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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:09 pm

First topic message reminder :

[The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
should be substituted here... ]
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:56 am

Maybe.

I don't know.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:58 am

Hmmm........

And maybe I do know........ who’s been paying attention, and who not.

Believe it or not, you guys, but there are actually people out there who have a need to know these things.  

Most of those who need to know have already been briefed.

Now is the time when the rest of us get in on that act.

This, my friends, is Disclosure.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:15 am

Hmmm...

I see your point

You are smarter than you look Dan

I guess they can teach a young dog old tricks too.

There may or may not be others who need to know.

I don't know.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Guest on Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:48 am

dan wrote:Hmmm........

And maybe I do know........ who’s been paying attention, and who not.

Believe it or not, you guys, but there are actually people out there who have a need to know these things.  

Most of those who need to know have already been briefed.  

Now is the time when the rest of us get in on that act.  

This, my friends, is Disclosure.  


(cont.......)

"The only problem that we have so far, is that we have no problems" - Dan

Dan,

Are the rumors true that there will be more info dropped in 2019? Any insight?


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:51 am

No one needs know anything, bahahaha.

I love when you expose your confusion Dan.

I know what I need to know.

I really can’t worry about what anyone else is doing or not doing.

The eschaton is part of an evil work of fiction by the Princes of Evil, but it will work out in the end.

It was smelly goats before all this and it will be smelly goats after.

Waste your time on idolatry all you like Dan, that’s your path to nowhere.

I have the strength of Silence, no eschaton needed, have fun.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:04 am

I will determine what I do or do not need and no one else, not even Smelly.

Sometimes I need help remembering I have everything I need already.

Teamwork makes the dream work.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:42 am

I just said pay attention.

If I had been a member of some secret govt group, I would have long ago quit and I would be doing just what I am.

It is true we have all the answers we need ourselves.

We still have to live in matter and we do need help here.

It’s always good to compare notes.

Compassion naturally increases as one expands, as does creativity and intelligence, the ego can over inflate as well, avoid that or don’t.

You simply will start making all the best moves judging none of it.

Then it becomes simple to see others walking this way or not, it’s funny to watch some bump around like you used to.

Half of the grin is evil.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:50 am

The more solitary we are the more expansive we become and the more freely our compassion can flow unobstructed.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Reptile on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:51 am

You heard it here first folks! Smelly was in charge of a secret group in the government! The results of a mad experiment to uplift a goat to super intelligence! The first of it's kind "Homo Aegagrus", after this profound revelation on the OpenMindsForum, the UFO Community was forever changed!

Edit: Clearly this struck a nerve, as a technical error caused the connection to time out yet the post duplicated. Proof that you cannot stop the flow of truth!
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:05 am

Aaron wrote:The more solitary we are the more expansive we become and the more freely our compassion can flow unobstructed.

Silence.

But not silence like muppets understand it.

It means humility.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:06 am

smelly wrote:
Aaron wrote:The more solitary we are the more expansive we become and the more freely our compassion can flow unobstructed.

Silence.

But not silence like muppets understand it.

It means humility.
Duh.

Wink
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:07 am

Rep, perhaps, haha.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:25 am

The symbolic and real act of gaining knowledge and communication with your guiding true will is real.

Once accomplished, strap in for a rocket ride beyond time and space.

Then you come to the edge of the Abyss and the guiding Daimon removes its wings that were covering you.

Then you have to jump.

Now after all that nonsense, you come upon a gardeners shed and some gardening tools and you take up the work of tending this magnicificent garden on the other side of the hedge.

You find some old books that give hints about how to tend the plants.

Sometimes you use vitriol on the roots to cause the plant to grow stronger in reaction.

Sometimes you use a sharp blade.

You must weed mercilessly.

Sometimes you water and fertilize.

You talk to them sometimes, but you always give them the emotions they need.

Plants seem very very stupid, but they are not stupid.

You seem to have been given a task to plant all your seeds.

You plant all the seeds you find in your bag that was hanging on the hoe when you arrived at the shack.

I’ll tell you what happens next when I know Wink

It’s easy enough to guess, properly cared for, that Garden is gonna grow!!!
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:09 pm

Tending the garden is my only true will.

I am always tending my garden effortlessly with perfect care.

Nobody, not even the J-man, can personify this beautiful experience.

All of time exists all the time.

All things in my experience personify my experience, the J-Man is but a small part of that whole.

I Am the personification of it all Now.

We use idolatry as training wheels until we don't.


I feel to clarify something....

