Immaterialism 7

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dan wrote:You’re still playing the old game of coulda, woulda, shoulda........  

You keep thinking you’re gonna outsmart the best possible world..... give it up, smelly.  

Just go with the damn flow........

Here, at OM, we are the peanut gallery...... critiquing Leonardo as he’s painting the Mona Lisa....... hey, pass the popcorn......

https://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com/2019/04/dan-t-smith.html ..... see what I mean......



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You Discordian merry maker Dan.

Punkin everyone.

Well you been punk’d old man by a smelly goat.

You deserved it.

Cosmic blow back.

I am in a blissful state of complex ignorance.

Straight on.

When it comes to eschatology, denial can be our best friend.

I've got a close eye on someone close to me

There may be something going on relevant to portals and disclosure with this person

It could be nothing

It could be something

This person is apparently being stalked by white rabbits

I told this person not to be afraid of the white rabbit, and that curiosity can sometimes be deadly

I told this person to let me know if he runs into any portals so I can report any relevant news to chicken little

Be careful what you wish for ... Gordon finds a portal

Yes, my children, be sure to put your galoshes on when you go out in the rain.

lol

When it rains it pours

Synchronicity brought this gem my way below from the Interwebs. You will hear about Dan’s BPW here and occasionally from me on whatever topic bubbles up.

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Isn’t the World Wrestling federation and our dance with Trump, like the Middle Way of mind?

Macho Man is like the self or mind. If you haven’t seen your true mind, when you are about to be pinned and look to the corner, nothing’s there! Nature can be a beautiful, cruel mistress for a sentient being clinging to the sense of self.

Hulk Hogan is like the no-self or no-mind. If you can awaken to the kensho of zen, suddenly you do see someone in your corner, and he’s ready to unleash a can of whoop ass on the harshness of reality, without any of the pitfalls or limitations of self!

Practicing the Middle Way is just like tagging out between the self and no-self as life suits you, not clinging to any one state or configuration of the true mind.

Here’s a quote by Bodhidharma where I think he talks about WWF tag team:

An uninhabited place is one without greed, anger, or delusion. Greed is the realm of desire, anger the realm of form, and delusion the formless realm. When a thought begins, you enter the three realms. When a thought ends, you leave the three realms. The beginning or end of the three realms, the existence or nonexistence of anything, depends on the mind. This applies to everything, even to such inanimate objects as rocks and sticks.

Whoever knows that the mind is a fiction and devoid of anything real knows that his own mind neither exists nor doesn’t exist. Mortals keep creating the mind, claiming it exists. And arhats keep negating the mind, claiming it doesn’t exist. But bodhisattvas and buddhas neither create nor negate the mind. This is what’s meant by the mind that neither exists nor doesn’t exist. The mind that neither exists nor doesn’t exist is called the Middle Way.

When the mortal mind appears, buddhahood disappears. When the mortal mind disappears, buddhahood appears. When the mind appears, reality disappears. When the mind disappears, reality appears. Whoever knows that nothing depends on anything has found the Way. And whoever knows that the mind depends on nothing is always at the place of enlightenment.

hobbit wrote:"Lets call jesus consciousness"
Wrote Smelly.

That's what I have been doing so all along.

This easter mullarky is exactly that, when the consciousness flows enable creation ( northern hemisphere) as they vary in difference between implosion over outrush and thus the consciousness ( jesus) arises from dormant to be alive again.

All the bible STORIES are this knowledge put into a control rule book for lemmings to adhere to.

hobbit

Jesus is a self sacrifice of divinity, of unity into plurality, followed by a resurrection which returns itself into primordial unity. In that moment of multiplicity, a lot can be gained and learned.

This isn't just a jesus thing. I think the most interesting version of this sacrifice and rebirth is the Orphic theology and the Mysteries of Dionysus. Or even Odin's self sacrifice where he sees the plurality as the Runic mysteries.

Now this one is very very very strange.

A very odd movie came out in 2012 called I Pet Goat II and there is a scene where Notre Dame falls.

Ummmmmmmmmm

The goat thing is strange too.



Whoa...



Shit...the scene from 5:30.

Ok...

