With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Rue she said Protection Rooster's Crow Confusion One thing else to end the deed -- A dog with no Illusion. ~ Walter Wangerin Jr., Book of the Dun Cow
The revolutionary thing in IIT isn’t related to the human brain—it’s that consciousness isn’t biological at all, but rather is simply this value, phi, that can be calculated if you know a lot about the complexity of what you’re studying.
In our formalization, this is a map Sys E−→ Exp from the system class Sys into a class Exp of experience spaces, which, first, sends each system S to its space of possible experiences E(S), and, second, sends each state s ∈ St(S) to the actual experience the system is having when in that space, St(S) → E(S) s 7→ E(S, s) .
Two weeks to go on my shift. Then I will be set Adrift. The Chicken is not even Miffed. Hope my time goes Swift. All on this freak show are Tiffed. Loony Bin is Chicken's gift.
Left foot and his material friends are the lost ones.
Ridiculous pretenders that they are.
I taste their fear.
How does one approach the ineffable?
Presence.
As I have taken a deep dive into the ineffable, I find it leaves its mark.
We try to raid the ineffable holy city in many ways.
But we actually abide there, but are mostly unaware of this.
That is why when we are at peace, we can realize where we are.
Dan’s train trip is a trip through the ineffable.
At depths high and low, you contend with a kind of pressurization sickness if you aren’t careful mucking around in the innards of consciousness and or the heights of nous.
There are men who stare at goats and then there is being a goat.
All who claim to know workings of the ineffable are liars.
All my words are lies.
There is no hive or Princess.
Those are constructs of very small minds.
Do away with them with the wave of your hand.
And the of your ass.
No human mind can really penetrate this.
But consciousness is all we know, right?
If one looks into hallucination and the surreal, one can come at the problem of consciousness sideways.
It isn’t a problem at all.
Consciousness is deeply linked with space and time, chicken and the egg.
Science has new theories about it popping up all the time.
The original ancient science had more respect for the unseen, but deeply felt.
DRUGS AREN'T NEARLY AS HALLUCINOGENIC AS IDEAS
So they gave us ways to manage our thinking.
“When an idea is hallucinogenic, it is not only believable, it is life-changing. Every idea, ranging from God, to anxiety, to self-consciousness, is a form of hallucinogenic stimuli capable of altering an individual’s entire experience of life. By expanding your definition of hallucinations, you can develop the ability to see the invisible forces pulling everyone's strings.”
I have accomplished this for myself and only for myself.
It has given me a power I never could have imagined from above the surface.
A power with words and ideas and people.
I enjoy building people up and enabling them to realize their best lives.
I have played with it in public.
I could cause a lot of trouble.
I have found how to push people and bend them to my will.
But I do not desire really to bend muppets to my will.
I want to help them see this for themselves and take responsibility for themselves.
Even more so as the world falls apart.
I do not wish to leave them to their confusion.
Just look at how religion and politics destroys minds.
Human mind is a young and fragile thing.
It should be treasured and improved in all ways possible.
Sometimes you have to lose it all to find a way.
So it may be our greatest grace to fall into chaos.
No one is a master of chaos.
All fear it.
No one is good.
No one is evil.
We are the open question.
Desire and power are disastrous in 99 out of 100 hundred sets of hands.
Let’s improve that starting with ourselves and own self dissection.
Only then may you go amongst the dark and light ones, following your own path that no one can move you from.
And you will suffer.
And you will often stand alone.
But really, you are never alone.
It just feels that way because the others are distracted.
There is something in the dark.
Playful, menacing, growling.
It plays by tearing us to pieces.
The evil and fearful will sneer at you and tell you are nothing.
But they don’t have your smile.
You know better.
This is why they hate you.
When you smile like you mean it, you are god here.
It is your world to do with as you see best do with it.
It is the pearl more valuable than all currencies combined.
It is the greatest wealth a human can accumulate.
I would never trust left foot types and their friends with this power, which is why they cannot access this power, they can only pretend.
The ones in power and their minions are most distracted.
God doesn’t trust us.
I know this because I have the mind of god and I know I don’t trust consciousness or even myself.
I don’t have anything against evil, it is a necessary ingredient.
One must respect power in all its forms.
One should approach with humility and an open heart and mind willing to be torn to shreds.
The invisible heart and mind is closed off by desire of the body.
This is why one has to close themselves off to their desire to draw close to the invisible.
