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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 am

First topic message reminder :

This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
should be substituted here......

............
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:09 pm

smelly wrote:
There be monsters here, we are the monsters, but there are bigger ones who are growing due to our dualistic refusal to acknowledge them.

We avoid a shared Apocalypse, by each of us having a mini one and each of us becoming whole.

...

Wow!

Unpacking this is a trip.


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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:12 pm

I took the psychedelic path to see what can’t be visually seen.

Now I don’t need them because every moment is whole and I can just let it happen.

I loved my 2 psychedelic years, no doubt.

I have that all connection feeling which brings another feeling...

Our ancient All Clear feeling.

I am making the All Clear sound.

It’s safe to come out of the trees my brothers and sisters.

What one finds, we all find.

All my love always...muppets Wink

Straight on...clear sailing into eternity.
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:25 pm

It is all clear to spiral out into eternity.

Wheee!
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:27 pm

We don’t need explanations.

We have to become ok with uncertainty and yes, pick what is useful from within and without.

We are reconnecting to the soul of the world.

Every moment can be Paradise in Hell.

So there is no theory of everything science could ever ever find in its current myopic state, but it is useful.

But it is not primary.

Materialism on its own is dead.

The rise of the mystic rationalist is at hand.

We are returning now to Parameides whole view of the world soul.
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:32 pm

“There Is No Truth. There Is Only Perception.” – Gustave Flaubert

"Prudence is a rich, ugly old maid courted by Incapacity. Exuberance is Beauty." -William Blake

No dragon soars too high, if he soars with his own wings.

Prisons are built with stones of beliefs and concepts, brothels with bricks of Religion and isms.

What are the limitations of your perception?

Root them out and burn them, then turn their ashes to diamonds.

Do not avoid the shared apocalypse. Breathe it in and become it and watch it unfold now. Do not fear the great die off but drink it like your favorite tea and let it become you.

Spiral out straight on
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:58 pm

Beauty transcends the law.

We know our world will end naturally based on observations.

We know each of us will die.

When and how we each die is our choice, but we are just killing our duality.

We can die before dying and I find this a better state of consciousness than waiting in fear for my atoms to be separated.

Connected to the mythos, death is overcome.

Hey, thanks to whatever force has brought all this to be.!

I really appreciate being here now.

How simple this is and clear.

What a mountain though to climb to get to the coasting into eternity.

Just ease into it.

Put your head on the block and let the Green Man cut it off.

Pay attention to what is being pointed at here, follow the hints.

Because you don’t know, as much as you think you know, you don’t.

And you won’t understand this, but you can make that meaningful for you connected here now.

This is the peace that surpasses understanding.

Have fun.

Straight on.


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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:16 pm

"Welcome, noble youth, that comest to my abode on the car
that bears thee tended by immortal charioteers! It is no ill
chance, but justice and right that has sent thee forth to travel
on this way. Far, indeed, does it lie from the beaten track of
men ! Meet it is that thou shouldst learn all things, as well
the unshaken heart of persuasive truth, as the opinions of
mortals in which is no true belief at all. Yet none the less
shalt thou learn of these things also, since thou must judge
approvedly of the things that seem to men as thou goest
through all things in thy journey. "
-Parmenides and The Goddess

We have come full circle.

Reading Parmenides.... biting my own tail back through history, then swallowing that tail.... choking and laughing at the same time.

Parmenides is not in the past, Parmenides lives on now in eternity.

"One path only is left for us to
speak of, namely, that It is. In it are very many tokens that
what is, is uncreated and indestructible, alone, complete,
immovable and without end. Nor was it ever, nor will it be; for
now it is, all at once, a continuous one."
-Parmenides

It Is.

At once the mask of all the muppets fell to the earth and all that remained was a single grain of sand drifting in the ocean.

The sand drifted and sunk to the ocean floor and was swallowed by an oyster, who after many years transformed that single grain of sand into the most precious pearl.



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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:58 pm

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Guest on Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:39 pm

So what’s the deal with this Tom C book?  Give me a synopsis.


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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:50 pm

I summarized the book in my long post.

Check it out if it resonates maybe.

Tom has spent 20 years digesting the work of several mystical philosophers and psychologists like Jung, Coleridge, Hillman and my new favorite Henry Corbin.

He knows myth.

I think this comparative research from someone who is a mystic scientist is rare and very very valuable to help map our way through this current transition time.

We are Returning to wholeness.
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:56 am

If Charlie is approximately the same as Foot, it does open up several new lines of inquiry......

