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Post by dan on Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:24 am

First topic message reminder :

This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
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Post by dan on Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:55 pm

Thank you for the invitation, smelly.
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Post by dan on Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:14 pm

If the rumors about 2.0 continue to hold up, somebody may have to do something about it.

I’m not receiving enough information about 2.0 to stay ahead of the rumor curve.  

I have suggested that 1.0, with a little 2.0 mixed in surreptitiously, would be enough for reputable media coverage, thus the rumor about the ‘journal’, for instance.  

That strategem would constitute a significant step toward Disclosure.  People who have been following this story would understand that, very likely, there was some ‘secret sauce’ involved.  

I am unable to suggest a better way forward.  The BPWH is not going to make it, on its little lonesome.  


The council of seven.......?  

The council just showed up, without further ado.  Some members were already known...... as non-visitors.  What is going on?  What is the takeaway?  

There are unwitting visitors amongst us.  I’ve always claimed that we are all visitors..... to one degree or another.  The alleged ‘council’ would simply lend more credence to that speculation.  

Some sort of cosmic doppelgänger process might be involved...... avatars...... even in parallel. Stranger conjectures have been put forward, in the past.



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Post by @awestruckt on Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:10 pm

Yup, disclosure needs a little razzle-dazzle to break through the noise and wake people up from the drudgery of the daily grind. Then you can pull the ole' bait and switch from the shiny lights and nuts 'n bolts to physics and metaphysics.
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Post by U on Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:51 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.amp.html

https://youtu.be/Ex2r86G0sdc
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Post by Foot Mann on Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:53 pm

It is time for One to invest a Some. Where is Many One, with all this Fun. Is Dan for Real? Can he Fold or Deal? Where will POJG get his next Meal?
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Post by dan on Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:06 pm

Is Kevin in difficulty, again?
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Post by dan on Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:38 am

Princess Aliyah has graciously agreed to host a conversation/debate between Kevin and Frank, the purpose of which is to bring greater clarity so as to enable more effective progress with 0.9, 1,0, and 2.0. The rules of this initial conversation/debate will be similar to those for the most recent Presidential debate. Princess Aliyah will open the meeting with a short statement of purpose and summary of the rules. Kevin will begin with a 60 second summary of the current status. Frank will then have 60 seconds to respond and enhance the current status. Kevin will then have 30 seconds to ask a question. Frank will have 60 seconds to respond, and then 30 seconds to ask a follow-up question, and then Kevin will have 60 seconds to respond. Princess Aliyah will then read questions posed by the audience (Paul, Dan, and Doug) with both Kevin and Frank having 60 seconds each to respond. The Conversation/Debate will end with a final 60 second statement by Kevin followed by a 60 second statement by Frank.

This sounds hopefully auspicious, or auspiciously hopeful.  Take your pick.  

Perhaps we have finally turned a corner.  

If anything there be, sports fans, this entire operation has been overshadowed, from the git go.  We, here, are watching the shadows on the wall..... our magic/majic lantern show.....
Countin' flowers on the wall
That don't bother me at all
Playin' solitaire till dawn with a deck of fifty-one
Smokin' cigarettes and watchin' Captain Kangaroo
Now don't tell me I've nothin' to do

And, other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how are you enjoying the show?  

Are we out of the woods, yet?  

Well, if you connect the dots........ Holocaust, Hiroshima, WTC and LV, you do get a hopeful timeline.  Then you factor in the return of the bird tribes...... maybe we’re not in too bad a shape.  

I guess Kevin may be okay, after all.  Aren’t you?  


9:30(gmt-4).........

I know what my question will be........ tell us a little more about the ‘secret sauce’, Kevin. Does this have anything to do with quantum entanglement? Just wondering......

Or, perhaps, quantum entanglement has something to do with the secret sauce? It’s just so hard to know which end is up, these days.



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Post by @awestruckt on Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:34 am

Pretty please can this be webcast? G2M? Even if you mute all the phones...
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Post by Cuan Scott on Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:46 am

Dan,

I love the story and its apparent direction of travel. You are definitely the 'best possible narrator'

Looking forward to the next update.

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Post by Foot Mann on Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:11 pm

One of the candidates has pulled out of the debate. We are looking for an alternate candidate willing to debate the POJG under Presidential rules. Candidate must be well educated in physics and philosophy with well honed debate skills willing to challenge a great leader using polite socratic processes. Stage and/or film presence desirable. In the spirit of truth and understanding, the candidate should be familiar with some of the POJGs greatest performances such as Bram Stoker's Burial of the Rats.
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Post by dan on Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:06 am

So Frank has declined to debate with Kevin about the respec merits of 1.0 v 2.0.

Paul or Doug could simply pose questions to Kevin.   My question is already posed, although the terminology may need revision.  But there is no word from the Foot.

Bringing up version two, before the completion of version one, seemingly precludes the stepwise version of Disclosure that would have been possible with an exclusive focus on 1.0.  The MSM is now unlikely to touch the story without a push from the WH.  Such a push was definitely not within my understanding.  And said push would obviate the entire strategem of WoM/MoAPS.    

