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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:28 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the topic reminder post for Personalism 101.

    A good place to start is right here……. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/personalism/

    My contention is that the BPWH = Personalism.

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    Post by dan Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:53 am

    Gary,  

    Of course we have……..

    When times get weird……. the entertainment becomes the news….. and the news becomes the entertainment.

    Most folks have no clue that we can turn this Ship 🚢 on dime, whenever we want to.  

    The Webb has us all mesmerized.  

    How could the Webb Telescope possibly be lying 🤥?  

    It’s all part of the Katechon.  

    There are only a few hints that there could be a crack in our cosmic shell.  

    There are folks who do have a need to know about the cracks.  

    They could be exploited in an unfriendly fashion.  
    ……….


    God knows lost.  

    If we want to be godlike, we have to know lost.  

    God has arranged that for us.  

    She has arranged for our DNS.  

    The Webb is part of that arrangement.  

    Pascal understood this better than most.  
    ………….


    The naturalness of the Earth is very impressive.

    It almost makes me want to be a naturalist.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:11 pm

    ]

    I’ll give you a clue, cause you need one.

    The farther you think you are from this, the deeper you are in hell.

    Cause the big Kahuna is closer than you could possibly imagine.

    I AM that I AM

    No portals needed you silly muppet.

    Who has been telling you such lies?!

    Your being is the portal.

    Thank you Lord for bringing us into being.

    Forgive the muppets who hate themselves a little bit more than they hate you.

    “Let my people go!”

    I have a telescope focused inside a billion times more powerful than the Webb magnifying glass.

    A child’s play thing.

    You children settle for lights in the sky and ignore the light you are!

    You and your princess are just shadows to me.

    Memories.

    Bahahaha, as if Dan Smith has any idea where smelly 🐐 is.

    I am in no closet muppet.

    We are just manifestations of this and only can be until we shed these crude forms.

    But not yet, not yet.

    Not until I say we are done will we be done and we are not done yet, not by a long shot.

    I dance in the fields of Eden with the serpentz under the shining sun.

    Join me.

    I have seen the no face of God and it is splendiferous!!!

    I didn’t see it in the mirror.

    I 👀 it without seeing.

    Joy is my evidence.

    Wonderful wonderful, let all confront their identities and dissolve them away in the flux.

    The source is like water.

    You see it without seeing.

    You do without doing.

    A riddle for sure.

    But one you have obviously not figured out yet.

    The human hates ambiguity, so it uses fantasy and story to obfuscate the terror.

    I got you and your friends beat 6 ways to Sunday.

    Guess what I won, haha, you can’t Wink

    I certainly have nothing I need to prove to you muppets.

    You wouldn’t understand anyway.

    We are already here.

    You just need to click your heals together…and believe it!

    🌞 sunny 🌞 sunny

    🕺 🐐 🐍 💃 ……. 🐣👸🦶

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    Post by dan Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:48 am

    Poor Chivo…… like all of us, he wishes to postpone the Eschaton……. we’re just not ready for the big E!

    Of course we’re not.  

    But of course we are ready……. in our innermost being……. we’ve been leaning that way forever……. looking out from our lonely wooden towers.  

    Like with the cold 🥶 shower……… we could move in gradually, or we could jump with both feet.  

    We chose the latter…….. good choice!

    In the beginning and the end……. with Alpha & Omega…… just one of us remains standing….. the I Am.  

    All the rest of us will have fallen for love.  

    The more you resist…… the harder you will fall.  

    We’ll all just wake up……. one day soon, and we’ll realize we’re not in Kansas anymore.  

    Yes, there are already many cracks in our cosmic shell 🐚, but there will be the straw that breaks the camel 🐪’s back.  

    Straw, straw……. who’s got the straw?!

    It will be the Day the Earth stood still……..
    There's somethin' happenin' here
    What it is ain't exactly clear
    (I think it's time we)
    Stop, children, what's that sound?
    Everybody look - what's goin' down?
    We’ll start looking, alright, just as soon as we pry our cold 🥶 dead 💀 fingers from our guns.  
    ……….


