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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

    First topic message reminder :

    We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

    Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

    Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

    https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


    Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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    Post by GSB Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:11 pm

    Glomar Response: Neither confirm nor deny



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    Post by U Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:17 pm

    Breakaway Civilizations and Terrestrial Non Humans.
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    Post by 99 Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:11 am

    "So Alien Technology is not evidence of Alien Technology." scratch

    (stated by someone in another forum...)
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    Post by GSB Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:17 am

    Don't rule out Dan's ultra-terrestrial spoofing alien technology idea just yet ... ;-)


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    Post by dan Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:35 am

    1330z........

    Is it just a coincidence that my hand-holder happens to be an avid Trump supporter?

    In the larger scheme of things....... probably not.  

    The message of the portals will be that we’re all about to become one with the One.  

    It’s not totally clear that representative democracy was designed to bring us through this last mile.  

    Does donny have a handle on postmodern democracy?  

    The Princess is holding her counsel.  

    Does donny have a handle on the prophetic tradition?

    Does donny have a handle on agape?

    These are becoming pressing questions.  

    When the manure hits the fan, who’s gonna be in charge?  

    Me thinks the Princess is holding her counsel.  

    Yes, I agree with Gary that we are the targets of a Psyop.  

    But whose Psyop is it?  

    Is this the Psyop to end all psyops?  

    Is this the Mother of all psyops...... MoAPS?  

    Only the Princess 👸 knows for sure.  


    The PtB are telling us that they have no clue.  

    Thems that are talking don’t know, and them that knows ain’t talkin’.  

    Have we been here before?  

    Has the One been one before?  

    Has the One never not been one?  

    Deep down, we all know this.  

    We all know that we are actors strutting upon a stage.

    The curtain is about to rise.  

    There is no audience....... just the One.  

    Santa Clause santa is coming to town.  

    For how much longer will the ufo 🛸 weanies be able to kick their tin can down the road?  

    How much longer will it take the mass media to realize that we’re not in Kansas anymore?

    Irony is that we’re heading to Kansas next week.  

    We’re heading to Manhattan, the capital of the Flint Hills.

    There will be a little orchestration in them thar hills.  


    1450..........

    Here it seems that we are about to have a close encounter with the Cosmos.  

    Only the Princess knows for sure if this will be a close encounter of the fifth kind.  

    Yes, what kind of encounter are we about to have?  

    chicken little 🐣 says that it’s likely to be the best possible encounter.  

    It’s not as if this moment had not been anticipated for all of eternity.

    Is it the moment when history will end....... when the Earth will stand still?

    And we........ do we still have miles to go before we sleep 😴?

    It may be a matter of perspective.  

    And isn’t Uncle Joe spending money as if it were about to go out of style?

    Does he know something that the rest of us don’t?  

    Yes, I will have to ask foot 🦶 if he is still the presidential briefer.  

    Perhaps he would like to give me the phone number of whoever is.  


    1550........

    This is one of the few decent pieces that I’ve seen....... OPINION
    MAUREEN DOWD E.T., Phone Me! ....... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/05/opinion/aliens-ufos-report.html

    This is a shot across our bow.  

    This is just our wake up call ☎.  

    Are we woke?  

    How long will it take us to figure out what is really going on?  


    1750.........

    foot continues to claim that donny is the real president...... as known by the insiders.  

    He doesn’t know who is briefing Uncle Joe. He’s afraid that, if he tries to find out, he might get called in.  

    Kevin has gone missing, and might be on the other side.  

    Grant has done an interview recently with Jaques Vallee, who has a new book out, Trinity, that I’ll be looking at.  


    1800........

    hobbit....... the Earth is in the stars field.  

    Well, ok, let’s just say that the Earth is in the Zodiacal field........ that would be a little more accurate.  

    Jacques asks the obvious question........ why aren’t we talking about the close encounters?

    Well, ok, we’re starting out with Encounters of the first kind.  

    Are we in some big hurry to get to the Fifth kind?  

    Do you really want to cut to the chase?  



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    Post by hobbit Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:53 am

    The earth is stood still, it never moves.

    Consciousness flows and it carries all information.

    Don't You have a clue Dan???

    That was a question.

    The earth is stood still, that has been my driver for years as nothing is moving.

    Gravity/time is displacing relative to the flows of consciousness, but the earth is not moving.

    Your fingers are not moving, they are displacing in the field of consciousness that You are within, and Your field is in the earths field, and the earths field is in the stars field.



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    hobbit wrote:The earth is stood still, it never moves.

    Consciousness flows and it carries all information.

    Don't You have a clue Dan???

    That was a question.

    The earth is stood still, that has been my driver for years as nothing is moving.

    Gravity/time is displacing relative to the flows of consciousness, but the earth is not moving.

    Your fingers are not moving, they are displacing in the field of consciousness that You are within, and Your field is in the earths field, and the earths field is in the stars field.

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    Post by dan Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:59 am

    1200z........

    I continue reading Jacque’s Trinity.

    It is interestingly incomplete.  

