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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

    First topic message reminder :

    We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

    Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

    Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

    https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


    Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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    Post by dan Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:23 pm

    So, yes, the Eschaton con is just the biggest con of all.  

    But, with all of eternity as our playing field, can’t we just have one little, best possible eschaton?

    Haven’t we all paid our admission fee?

    Otherwise, there will be an awful lot of disappointed folks out there, demanding their money back.

    If we don’t pull a string or two, everyone will be carrying an AR15, and wearing a dynamite vest.

    I mean the best amount of chaos is wonderful, but really……..

    Can’t we have too much of a good thing?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:39 pm

    I care about living our best life now, all I have ever preached on OMF.

    I can’t relate to Eschatons et al I guess because I had my own personal Eschaton.

    Ironic someone so about personalism can’t help equip others to initiate themselves through their own Eschaton portal.

    I love muppets more than you I guess.

    I love them as myself and I’ve put the time in.

    Have you?

    And you have to love all of this as it is.

    Why would we be born over and over?

    I guess to realize and love this.

    That’s the best I have.

    A little idealistic but mostly practical approach to how to live in this insane world filled with stupid muppets.

    I love them stupid and I love them thoughtful.

    But there isn’t really anything to say once you have settled things personally and until one does this, they aren’t living a full life.

    That hurts me.

    Do you feel that pain?

    You all causally talk of depopulation.

    That demonstrates a fundamental ignorance about life in my smelly opinion.

    But I can’t judge you.

    We all judge ourselves more than enough until we snap out of it.

    The daimons are my friends and the angels can’t know us.

    They can’t stop looking at god or they will fall from Paradise.

    So we should make the best of it.

    I’d rather just play cards with my daimons by the pool and shoot the shit about life and death.

    Maybe I don’t want to live as a being enraptured by god for eternity.

    I’d like the freedom to say fuck off god for awhile now and then.

    And maybe god would prefer we choose Paradise and walk back in the front gate on our own strength, granted with a lot of help.

    Luckily I don’t believe in god.

    So the gate must be my own life here now.

    I’ll not be such a fool anymore to ignore my invitation to my own best life.

    And I’ll be skeptical of any moron muppet who claims more than their own life.

    I will torture them mercilessly.

    Maybe I should be the devil for awhile in the game.


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    Post by dan Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:46 pm

    Oh, ok, I get it, you think of the eschaton as some sort of depopulation scheme, just like Cy.

    I understand that, but that’s not what I’m talking about.  

    chick is not squawking about an ELE.

    I’m actually talking about the Rapture…….. you know, code stuff…… this is all above top secret, of course……. just between you, me and the fence post.  

    I didn’t want to offend your anti xian sensibilities…… thoughtful me.  

    We’re talking about the joy Ride in the sky…… with a big ‘R’.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:55 pm

    The rapture and all such stories are part of the con.

    Seems best to be enraptured.

    Rapture is personal.

    Oh yah, just you me and the fence post.

    I don’t know what your game is, you play yours and I’ll play mine.

    I trust we will synchronize when we need to.

    The one you are playing is best for you now.

    Hiding is evil.

    It’s a tell of ignorance and fear.

    There is no justification for it.

    For got upset because we got too personal with him, so he backed away.

    Hiding.

    Well, I am with you, drag the lies out into the light.

    Personal privacy is an illusion.

    Anyone wants to know the bad shit I have done in my life, I’d be happy to list it all out.

    I never hurt kids.

    I never raped anyone.

    I never killed anyone.

    I never stole anything from anyone.

    If someone has, forgive yourself and make the best of the life left.

    Hiding won’t help anything at all.

    So nothing is too secret or above it or below it.

    Good and bad are illusions.

    Things happen.

    People hurt each other an love each other.

    And the world keeps spinning.

    While the gas chambers billowed human smoke, the world kept spinning.

    Our people insurrected and then they doubt anyone was killed or that they even did it.

    My god the lies we tell ourselves.

    In my opinion to nature, human cognition was successful to spread us out upon the earth.

    But it was terrible for the earth.

    If the earth is just a pupae, then I guess we did our job and things are best they can be.

    The world is indeed pregnant.

    Will it be an abortion or still born or a thriving star child born?

    At this rate, maybe an abortion would be best.

    But that is way above my pay grade to speculate about.
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    Post by dan Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:24 pm

    Ok, the world is pregnant.  

    We’re expecting a star child, or call it the Monad, if you will.

    So, yes, our cosmic shell is cracking.  

    I don’t see anything hidden about this.

    This is just the Ouroboros swallowing it’s own tail……. Omega =>> Alpha.  

    Disclosure is how we get folks on board……. synchronization, if you like.  

    Someone might object to the timing, but for how long are we expected to kick this can down the road?  

    Obviously, history has got to be a closed timelike curve (CTC).

    Closure needs to be somewhere.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:39 pm

    You, nor god, need my approval Wink

    You can ban me from OMF whenever you like.

