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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

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Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

First topic message reminder :

We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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Post by Cyrellys Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:55 pm

Hi Smelly. I do appreciate your remarks.


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Post by GSB Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:02 am

A true Sign of the Eschaton: Popular Mechanics asking if the Universe is Conscious

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a36329671/is-the-universe-conscious/

The revolutionary thing in IIT isn’t related to the human brain—it’s that consciousness isn’t biological at all, but rather is simply this value, phi, that can be calculated if you know a lot about the complexity of what you’re studying.


In our formalization, this is a map
Sys E−→ Exp
from the system class Sys into a class Exp of experience spaces, which,
first, sends each system S to its space of possible experiences E(S), and,
second, sends each state s ∈ St(S) to the actual experience the system
is having when in that space,
St(S) → E(S) s 7→ E(S, s) .

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2002.07655.pdf


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Post by 99 Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:47 am

Smelly El Chivo wrote:Good to see you and Cy btw.

Same here Smelly and sweet of you to say that.
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Post by Foot Mann Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:10 pm

Two weeks to go on my shift. Then I will be set Adrift. The Chicken is not even Miffed. Hope my time goes Swift. All on this freak show are Tiffed. Loony Bin is Chicken's gift.
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Post by FatThorDude Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:22 pm

The streets of the holy city are made of music.

There are no doors in the holy city.

There are no roads to it.

It just appears and disappears.

Or is it you appearing and disappearing?

Here and not here.

Left foot and his material friends are the lost ones.

Ridiculous pretenders that they are.

I taste their fear.

How does one approach the ineffable?

Presence.

As I have taken a deep dive into the ineffable, I find it leaves its mark.

We try to raid the ineffable holy city in many ways.

But we actually abide there, but are mostly unaware of this.

That is why when we are at peace, we can realize where we are.  

Dan’s train trip is a trip through the ineffable.

At depths high and low, you contend with a kind of pressurization sickness if you aren’t careful mucking around in the innards of consciousness and or the heights of nous.

There are men who stare at goats and then there is being a goat.

All who claim to know workings of the ineffable are liars.

All my words are lies.

There is no hive or Princess.

Those are constructs of very small minds.

Do away with them with the wave of your hand.

And the 🐐💨  of your ass.

No human mind can really penetrate this.

But consciousness is all we know, right?

If one looks into hallucination and the surreal, one can come at the problem of consciousness sideways.

It isn’t a problem at all.

Consciousness is deeply linked with space and time, chicken and the egg.

Science has new theories about it popping up all the time.

The original ancient science had more respect for the unseen, but deeply felt.

DRUGS AREN'T NEARLY AS HALLUCINOGENIC AS IDEAS

So they gave us ways to manage our thinking.

“When an idea is hallucinogenic, it is not only believable, it is life-changing. Every idea, ranging from God, to anxiety, to self-consciousness, is a form of hallucinogenic stimuli capable of altering an individual’s entire experience of life. By expanding your definition of hallucinations, you can develop the ability to see the invisible forces pulling everyone's strings.”

I have accomplished this for myself and only for myself.

It has given me a power I never could have imagined from above the surface.

A power with words and ideas and people.

I enjoy building people up and enabling them to realize their best lives.

I have played with it in public.

I could cause a lot of trouble.

I have found how to push people and bend them to my will.

But I do not desire really to bend muppets to my will.

I want to help them see this for themselves and take responsibility for themselves.

Even more so as the world falls apart.

I do not wish to leave them to their confusion.

Just look at how religion and politics destroys minds.

Human mind is a young and fragile thing.

It should be treasured and improved in all ways possible.

Sometimes you have to lose it all to find a way.

So it may be our greatest grace to fall into chaos.

No one is a master of chaos.

All fear it.

No one is good.

No one is evil.

We are the open question.

Desire and power are disastrous in 99 out of 100 hundred sets of hands.

Let’s improve that starting with ourselves and own self dissection.

Only then may you go amongst the dark and light ones, following your own path that no one can move you from.

And you will suffer.

And you will often stand alone.

But really, you are never alone.

It just feels that way because the others are distracted.

There is something in the dark.

