.

The embrace of Death is the full acknowledgement and acceptance of Life.

Memento Mori

Every breath, one breath less.

Your life, slipping, ticking, away.

And yet a flower always show us its true face.

The earth is speaking to us.

Oh yes she is.

I vibrate to her herald’s call.

It’s all good.

Takes a lot of nuts to make a fruitcake.

My psychedelic friends led me to Parmenides.

Get in the groove dude.

And let the good times roll.

It’s all downhill from here my friends.



We are going to do it.

Oh yahhhhhh

If it takes all fucking night.

That’s all then from me.

Say goodbye to E!

Who should not be mistaken for U.

Watch your step, there’s a whole lot of poo.

**POOF**

smelly and his friends know that they are always welcome......


One way to understand the macro quantum might be to consider ‘exchange’ forces between persons......  

But nowadays it is referred to as an exchange interaction, in quantum physics....... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange_interaction

Admittedly, this is a very rough analogy....... but the direction of the force depends on the relative direction of the ‘spins’, giving rise to yin/yang type of effects.  This is a stretch, but it does provide for a conceptual handle on personal cosmology.  No?  



(cont......)

Roger jumps into the infinite ... discussion of dualism and the three worlds at 25 minutes in

Gary,

Roger is definitely not playing with full deck.

He is, by his own admission, a trialist.  That might actually give him a slight advantage over Cartesian dualists.  

But he tries, somewhat desperately, to keep his three worlds from colliding.  Good luck, Roger.  

I’m sticking with my one soul theory of the world......... Monadnock or bust.  

The idea of the quantum exchange interactions of persons could well be the key to that brave new world....... right down to the two spin states.  

Yes, I asked Kevin for his take on the possible linkage between between D and I.  His dismissal was just a tad too glib, for me to take seriously....... seriously, gogo....... rehearsed, even.  

After all, sports fans, that is information you won’t find on even the most secure computer in the world.  

How many folks are aware of that probable linkage?  I would guess that it is rather more than we might imagine.  Many simply intuit.  

The whole donny episode has had that special aroma.  

Now that we are aware of the White House rat hole, can the rabbit hole be far behind?  The rat is just intended as bait for the rabbit.  

Hasta la vista..... sayonara......

Fortunately, there is a slight bit more than intuition, chez la chicken.



(cont.......)

dan wrote:smelly and his friends know that they are always welcome......


One way to understand the macro quantum might be to consider ‘exchange’ forces between persons......  

But nowadays it is referred to as an exchange interaction, in quantum physics....... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange_interaction

Admittedly, this is a very rough analogy....... but the direction of the force depends on the relative direction of the ‘spins’, giving rise to yin/yang type of effects.  This is a stretch, but it does provide for a conceptual handle on personal cosmology.  No?  



(cont......)

Until they reinstate the aether ( consciousness ) they will remain blind.

Hobbit

Yes, hobbit,

Thank you for reminding us of the aether. I had forgotten all about it.

Perhaps you could help refresh our memories.

dan wrote:Yes, hobbit,

Thank you for reminding us of the aether.  I had forgotten all about it.  

Perhaps you could help refresh our memories.  

The universe of aether ( consciousness)
All is one.
One substance that all in creation is derived from with a geometric matrix base.
In the beginning was a sound (vibration)
Ripples emanated from that sound and criss crossed in the geometry.
Our physical known world exists in part of the geometry, with multiple other dimensions within that our senses are too limited to detect.

Hobbit

hobbit,  

You propose that aether = consciousness.  

I accept that, but then you go on to make some additional statements, which tend to render this aether as a physical medium such as air or water.  

These imputations of mechanical features to the aether do not do justice to its metaphysical potential, I don’t believe.  

Such imputations run afoul of the well founded non physicality of the aether, as it was conceived, historically.

I would advise that we attempt to stick with your first suggestion of the aether’s mind-like properties.



(cont.......)

dan wrote:hobbit,  

You propose that aether = consciousness.  

I accept that, but then you go on to make some additional statements, which tend to render this aether as a physical medium such as air or water.  

These imputations of mechanical features to the aether do not do justice to its metaphysical potential, I don’t believe.  

Such imputations run afoul of the well founded non physicality of the aether, as it was conceived, historically.  

I would advise that we attempt to stick with your first suggestion of the aether’s mind-like properties.  



(cont.......)

Water and air are in 3D physical, the aether is non physical, it compresses into 3D physical in spiral compressions where it trips across dimensions of geometry into 3D.

Those spiral locations are your portals, where Your non physical mind if suitably matched geometrically can trip across dimensions , this is where Fibonacci sequencing will come into play as Your personal field ( mind0 will need to match up to the locations geometry in Fibonacci sequence.... 34/55 as an example.

Therefore many could be at the same location, but only the matching field will trip.

I detect very few with large enough diameter fields, young girls most frequently.

hobbit

Dan,

If You look upon We two as two opposite ends of a piece of string.
You at the end where lots of education has packed massive amounts of information.
Me at the end where little education has left empty area.

This leads to consequences.
You can verbalise clearly with buckets full of words.
I have few words , thus struggle to verbalise.

But that has other consequences where I offer up little resistance to other information.
Your packed information (ego) strives to be correct.

You are refreshing in that You have experienced something else ( Sophia) and thus are now willing to entertain the non accepted view of reality.

All that is needed is a bridge over troubled waters.

hobbit

You both have to meet using half the rainbow.

I like this interaction here between you two.

Fools abound, the Earth is round, the vectors point the Way. Stay the course, you foolish loon, the President is here to stay. Time again he comes and goes, but only the Princess knows. For he comes through her and with blessing goes, without fear of the foolish nose.