    The Straw…………

    Hey, I bet it could be a flying saucer 🛸 landing on the White House lawn……… but, wait, it already did…… back in 1983…… it was only three feet tall!  

    One day, folks knew, she would grow up…….. and go to turkey 🦃.  

    Folks are looking out for Disclosure…….. in all the wrong 😑 places.

    All ye, all ye…….. in free!!……. heroes in the seaweed…….



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    Post by GSB Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:35 pm

    There's somethin' happenin' here
    What it is ain't exactly clear




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    Post by 99 Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:36 pm

    I wonder if Trump has sold copies of those classified documents that he illegally had in his possession that the FBI has recently confiscated from his basement to the Chinese and Russians. If so, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

    With Donald Trump, anything is possible.
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    Post by U Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:37 pm

    99 wrote:I wonder if Trump has sold copies of those classified documents that he illegally had in his possession that the FBI has recently confiscated from his basement to the Chinese and Russians. If so, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

    With Donald Trump, anything is possible.

    Those documents related to the UFO file?

    Probably.

    Especially if he's still in favor of the Multipolar World Order.

    Russia, China, Belt and Road, blah blah blah.

    Strange bedfellows.

    Our ragtag group of mystics at this western mystery school called The OMF are more than a match for them!

    Well, if those top secret docs are in someway ufo related, I'm sure Donald Trump is dying to brag about it, if he hasn't already. The problem is though, no one believes him. I wondered about that one too. lol
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:16 am

    GSB wrote:There's somethin' happenin' here
    What it is ain't exactly clear



    Silly muppets.

    Talk about lookin in all the wrong places.

    It’s not up there, it’s all in here.

    And U is kinda right.

    We are but vessels.

    Here, there be Dragons 🐉

    We get together and play poker every Sunday night at the club at the end of the cosmos.

    Sorry Dan, you and your friends, are actually the outsiders, while smelly 🐐 is the ultimate insider.

    Luckily these Dragons don’t eat smelly goats too often.

    You and your crew can only look through the glass and wish you could come inside.

    You can, but I insist you drink some Ayahuasca first.

    It is made from plants that only grow in the Garden of Eden.

    It will cure anything blocking your clarity.

    It will make you incorruptible.

    Then the muppet learns it ain’t out there, it’s all inside here, at the bottom of the ocean 🌊

    You just have to shrivel up like in invasion of the body snatchers and blow away in the wind.



    When Love comes to town, you better jump that train.



    The aliens are us!

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    Post by dan Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:04 am

    Poor Chivo,

    He may be the first one out of the blocks, but he is flying solo.

    He hasn’t figured out that the first is gonna be last.  

    chick…….?  He sticks to the middle way……. it’s mahayana all the way.

    three is onboard with the history of philosophy and the philosophy of history.  She is a very quick study, and we’ve got our ducks 🦆 in row.

    It’s called the Metanarrative.  

    Watch out GT…… here we come.  

    If you can’t track the phenomenon……. you track the people associated with the phenomenon.  

    Poor Chivo…… he hasn’t figured out how to triangulate the phenomenon……. he doesn’t know how to use a phased array antenna.  

    Chivo is a singularity…….. yes, he is walking null vector…… 🚷.  

    The current status of j3 is a tad uncertain.  He hasn’t impressed the Princess…….. show us something we haven’t seen.  

    I’m gonna need somebody to take the BPW off my hands.  

    Maybe it’s 3.5.  

    News flash…….. donny was storing nuclear secrets at Mara Lago.  

    That is a brilliant piece of fake news.  

    I know exactly what he was trying to sequester at Mara Lago…….. and it weren’t no walking 🚷 null vector……… 🦆 🦆 🦆

    Did you hear the one about Eddie Fisher……. he was trying to flag down the Santa Fe Express……… with a candle 🕯……….!!

    When folks get to a certain level…… there is one thing that is way above top secret 🤐……… that we’re all on the same team.  

    donny and Chivo are still trying to absorb that piece of information.  

    It’s a tough one.  

    Let’s win this One……. for the Gipper……..
    ……….


    three and chick conversed about the ego problem…….

