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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:51 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 6 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.

    Thank you.
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:14 pm

    We are monkeys riding a blind donkey backwards home.

    Smelly is the blind donkey...

    Oh and one of those monkeys is the spirit of truth telling a story about persons and eschatons and best possible worlds and the greatest show on earth and hives and a queen bee

    The Queen bee and hive is kind of like the blind donkey carrying the monkeys on its back

    Maybe smelly wanted to be the Queen bee but he didn't want to go drag so he came up either this blind donkey story instead

    Would you like to bee the Queen smelly?

    There can be only one Queen bee and I have my suspicions about who it is

    I think smelly is a drone pretending to be the Queen by wearing a blind donkey costume

    I wonder what the Queen would think of that

    That might be a stingable offense..I dont know
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    Post by hobbit Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:39 pm

    A little enlightenment about queen bees.....
    https://www.wikihow.com/Identify-a-Queen-Bee

    To bee or not to bee, that is the question.

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    Post by GrandCru Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:45 pm


    Beware the disinfo agent who identifies with dogs/beasts...honesty is too subjective for them..

    Dan:

    Did Ron give Bob Kiviat some home tapes and tell him they're the missing NASA moon landing tapes?
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:46 pm

    Wait a second, drone bees don't do the bee waggle dance, only worker bees do.

    Drone bees never leave the hive.

    They just make love to the Queen...

    Ah ha!

    You can flip between being a drone and a worker anytime you like

    Some days you can be silent and empty...without too much thoughts.

    Other days you dance and sing...you do the bee wobble dance.

    And even more rare are those who do both at the same time....those are drones that do the waggle dance while they are making love.

    I figured it out

    We are dancing drones

    You just have to have an open mind and you'll figure out over time


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    Post by hobbit Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:47 pm

    GrandCru wrote:
    Beware the disinfo agent who identifies with dogs/beasts...honesty is too subjective for them..

    Dan:

    Did Ron give Bob Kiviat some home tapes and tell him they're the missing NASA moon landing tapes?


    Stick your false assumed comments up your arse.

    That's honesty reet from Yorkshire.

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    Post by hobbit Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:49 pm

    It appears Dan needs to buy a pot of green paint , and identify the queen bee by painting Her with said paint.

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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:50 pm

    I like Hobbit

    He is just not into persons as much as Dan is
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    Post by hobbit Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:00 pm

    I recognise the GREEN MAN so the GREEN BEE fits right in.
    https://spiritofthegreenman.co.uk/green-man-legend-mythology/

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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:00 pm

    GranCru's avatar is a child butterfly holding a rifle.

    I wonder how that happened?
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:03 pm

    Khidr wears a green robe

    Do you think Khidr could be related to the green man Hobbit?

    How about the J-Man, is he green enough for you?

    And this from Wikipedia on Khidr under the Zoroastrianism section....

    "There are many figures in Iran whose place Khidr took by the Islamization process. One of them is paradoxically a female figure Anahita"

    Interesting

    Anahita is muy Bonita me thinkz


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    Post by GrandCru Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:04 pm

    hobbit wrote:
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    Beware the disinfo agent who identifies with dogs/beasts...honesty is too subjective for them..

    Dan:

    Did Ron give Bob Kiviat some home tapes and tell him they're the missing NASA moon landing tapes?


    Stick your false assumed comments up your arse.

    That's honesty reet from Yorkshire.

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    Good dog...at least you know your name now.
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    Post by hobbit Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:06 pm

    The J man is the same story as the green man, very apt for Easter.

    it is the rebirth of the land.



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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:23 pm

    See, I knew Hobbit would come around to recognize the j-man

    Now what is the probability that Dan is the j-man pretending to be just a chicken little?

    What is the probability that I am...Hobbit?

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:32 pm

    I am a blind donkey.

    Hobbit cracks me up.

    I’m with him on the green man.

    In this way, I met the man behind the myth.

    Jesus is a composite.

    Zen really does align a person better to Jesus than anything else I’ve found.

    Let’s call Jesus Consciousness, our shared group memory maybe?

    The Tao contains and knows all.

    What we bring into being is a natural process as much as influenced by consciousness.
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:19 pm

    Our OMF experiment is kind of like this one:

    https://www.space.com/black-holes-at-home-gravitational-wave-simulations.html

    The biggest difference between our project and theirs is persons.

    The gravitational waves we study are all connected back to persons...and one person in history stands out above the rest, but there have been many....just ask Dan about the m4ksotx2....the 7 end time incarnations

    you can sniff out the personal gravitational wave anomalies if you have a nose for it

    When you start sniffing around anything could show up really...even UFOs

    I saw orbs of light about a year ago and those led me here to OMF

    That was no coincidence

    I feel that UFOs do have some sort of relation to gravitational anomalies

    OMF uses gravity waves as a sort of beacon signal

    This is the net/web Dan talks about

    Here fishy fishy

    Aquarius is calling you

    a new age is beginning

    stay frosty

    You gotta keep your heads up, but you can let your hair down.

    ....

    Hobbit has some interesting ideas about gravity...something to do with inflow and outrush and spin or something....

    Maybe he is on to something with spin...

    but where do persons fit into hobbit's view of gravity?

    there are some deep connections between spinning and gravity

    Charles Dogeson may have been onto something when he wrote about Alice and the mad hatter tea party

    a very merry unbirthday to Charles

    the clock is ticking

    the march hair is grinning

    the mad hatter has a fork and knife

    the clock is in trouble

    it is the beginning of the end of time

    https://youtu.be/26RTlPgg-tA

    ...........

    Dan knows a lot about time...both historical time and deep time, don't you Dan?