Playful, menacing, growling.

It plays by tearing us to pieces.

The evil and fearful will sneer at you and tell you are nothing.

But they don’t have your smile.

You know better.

This is why they hate you.

When you smile like you mean it, you are god here.

It is your world to do with as you see best do with it.

It is the pearl more valuable than all currencies combined.

It is the greatest wealth a human can accumulate.

I would never trust left foot types and their friends with this power, which is why they cannot access this power, they can only pretend.

The ones in power and their minions are most distracted.

God doesn’t trust us.

I know this because I have the mind of god and I know I don’t trust consciousness or even myself.

I don’t have anything against evil, it is a necessary ingredient.

One must respect power in all its forms.

One should approach with humility and an open heart and mind willing to be torn to shreds.

The invisible heart and mind is closed off by desire of the body.

This is why one has to close themselves off to their desire to draw close to the invisible.

Your perception of it changes once you have passed the threshold of death in life.

Only the penitent shall pass, if you know what I mean.

I have used this awareness of the hallucinatory nature of thinking to decompose myself and it is worth doing.

Take all the drugs.

Do all the meditations.

Have all the pleasure you can.

Listen to all the gurus.

Deny all the gods and daimons.

Embrace them all too.

In these extremes, you gain glimpses, you access something beyond just your own mind and silly desires.

It is just confused thinking to keep anything back from yourself.

Going along to get along is bullshit.

Go as far as you can into your thinking and feeling and then go beyond that.

Then look at yourself and the world with no head.

We have it in us to be incorruptible.

Raise yourself to that standard and then go beyond it.

Never stop.

And remember, resistance is your greatest ally.

I love the left feet of the world for they teach us something so important.

Life is not meaningless.

And while others constantly seek to manipulate you, know that is the evidence of things unseen.



There is hope even for left feet to learn to walk straight.

You just have to find that smile and stick to it.

Smile like you mean it.

I live in the darkness, it’s dark in here.

We don’t know the light 💡 yet really.

But we will, it will burst forth in the darkness and will know it as itself.

The light is here to know the dark, not destroy it, but to love it and bring it into itself.

I had my guns loaded.

Ready for a fight.

But we will bring the ground down from underneath you, without firing a shot.
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Post by Cyrellys Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:29 pm

Foot Mann wrote:Two weeks to go on my shift. Then I will be set Adrift. The Chicken is not even Miffed. Hope my time goes Swift. All on this freak show are Tiffed. Loony Bin is Chicken's gift.

Robert Heinlein say's nice side step Foot.  

Do you like court documents?  I do.  Makes for nice auxiliaries to Disclosure.  

A few key points from the court filing are:

…in 2017, in cooperation with state officials and that they created a new centralized Governing Coordinating Council (GCC) that brought together both state and federal officials to create an electronic infrastructure for surveilling speech and monitoring “Influence Operators.”

…began formulating and designing the framework for silently violating the free speech rights of US persons by first characterizing speakers as “Influence Operators” (IOs) thereby fabricating a sinister connotation where none exists, as the ideological framework to justify canceling speakers who exercise their right to express their opinion

Document in PDF.  Archived offline.
https://u8z8g8c2.rocketcdn.me/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/11889-Supplemental-Memorandum-Playbook-Filed.pdf



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Post by Cyrellys Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:32 pm

Let's just move what Foot sidestepped forward in time a hair...

Cyrellys wrote:
Foot Mann wrote:The Chicken is on the Train. He is searching for a Brain. For the Blog is Lost, before the Frost, while waiting for the Train.

The Chicken is on the Train...

The Chicken is learning to see the train.  Contact, chaos, and Synchronicity like a yarn of many strands is all in simultaneous motion.  The interrelationships make little sense when you only wish to see a singular strand.  But that's not how the universe works.  The universe is a rainbow of light reflected in the biomind.

The paradigm of nongovernmental contact is being evolved in a wide spectrum of ways.  It is expected this comes with trepidation by those who find it more difficult to impossible to gauge outcomes and feedback loops.  

