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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:14 am

    I’m down with being conscious, in league with my self.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:56 am

    The Goats of Cold Mountain are amused by the council of seven visitors.

    The Goats of Cold Mountain call them the council of seven pretenders.

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    Post by dan Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:25 am

    Aaron,

    Council of pretenders..........?  

    Maybe, but what are they pretending?  Kevin has been chosen to be the head of the council.  Aliyah is supposed to be one of the other members.......
    The Princess was very supportive of his proposal to terminate the human experiment as a failure.
    Hmmm........  But maybe, Princess, it was good enough for gummint work.  


    By the way, I’m not playing hooky, I’m just being absorbed by the last chapter of Jason Louv’s book......


    5:10.........

    Very good........ I liked Jason’s final chapter. It leaves us twisting in the wind........


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:31 pm

    No one saves or condemns me but me.

    The 7 Dwarves can do as they like, all playing their own game.

    I am my own universe and they have no authority whatsoever here.

    We do for ourselves on Cold Mountain.

    We haul our own water and sing our own songs.

    Though somehow a Mountain is here, so that’s lucky.

    Whatever the wind brings, we abide.
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    Post by dan Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:13 pm

    Well, Kashmir supports our side.  

    But what is our side.......?

    The human drama is being brought to its natural, best possible conclusion.  But thanks for your suggestions, Aliyah and Kevin.  Feel free to contribute your suggestions at any time.


    6:30..........

    We have desecrated the Temple of the human soul, and in the place of the Holy of Holies we have set up Choronzon, the Abomination of Desolation, the true Lord of the Aeon. Choronzon, the shattered reflection of us all, an idiot god cackling upon the central throne of the world soul that he has made his commode. Like this, mankind shall suffer until the end of the aeon. Christ is coming, and with him he shall bring an Empire of Angels. JASON LOUV, CITY OF ANGELS

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    Post by SurfBum Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:31 pm

    flower

    The visitors are nothing without the humans.

    If there were no humans there would be no visitors.

    The humans are the visitors.

    The painter and the painting.

    Lucifer Was courageous enough to stand up for Adam and Eve, the humans, to show them they had everything they needed already and could be as the gods.

    What does it mean to be as the gods?

    It simply means to be human, there is no difference.

    All is One and all is as it should be Now.

    Anyone who thinks the human experiment is a failure is confused.

    Catch up now!

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    You can play your 7 headed dragon game.

    The Goats won’t get in the way of the dragon, but they do grin at the amusement of all games, even their own.
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    Post by Cuan Scott Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:30 pm

    smelly wrote:

    I found out about that book Gary mentioned in his book and Bannon and Putin’s interest from a Gary interview.

    Smelly,

    are you referring to Evola's book?
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:55 pm

    Dan, it’s not just Angels, some goats and Dragons might be there too. I don’t think many sheep though, we eat them Wink

    CS, yes.

    What is it with this streak of facism through the esoteric?

    That is not how you end up if you develop yourself.

    I think these the Black Brothers.

    There is much mention of the White Brotherhood, but Bhodidharma and I fart on them.

    The Sun rises from Darkness, the ultimate Light.

    It’s the Marriage of Heaven and Hell, the right AND left eye open.

    You will be as a joyful child after finding the Way.

    These dark ones are filled with dark fantasies.

    You can only make a fool’s bargain with the Devil.

    That Bannon would play with these forces invites chaos.

    He’s no Jedi.

    I assume we now have the best amount of chaos.

    I’ll say one thing for Trump, he was born to play his part.

    And so were all of us.

    Don’t let the big teeth scare you.

    It’s all a show.

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    Post by Cuan Scott Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:33 pm

    Thanks Smelly Smile

    Not a book I have read.

    Indeed tis interesting days..
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    Post by dan Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:18 pm

    smelly and Aaron think that all of this is pretend.  Tell me that, after you have read Jason’s book.

    It looks as though we may be getting a crash course in western magic...... thanks to Aliyah.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:03 pm

    I’d say it’s more of a play.

