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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

    First topic message reminder :

    We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

    Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

    Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

    https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


    Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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    Post by hobbit Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:43 am

    dan wrote:Maybe those Romans weren’t quite as stupid as they looked.  

    What would you’re Uncle Fibonacci have to say about that?

    He'd tell Me to learn to spell..

    Divide et impera.

    He'd tell Me to look through the vedic scriptures and find Him there , especially in the fire pits.

    He'd tell Me to attune to the web, to plot it, to measure it, to draw it out, to look without My eyes.

    To then attune to that which flows and travels about on the web, and to become one with it, to learn and listen to it.

    To realise it is the supplier and equal taker back of all creation.

    To comprehend that those who seek to abuse it are doomed to fail.

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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:51 am

    https://www.wate.com/news/rep-burchett-says-somethings-going-on-that-we-cant-handle-when-asked-about-ufos/
    Hmmm 🤔……….

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    Post by hobbit Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:54 am

    dan wrote:https://www.wate.com/news/rep-burchett-says-somethings-going-on-that-we-cant-handle-when-asked-about-ufos/
    Hmmm 🤔……….

    "Access restricted"

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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:57 am

    It’s not really restricted…….. it may just be a bit of a squeeze.
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    Post by hobbit Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:03 am

    dan wrote:It’s not really restricted…….. it may just be a bit of a squeeze.  

    "To those in the European union"

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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:06 am

    What????????

    Where is that coming from???
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    Post by hobbit Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:06 am

    Somebody needs to ask Your Mr Burchett how He knows that UFOs are not from this galaxy.

    Has He been everywhere in this galaxy?

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    Post by hobbit Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:08 am

    dan wrote:What????????

    Where is that coming from???

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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:41 am

    hobbit,

    You and Congressman Burchett may have different definitions of ‘galaxy’.

    He is using the astronomical definition, as we can see from the rest of the interview.

    In regard to the European Union 🇪🇺, which particular article are you referring to @wate.com?

    Rep. Burchett pretty clearly indicates that folks are not going to sit still for merely lights in the sky…… there is something else going on.



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    Post by hobbit Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:50 am

    dan wrote:hobbit,

    You and Congressman Burchett may have different definitions of ‘galaxy’.

    He is using the astronomical definition, as we can see from the rest of the interview.

    In regard to the European Union 🇪🇺, which particular article are you referring to @wate.com?  

    The one You posted .

    A galaxy is a galaxy, unless of course You have access to the star ship enterprise.

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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:57 am

    Silly, hobbit,

    Astronomical galaxies have nothing to do with where we are about to go.  

    You just can’t get that through your thick little head.

    Rep Burchett has a much better understanding of that than you do.

    And, yes, little hobbit, we do have access to the Starship Enterprise/Entanglement/Eschaton.

    According to the other source, donny 🐜 really didn’t get much of a briefing……. and maybe he has ADHD……. it wasn’t really about him.



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    Post by U Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:00 am

    Dan.

    For some reason Hobbit can't always access certain articles or videos that we can stateside. I'm not a techie but it seems to be mostly a regional issue of some things being blocked by his internet provider most likely.
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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:03 am

    It may be more than just an electronic glitch.

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    Post by hobbit Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:53 am

    dan wrote:Silly, hobbit,

    Astronomical galaxies have nothing to do with where we are about to go.  

    You just can’t get that through your thick little head.

    Rep Burchett has a much better understanding of that than you do.

    And, yes, little hobbit, we do have access to the Starship Enterprise/Entanglement/Eschaton.

    According to the other source, donny 🐜 really didn’t get much of a briefing……. and maybe he has ADHD……. it wasn’t really about him.  



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    Dan,

    Why do You demean Yourself so often in this manner?

    Your words will never upset Me , You can call Me anything You like it is all water off a ducks back...quack quack.

    I have always been different, I went totally grey at eleven years old and had to deal with that , I did in a more direct manner when those insulting Me kept falling asleep, but there is always another moron waiting in line, so eventually I learned to see it was their problem, not mine, and just laughed at them.

    Apart from chocolate galaxies the only galaxy I recognise is the big swirly ones they say are held together by gravity, again I just laugh at such moronic ideas , so if this dude say's UFOs are from another galaxy, are they?