Your perception of it changes once you have passed the threshold of death in life.
Only the penitent shall pass, if you know what I mean.
I have used this awareness of the hallucinatory nature of thinking to decompose myself and it is worth doing.
Take all the drugs.
Do all the meditations.
Have all the pleasure you can.
Listen to all the gurus.
Deny all the gods and daimons.
Embrace them all too.
In these extremes, you gain glimpses, you access something beyond just your own mind and silly desires.
It is just confused thinking to keep anything back from yourself.
Going along to get along is bullshit.
Go as far as you can into your thinking and feeling and then go beyond that.
Then look at yourself and the world with no head.
We have it in us to be incorruptible.
Raise yourself to that standard and then go beyond it.
Never stop.
And remember, resistance is your greatest ally.
I love the left feet of the world for they teach us something so important.
Life is not meaningless.
And while others constantly seek to manipulate you, know that is the evidence of things unseen.
There is hope even for left feet to learn to walk straight.
You just have to find that smile and stick to it.
Smile like you mean it.
I live in the darkness, it’s dark in here.
We don’t know the light yet really.
But we will, it will burst forth in the darkness and will know it as itself.
The light is here to know the dark, not destroy it, but to love it and bring it into itself.
I had my guns loaded.
Ready for a fight.
But we will bring the ground down from underneath you, without firing a shot.
Foot Mann wrote:Two weeks to go on my shift. Then I will be set Adrift. The Chicken is not even Miffed. Hope my time goes Swift. All on this freak show are Tiffed. Loony Bin is Chicken's gift.
Robert Heinlein say's nice side step Foot.
Do you like court documents? I do. Makes for nice auxiliaries to Disclosure.
A few key points from the court filing are:
…in 2017, in cooperation with state officials and that they created a new centralized Governing Coordinating Council (GCC) that brought together both state and federal officials to create an electronic infrastructure for surveilling speech and monitoring “Influence Operators.”
…began formulating and designing the framework for silently violating the free speech rights of US persons by first characterizing speakers as “Influence Operators” (IOs) thereby fabricating a sinister connotation where none exists, as the ideological framework to justify canceling speakers who exercise their right to express their opinion
Document in PDF. Archived offline. https://u8z8g8c2.rocketcdn.me/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/11889-Supplemental-Memorandum-Playbook-Filed.pdf
It would take time for such infrastructure to create an assembled data package of identified individuals...so this was NOT for the 2016 election, but rather for the upcoming one.
In other words by 2017 they'd made the decision to STEAL the next election.
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Rue she said Protection Rooster's Crow Confusion One thing else to end the deed -- A dog with no Illusion. ~ Walter Wangerin Jr., Book of the Dun Cow
Let's just move what Foot sidestepped forward in time a hair...
Cyrellys wrote:
Foot Mann wrote:The Chicken is on the Train. He is searching for a Brain. For the Blog is Lost, before the Frost, while waiting for the Train.
The Chicken is on the Train...
The Chicken is learning to see the train. Contact, chaos, and Synchronicity like a yarn of many strands is all in simultaneous motion. The interrelationships make little sense when you only wish to see a singular strand. But that's not how the universe works. The universe is a rainbow of light reflected in the biomind.
The paradigm of nongovernmental contact is being evolved in a wide spectrum of ways. It is expected this comes with trepidation by those who find it more difficult to impossible to gauge outcomes and feedback loops.
The mongoose can't find the cobra. But I suggest what you see as a cobra is more the gazelle. Are there cobras sure. But in the upward causal link if you "see" it, you will be more likely to create it. Unintentional intent can create monsters...the fabric is malleable.
The fabric is magic if you don't understand what you see of the mechanics...just like Cy is schizophrenic if you don't understand what you see of the mechanics.
Try not to be a blind sniper among friendlies.
biological causal induction..."intent" commands synchronization and desynchronization...malleable.
The base disk...fyi
Synchronization on demand.
....biogeosystemics of vacuum-plenum information subquantum bio-information dynamics.
I'm neither heartless nor schizophrenic; I just find games and idiocy irritating beyond all belief. Especially when it wastes precious time.
Cy
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"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Rue she said Protection Rooster's Crow Confusion One thing else to end the deed -- A dog with no Illusion. ~ Walter Wangerin Jr., Book of the Dun Cow
Humanity has pissed off the Cthulhu, big time.. Our home is their home and we are destroying it. They are very upset about this and are giving us warnings, loud and clear, to stop polluting our planet and, most of all, getting rid of our nuclear warfare and nuclear power plants.