That leaves us twisting in the wind, once again.  

The whole point of 1.0 was to outsource Disclosure. With 2.0, Disclosure goes right back to the Source.

It comes back to the Princess and/or Charlie. I can head to the ranch, with a little more preparation, this time.



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Post by GrandCru on Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:47 am

What are the ties between Joe and Blue Origin?

Maybe Kevin knows more....

https://www.blueorigin.com/

Or perhaps Peter Beck, Director of Rocket Lab USA?

https://www.rocketlabusa.com/

Questions for Michael Moses of Virgin Galactic and & Dan Hart of Virgin Orbit.

Who is Nayviv Suarez? Who is Gerry Roston? Who is Wenin Tseng?
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Post by dan on Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:29 am

GC,

I haven’t heard of any such connections. Nor have I heard of any of the people you mention. I’m not a networker, by any estimation....... sorry.
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Post by @awestruckt on Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:31 am

Dan can you provide some hints as to the differences between the two versions?
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Post by GrandCru on Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:34 am

dan wrote:GC,  

I haven’t heard of any such connections.  Nor have I heard of any of the people you mention.  I’m not a networker, by any estimation....... sorry.  

Ask Kevin, Joe & Ron then.

There were connections there, I know for sure with Blue Origin. Whether they still exist is another question.

I know Ron can read this himself. Stop lurking and shed some light here.
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Post by dan on Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:47 am

GC,

Ron does not gossip....... in public, or with someone unknown to him.

If you explain the significance of what you are looking for, I might be able to help you with Ron, if that significance relates to the BPWH, plausibly.
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Post by GrandCru on Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:56 am



There is a connection between Kevin and numerous B level aerospace execs.

Much is going on behind the scenes, things are being shown and NDAs are being signed.

One needs only to put her ear to ground when you know what you're looking for.

Ron does not gossip, but I've seen him set the story straight here before, depending on circumstance.

I guess since you don't know, he'd be the only one to know if that significance relates to the BPWH. It likely does in my opinion.
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Post by GrandCru on Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:03 am

dan wrote:GC,  

I haven’t heard of any such connections.  Nor have I heard of any of the people you mention.  

The chance of you having no knowledge regarding these connections; plausible

The chance that NONE of these contacts have connections with Kevin and Joe; Zero.
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Post by dan on Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:04 am

GC,

Aerospace does not obviously connect to portals.  Portals, by definition, connect to the BPWH, certainly more so than sekret machines........ although they could be portals, in which case, they could not just be mass produced.

I agree with you about K’s and J’s connections.  But they don’t share information with me, certainly not the way that Ron might..... and for obvious reasons...... I am leaky as a sieve.  I abhor sekrets.  

Folks, probably like you, are totally oblivious as to the magnitude of any portal type disclosure.  It would instantly spell the end of capitalism.  The economy would transform overnight to a system of portal rentals.  The basis of all currency would become portal access.... overnight.    

Keep in mind that every last one of us is a walking portal.  

But...... there is a spectrum of access...... there is a spectrum of disclosability...... is the main point, with regard to political/socio-economic considerations.  

Do I look like a politician?  No, except for the fact that truth is decidedly interpersonal.  


3.........

The Princess and I have been discussing the Jewish problem.......

I agree that the Jews are the single biggest problem, relative to the socio-economics of Disclosure.

How so........?

The Jews remain on the cutting edge of the prophetic tradition.  

As such, and proportionately, they have the largest stake in that tradition, and the continuance thereof.  

Disclosure, by definition, spells the end there to.

There in lies the situation.......

What do you suggest?  How do we then proceed with Disclosure?  

You understand that there might be a very significant issue with trust.

What can I say........?

I can say that time appears to be wasting.  

Of course, again by definition, time is never wasted.  

But..... appearances do matter...... exactly how......?

Everyone is going to have to assimilate to the BPW.  

The Jews are in the position to lead....... either the assimilation or the resistance there to.  

With regard to this issue, it is very clear that there are two opposing camps...... reform v orthodox.  Of course, a very similar situation pertains to every other tradition...... but, once again, the Jews have placed themselves in the forefront of all such..... they are asking for it.  

And what exactly are the Jews asking for......?  

In effect, they are asking, unwittingly or not, to be on the forefront of Disclosure.  

Wonderful.  I might be their biggest obstacle..... to that end.

The irony might then well be that I am my own biggest obstacle...... and that would be just about par for this course.  

So, sports fans, it looks like we’ll all just have to suck it up.

Watch me suck........

However, no matter how much I suck, it’s liable to be a fait accompli......

We’re all just spectators.  Are we having fun?  

Please, pretty please, don’t all speak at once.  


4:30........

Chicken little as the Messiah....... God must love irony, otherwise she wouldn’t have made so much..... of it.  

That way all of us get to play the fool...... don’t knock it, until you’ve tried it.



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Post by hobbit on Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:25 am

Dan wrote …"sekrets"...twice
Why?
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Post by dan on Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:29 am

hobbit,

I’m just following in the footsteps of another fool....... Tom D.