Earlier I said we should open the flood gates of disclosure but that doesn't mean drop an A bomb on the world of course.

I guess all that means is we put a billboard up on the freeway that says "fresh local honey next exit" and sit patiently for those who are ready to show up.....if there even are any others who have a need....I can only assume there might be some out there who are ready.

All of this sounds very contrived though. There is no single formula I think. The flow is the flow and it will takes us where we need to go when we need to go there.

Perhaps the rattling cage by the Lake could be one of many billboards out there....

This blog is another pollen trail, obviously....

How perfect is a UFO blog to set up a pollen trail on...

Maybe there are other UFO blogs out there we could spread out on...

Wu wei


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Cuan Scott on Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:53 pm

Smelly, Aaron

for you guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRO2_S1rdSs
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:05 pm

Pretty song.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:43 pm

I started looking at other UFO forums thinking I might join one and have some fun......

Not feeling it.

This is where it's at.

Shrug.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:02 pm

Smelly is right.

There is nobody else.

It's just me.

No disclosure is needed for anyone else.

It is all lies.

I'm 100% convinced I am dreaming.

Welcome to my dream muppets.

I Am all that is real.

Bwahahahaha

What a setup!

The illusion is over.

No missions needed.

No disclosure needed.

I'm walking naked.

No more pretending.



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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Foot Mann on Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:04 pm

The Lake has Dried, the Disruptor Lied, and Joe was tied. Now Joe is free, POJG is not Me, and the disruptor was stung by a Bee.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:07 pm

Syncretism is very seductive to the mind.

Gardening is seductive to the soul.

All seduction and pleasure is evil.

Is joy pleasure?

Joy is a glow isn’t it? A warm flow. Ahhhhhhh.

“Follow your bliss and the universe will open doors for you where there were only walls.

Life has no meaning. Each of us has meaning and we bring it to life. It is a waste to be asking the question when you are the answer.”

—Joseph Campbell

In the end, when ready, all awaken to the real Light within.

For those who have humbled themselves, it will come close to them.

Breathen is achieven.

A couple hundred people near me just stopped breathing from smoke and fire.

What did they achieve?

Ultimately, only they know.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:11 pm

Hmm....how curious.

I like Foot.

The nonsense he writes is quite amusing.

I enjoy it quite a bit.

I like all of you muppets and all of your nonsense.

I say that with the utmost love and respect.

I think I'll just eat some more daisies with Ferdinand now and then float away like dust in the wind.

Yummy flowers.

Okay....enough of that muppet....relax...you got this.

straight on.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:33 pm

There is a reason for the history of our long descent into matter.

But we each know it only for ourselves.

It’s a tragedy for a Human Being to fail to realize they are fundamental.

It’s a real bitch to see you are born into and surrounded by a cocoon of lies.

That must be the best kind of cocoon.

Is a cocoon just more wishful thinking?

Perhaps.

ONE STAR IN SIGHT

Thy feet in mire, thine head in murk,
 O man, how piteous thy plight,
The doubts that daunt, the ills that irk,
 Thou hast nor wit nor will to fight—
How hope in heart, or worth in work?
 No star in sight!

Thy gods proved puppets of the priest.
 “Truth? All’s relation!” science sighed.
In bondage with thy brother beast,
 Love tortured thee, as Love’s hope died
And Lover’s faith rotted. Life no least
 Dim star descried.

Thy cringing carrion cowered and crawled
 To find itself a chance-cast clod
Whose Pain was purposeless; appalled
 That aimless accident thus trod
Its agony, that void skies sprawled
 On the vain sod!

All souls eternally exist,
 Each individual, ultimate,
Perfect—each makes itself a mist
 Of mind and flesh to celebrate
With some twin mask their tender tryst
 Insatiate.

Some drunkards, doting on the dream,
 Despair that it should die, mistake
Themselves for their own shadow-scheme.
 One star can summon them to wake
To self; star-souls serene that gleam
 On life’s calm lake.

That shall end never that began.
 All things endure because they are.
Do what thou wilt, for every man
 And every woman is a star.
Pan is not dead; he liveth, Pan!
 Break down the bar!

To man I come, the number of
 A man my number, Lion of Light;
I am The Beast whose Law is Love.
 Love under will, his royal right—
Behold within, and not above,
 One star in sight!

—Aleister Crowley

Silence & Strength

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:46 pm



Just salsa dancing with paradoxes and illusions.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

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Silence & Strength
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Smelly, unblock me on facebook.


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