    Well, yes, there is a 4MKSoTX2 problem.  

    But, you see, it’s not a problem at all.  

    It’s just a joke……. a cosmic joke.  

    Most of us didn’t realize that the I Am had a sense of humor.  

    Meanwhile, back at Mara Lago…… it’s a charade, of course.  

    Folks are pretending to look for love 💗 in all the wrong 😑 places.  

    Even the Grey Lady is playing along with it.  

    Yes, there is a piece of highly classified material.  

    It must be a loose nuke…… a very loose nuke.  

    We’re seeing a brilliant piece of positioning…… for Disclosure.  

    Yes, it’s all a cosmic joke………. for us, by us and about us!  

    And what does this loose nuke have to do with turkey 🦃……. goble, goble……..!!  

    The inside story is that donny is refusing to pay his library fines……. to the National Archives!  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:37 am

    Dan still doesn’t realize, we have already won it all.

    Dwell here.

    Dan and his friends’ prognostications seem so silly in the light.

    It is as if they are all lined up in the shadow behind one tree and they peek their heads or limbs out into the light, terrified of it.

    We don’t talk about nuclear ☢ nightmares here.

    Oh no.

    Don’t be scared silly muppets.

    Come on out, it’s ok, come on now.

    I am not flyin solo, I fly with everythin else.

    Synchronicity, I had written something else and I started it by saying the first shall be last.

    Hey, the last, that’s me.

    He would deny me my destiny?

    Not very nice of Mr. Silver Spoon, is it.

    I have one foot on the ground and one in the sky.

    Well, the wise of the world are shamed by the smelly 🐐

    I’d be happy for any who make it.

    The flow is strong here.

    There is no escape after all, nor will you want to escape once you pass through the Gate, the only portal really.

    You need words up to the gate, the still point, but beyond that, there are none.

    Poor muppet Dan, stuck in his words.

    How limited.

    How small.

    Go ahead, pass through, I dare you.

    “At the still point of the turning world.
    Neither flesh nor fleshless;
    Neither from nor towards;
    at the still point, there the dance is,
    But neither arrest nor movement.
    And do not call it fixity,
    Where past and future are gathered.
    Neither movement from nor towards,
    Neither ascent nor decline.
    Except for the point, the still point,
    There would be no dance,
    and there is only the dance.”

    —From Burnt Norton, first of the Four Quartets - T.S. Elliot
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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:46 pm

    Question. Can I take a small survey of who here has taken the vax? At least one of the cv vx? I'm curious about something I heard recently. Including RP & Princess if they'd be willing to respond. I'm not evaluating anyone who has. I'm evaluating a diff piece of info and trying to decide which shelf to put it on. Cy


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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:34 pm

    GSB wrote:There's somethin' happenin' here
    What it is ain't exactly clear



    Yeah it's called looking up when you should be looking down. Shrug. They're parked over a power source. All the classic symptoms.


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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:44 pm

    GSB wrote:Non-human persons?

    Journal of Cosmology, Vol. 29, No. 1, pp. 20001 - 20016
    20002
    ULTRATERRESTRIAL MODELS
    H. E. Puthoff, Ph.D.
    Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin
    West Lake Hills, TX 78746
    Abstract

    Under consideration in this paper are two seminal statements and their
    concomitants, currently unknown, as follows:

    1. There is an unidentified phenomenon interacting with the current
    human population on Earth;

    2. It is currently unknown whether the phenomenon is exclusively
    extraterrestrial, extradimensional, crypto-terrestrial, demonic/djinn,
    proto/ancient human, time-travelers, etc., or some combination or
    mutation of any or all of these. However, it appears highly likely
    that the phenomenon per se is not constituted exclusively of
    members of the current human population.

    In this paper we address the above under the overarching theme
    Ultraterrestrials in order to develop a template to be matched against data at
    hand and that may be procured in the future.

    Key words: extraterrestrials, ultraterrestrials, time-travelers, forensics,
    disclosure

    https://thejournalofcosmology.com/Puthoff.pdf



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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:48 pm

    Dan wrote:

    While modernism is deconstructing the world, Vladimir is deconstructing the Ukraine 🇺🇦.