The mongoose can't find the cobra.  But I suggest what you see as a cobra is more the gazelle.  Are there cobras sure.  But in the upward causal link if you "see" it, you will be more likely to create it.  Unintentional intent can create monsters...the fabric is malleable.  

The fabric is magic if you don't understand what you see of the mechanics...just like Cy is schizophrenic if you don't understand what you see of the mechanics.

Try not to be a blind sniper among friendlies.

biological causal induction..."intent" commands synchronization and desynchronization...malleable.

The base disk...fyi

Synchronization on demand.

....biogeosystemics of vacuum-plenum information subquantum bio-information dynamics.

I'm neither heartless nor schizophrenic; I just find games and idiocy irritating beyond all belief.  Especially when it wastes precious time.

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Post by Foot Mann Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:27 pm

The Chicken is in the Prairie. He is searching for the Fairy. Far off he heard a Canary. Nearby it is not Merry.
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Post by dan Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:41 pm

After June 25, folks will be searching for contact.

I’m searching for the fairy Princess.

Chick 🐣 is looking for the canary in the coal mine.

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Post by 99 Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:03 am

Humanity has pissed off the Cthulhu, big time.. Our home is their home and we are destroying it. They are very upset about this and are giving us warnings, loud and clear, to stop polluting our planet and, most of all, getting rid of our nuclear warfare and nuclear power plants.

We are all given permission to communicate with them at their "stargates" but only a few are successful at doing that. Nevertheless, their ongoing message is for us to clean up our act and mind the planet. If we don't do that, they will unleash their wrath upon humanity in countless unfathomable ways.

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Post by U Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:24 am

99 wrote:Humanity has pissed off the Cthulhu, big time.. Our home is their home and we are destroying it. They are very upset about this and are giving us warnings, loud and clear, to stop polluting our planet and, most of all, getting rid of our nuclear warfare and nuclear power plants.

We are all given permission to communicate with them at their "stargates" but only a few are successful at doing that. Nevertheless, their ongoing message is for us to clean up our act and mind the planet. If we don't do that, they will unleash their wrath upon humanity in countless unfathomable ways.

99 you are right on the money! I can confidently say the shady practices of the elite and abuse of members of the populace especially those with connections to the gods also play a major role in the reckoning that has already begun.

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Post by 99 Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:50 am

Right.... it's already begun! Good point!

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Post by dan Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:55 pm

My suspicion is that that the Disclosure cat 🐈 is out of the bag.  

Various groups and individuals will try to put the cat back in the bag, but with nil success.  

I really don’t know how the cat got out of the bag.  

Certainly, TTSA had something to do with it…… in conjunction with the NYT.  

Yes, the ufo report may attempt to squash the limited hangout…… to little avail.  

Most of us will understand that there has been a coverup.  

The momentum is on our side.  

Folks will understand that there must be more than lights in the sky.  

Something is slouching toward Bethlehem.  

foot thinks it’s hilarious that chick 🐣 could be the son of Satan.  

He is easily amused.  

My understanding, however, is that only angels can incarnate, but I don’t recall the source.  Otherwise, I could be son of Sam.  

What is different now is that the scientific edifice is likely to collapse, once this cat is out of the bag……
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.

Scientific materialism is like a balloon……. one prick and it’s all gone….. and nature will abhor the intellectual vacuum.  

That vacuum can no longer be filled with Cartesian dualism.  

Immaterialism will be the only way forward.  

You all were speaking of object oriented ontology.  

I’m not aware that OOO is coherent…… but, yes, it does come from HP Lovecraft.  

The potential horror of OOO can be contained only within the confines of the BPW.  

Somehow, we don’t seem to be in Kansas, anymore.  

I think there may have been a portal at Alcove Springs……. almost every wagon train went through there, and it is where the first member of the ill-fated Donner party succumbed.  

Another point of interest on the Oregon trail is Kaw point.  

Folks will understand that there must have been something worth being covered up…… something more than lights in the sky…… something above top secret……. something that presidents must be briefed upon.  

For how much longer will that be denied?

donny could let that cat out of the bag….. in a pinch.  

Paul Smith’s book about Ike’s alleged encounter is a case in point.  

How long will it take folks to realize that if we can’t track the phenomenon, we must be doing something else?  