Monkey see, monkey do........  I just can’t help it.......

What else is new.......?

When was the last time a Jew kissed an Arab in Hollywood?  It might have been with Omar Sharif...... and there were riots in the Middle East, if I’m not mistaken..... on both counts.  

It is as if Kahled were to have sex with Benjamin at the Dome of the Rock, at high noon....... go figure the odds......
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This is just too good to not pass along......
i’m not your friend, and i was advised not to speak with you, but I’m a fundamentally nice person, so I will simply and kindly suggest it’s in your, Frank’s, Jim’s, Firmage family’s, Pandolfi’s, Alber’s best interest to cease further communications w/me.
It’s just par for the course.......


6:30........

It may be that Joe will end up debating Kevin.  


12:45........

According to the latest information, it may be Eric H who will be debating Kevin.

Hi John,

Glad you got some sleep. Now get pumped up fast. Bring that special sword and whatever firepower you need. This is going to be like the five days you spent in the Yucatan. There will be so much heat no need to bring along a jeep heater. Just you and the dog on this mission. Kevin will fill you in shortly after your arrival. You are going into the Hive, and only two will survive.
Oh, dear, this sounds slightly serious.......


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Post by dan on Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:50 am

Here’s a potential breakthrough for you........

Joe and I have agreed that it is not entirely wacko to think that the Earth might be a holodeck.
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Post by hobbit on Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:55 am

dan wrote:Here’s a potential breakthrough for you........

Joe and I have agreed that it is not entirely wacko to think that the Earth might be a holodeck.  

Cap't Dan Smith of the star ship Earth.

All memories are within the more dominant memory, and each memory is symbiotic with the dominant memory.

We plough the fields and scatter the good seeds all around.

We reap as We sew.

https://www.songandpraise.org/we-plough-the-fields-and-scatter-hymn.htm





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Post by dan on Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:14 am

Yes, sports fans....... reporting from the holodeck.......  

If you would like to catch a glimpse of what’s going on, on the holodeck, you could do much worse than peruse the two recently mentioned books by TC and JL.........  where you get both the birds eye and the worms eye view of things.  

And I’m afraid to say to say I’m scrying yet another mnemonic in our future........

The mnemonic now has a geographical axis between the lake and the ranch, which is not entirely unlike the historical axis between Athens and Jerusalem.  

Before I get on to the new mnemonic, let’s review how we got here......

It all started, logically, with Euler’s Identity -1=e^ipi.  Every mathematician has his own proof of this identity, but not one of them can explain it....... but that is what I am always endeavoring to do..... keeping in mind that it’s not always about what you know.  

The next mnemonic comes as close as anything to explaining Euler...... AZO/X/QRP.  You can find links to most of the mnemonics if you just follow the bread crumbs, starting with the topic reminder post....

That particular one is truly the crux of the matter, so to speak.  

The first two mnemonics lead, logically, to the next three in one...... BPWH/SWH/CTC.    

The golden thread connecting all the mnemonics is just the logos, of course.  

In the latest installment, we have the l/r axis, which is more than a bit of a microcosm........ involving science and religion ala jl&tc.  

The rad axis is a more personal version of the lr axis.

Institutionally speaking we have the aviary/aquarium axis, which is the auxiliary to the D/C axis, respectively......... speaking of agencies.

Speaking of the harmonia abrahamica, we have tabernacles, mosques, synagogues, churches and temples all involved, of course.

It’s a veritable empire of angels.  

And we have the 0, the 1, the 2, the 3 and the 4...... all amply represented...... thank you very much.  

RA&D are maintaining a very tenuous hegemony....... thank you very much.  

Then there are the two main outlets...... the journal and the lady.  

What we can’t figure is how jl are going to play the lr axis.  

The lr axis can also be couched in terms of the two versions 1&2.... one is more mechanical and the other is more phenomenological.  

We might also think of the lr axis as representing the two sides of a portal....... ours and theirs.  

When I went out to visit, the other day, I was stepping into a.......
you name it.  

It’s about little green men and earth angels.  

Button, button....... who’s got the button?  Is it Charlie or Charlene?  

It’s all rather alchemical and entangled.  

The mystics are watching all the wannabe witches running around with our heads chopped off.  

It’s time to speak of many things...... of cabbages and kings.  

Is the lady going to stick her finger back in the hive?  Or who’s going to play the little dutch boy?  I guess we can make a beeline to ShangriLa....... the princess knows the way back...... you can hear the whistle blow, a hundred miles.....

I’d love to see an article in popular mechanics, but it may not still exist...... maybe popular science...... how about people?  Who would volunteer for that story?  This is job for ghost busters...... myth busters...... you name it.  


4(gmt-4)..........

What we have here is a Rolodex problem......

Who are we gonna call?  Button, button, who’s got the button?  

The obvious answer is donny.  But he is probably the last one we’d actually want to call.  

Who’s next........?  

There are the top ufo opinion leaders.  

I’m taking to Pkisfake....... well, he’ll call me back in a bit.  



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