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    It was!
    And it did!" - Father Feeney
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    Post by 99 Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:03 pm

    Did Trump and co. know that the Russians were infiltrating the 2016 election but did not notify authorities once it became self-evident due to their contacts with Russians during that campaign? If so, isn't that a crime in itself ...( withholding of information like that from authorities) yet I'm not hearing any of the media talking heads talking about that.

    According to Penal section 31:
    https://www.wklaw.com/knowing-about-a-crime-and-not-saying-anything/
    Prosecutors can charge you as an aider and abettor whenever you:

    • 1) Know the perpetrator’s illegal plan,

    • 2)Intentionally encourage and/or facilitate that plan, and

    • 3) Aid, promote, or instigate in the crime’s commission.




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    Post by dan Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:10 pm

    I can definitely sit back as other folks pick up the slack.  

    Hey, I just go with the flow.  Don’t I, smelly..... and Aaron?


    99,

    You’re right, but......

    Many of the national intelligence agencies are seeing the portal handwriting on the wall.  They can’t stop it, so they are keeping their fingers in the pie.  

    If the agencies will cooperate, they get extra delay time.  They can pushback on D-day deadline.  

    This explains some of the back scratching between the two presidents, I believe.  

    Hilary was more on the side of Mossad, and they are definitely not in a hurry.  

    The Princess is not a geo-politician, but she does have her ear to the door, so to speak....... both sides.  


    Aaron,

    It’s not easy to avoid the j-guy...... he sticks out like a sore thumb.  

    I just go with the flow.  


    8........

    Foot has never mentioned the ruskies, but there used to be a lot of talk about the Chinese ambitions, but not in the last couple of years.



    (cont.......)


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    Post by 99 Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:19 pm

    Thanks Dan.
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:01 pm

    true

    going with the flow

    sticking to our protocols

    maybe we should rename good friday to good flow friday

    Aquarius turns good friday into good flow friday

    Pour out the pitcher of water and let it flow!

    Don't forget to bring your galoshes!
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:06 pm

    Smile like you mean it.
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    Post by dan Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:08 pm

    One of the last things foot told me about was the proliferation of the portals...... and it was not like..... oh, goodie......

    He was never one to chill out.  


    Aaron,

    You might want your water wings.


    I do love the boy in the angel wings. If god could laugh and cry...... that would do it.


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:36 pm

    I am not a Zen Buddhist.

    I like their point of view.

    I have no beliefs or faith.

    I’m an anarchist or near about.

    I’m just enjoying life.

    Later I may be in pain, not enjoying.

    I’ll enjoy while I can.

    I have no point or purpose but to be this.

    I respect everyone’s choice how they use their brains.

    I’m selling nothing.

    I love poetry and the story of humanity.

    If you want to talk about it, let’s.

    Most here are spies or UFO folks who could care less what I say.

    I love to annoy them sometimes I must confess.

    Humanity is a rich tapestry.

    It doesn’t matter what is to come.

    It’s here.

    If the right brain is timeless, I can’t understand that.

    I am not a teacher or guru.

    I am not enlightened.

    I’m just a Dude shooting the shit about life.

    I like to tease and pull and push.

    I’m not a silent monkey, but I enjoy silence.

    Smile like you mean it.

    That is all.
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    Post by dan Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:20 pm

    That’s ok, smelly, you’ll do in pinch.  

    Best wishes with your friend[s] this evening.  I hope they’re in a party mood.


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    Post by 99 Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:01 pm

    "One of the last things foot told me about was the proliferation of the portals...... and it was not like..... oh, goodie......" ~ dan


    Dan, could elaborate more on that? 
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:02 pm

    Ha.

    I will share of course.

    So here is what I am bringing to them tonight.

    There has been a rupture as far as we can tell between thought and Being, the Word and human language, knowledge and ethics, imagination and knowledge, inner experience and outer.

    Breath is a metaphor for the force of life is the substance of the person.

    Some have called this soul. Heidegger denied the need for Persons and saw transcendence implicit in being. Perhaps this is where the Nazis went horribly wrong.

    Went Dan warmed me about over and over.

    And yes, look at how zen with no compassion, focused on a better world breeds horror.

    Futurism is a curse far as I can tell.

    There lies the dystopian barrier.

    The Nazis gave up on persons and compassion.

    Without the Person in our view, we are left with emptiness.

    It’s a fullness really.

    The loss and retreat of the voice seems to have triggered a desperate search.

    We began a search for God in language then.

    It seems we have to pick the pieces up post letting prophetic traditions go, to put a wounded whole back together.

    This is what the Sufis call “the thought of the heart”.

    Poetry is about being.

    Philosophy is thought.

    I seek “the secret master of thought”.

    Western consciousness has banished poets from the Platonic city.

    It seem the philosopher has also been banished.

    That’s how dan and I found each other.

    We all share in this dark night we live in today.

    You can see this rupture between poet Celan and Heidegger.

    Heidegger’s lack of compassion for the millions killed destroyed Celan.

    He thought it a deception on Heidegger’s part being silent about the “death-winds”.

    Celan killed himself, drown himself.

    I’ve almost drowned.

    It’s not a terrible way to go.

    Just fade away.

    I come across more and more suicide poets.

    It hurts.

    The great poets sometimes die due to the terrible rupture between being and thought, they caste themselves into the breach.

    They are lovers of humanity who die of broken hearts.

    I must grapple with them.

    I can’t ignore their sacrifice or judge it or romanticize it.

    I can let them into me, feel my breath and beating heart.



    Perhaps we have been iterating the true philosophy of the heart Dan.

    We aren’t even that much original.

    So much has been said and nothing.

    Others have tried and given their lives to expressing the heart in life authentically.

    That is my religion.

    The sun is in the sky and it beats as my heart.

    Who am I to even try, part of me says.

    Just a lazy blind donkey.

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