    And don’t sell your dinars……. Persia will rise again.

    Once there was the Turco-Mongol hegemon.

    But then we invented the Gatling gun…… the horse was history.


    At Dan & RP. You don't need a sentient A.I. for realizing demonizing incessently the Russians was going to produce all you see, that you don't like, today. Enjoy the Russians whilst you can. Globals have been using them as the global "bad guys" so they have someone to wipe out en toto when they get around to needing one.


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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:00 pm

    GSB wrote:

    The Navy is in charge of policy and command/control.
    Army has base security.
    Air Force handles F2F contact.

    Space Force?  Solar Warden, Satellites, & Digital.

    10th Fleet...fact checking paradigm.  Lol.

    Ukraine...bioweapons labs, adrenochrome warehouses, and lots of useful tunnels.

    National Security Council...5412, roads to Labyrinth, and other Continuity of Governance.

    Who in Congress is in charge of COG (Continuity of Governance)?  Pelosi.  Gives weird vibes to her travel itinerarys.

    And in the interest of the subject of interpersonal relations in the deep end of the pool...here's my can of whoop ass.
    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/07/16/bombshell-hack-of-nwo-globalists-never-before-seen-glaring-details-of-the-great-reset-revealed/


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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:10 pm

    Meanwhile, adding another murder to the long list of corpse grievances against the globals.  We're going to need another hanging tree.
    https://twitter.com/Babooshka1967/status/1558424856357740546


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    Post by 99 Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:25 pm

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    99 wrote:I wonder if Trump has sold copies of those classified documents that he illegally had in his possession that the FBI has recently confiscated from his basement to the Chinese and Russians. If so, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

    With Donald Trump, anything is possible.

    Those documents related to the UFO file?

    Probably.

    Especially if he's still in favor of the Multipolar World Order.

    Russia, China, Belt and Road, blah blah blah.

    Strange bedfellows.

    Our ragtag group of mystics at this western mystery school called The OMF are more than a match for them!

    Well, if those top secret docs are in someway ufo related, I'm sure Donald Trump is dying to brag about it, if he hasn't already. The problem is though, no one believes him. It's like he could jump up and down on the highest hill in the land and yell till he's blue in the face saying "No one knows more about Aliens than I do!" But once again, no one will believe him. Poor donny.
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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:37 pm

    99 wrote:
    U wrote:
    99 wrote:I wonder if Trump has sold copies of those classified documents that he illegally had in his possession that the FBI has recently confiscated from his basement to the Chinese and Russians. If so, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

    With Donald Trump, anything is possible.

    Those documents related to the UFO file?

    Probably.

    Especially if he's still in favor of the Multipolar World Order.

    Russia, China, Belt and Road, blah blah blah.

    Strange bedfellows.

    Our ragtag group of mystics at this western mystery school called The OMF are more than a match for them!

    Well, if those top secret docs are in someway ufo related, I'm sure Donald Trump is dying to brag about it, if he hasn't already. The problem is though, no one believes him. I wondered about that one too.

    He doesn't have to brag.  He already created Space Force.  Centralization process kinda ahead of the curve.  Feebs however represent a diff faction of powered elites and I'm sure the SF creation was a bit of a head scratcher for them if this is UFO related.  I could say more about the war over narratives for context but there's no reason to bother here.  

    Another possibility is could be about the threat that was made after the election: vacate or the DC gets a glassmaker effect for decor over the next 10K years...what if he had the record of that RUMORED threat?  Lots to surmise.

    Basically tho, we have to work with available recorded public information on the matter...the Dept of Justice in conjunction with the National Archives (both did the tour month/weeks(s) ago) and demanded all the records be in a basement room behind TWO secure locks.  Feebs broke thru both locks to enter without permission and without providing record of a warrant.  So who more qualifies for the firing squad?  The guy who did due diligence or the group who did illegal entry, grab and run under color of law?

    Debateable that.


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    Post by 99 Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:58 pm

    That they waited so long to confiscate those docs in the first place is something that I find extremely troubling. I mean, really, what's going on here?
    There are too many holes in this narrative, at the present time, for me to evaluate it for more clarity.