    If He means another dimension then He would have My attention.


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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:03 am

    hobbit,

    You have to understand politicians…….

    They have to speak to everyone.  

    To say that the visitors are coming from another dimension sounds new agey and crazy to most folks.  

    To say they come from another galaxy sounds much more sane, and conveys the same meaning to a much broader spectrum.  

    So, yes, he is trying to say that they come from another dimension……. so, now, does he have your attention?

    He has my attention.

    This is exactly where immaterialism and eschatology come into the picture.  

    What does Fibonacci have to say about immaterialism?

    But Burchett doesn’t stop 🛑 with just other dimensions……

    By going further, and raising the possible biblical/prophetic aspects, he is clearly broaching on the topic of the end times.

    When our representatives start alluding to the end times, then you know that something is afoot.

    It would explain a great deal about the motivation behind the seventy year coverup…… it’s more than just about mean minded aliens.  

    The Endtimes do not enter into Fibonacci’s mathematics…… not directly, at least, but indirectly they do, I can assure you.  

    It has to do with the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics…… which speaks directly to immaterialism.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:47 am

    “That kindness is invincible, provided it’s sincere—not ironic or an act. What can even the most vicious person do if you keep treating him with kindness and gently set him straight—if you get the chance—correcting him cheerfully at the exact moment that he’s trying to do you harm. “No, no, my friend. That isn’t what we’re here for. It isn’t me who’s harmed by that. It’s you.”

    —Marcus Aurelius

    Being smelly is my kindness.

    Speaking about the end times has always been and will be a metaphor about our own death.

    Those who dwell on the end times, are sick with death.

    They shall die soon enough, have no fear, we all will die.

    But we are here and can make the best of it in the worst of times.

    If Dan thinks that left 🦶 and his confused friends could ever match or beat kindness, he’s wrong.

    Let me whisper into god’s ear...

    Kindness is how you know yourself.

    When kindness has filled you, no one can deter you.

    For the one you have to learn to be kind to best, is yourself.

    I am sincere here on OMF.

    Are you?

    Are you kind to yourself and others?

    Practice that first or really you have absolutely nothing.

    And then you die.

    Was this worth your kindness?

    Death is most kind.

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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:02 am

    Chivo,

    For several years, I’ve been searching for a common ground with hobbit.  

    It seems that he is finally responding positively to the notion of the inter dimensional.  

    All I can say is Hallelujah!

    I suppose I might have guessed this earlier.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:06 am

    Yuh are getting with the program is all.

    Hallelujah!

    I asked the supreme mind what all this nonsense was about in matter.

    I heard, to learn to hold one another as you are held.

    With unbreakable bonds.

    Truly, we are each other’s keeper.

    As our social bonds disintegrate, our true connection is exposed.

    This will relax and calm you as one realizes it.

    While the storm rages, we do not.

    So yes Q, bring the storm.

    I’ll be here smiling at you.

    Smiling like I mean it.

    Be kind, please rewind.

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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:14 am

    Just understand, Chivo, that social Darwinism is a curse upon this land, especially amongst those who like to consider themselves intellectuals.  

    It may also influence the thinking of many ‘deplorables’.  

    The only way to combat social Darwinism is with the small world.  

    You never understood this.

    This is what happens when you refuse to acknowledge the crucial nature of Truth…….. when folks run riot with their often ill-considered personal opinions.  

    It’s time for folks to reconsider the possibility that we all inhabit the same creation……… of which we happen to be the coCreators.  

    This is where the consideration of inter dimensionality and immaterialism will inevitably lead us.  

    I don’t know if Representative Tim Burchett has connected these dots, yet, but this is what is coming down the pike…… for all of us……. including especially you, Chivo.



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    Post by hobbit Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:30 am

    dan wrote:Chivo,

    For several years, I’ve been searching for a common ground with hobbit.  

    It seems that he is finally responding positively to the notion of the inter dimensional.  

    All I can say is Hallelujah!  