    The play is real, but it is just a play.

    The play has everything you could imagine in it.

    The best possible play.

    Play your visitors/alien portal games. This goat prefers the naked straight forward and authentic approach but he also doesn’t judge or make distinctions on which approaches are better or worse.

    It’s all flavors of tea.

    This goat will stay out of the way of the visitors and let them do their thing without giggling out loud.

    We can all learn to play together harmoniously without spoiling each other’s fun and we can all have our own ways of finding those in need of disclosure and pointing them to themselves.

    We can work together harmoniously. We have the same goals and motivations at the end of the day, to bring unity and peace to the worlds.

    Let the goats and visitors walk together hand in hand towards a transition from a separation of church and state to that of a unified vision.

    Straight on.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:33 pm

    Transition complete.

    The world or humanity is not meant to be perfect, it is meant to be whole.

    Straight on.

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    Post by SurfBum Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:41 pm

    There is a story about Confucius, who one day met Laozi, a great Chinese philosopher. Laozi said, “Sir, what is your system?” And Confucius said, “It is charity, love of one’s neighbor, and elimination of self interest.”

    Laozi said, “Stuff and nonsense. Your elimination of self is a positive manifestation of Self. Look at the Universe. The stars keep their order, the trees and plants grow upward without exception, the waters flow, be like this. All your nonsense about elimination of Self is like beating a drum in search of a fugitive.”

    When the police arrive on the first floor, the thieves have gone up to the second. And so to the third, and finally up to the roof. So when the ego is about to be unmasked, it immediately identifies with the higher self. It goes up a level.

    You can’t outwit the Devil, but you can surprise him when you live so that the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:32 pm

    I know my own Magick Dan, it has to be personal and exercised to be real or it just doesn’t mean anything, just a story, which is just a hint.

    So whatever I experience and develop in my self or you do or John Dee or Jason or the Princess or goats, our experience is uniquely our own.

    If you have gone home, you will seek to connect to other worlds, there are many worlds, many houses.

    Dan, you try to understand the experience through the shared aspect, but that’s just one eye open.

    Reading Jason is a good step toward all this.

    Engage Jason, he is an influencer, he is smart.

    It is within us.

    The narrative will always be changing, always, to be is to change.

    We are all connected and only related things can be known.

    You all can do as you like.

    I share from what it is deeply felt, my doors are always open, my lights are always on, my house is open and it has many rooms. All are invited to know themselves in me.

    Personally, I take responsibility for my self within the flow of change.

    I know what to do.

    I know when I’m naughty and nice.

    Let’s hope people don’t just read books, but follow the pointing toward silence, let us hope they can connect to and then begin to learn from silence.

    Until that begins, they are just walking around it.

    Dive in.

    The water is amazing and only your experience of it will matter for you.

    Have a nice swim.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:42 pm

    Looks like I'm going to have to do a bit of reading to catch up with Dan. I'm only about half way through Louv.

    Though this title caught my eye a few months ago. Now I'm considering reading it from a slightly different angle.

    If I find what I think I might find, I may have to reread the entire Chronicles of Narnia.

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:48 pm

    The kids are so funny in their anarchic post-modern kinda way, where is Kerouac?

    http://www.duncantrussell.com/episodes/2018/2/23/jason-louv
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:54 pm

    smelly wrote:
    Let’s hope people don’t just read books, but follow the pointing toward silence, let us hope they can connect to and then begin to learn from silence.

    Until that begins, they are just walking around it.

    Dive in.

    The water is amazing and only your experience of it will matter for you.

    Have a nice swim.

    In other words, stop talking about the way and just catch up now and be the way.

    No need to explain the way to others when you just live it.

    Dropping all idols is the only way to live it now.

    Idols can sneak up on you in many forms,

    They could be books, or quotes, or old masters, or new masters, or teachers, or symbols, or concepts or evaluating and comparisons, or the other shore, or even your self.

    Drop it all and attach yourself to nothing.