    I can easily be muted.

    If we persist, I promise to be a free radical within the star Like a Star @ heaven 👶 and hopefully make it a little smelly.


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    Post by dan Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:41 pm

    Wait, I thought you were God.

    You mean I’ve been wasting all this time on a nobody?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:08 pm

    I was referring to your god Wink

    And yes, I’m the only god I know 🐐

    Do the other gods know themselves?

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    Post by dan Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:18 pm

    I think it would be hilarious if you turned out to be the xian God.  

    You are kind of a shirker.  

    They make the best gods, I hear.

    That way we’d know for sure that it is a small world…….. really tiny!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:43 pm

    We are all the Christian god and all the lessor gods, that’s pretty small.

    Loki would be a good analogue for smelly goat.

    Just most never wake up to what we are.

    Have I woken up?

    Only to my ignorance about knowing anything Wink

    You just have to be what you are.

    So let’s not talk about god with smelly goat.

    If god I be, a smelly goat is my chosen face to converse with you.

    I feel when one chooses their own name and face, then that’s what they are.

    But god can’t be here as god.

    It is here as all of this.

    Hermetics has some of the words to describe this relationship better I feel.

    I Am is a statement of god in human form.

    I Am smelly goat.

    That as close to a personal god as I will ever know.

    I talk to myself and I answer back with strange things and symbols and synchronicities.

    Am I connecting with the eternal mind?

    You won’t ever seriously hear me say I believe anything.

    I will constantly contradict myself with words.

    But I know something.

    And I can only grunt and point at it.

    The connection is very tenuous.

    I am the loving human part of the connection.

    I am the finite one.

    I am just a reflection of it.

    Some blaze and some glow.

    I like the steady glow myself.

    And would god not be fat and happy upon its lovely earth.

    When you die, one common felling shared by near deathers is how every care in the world fades away instantly and they feel free!

    I’m sure it’s an illusion, but it makes sense kinda and puts life in perspective.

    Our problems are ours alone.

    The supreme mind is not burdened.
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    Post by U Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:50 pm

    And I myself am a JEALOUS DESERT DIETY!

    Fore, you've been challenged by the god Smelly Goat!

    Have you any defense!?

    You wouldn't let him talk about you that way would U?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:24 am

    Chicken Eschaton coming to your town soon.

    Who says chickens don’t look out for each other?!

    Get on board chickie!

    You don’t want miss your ride.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:27 am

    U wrote:And I myself am a JEALOUS DESERT DIETY!

    Fore, you've been challenged by the god Smelly Goat!

    Have you any defense!?

    You wouldn't let him talk about you that way would U?

    Bow down 🪱 worm!

    Or I shall make you a muppet again!

    A fate worse than death.

    For is out there saving the world.

    Too busy to play with us I’m sure.

    He’ll be back with some scriptures from the Book of Lies soon enough I’m sure.

    I wrote the Bible to fool the dumb muppets.

    Easier to gather them all together in their churches for the great chicken rapture of 2021.

    If you get left behind, cause a chicken ufo is pretty cramped, have no fear, we will send the ship back for you in 10k years or so.

    Enjoy your last favorite chicken dish, cause they are all going bye bye.

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    Post by GSB Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:06 am

    In case anyone had any doubts, welcome to tic tac eschatology:



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:57 am

    GSB wrote:In case anyone had any doubts, welcome to tic tac eschatology:


    A Chicpocalypse!

    Best thing for us really.

    We never considered the best possible world means we are not in it.
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    Post by dan Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:15 pm

    The scientific has been caught flatfooted with both the lab leak virus story and with ufos.

    foot, of course, has been involved with both stories.  

    He did come out against the lab leak theory early on.  That’s when I said I would be glad to take credit.

    With the lab leak theory finally going mainstream, we have to wonder how foot will modify his story.  

    Much speculation hinges on whether the so-called ‘furin cleavage site’ could be natural or not.  

    Either way, I can still claim credit for the best possible pandemic 😷.  No?  

    Both the virus 🦠 and the ufo report could be seen, each in their own way, as ‘spoiling attacks’.  

    The final credit on both may have to go to foot 🦶, but, hey, foot is my boy.  No?  

    As to exactly who is spoiling whom……… that does remain a bit up in the air.  

    I guess we’ll just have to stay tuned.  

    In both cases, the scientific community is going to have to reimagine its entire raison-d’être.  

    The plot is thickening.  

    Could the timing be more auspicious?  

    In both cases, we’d like to think that foot 🦶 and chick 🐣 maintain the high road, keeping in mind that foot is my very own, best possible bad cop 👮‍.  

    And about the Princess 👸’s philosophy group…….. I finally figured out that they must be holding their philosophy meetings on the other side.  

    There have to be other folks doing the best possible philosophy somewhere.  