Slowed down 10 times, the kek frog shows up dancing around the fire.



Hmmmmm

Portal opened tonight again.

Damned things just open and barf.



I don’t know the physics.

They are talking to the wrong goat.

99,

Are you suggesting that smelly is an agent of Discordianism?  

How could you?  smelly is just a smelly goat.  

smelly is a crypto ontologist, of the Hegelian variety.  

The modern western mind labors under the illusion of an ordained order.  Mainstream Christianity and the secular establishment are the upholders of this worldview.  

smelly is the necessary bridge from modernism to apocalypticism.  

smelly is trying, somewhat desperately, to immanentize the Eschaton.  Aren’t you smelly?  

I am also an immanentizer....... but of a decidedly different flavor...... where smelly denies, I embrace.  

If modernism is the thesis, smelly is the Antithesis.  We can never get to the Synthesis without first embracing the Antithesis and the smelly goat that come along with it.  

We must learn to love smelly, with all our hearts and all our minds.  

Of course, I am oversimplifying.  

In his more recent posts, smelly is trying to steal my Synthesis..... crypto ontologist that he is.  

The Buddhists and Hindus love to argue about Atman..... the soul, and while they’re busy arguing, the Muslims love to come in and blow them both up, thereby Making Allah Great Again.  

smelly and I have a better plan....... Synthesis..... don’t we, smelly?  

Admittedly, smelly is a reluctant synthesizer...... he’s an inveterate foot dragger.   Me.....?  I guess I’m Footloose and fancy free.  

smelly understands that our Quantum Souls can be dead and alive at the same time....... atman/anatta.   We accomplish this feat by means of Brahman/Nirvana........ don’t we, smelly?  

Metta is the synthesis that both smelly and I are after.

No. We are after Metametta.



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Ha.

What we are can’t be labeled

Chimera

The scape goat is back from the deep dark woods.

He has stories to tell, but mainly he is really smelly.

He gives a nod to the Discordians and Merry Makers.

For they have inherited the Kingdom of Men.

They don’t want it.

It is slowly fading away like a sand castle.

The evil that surged is dying off.

The next 10-20 years will be quite fun I feel.

As far as synthesis, I suppose if you can’t beat them, join them.

We are all playing the game of redemption.

OMG.......!

It is possible to lasso smelly......... just don’t expect smelly to get cozy by the fire place.  smelly goats do not make good lap dogs.

The Kingdom of Men.........  hmmm.......

Yes, it is fading away........ into Brahman/Nirvana.......

Or is it Metametta?  

It’s the prophetic soul vs. the mystical soul.  

It is the soul of cosmic compassion.  

And did smelly just use the R word....... redemption?  

All ye, all ye...... in free.......

I mean, let’s face it........ CC is a not so subtle from of Nihilism.

We love ourselves to death..... la petite mort.......

But what’s so small about the Eschaton?



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F2B interview of Rizwan Virk on his new book the simulation hypothesis. Different angle on immaterialism. Interesting to entertain the possibility that we are in an immaterial simulation embedded within a bigger(immaterial) reality. Being another layer removed from "ultimate" (immaterial) "reality" makes direct observation much less useful for probing "ultimate reality". He talks about how quantum mechanics works alot like a video game, that reality is rendered in real-time as it is observed, similar to video games, as it is more efficient in terms of computing power, and the planks constant as a correlary to pixel size....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPg-U9zzJgY&t=8848s

@A,

What’s wrong with the simulation hypothesis.......?  

Not much, evidently.  

It’s how we transform Kurzweil’s technological singularity into a Meta metta.  No?  

It’s Transhumanism on steroids.  

Transhumanism is another form of Nihilism.  It’s how we transcend our motley selves into Brahman....... with a smidgen of redemption/compassion.  

I guess we’d have to say that the Source/Telos can be nothing other than compassion...... which is a nod toward process philosophy.  

What’s so compassionate about banishing us from Eden?  

How can we lose ourselves before we find ourselves?  

How can we find ourselves before we lose ourselves?  

And who’s that guy blocking the door back home?  

He’s not letting any smelly goats through the Gate.  

He’s there just to remind us to be careful of what we wish for.  