    It ain't Me babe...."responding" it's You, and fib. holds the key to dimensions which I have been trying to describe , everything in 3D is holding hands magnetically with it's neighbour, but at variant angles are other dimensions, We are closing in on the summer solstice where light and darkness are equal , but the light is not coming from the star, it is the meeting of the stars field relative to the earths field which determines where light occurs, and all of this is upon a lattice framework akin to a multi dimensional web where consciousness takes the route of least resistance across the lattice framework spiralling into the heart centre to reverse and outrush out again, the net implosion been utilised in creation of light/heat.
    The consequence is termed as gravity, there is no gravity , there is the net difference of implosion over outrush in the earths case this at a ratio of 55 over 34.

    If You locally produce an alternate field at variant to this consequence within the earths field You are not then in the consequential field and can divert Your local field polarity and equator along the web in alternate dimensions, You will not then be subject to the earths field or time of such.

    Gravity is time relative to the dominant field You are within, our eyes operate within the dominant field we exist within and thus cannot see a UFO as it trips across dimensions.



    "End times" for what species?

    Humans win....TT Brown.


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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:40 am

    Yes, hobbit does speak of multi dimensions, but only as if they were an extension of our three dimensions.

    No, hobbit, the inter dimensional world is no mere extension of the astronomical world.

    This goes back to Kant and Leibniz……. where the distinction is made between the phenomenal world and the noumenal world.  

    In their thinking, the phenomenal world is merely an epiphenomenon, relative to the noumenal world.


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    dan wrote:Just understand, Chivo, that social Darwinism is a curse upon this land, especially amongst those who like to consider themselves intellectuals.  

    It may also influence the thinking of many ‘deplorables’.  

    The only way to combat social Darwinism is with the small world.  

    You never understood this.

    This is what happens when you refuse to acknowledge the crucial nature of Truth…….. when folks run riot with their often ill-considered personal opinions.  

    It’s time for folks to reconsider the possibility that we all inhabit the same creation……… of which we happen to be the coCreators.  

    This is where the consideration of inter dimensionality and immaterialism will inevitably lead us.  

    I don’t know if Representative Tim Burchett has connected these dots, yet, but this is what is coming down the pike…… for all of us……. including especially you, Chivo.



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    Love thyself.

    Kindness is the only dimension, the rest are illusions.

    Don't I sound like a hippie goat now, oh my!

    It's that california luvin is all.

    Nothing is coming for me, I'm waiting for you all.

    How much smaller do you want to get?

    I do not understand kindness or love or anything else, tis true, but I'm honest about it.

    The small world is an abstraction.

    Loving each other round us is a pretty small world.

    How are you doing with that?

    My own theory is all the militant Jesus talk was fake.

    As no one can say what was real about jesus or not, the only way through that mess, is to use your intuition and experience.

    Kindness is invincible.

    And that is the best we got for each other.

    Nothing more out there is under our control.

    You know how many missionaries I met who destroyed their families and connections to others?

    Legion.

    It is very simple chicken, don't forget that, the goat is here to remind you.
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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:54 am

    Ok, Chivo, let’s talk about kindness……..

    Where does kindness come from?

    Most folks would say that kindness comes from within.  

    Jesus said……. wrongo!

    Kindness comes, ultimately, from God….. the Father.

    Furthermore, Jesus said that mere kindness is not enough.  

    Jesus did not say to be kind to one another.  

    He told us that we would have to love one another.


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    Post by hobbit Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:00 pm

    dan wrote:Yes, hobbit does speak of multi dimensions, but only as if they were an extension of our three dimensions.

    No, hobbit, the inter dimensional world is no mere extension of the astronomical world.

    This goes back to Kant and Leibniz……. where the distinction is made between the phenomenal world and the noumenal world.  

    In their thinking, the phenomenal world is merely an epiphenomenon, relative to the noumenal world.

    No idea what some of those words mean.
    I do not talk as though the dimensions are extensions of three dimensions, all dimensions are omni present.
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    Post by dan Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:04 pm

    hobbit,

    Do you understand what phenomena are?

    This lack of understanding of what phenomena really are, is the source of all our problems.

    Particularly in the modern world, we think that phenomena are out there…… mainly in the three dimensional world.

    No, folks, phenomena are not out there.

    They are in here!

    Ok, you may say, but where is here?



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