    Dive into relaxed concentration on what is flowing freely now.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:17 pm

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:22 pm

    You matter. Everyone else matters. Accept it.

    All the teaching and esoteric or yoga or any of it are just for different types of minds that need a challenge.

    All stories about you.

    Jason says it, you can go meet all the teachers, but until it’s real for you, what is it?

    You have to do it.

    You have to feel the weight of it on your shoulders.

    Don’t get lost in the map.

    Go get lost in the maps.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:31 pm

    We find what we lost in the loosing of what we found.

    A dragon and pearl in a wave of silence.

    The rhythm of the body, the melody of the mind, and the harmony of the soul, create the symphony of life.
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    Post by dan Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:33 am

    Aaron has texted his misgivings about playing smelly’s game with the Princess.  Yes, I play, too.  

    We can pretend Aliyah is a visitor, but is she really a visitor?

    First, we need to ask, could Aliyah be a visitor...... or could anyone?

    It’s easy enough for me to say that we are all visitors, but, clearly we are implying something a bit more unusual.


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    Post by GSB/SSR Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:48 am

    Dan, you have not addressed my contention that you are subconsciously using location uncertainty in Many Worlds/Multiverse to justify your SWH/BPWH, which is suggested by your denial of FREE WILL.


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    Post by dan Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:02 am

    I’m sorry, Gary, I’m having trouble getting my head around your question.  

    You seem to be alluding to a particular aspect of the Many Worlds cosmology with which I’m not familiar.  A link might help.

    You seem to be referring to...... self locating uncertainty.  

    I will have to study up on it.......

    I love the Sleeping Beauty problem, which is one aspect.......



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    Post by SurfBum Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:58 am

    I’m not sure what you mean by Smelly’s game...

    Calling Aliyah a visitor is not Smelly’s game.

    Is she a human or is she not?

    Did she come to earth the same way everyone else did, through a human birth canal?

    The story about an invisible pod floating on a river is cute but you could twist a regular old human birth into anything you wanted with enough imagination.

    The question is why?

    I assume the reason is to attract drone bees to the pollen/honey.

    You are free to do that as you please, I won’t comment about it any further.

    I just think anyone trying to attract or trap anyone else is still a little confused is all.

    It seems very planned and calculated with a focus on a desire to change the future.

    Why not just act spontaneously and authentically with the focus on the now now now?

    That seems more natural and authentic.

    But who the hell cares anyway....

    I really don’t care.

    Do it the way you feel works for you and I will do it the way I feel works for me.

    Look, I’ve gotten myself to talk about my opinions again.

    Sneaky bastard that choronzon and dispersion.

    Okay, back to focusing on what matters...and that isn’t whether or not you set a honey trap or not.

    Do what though wilt shall be the whole of the law.

    Relaxing into trusting others as they feel to be and do.

    Straight on.

    ....

    In truth, I’m still catching up to now.

    When you are caught up and fully present in the now now now, you would naturally trust others as they feel to be and do now.

    Okay, caught up to now...again...straight on.

    This OMF is really good training grounds for turning muppets into magicians.

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:06 am

    If she is embodied, she is as petty and silly as any Human Being is and can be.

    Life is absurd basically, which is the game.

    And don’t know what Smelly’s Game is.

    I’m a bear, I take the honey I want in goops and she nor anything can stop me.

    In the shared spaces, it’s everyones game.

    It doesn’t belong to anyone Wink

    We don’t speak FOR the wind, we are filled with it or we resist it.

    We float in the water or we drown.

    She will have had to do her own great work within herself.

    The question is has she illuminated herself?

    If she has, I can smell it, that is all.

    Pretenders better avoid me, I’lll warp your mask if you get too close.

    I’ll melt it off your non-existent face Wink

    I use my powers as a check only, I do not assert or seek anything, haha.

    Awareness has no agenda.

    If someone has a plan, I’d keep my distance.

    It has to be this way, which I can’t explain to you.

    I’ll just wave my hands and drop some smoke.


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