One of the lines concerns the 98% of junk that we carry around in our genes.

Rest assured that I don’t believe in genes, but, if I did, I’d be thinking that the 98% was chrysalis bound, so to speak....... I mean, talk about your high rent district, that would be it.  

Yes, the emerging chrysalis is the projection of the Monad onto history.  The 98% junk is just our ticket stub to the wedding feast in the sky....... you know, row and seat number.  

God has numbered every hair on our head...... tell me about it.  

So then what.......?

It’s all over?

Our free will is mainly involved in the _art_ of jumping between levels......between portals...... you name it....... painting by the dots.  

It may also have to do with the penny arcade metaphor...... is my turn about up?  donny’s was up long ago.  He’s definitely playing on borrowed time.  The role and the actor sometimes get a bit confusing.  

Tom C has got the Incarnation bit down pretty good...... I just can’t tell if he’s got a clue about the chrysalis.



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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:43 am

I’d put my mystic philosophy up against any muppet and we would eat their lunches.

David Deutsch, like the rest, is only playing with half a deck.

Cowards Wink

It just don’t mean a thing...if you ain’t got that swinggggggg.



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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by U on Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:48 am

Dan, how much of a connection does Charlie (Ron) have with the reptilians? Has he ever told you? It's been hinted at a couple of times.
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:51 am

Reptile wrote:Dan, how much of a connection does Charlie (Ron) have with the reptilians? Has he ever told you? It's been hinted at a couple of times.

This guy is tuned in.

I’d listen.

You can smell it on Max Wink

He’s been down Under, get it?!

Bahahaha

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:58 am

How absurd that thoughts in Psyche, that’s us, could deny their fundamental nature as such.

Do you know how funny it is a thought has convinced itself it’s material?

The whole cosmos is laughing and crying at them at the same time.

This is truly Hell.

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:38 pm

I’m having too much fun to blog.  I catch you all in a bit.........

I’ve been having lengthy conversations with desert dweller, Grand Cru and nunia........ they should be covering for me.

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:34 pm

Reptile wrote:Dan, how much of a connection does Charlie (Ron) have with the reptilians? Has he ever told you? It's been hinted at a couple of times.

The reptilian shit is so fake it's laughable.

Only a true confused muppet would even mention it.

I would question any who talk about reptilians as either confused, dumb, or intentionally mixing nonsense with truth in order to keep the truth suppressed.

Which one are you?
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:53 pm

Aaron,

Ron has more to do with amphibians.

Me..........? I only know the human side.

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by jofo on Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:59 pm

Aaron wrote:
Reptile wrote:Dan, how much of a connection does Charlie (Ron) have with the reptilians? Has he ever told you? It's been hinted at a couple of times.

The reptilian shit is so fake it's laughable.

Only a true confused muppet would even mention it.

I would question any who talk about reptilians as either confused, dumb, or intentionally mixing nonsense with truth in order to keep the truth suppressed.

Which one are you?

there is no truth, just what people think
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:15 pm

jofo wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Reptile wrote:Dan, how much of a connection does Charlie (Ron) have with the reptilians? Has he ever told you? It's been hinted at a couple of times.

The reptilian shit is so fake it's laughable.

Only a true confused muppet would even mention it.

I would question any who talk about reptilians as either confused, dumb, or intentionally mixing nonsense with truth in order to keep the truth suppressed.

Which one are you?

there is no truth, just what people think

Dan, your are only talking to yourself.

jofo, the real is fundamental and comprehensible rationally in part, and then there is the part beyond understanding.
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Post by Aaron on Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:17 pm

The truth is what is happening in this moment.

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:26 pm

The Frog Footman... yes frogs are amphibians.

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by AtomicBrando on Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:34 pm

Cy banned smelly.

Bahahahahahahaha

I love smelly pisses her off!

Laughing laughing laughing

She thinks she’s a real girl on a mission.

She doesn’t understand much, what a nasty muppet.

She doesn’t get the joke is always on her.

If smelly ain’t pissin off stupid muppets, he ain’t doing his job.

That’s why he’s smelly, duh.

OMG too funny.
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Post by Aaron on Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:56 pm

She needs to see the video of Max down under you posted.

That guy bridges the gap between cy and smelly.
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by GrandCru on Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:09 pm

dan wrote:Aaron,

Ron has more to do with amphibians.

Me..........?  I only know the human side.  

.

Dan, quite a pleasure speaking with you.

Aaron, to our point of 10 billion worlds...maybe the answer is it's been our 10 billionth time around on the carousel?

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