We are all given permission to communicate with them at their "stargates" but only a few are successful at doing that. Nevertheless, their ongoing message is for us to clean up our act and mind the planet. If we don't do that, they will unleash their wrath upon humanity in countless unfathomable ways.
99 wrote:Humanity has pissed off the Cthulhu, big time.. Our home is their home and we are destroying it. They are very upset about this and are giving us warnings, loud and clear, to stop polluting our planet and, most of all, getting rid of our nuclear warfare and nuclear power plants.
We are all given permission to communicate with them at their "stargates" but only a few are successful at doing that. Nevertheless, their ongoing message is for us to clean up our act and mind the planet. If we don't do that, they will unleash their wrath upon humanity in countless unfathomable ways.
99 you are right on the money! I can confidently say the shady practices of the elite and abuse of members of the populace especially those with connections to the gods also play a major role in the reckoning that has already begun.
My suspicion is that that the Disclosure cat is out of the bag.
Various groups and individuals will try to put the cat back in the bag, but with nil success.
I really don’t know how the cat got out of the bag.
Certainly, TTSA had something to do with it…… in conjunction with the NYT.
Yes, the ufo report may attempt to squash the limited hangout…… to little avail.
Most of us will understand that there has been a coverup.
The momentum is on our side.
Folks will understand that there must be more than lights in the sky.
Something is slouching toward Bethlehem.
foot thinks it’s hilarious that chick could be the son of Satan.
He is easily amused.
My understanding, however, is that only angels can incarnate, but I don’t recall the source. Otherwise, I could be son of Sam.
What is different now is that the scientific edifice is likely to collapse, once this cat is out of the bag……
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall Humpty Dumpty had a great fall All the king's horses and all the king's men Couldn't put Humpty together again.
Scientific materialism is like a balloon……. one prick and it’s all gone….. and nature will abhor the intellectual vacuum.
That vacuum can no longer be filled with Cartesian dualism.
Immaterialism will be the only way forward.
You all were speaking of object oriented ontology.
I’m not aware that OOO is coherent…… but, yes, it does come from HP Lovecraft.
The potential horror of OOO can be contained only within the confines of the BPW.
Somehow, we don’t seem to be in Kansas, anymore.
I think there may have been a portal at Alcove Springs……. almost every wagon train went through there, and it is where the first member of the ill-fated Donner party succumbed.
Another point of interest on the Oregon trail is Kaw point.
Folks will understand that there must have been something worth being covered up…… something more than lights in the sky…… something above top secret……. something that presidents must be briefed upon.
For how much longer will that be denied?
donny could let that cat out of the bag….. in a pinch.
Paul Smith’s book about Ike’s alleged encounter is a case in point.
How long will it take folks to realize that if we can’t track the phenomenon, we must be doing something else?
Grant Cameron and Keith Kloor have certainly been sniffing around.
How are we going to manage that magic/Majic?
Yes, it’s fair to say that there must be a lot of jockeying for position.
And how many items are being repositioned…… in anticipation.
Imagine the impending hubbub inside the Vatican. The Vatican library is likely being rescruitinized.
Tom DeLonge and the Grey Lady do make for strange bedfellows.
Has Tom been run to ground?
Where is the Princess when we need her?
There was an intermediary I was supposed to contact……. Rob.
I bet he paid someone to do this for him...will be heard all over the dark internet watering holes of the stupid.
“I don’t paint from emotion or feeling, which I think are both very ephemeral,” Biden said. “For me, painting is much more about kind of trying to bring forth what is, I think, the universal truth.” —Hunter Biden
You don’t say.
“The universal truth is that everything is connected and that there’s something that goes far beyond what is our five senses and that connects us all,” he said. “The thing that really fascinates me is the connection between the macro and the micro, and how these patterns repeat themselves over and over.”
From junkie to truthsayer.
Carl Jung is one of his inspirations.
Hey, sure.
Beware the truthsayers.
Speak for yourself.
—I wear a crown of flowers upon my thorny head
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The Congressman told us "something's clearly going on" ... but the powers that be think folks can't handle the truth. He also offered up a Biblical theory about the existence of UFOs.
Washington (CNN) Members of the House Intelligence Committee will receive a classified briefing on Wednesday morning on one of the most controversial topics circulating in Washington today: UFOs
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