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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:09 pm

First topic message reminder :

[The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Reptile on Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:52 am

Haha top Kek on that last one Aaron!
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:04 pm

Analysis, Adjustment and Annihilation

Union leads to a loss of distinction which hints at Death.

Taoism/Zen, like Egyptian Mysticism, sees Truth as a state or condition to be realized only with the absence of all that is not true.

When the heart is weighed against the feather of Maat, it’s not the amount of truth being weighed, but falsehood.

Our limited view of Truth is our only guidepost on the inner journey.

The Black Cross of Themis is the balancing Goddess.

The Master of the Temple hangs themselves in the Universe.

“Behold the Queen of Heaven, how she hath woven her robes from the loom of justice.”

The Lovers create a singularity, the funz.

Breathin is achieven.

It’s a setup.



Sic Semper Tyrannis!

Troth

Smile bitches...
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:19 pm

Shine on you crazy diamonds.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:23 pm

“Keep reminding yourself of the way things are connected, of great relatedness. All things are implicated in one another and in sympathy with each other. This event is the consequence of some other one. Things push and pull on each other, and breathe together, and are ONE.”

—Marcus Aurelius

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:45 pm

Things continue to progress at the Lake, or so I’ve been told.  I may even need to head out there myself.  There maybe a window of months for a story to appear.  The story would only cover the technical dimension.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:31 pm

Very good...

I shall continue...

A Babe is the Abyss after attaining communication with the HGA, will face the Four Great Princes.

Satan as Jesus
Lucifer as Brahma
Leviathan as Allah
Belial as Buddha

They shall assault you from all sides.

And finally Choronzon as time.

Their Servitors and Ministers will attempt to draw you into conflict.

But the Four Princes must be passed by.

They must all be transcended to gain the strength for direct confrontation.

They pretend to conceal the Light to profane it.

So we come to Agnes Dei, the so-called Lamb of God.

The Lamb is the one who deceives the elect. For those who have abandoned the lamb are given over to the wrath of the wolf and raven, greed and mind. The white warm fleece is not suspected as the Enemy.

The lying spirts were loosed first upon the Earth.

So is Jesus the false Christ?

The Great Dragon, that Old Serpent?

Do we have any true enemies?

Satan deceives these sheep with the pure prompting of their souls.

Downright diabolical all this lying and deceiving Wink

How is one to sort out the mess of the soul?

Pretending to conceal the Light of Purity violates the Tao of Man.

Beware the false understanding and the false compassion and selflessness.

This Great Sorcery was deliberate.

If you learned your entire life was a lie would you kill yourself?

If you learned your entire way of life was in opposition to Heaven working in Humanity, the Tao of Man, would you kill yourself?

Now we get close to IT.

Life and Daath.

The Enemie’s servants do not claim to be Guardians of the Mystery of Truth, they claim to be the sole depository of such on Earth.

The Enemy said, “I am the Way, the Truth and the life; no man comes to the Father but through me.”

Ohhhhh snap Wink

Are you shitting me Jesus, say it ain’t so?!

Oh the Humanity Wink

Whoa to us, we are lost on the rocks of ignorance.

I faced three of the Princes and have rooted them out.

I am threatened by Leviathan, we all are.

Fear not, get to work, put your shoulders into it.

You live in a very very evil world, on the surface anyway.

Maybe some goat yoga can help.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:50 pm

I just spoke with Dan on the phone.

Dan said something about there being some concern or something in regards to more wide spread dissemination of disclosure due to the way Smelly has responded to it or something like that.

I didn’t quite understand what you were saying Dan but I was picking up a funky smell from it.

You have to let go completely.

Smelly is not as he appears.

Trust me on this one.

When you drop judgments and concerns and move freely with the flow you will find your perma grin.

When it comes to disclosure I think you have to be hands off the rudder. Completely trusting the flow beyond all judgements.

We are full speed ahead with disclosure Dan and Ron.

Don’t try and meddle with the flow.

No hesitations.

Open the flood gates.

Have full faith in what is present and flowing.

When you try to plan and plot disclosure out of concern for how it might effect people in the future you have started to get out of sync with the flow.

Be fully present now.

Just one muppets opinion, and you know what they say about opinions.

