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The anti-immaterialist

Are There Many Worlds? David Deutsch in conversation with Markus Arndt

GSB/SSR wrote:Are There Many Worlds?

Who is asking the question?

When is asking the question?

How is asking the question?

Why is asking the question?

Gary,

As you may recall, I generally consider the many worlds theories to be the reductum ad absurdum of materialism/physicalism.  

I mean, how many worlds can fit on the head of a pin?  

And please explain to us the ontology of an unobservable universe.  

For instance, would the number of unobservable universes be countable or uncountable?  Does Mad Max have an answer for us?  

There is much more evidence for the existence of angels than there is for unobservable universes.  And, if I’m not mistaken, Gary, I believe you have actually witnessed such beings.  But I also know that you love to play the devil’s advocate.  


And there is a news flash in here somewhere.......

The device at the lake is now being described as a manufacturable actuator..... over my protest, mind you.

And, yes, like almost every other artifact, it is liable to be weaponized.



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Weapon shmeapon

The device at the lake is a joke.

Authenticity demands great focus.

Few have the focus for final participation.

shrug.

Who are they trying to trap?

I wonder if they know...

U get a gyro!
And U get a gyro!
And U get a gyro!
- maybe you could get Oprah in on this manufacturable actuator, like a sort of cross promotional deal.

Weapons are the bearers of bad news;
all people should detest them.

The wise man values the left side,
and in time of war he values the right.
Weapons are meant for destruction,
and thus are avoided by the wise.
Only as a last resort
will a wise person use a deadly weapon.
If peace is her true objective
how can she rejoice in the victory of war?
Those who rejoice in victory
delight in the slaughter of humanity.
Those who resort to violence
will never bring peace to the world.
-Tao Te Ching, 31

YES!!!

5 SCALY REPTILES TO YOU SIR!!!!

Dan: David addresses the person/personal in many worlds https://youtu.be/kNAR74SWOho?t=681

And then there is the physics of time travel ...

dan wrote:For instance, would the number of unobservable universes be countable or uncountable?

'Unobservable universe' is oxyMORONIC; even the so-called platonic realm only exists as an observation within consciousness.

Mathematicians will continue embarrassing themselves in such ways to avoid acknowledging the simple, self-evidential truth that consciousness is the basis of all reality until you and Foot Mann get your act together and give them permission to stop lying.

Hurry up!

"A truthful liar
Will make neutral vibrations
Hear, collapse the wave"

People have accidents and damage their brain and afterwards lose cognitive functions and can't talk or remember who they are or recognise faces, yet somehow people believe that after they die and their brains are eaten by worms they will somehow magicaly be frolicking in paradise and be able to recognise grandma and grandpa on the other side.

Let go of all hope.
Death is final.
Build your little ship of death.

Humans come up with the wildest fantasies to make them feel comfortable about the unknown future and about death, but the present is already a wild unknown mystery, why complicate it with fantasy?

Best to stay focused on what is real.

Thanks for that link, Gary. 'Proof of Heaven' is the book that got me interested in quantum mechanics, which led me to ufos, which led me to consciousness, which led me to myself, which now leads me like gravity to a river.

I'm looking forward to watching that video.

Aaron wrote:
Best to stay focused on what is real.

This is a surprising statement from you, Aaron.


"Notice what you are
A material reason
How do I know this…"

Also, I can't stop writing haikus. I've written over 40 in the last 3 days. What is wrong with me?
I blame you and smelly and dan

SR,

Hurry up.........?

We have all the time in the world.  

Every day I get smarter.  You can, too.  

In the meantime, we need to save Aaron from his despair unto death.  It will be easy.  Just watch.  Just participate.  Saving Aaron will be the same as saving the world.  We just go with the saving flow...... of getting smarter...... together.



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Wrote this one the other day, that made me think of Dan and this place afterward:

"Experience gives
A stepping stone to the bee
The hive is alive"

cw,

Experience......?

I think not.  It’s wisdom we need to attend to.  

Bear with.......

I got wiser last night..... see if you can, too.

I’m no longer a monist nor a monotheist.

I’m not the Antichrist. I’m the anti-Yaweh.



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cwallatruth wrote:

Aaron wrote:
Best to stay focused on what is real.

This is a surprising statement from you, Aaron.


"Notice what you are
A material reason
How do I know this…"

I learn quick
You should try it
My frame rate is up near dragonflies now

I need no saving old man
I saved myself already
Despair is for the confused
Keep trying....

Aaron,

If you are not in despair, you are sowing despair.  I don’t think you want to do that.  I don’t think you need to do that.

Listen up.......

The I AM was our biggest ‘mistake’ in history.  

It led directly to the Cartesian Cogito.  

Obviously, Yahweh is the Demiurge.  

The Truth is WE ARE.


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I only sow seeds of naked honesty.
If that is despairing for some so be it.
I play pretend everywhere else cause I am forced to, but the disclosure blog demands honesty and naked awareness.

Final participation demands great focus

I Am is the same as We Are

There is no difference whatsoever

Dan is a confused monkey with his new mission as the anti-YWHW

To tame your monkey mind listen to the lion’s roar.