    And Jacques has definitely taken a (quite deliberate?) turn toward the mundane....... almost as if he were sidestepping something...... preparing for something.

    The timing ⏱ is certainly interesting.

    The coordination with Paola is noteworthy.  He doesn’t meet her until a couple of years ago.  I had known her as a person of interest in the early ’90’s.  

    And mainly Jacques is resurfacing....... in a strangely focused sort of way.  The writing style is excellent....... stylish.  

    It is being written as a screen play, perhaps.  

    We have to keep in mind that Jacques is in deep with the aviary, but still as a bit of an outrider..... being a foreigner, after all.  I wonder what he makes of the whole ‘foot’ business.  

    I get it........ Jacques is being set up to be the entré to the aviary.  

    How can folks possibly ignore him....... as the connection to the personal side of the phenomenon?

    I believe that Paola showed up with the WSB (Rocky) crowd........ Bootsie being one them.

    Jacques barely touches on the tip of an iceberg of interesting connections.

    He forgets to mention the ‘green fireballs’ being frequently observed at Trinity.  A peculiar oversight.  

    But, yes, Jacques is a walking portal....... wonderfully positioned, at a critical time.  


    1330.........

    Somewhere, somehow....... all those lights in the sky are going to have to touch down....... and here we have ground zero....... conveniently located.  

    Close Encounters, indeed.  

    That statement is important, because it marks the first instance of a kind of interaction between the phenomenon and its witnesses that may be fundamental to our eventual understanding of the UFO problem in general: Witnesses are an integral part of the event.
    If a tree falls in the forest..........



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:56 pm

    The mundane is wonderful.

    Enjoying the bees on the flowers 💐

    Working hard and eating a great meal and having a great sleep is wonderful.

    Making lovez, all just wonderful.

    In need of nothing but our participation.

    Thinking happens, but my best ideas just happen and I act on them in the moment.

    No explanations possible or needed.

    We know what to do.

    We don’t have to worry about things, pointless.

    But we do usually try to help others in distress.

    We learn to give that ant 🐜  or bug 🐛 a wide birth instead of stepping on it.

    We learn to give all life its chance.

    Nature tries a lot of things out.

    Maybe being a crab 🦀 is the best solution in the end.

    Ones who contemplate robbing others of their chance at life are the greatest evil I know.

    For they are unnatural and diseased.

    You are too good for mundane living, huh?

    Then leave already.

    Aren’t we all sidestepping the big hole 🕳 in our awareness?

    You talk incessantly about your gaps and hole in your awareness Dan.

    You orbit the black hole.

    Unlike the other muppets here, I see right through you.

    Watch the mess, still **Under Construction** 🚧

    You are a fool and old one at that.

    But ole dogs can still learn a trick or two.

    Concern about UFO phenomena among the power elite is only about protecting their control.

    Dan and the CIA and many others are their agents and I am an unwitting one.

    A dupe.

    So is Jacques.

    If the power elite could remain in power under a new power structure where they benefit, of course they would, it's human nature, how we have been bred.

    And if you were of the power elite, you would do the same.

    You don't get to that level without total acceptance of The Order.

    This is not a conspiracy theory, this is simple arithmetic.

    Truly, the way to peace is only within.

    A human at war within themselves would never make literal peace.

    This is where psychedelics enter.

    What you could not accomplish on your own due to the corrupting influence of the others, you can with the aid of these great allies called psychedelics.

    But that way is risky, a total reboot of the system, unpredictable if you will lose your mind or not.

    But the patient is very sick and most of us might need this hard medicine.

    Stories about lights in the sky are meant to demoralize and distract us from the only thing worth paying attention to, ourselves, body, mind and essence.

    If one sets their own ship right, then they may have the capacity to offer aid to another, but not until then.

    And only within yourself can you find peace and freedom from the tyranny of the stupid, brilliant, evil and saint.

    It doesn't matter what they do.

    Only you give your peace and poise away.

    This matters to us.

    This is meaningful to us.

    Can a life be lived with no meaning?

    Does desire give it meaning?

    I would say no.

    Does symmetry?

    If you are going to live and die in this, its meaning something to us gives it an intensity otherwise absent.

    Only you can master your mind and your fear.

    No one else can really know your inner depths but perhaps the forces that made you.

    A big clue for those not too stupid or corrupted to see.

    We are easily manipulated until we crystalize.

    Oh yah, fuck central banking and bankers.

    Scum of the earth there.

    Life is radically subjective and we can't be modeled and predicted really.

    More math is not the answer.

    If you are keeping up with economics, I have been learning about gauge theory and studying economics a bit, you learn that economics is not a science.

    "There are no possibilities for controlled experiments and the fundamental building blocks do not behave in ways that can be coherently mathematically described."

    "Austrian economics is based on methodological individualism—the concept that social phenomena result exclusively from the motivations and actions of individuals."

    Fascinating to observe the movement of the world, but it all ties back to people and their arbitray desires and values.  

    Why do these dodos so much think it must all be calculable?

    Science insists things are not scientific if they are not calculable.

    Bullshit.

    My company is using the feeling of adventure to sell its products AND make them!