What do you wish for smelly......?  

Let’s guess......... smelly makes No wish.  smelly just wants to go with the flow.  smelly has his dowsing rods out, and is following the underground stream...... or is that the river Styx?  

Maybe hobbit would know.......

Isn’t that what all the workplace gurus try to tell us........ just follow your passion..... follow your bliss....... while we are nickeled and dimed to death.  Well, that’s one way to go.  


3.......

Another way to get a handle on cosmic compassion is to consider relationalism........

To be is to relate.

Who can deny this?

But modernism is all about denying relationalism.



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dan wrote:@A,

What’s wrong with the simulation hypothesis.......?  

Not much, evidently.  

It’s how we transform Kurzweil’s technological singularity into a Meta metta.  No?  

It’s Transhumanism on steroids.  

Transhumanism is another form of Nihilism.  It’s how we transcend our motley selves into Brahman....... with a smidgen of redemption/compassion.  

I guess we’d have to say that the Source/Telos can be nothing other than compassion...... which is a nod toward process philosophy.  

What’s so compassionate about banishing us from Eden?  

How can we lose ourselves before we find ourselves?  

How can we find ourselves before we lose ourselves?  

And who’s that guy blocking the door back home?  

He’s not letting any smelly goats through the Gate.  

He’s there just to remind us to be careful of what we wish for.  

What do you wish for smelly......?  

Let’s guess......... smelly makes No wish.  smelly just wants to go with the flow.  smelly has his dowsing rods out, and is following the underground stream...... or is that the river Styx?  

Maybe hobbit would know.......

Isn’t that what all the workplace gurus try to tell us........ just follow your passion..... follow your bliss....... while we are nickeled and dimed to death.  Well, that’s one way to go.  



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I have known this lady for many years....

https://www.ishtarmasterchannel.com/ishtar

She travels the universe, but became very annoyed at this little hobbit when She stated that it is Me guarding the last vortex.

She is quite amazing.


Hobbit

And thus we find that Hobbit has his own secret Princess he's been hiding from us.

I would put my Princess up against ascended master Ishtar any day of the week.

hehe

not that it's a contest or anything....


Only kidding....mostly

Ascended Master Ishtar can join the party too

Let's just hope she has her galoshes at hand...

I do not wish Dan.

This is the gateless gate.

The gueardian cant stop one like this.

The way the guardian blocks you is to use your energy against you.

I’m blind, consciousness can see nothing it wants.

But nothing brings everything.

Just walk right through.

I know I have a life I should be true to.

Sometimes I let life overgrow, like my garden.

Life has fallow and active times.

I like a shaggy overgrown life.

Where we just blend in to what’s happening.

I’m not fighting for the right to do nothing.

I’m glad we are all here to see this togther actually.

Even the assholes.

Even you Dan.

Even delusional princesses.

Even befooled spies.

You are only spying on your self.

The master and pretender both, all are welcome.

But you have to walk the walk.

We walk amongst the clouds...



We walk on the ground...



My compassion is writing and living from being.

I have very little really to do with my life.

That realization was marvelous.

Same for everyone.

This is only getting better and better from my view.

Seeing how it all is already done for us.

Flowers fall before any foot step.

I was at war with ‘nothing’, no longer.

I don’t know when I stopped fighting it exactly.

Follow your bliss sounds like hella good advice.

I’d be happy to wager eternity.

We all get to not care and just abide.

In other news, turns out K-pop is part of saving the world from itself.

Gary seems to be right on with his instinct here.

Checkout the lyrics of the "Bulletproof Boy Scouts" - BTS

In the new world you don't talk or fight about what you want to do...

You do it!

“What is the you that you’ve dreamed of?
Who do you see in the mirror? I gotta say
Go on your path
Even if you live for a day
Do something
Put away your weakness”

“… Sick of the same day, the repeating days
Grown-ups and my parents
keep instilling confined dreams to me
Number one future career is a government worker?
It’s not a forced dream, a ninth inning relief pitcher
Throw a fast ball at the waste of time that is night study sessions
Rebel against the hellish society,
Dreams are a special pardon
Ask yourself about your dream profile
Become the main subject of your life
That has always been suppressed”



They have stood up and said enough!