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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:18 pm

    Satan's Son thinks Aloud, a quiet moment as under Shroud. No thoughts emerge that merit Hearing, his mind shut down from random Mirroring. All he sees has been in Motion, the vectors call without Emotion. Perhaps he should watch https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12483708/
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    Post by dan Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:04 pm

    By attempting to cram so much information into a brisk running time, Doors never quite gets to the heart of the overall story it is trying to tell.
    Hmmm 🤔……. Golly…… we wouldn’t want a spoiler movie 🍿, now, would we? 🐣

    But, yes, they are contagious…… https://www.foxnews.com/world/infamous-tic-tac-ufo-spotted-by-u-s-navy-pilot-now-seen-over-england
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    Post by hobbit Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:23 am

    Foot Mann wrote:Satan's Son thinks Aloud, a quiet moment as under Shroud. No thoughts emerge that merit Hearing, his mind shut down from random Mirroring.  All he sees has been in Motion, the vectors call without Emotion. Perhaps he should watch https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12483708/




    Someone's knocking at the door.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:42 am

    Our thinking is often confused, left 🦶 is a good example, not too bright.

    Much is not in our control, so have no worry about those things you can’t control.

    Don’t worry about conspiracies.

    Then you can smile 😊  like you mean it.

    The fool fights existence, fights the big con.

    I only respect the opinions of those who can reason about and flow with life.

    Hiding insulting cowards are irrelevant, but humorous.

    We certainly can’t control what others think and do.

    Power is insatiable and insecure.

    The effort we waste manipulating others is our loss.

    We simply need not have a care how others want us to be or how they are.  

    All we can do writing on blogs is maybe challenge assumptions and biases in pursuit of open honest dialogue with each other.

    Psychedelics helped me to see these things, not in others, but in myself. Things are intimately connected and each has their own view.

    This proves I am not a Solipsist Dan, for I do recognize and engage other minds in the holy web of being, I just don’t care what problems or dreams others have, all problems and flights of fancy can be overcome through wisdom and pragmatic clarity.

    I endeavor to constantly clarify my thinking engaging with others and do away with what isn’t needed. So this is why I think being naked before each other is best.

    Strip down to your first principles and life is incredibly simple.

    This could be helpful to the worried conspiracy theorists if they let things fall away not needed and are left simply with their own lives in their small world, which each can only confront on their own.

    To let things happening grip you, is to give away the little power you have over your own thinking.

    Do better.

    Being cryptic and coded is useless unless you are tying to obfuscate what is simple and clear.

    A spy by definition is committed to careful observation and subterfuge.

    And why do we hide, fear, because all power is ultimately insecure.

    Fear of our dark actions being exposed.

    Be direct and say what you mean and mean what you say or really, you are just mentally masturbating and confused.

    Iron sharpens iron. Bring your confusion and be honest about it.

    For surely, unless you know yourself, you know nothing.

    And if you do know yourself, you will open like a flower.

    We can easily abide all fools.

    We are here for you left feet, no matter how many heads you have, awaiting when you choose to really engage nakedly.

    Until then.

    Kindness is invincible.
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    Post by jofo Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:39 am

    "We can easily abide all fools."

    when you're the creator, you can accept all things...if you want to.

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    Post by 99 Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:21 pm

    It’s been said that China and/or Russia have developed hypersonic technology that’s far beyond what the US has.

    If the Pentagon ufo report states that this is true and that they have evidence to back up their claims on that… we’re in big, big trouble.

    Are we prepared for the changes that are going to take place once China or Russia (or both) take over the US?

    Or does this mean that the winds of war are upon us?
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    Post by U Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:50 pm

    99 wrote:It’s been said that China and/or Russia have developed hypersonic technology that’s far beyond what the US has.

    If the Pentagon ufo report states that this is true and that they have evidence to back up their claims on that… we’re in big, big trouble.

    Are we prepared for the changes that are going to take place once China or Russia (or both) take over the US?

    Or does this mean that the winds of war are upon us?

    If China and Russia have the tech most likely the US had it first. Phillip Corso's "The Day After Roswell" goes into detail about how non human crash retrieval technology was funneled into private industry for research and development and for back engineering. The nazi scientists involved with Project Paperclip had a lot to do with it too. The stories of people like Corey Goode and Randy Kramer are clearly bunk but the idea of a secret space program has only gained more and more traction as the years have gone on. Even our very own Smelly Goat has alluded to the existence of very exotic weaponry although as far as I can tell he doesn't believe the source is from the non humans. Indeed I think if we are expecting an attack from China and or Russia via Tic Tacs you can also expect a fleet of Black Triangles to defend the states. At that point the "future shock" really begins to set in.

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    Post by 99 Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:59 pm

    Ok, so the US is keeping their cards close to their chest. Our adversaries know this hence why they haven't attempted a take over yet.

    Whatever they have, we have too; and it's probably more advanced. It goes without saying that the public is out of the loop on all of this but that may change a little... at the end of this week.

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