Grant Cameron and Keith Kloor have certainly been sniffing around.  

How are we going to manage that magic/Majic?

Yes, it’s fair to say that there must be a lot of jockeying for position.  

And how many items are being repositioned…… in anticipation.  

Imagine the impending hubbub inside the Vatican.  The Vatican library is likely being rescruitinized.  

Tom DeLonge and the Grey Lady do make for strange bedfellows.  

Has Tom been run to ground?  

Where is the Princess 👸 when we need her?

There was an intermediary I was supposed to contact……. Rob.



(cont………..)

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Post by FatThorDude Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:15 pm

Have you learned nothing Dan?!

No one is gonna hold your hand.

Speak for yourself!

Nothing is gonna save anyone!

We do it for ourselves or nothing has been done!

No one is doing anything for anyone!

Do it for yourself or it ain’t worth a damn!

Haven’t you figured this game out yet?!

Love yourself.

When it comes to love, no one is more deserving than another.

And nothing more meaningful to anyone could be disclosed.

Plenty of room under this tent.

It depends on their innate intelligence and the depth of their inner life and I love you as far as what anyone is aware of.

That’s not a bad deal if you ask me.

Each already has what they have been given.

Can they realize it?

Up to each individual now.

And judging how stupid most conservatives are, not many will be aware for a few generations now.

Trump sure did expose them didn’t he?!

Whether he did it on purpose or just due to his nature doesn’t matter.

What would Jesus have done?

He was an insurrectionist after all.

All are welcome under this tent.

This is a one tent ⛺  party 🎉🎈🎊 after all.

You just have to check your mind at the portal 🚪

Good 🍀  muppets.

We will be waiting for you.

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Post by U Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:34 pm

Dr. Eric.

What makes the conservatives most stupid?

What makes their inner life less beautiful?

I grew up liberal and to this day defend many of those values.

After November of '16 with that email drop I saw something very scary and had to change course.

Am I a duped fool?

Is the rage of the gods unfounded Wink
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Post by FatThorDude Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:13 pm

From Hunter Biden.

I think he showed all you muppets up.

His art is damn good.

I bet he paid someone to do this for him...will be heard all over the dark internet watering holes of the stupid.

“I don’t paint from emotion or feeling, which I think are both very ephemeral,” Biden said. “For me, painting is much more about kind of trying to bring forth what is, I think, the universal truth.” —Hunter Biden

You don’t say.

“The universal truth is that everything is connected and that there’s something that goes far beyond what is our five senses and that connects us all,” he said. “The thing that really fascinates me is the connection between the macro and the micro, and how these patterns repeat themselves over and over.”

From junkie to truthsayer.

Carl Jung is one of his inspirations.

Hey, sure.

Beware the truthsayers.

Speak for yourself.

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Post by FatThorDude Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:17 pm

U wrote:Dr. Eric.

What makes the conservatives most stupid?

What makes their inner life less beautiful?

I grew up liberal and to this day defend many of those values.

After November of '16 with that email drop I saw something very scary and had to change course.

Am I a duped fool?

Is the rage of the gods unfounded Wink

Yes, you are a duped fool, bird brain.

Easiest diagnosis I ever gave.

I’m afraid I have some bad news for you, you have muppetitus and it’s terminal.

What makes them less beautiful?

Their embrace of trumps’s self loathing.

He’s a loser and so are they.

The orange 🍊 muppet knows this instinctively.

The definition of stupidity.

They know he’s full of shit and they love him for it, because they are full of shit.

Birds of a feather stick together.

The aviary is a prime example of ufo muppets.

A muppet is a muppet.

🎺 are zombies.

Your avatar is a self portrait.

He studied pro wrestling to prepare to wow the idiots.

When you look outside of yourself for a savior, you instantly lose.

I’m not liberal or conservative.

Those are muppet concepts.

For the idiot ones.

The sages taught us not to throw stones when we are emotional.

Fuck the child gods.

Don’t believe anything in any email drop or anything that drops from muppets.

Ever.

The rule is, don’t ever go full muppet.

Or you will get stuck that way.

Look inside yourself.