Of course they make millions doing it.

But something deeper is happening here.

“A good house,
A good car,
Will these things bring happiness?
In Seoul
To the SKY,*
Will parents really be happy?

… Who is the one who made us into studying machines?
They classify us to either
Being number one or dropping out
They trap us in borders, the adults
There’s no choice but to consent
Even if we think simply,
It’s the survival of the fittest
Who do you think is the one who makes us step
On even our close friends to climb up? What?

Adults tell me that hardships
Are only momentary
To endure a little more, to do it later
Everybody say NO!
It can’t be any later
Don’t be trapped in someone else’s dream
We roll (We roll)
We roll (We roll) We roll”

Many Kpop suicides

Can’t let the idiots get you down.

Even Paul is getting in on it.



Trump is master of the idiots.

Aaron wrote:And thus we find that Hobbit has his own secret Princess he's been hiding from us.

I would put my Princess up against ascended master Ishtar any day of the week.

hehe

not that it's a contest or anything....


Only kidding....mostly

Ascended Master Ishtar can join the party too

Let's just hope she has her galoshes at hand...

It would be a great contest between Ishtar ( pronounced easter)
And Dan.

Ishtar is the story of jesus, before any story called jesus.

I'd back Ishtar.


hobbit

dan wrote:99,

Are you suggesting that smelly is an agent of Discordianism?  

How could you?  smelly is just a smelly goat.  

smelly is a crypto ontologist, of the Hegelian variety.  

The modern western mind labors under the illusion of an ordained order.  Mainstream Christianity and the secular establishment are the upholders of this worldview.  

smelly is the necessary bridge from modernism to apocalypticism.  

smelly is trying, somewhat desperately, to immanentize the Eschaton.  Aren’t you smelly?  

I am also an immanentizer....... but of a decidedly different flavor...... where smelly denies, I embrace.  

If modernism is the thesis, smelly is the Antithesis.  We can never get to the Synthesis without first embracing the Antithesis and the smelly goat that come along with it.  

We must learn to love smelly, with all our hearts and all our minds.  

Of course, I am oversimplifying.  

In his more recent posts, smelly is trying to steal my Synthesis..... crypto ontologist that he is.  

The Buddhists and Hindus love to argue about Atman..... the soul, and while they’re busy arguing, the Muslims love to come in and blow them both up, thereby Making Allah Great Again.  

smelly and I have a better plan....... Synthesis..... don’t we, smelly?  

Admittedly, smelly is a reluctant synthesizer...... he’s an inveterate foot dragger.   Me.....?  I guess I’m Footloose and fancy free.  

smelly understands that our Quantum Souls can be dead and alive at the same time....... atman/anatta.   We accomplish this feat by means of Brahman/Nirvana........ don’t we, smelly?  

Metta is the synthesis that both smelly and I are after.  

No.  We are after Metametta.  



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It looks like the Omniscient One is projecting his own self onto Smelly who is an agent of the OMF team of a covert independent espionage agency that works in cahoots with the US military that, in actuality, Smelly wants to escape from (probably into a portal).   But like you Dan, he's a crypto maniac masquerading as an wanna-be philosophical know-it-all though you already have a commanding lead at least in the category of biblical apocalyptic theories.

Smelly, on the other hand, who is handsome, young and fearless, has a commanding lead in the "cool" department which is something you will never be Dan no matter how hard you try. You are just YOU Dan, a jester from a time gone by before the invention of spray nozzle shower heads.
 
So when the world is being bombarded by brimstone and hail, massive floods and attacks by monsters of every sort exiting all of those ubiquitous portals that are here, there and everywhere.... , Smelly will be obliviously oblivious to all of that… sunning in a lawn chair in his back yard sipping on a margarita tripping away in a land that's far, far away that’s chock full of frolicking, adorable goats that fart beautiful rainbows where ever they go.

lol



I like how she is black

I also like how she is pretty

I also like how she calls herself a boy

I like sitting back in the shade of a tree on a hot summer day

Did someone say Summer and Margaritas?!



Synchronicities anywhere you look.

I think heaven is Jazz on a hot summer day.