Wink

Do as though wilt.

You can never really be out of sync with the flow but you can create the appearance of resistance, and resistance is .....well.....resistance, have fun with that.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:51 pm

This can’t be faked.

You must tear down the false citadels with no pity.

“Bahlasti! Ompehda! I spit on your crapulous creeds.”

I kill the heart of man.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:54 pm

Hahahahaha

It’s always amusing when I spit on myself.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:56 pm

It’s easy to wash the shit off, if you use your own spit and blood.




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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:57 pm

Touché

We keep washing until we are fully cleansed.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:00 pm

It’s all lies.

My official response to this world and any disclosure.

I AM not a lie.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:01 pm

Ha

What a lie

It’s all the truth
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:02 pm

I was shown this is all lies.

I was shown by Marissa at 11:11 11/11

They won’t admit they have been fooled.

Disclose that bitches.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:10 pm

I’ll tell you what isn’t a lie though, the Temple of the Soul is being cleansed of idols.

“This also is compassion: an end to the sickness of the Earth. A rooting out of the weeds: a watering of the flowers.”

I see the hand of the Gardner at work.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:16 pm

What is a lie without the truth?

I Am the truth.

I Am disclosure.

I Am the noble lies and the dirty truths.

But Who Am I?

don’t know...

I Am the ultimate mystery.

Swinging on the spirals of lies and illusions.

Wheee!

Disclosure always complete in the changing flowing now.

Just kick back and enjoy the ride.

And be fucking nice to your fellow muppets Smelly boy!

We rinse in our own blood until we don’t.

It’s time to unite in Kindness.

Wink

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:20 pm

And as far as being too stupid to understand the smelly goat, that’s only done understanding your self and having a clue about 671.

Follow the arrow.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:21 pm

Uh huh.

All arrows lead to the same thing.

Do you see what I see?

Cool, we’re on the same page then.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:52 pm

The Tiger is a useful survival tool until we make it to shore.

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Post by smelly on Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:54 pm

I don’t know what anyone else sees really.

They have to sift and measure themselves, I am not anyone’s judge, nor are any of you muppets.

“We attained to be starry grains of gold dust in the sands of a slow river.”

If you wish to attain the Mysterium est Mortis et Vitae, then do so if you can.

No time like now.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:33 pm

“I've often seen a cat without a grin,” thought Alice; “but a grin without a cat! It's the most curious thing I ever saw in my life!”
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:10 pm

Snoop Dog is grinnin, right through it all.

He’s a Discloser.

Smile bitches.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:28 am

smelly and Aaron,  

Thank you for sticking around and keeping me company...... and keeping the muppets a little bit on the defensive.  Of course, we are all muppets in the end.


I need to decide rather soon about going out to see Aaron and Kevin.  I hope to get some pointers from the Princess.  Ron has not called.  

I had exchanges with two Enochians over the weekend.  I did not hold up my end of the conversation very well.  

In the last few minutes of the conversation, it occurred to me what might be the problem....... it was the Eschaton.  

Anni hews to the eschatological side of Enoch, while Kat does not, and I was somewhat stuck in the middle.  

I trust that most of you are cognizant of the best possible Eschaton.  This is the wrap around Eschaton........ where the Omega meets the Alpha.  So when we refer to the j-man as the AO guy, we aren’t just kidding around.  

My job, should I choose to accept it, as chicken little, is to explain the wrap around feature of our small world.  I mean we just can’t leave any loose ends, can we?  Mama don’t allow no dangling prepositions, my dears.  But she does allow double negatives.  

With this wrap around feature, we have the best of both the East and the West....... wouldn’t you know it.

You and I are the Eternal Returners, but the World only goes around once.  It is a trick and a half.  

Remember, there is only one soul....... we are all just secret time sharers...... soulmates..... one and all. That includes the muppets, too, smelly. Sorry about that.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:34 am

I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks.

Maybe when you completely let go of the eschaton, your eschaton will be complete. 

Dangle free in the mystery of the Now.

Dan may be loosening his grip on his favorite toy, cool, straight on.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:38 am

Or maybe smelly/Aaron weren’t doing their homework..........

They were just out in left field, eating the daises..... along with Ferdinand.

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