You know what to do.

And if you are too dumb not to see this, I could never explain it to you.

Maybe you could sit in front of some Hunter Biden paintings until you wake up.

Left foot, For and the chicken can join you.

I guess all those drugs he did knocked something loose.

[snip…….]

(Chivo,

You are taking a bit too much bandwidth on this channel. )

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Post by GSB Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:18 am

More UAP politics ...

The Congressman told us "something's clearly going on" ... but the powers that be think folks can't handle the truth. He also offered up a Biblical theory about the existence of UFOs.


https://www.tmz.com/2021/06/15/congressman-tim-burchett-ufo-uap-sightings-not-russians-from-another-galaxy-biden-putin-meeting/


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Post by GSB Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:22 am

Washington (CNN) Members of the House Intelligence Committee will receive a classified briefing on Wednesday morning on one of the most controversial topics circulating in Washington today: UFOs

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/politics/ufo-report-briefing-pentagon-fighting/index.html


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Post by dan Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:03 pm

2000z……..

Gary,

I continue to be surprised that phenomenology is being pushed forward in DC.  

I have to wonder what’s really behind it.

It is likely that some sort of hidden hand is also involved…… call it an inter dimensional hand, if you will.  

The mundane PtB will not be wanting to rattle any cages.  

Nevertheless, the nuts&bolts people will be wanting to squeeze every last dollar out of the Pentagon/taxpayer.


Someone claims that foot was one of the collaborators with Donald in adding the Disclosure rider to the COVID relief bill.

It was seen as a preemptive move to gain an initial strategic advantage.  

One could say the same of many of the ufo players.  

This would include Salvatore Pais with his Navy patents.

It may explain the heavy bias towards the nuts&bolts…… trying to keep away from the metaphysics.  

It does seem that Jacques Vallee has been moved in this direction as well.  

If you want to play this game, you stay away from the metaphysics.  


0220……..

If foot’s was the preemptive move, what exactly was he preempting?  

There was less concision on that score.  

Let’s just say that there is a drop dead date.  

Spoiler attack is another name for the preemption.  



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Post by FatThorDude Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:48 pm

“Everything is interwoven, and the web is holy.”

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Post by FatThorDude Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:18 am

“Experience without theory is blind, but theory without experience is mere intellectual play.”

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Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:32 am

0730z………

And here we have the voice of experience.  

For how long have you experienced being God?

This is what it comes down to…. about now.  

And, yes, let’s stick with the holy web, if we may, please.

And I’m not saying you haven’t had that experience, Chivo.

It is a real question.

There is nothing quite like being God for a day.

All you have to do is count the days.  

Now that we are in the days of the holy web.  

More than one person can have that experience at the same time, especially now that we have the holy web.  

And all we have to do is act natural.  

And not let foot 🦶 get our goat 🐐.  

And understand the spoiler attack strategy.  

This is how cosmic democracy works……. you just have to find the polling place.  

And it is first come, first serve.  

And the first shall be the last.  

And, yes, this is a spoiler alert 🚨, sports fans.  

And this holy web…… it is a tangled web.  

We aim to please…….. you aim, too, please!  

Way out here, we don’t got no polling boxes 📦, we just have a polling portal 🚪.

It’s also called the Monad 🏔.  

The only admonition is…… sin no more.  


1100………

What some folks haven’t quite figured out is that God don’t need no damn portals 🚪.  God just needs to know someone with portal access.  

chick 🐣 wagers he does.  

ftgm might decide to come in out of the cold.  

Anger can warm the soul, but only for so long.  

Does foot 🦶 have asbestos bvds?  Maybe 🤔…… maybe not.  

We’ll see.  

He can be hard to pin down.  

A classmate back at high school was John Sipos….. he worked the silos.  

Hey, that rhymes.

It is a tangled web.  



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Post by hobbit Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:32 am

No surprise then that the Romans invented Christianity to control the web?

And no surprise to find the Christian churches and cathedrals plonked right smack damn on the portal points of that web?

Divide et empera.

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Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:35 am

Maybe those Romans weren’t quite as stupid as they looked.

What would you’re Uncle Fibonacci have to say about that?

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