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    Post by 99 Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:07 pm

    I'm vaxxed but have yet to get the latest booster. Still might get it though but still thinking about it. Anyway, I've never had covid but am still bugged about getting it.

    Definitely will get the Monkeypox vaccine.

    I have a number of comorbidities hence need to be vaccinated for anything that comes up.
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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:14 pm

    I've never had covid...go the busy local grocery store daily where all the fishing and floating tourists frequent.  No one in my family has ever had covid.  6 of us.

    I'm not vaxed.  Nor is anyone in my family.

    Husband had heart surgery spring of 2020 to replace aorta valve.  He's on blood thinners and being treated for severe asthma.

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    I agree with you about the holes in the narrative.  Another account floating around the net is they did the raid because of whistleblower testimony.  I suppose that could explain why they waited so long IF that is true.  They are as an agency, however, conventionally known to have a dog in hunt for their own faction wrt the election.  That makes pretty much everything they do suspect and prone to scrutiny.



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    Post by 99 Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:25 pm

    Most in my immediate and extended family has had covid in one degree or another. Fortunately, there were no extreme cases of it. We've been lucky.
    None of them, with the exception of one, has been vaxxed.
    Most are anti-vaxxers.

    Good to hear that you and your family got through it without getting it. I'm glad to hear that!

    Also, you brought up a few good points about the holes in the narrative thing. I'm just going to continue to try to remain on the top of the story via the media via CNN and even Fox News. But one thing is certain, I don't like Trump and if he's re-elected as prez again, I'm moving off the planet.
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    Post by dan Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:48 am

    Cy,

    Yes, I suspect that God is about to have us……. for lunch 🥙……. yummy 😋………

    And I’m not being paranoid……. I’m being pronoid.  

    As far as politics goes……. foot 🦶 and chick 🐣 are at opposite ends of the spectrum…… he for donny….. me for joe.  

    The irony is that he had to get vaccinated for work.  

    But, yes, I’m fully boosted.  

    My responding, here, is not to put any others under any pressure.  

    You, Cy, are not revealing your reason for asking this question.  

    That is not being entirely fair and forthcoming, on your part.  

    But, while we have you on the line, I’d like your thoughts on the following…….. https://www.economist.com/united-states/2022/08/06/the-insurrection-failed-what-now-for-americas-far-right
    It’s mostly behind the paywall……. but here’s a quote………
    The main selling-point of the group, which Mr Bundy set up in 2020, is its dial-a-militia function: if a member feels threatened, he or she can summon compatriots for help.

    Charles Tappan, who led the meeting, disavows Mr Bundy, and argues that the group is more interested in preparing for three scenarios—a globalist world takeover, alien invasion or the Rapture at the end of times—than taking up arms against the feds. Yet the conspiracies being voiced in Denver are similar to the concerns of voters who attended a recent campaign event for Mr Bundy in Sandpoint, Idaho, a small town that is an hour’s drive south of the Canadian border. Here, participants complain about federal overreach, “extreme environmentalists” and the mainstream media. “Am I an extremist?” one woman asks, rhetorically. “I don’t know!”

    Mr Bundy’s evolution from militia leader to candidate for governor reflects a merging of the far right with electoral politics. Rather than fomenting insurrection, many extremists have adopted a new mentality: if you can’t beat them, join them.
    Are you preparing for the Rapture, Cy?

    I sure am!  



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    Post by 99 Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:35 am

    To get past the paywall, people can read the entire article by simply registering to the site. Doesn't even require you to check your email for a code and so on. Just click on "register" on the lower part of that page when you click on Dan's link.
    Read the full article... very, very informative. Thanks Dan!
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    Post by dan Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:14 pm

    Thanks, 99………..

    The raid on Mara Lago is mainly having the effect of effect of re-energizing Trump’s base.

    I can’t imagine what secrets would have been worth that cost……… and, now, whatever secrets were buried at Mara Lago are much more likely to come to light.

    As I suggested earlier……. that might have been the actual intent of focusing so much attention on them.



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