    How do you quantify adventure?  

    Math is a great tool, but not the penultimate in human experience.

    Some would say going to the bottom of the ocean is or the farthest planet is or climbing the highest rock or finding the biggest prime number.

    I would say, joy here, at rest, is.

    The super intelligent are captured by math's beauty perhaps.

    It happens.

    Math's high priests seem inhuman to me.

    What's the formula for love?

    For happiness?

    For joy?

    For hatred?

    For evil?

    For good?

    Whose good?

    It is an entangled mess.

    They can all take their Theories of Everything to the edge of the black hole in their awareness and toss them in.

    The super intelligent are not necessarily our saving grace.

    Sometimes they do the absolute dumbest things.

    And now we are gong to sick simulated intelligence on the world?

    Hmmm.

    "Eric Weinstein basically doesn’t fully grasp that subjective value cannot be mathematized. Nor can the intuition, motivation, taste, and creativity that drives entrepreneurship and competition and from which literally all economic activity follows, some of which can admittedly be helpfully mathematically characterized, albeit with a pinch of salt."

    "...the principle of reflexivity renders finance irresolvably unscientific. Amongst many wonderfully quotable extracts, Soros writes,

    'The attempt to transpose the methods and criteria of natural science to the social sphere is unsustainable. It gives rise to inflated expectations that cannot be fulfilled. These expectations go far beyond the immediate issue of scientific knowledge and color our entire way of thinking.'"

    Same for studies of consciousness I feel.

    Life is Alchemy, not exact science.

    Psychedelics can have a major impact on this great incalculable part of life and economies, subjective experience.

    Ironic that religion has become a way to align many muppet thoughts at the same time instead of embracing the individual, a vestige of empire I suppose.

    Nationalism is a religion too.

    So of course they have obstructed things that empower the individual to do anything but consume more.

    No one will stop digital currency, central banking will have to adapt and hopefully fall apart. The market will follow the value. We have to let bad ideas die. We can't continue to artificially prop up failure. The market will correct itself.

    What we find valuable and why is relevant to everything happening on earth it seems to me.

    What is a greater thing to sell and consume than God and eternity with a new perfect body that will never die?

    We love to eat that slop up.

    It is not scientific materialism we have to deal with most urgently, for it is actually based on math and non-physical forms.

    "What is rarely considered is that religious ‘Materialism’ might rightly carry the most blame for the rise of philosophical and social Materialism. It’s role in this process rests on the apparent hard split between science and religion which manifested itself most clearly by the middle of the 19th Century. It was at this time when the new theory of evolution and geological sciences cast profound doubt on the literal understandings of the scriptural account of creation, particularly the age of the earth and origin of humans. Of course, it is common to cast the rise of scientific materialism and the theory of evolution as the primary cause of the split between science and religion, but one might also argue that religious ‘materialism’ shares far more blame. In religious theology, the materialistic premise rests on the insistence of the physicality or materiality of things which properly are metaphysical or spiritual.

    So for example Heaven, Hell, angels, resurrection and the narration of creation are taken as physical facts instead of their obvious metaphysical, spiritual or idealistic understanding. It could be said that mainstream religions’ insistence on the materialistic understanding of these ideas made belief completely untenable for rational scientific thought. Thus, the rejection of idealism in both religious and scientific thought made reconciliation between the two an absolute impossibility.
    This literalist materialistic view of religion is common in all the Abrahamic religions, though in Judaism this tendency appears less so due to the fact that there is a general lack of insistence on literalism even in orthodox Judaism."
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    Post by dan Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:59 am

    1100z........

    What we have always found valuable is love.  

    Love has always been the top dollar........ as a medium of exchange.  

    Love can even outmaneuver Bitcoin, as a medium of exchange.  

    But, yes, the long knives are coming out, on the eve of Disclosure.  

    Love is gentle as a dove, and wise as a serpent.  

    Love has the longest knife.  

    And, if you can touch agape, you have the cosmic knife.  

    And, we have Diana to offer to Jacques, if he can manage a threesome.  

    Jacques seems to manage the details, when it comes to tracking the PoI.  

    Kevin has an interesting vantage, out there in Springdale.  He has an interesting corner on some interesting markets........ his own little threesome........ and then some.  

    I think we can believe that Hollywood is scrambling.  

    As for Joe F and Steve G........ we’ll have to let foot worry about them, for the time being.  

    But gosh, I almost forgot about donny.  

    We wouldn’t want to forget about donny...... speaking of long knives 🔪.  

    I don’t know about you, but I think I’ll be watching how the midterms are shaping up........ keeping an eye on Liz, of course.  

    It is an interesting portal, out there in San Antonio....... talk about a hotspot....... a lot of irons in that fire 🔥.  

    Everyone will be wanting to game the new system.  

    Well okay ✅....... game’s on.  

    Little chick 🐣....... he’s putting his money 💰 on the little guy.  

    And, before we know it, we’ll be one with the One ☝.  

    Folks’ll wanna know....... what’ll be happening with the Millennium, with all this repositioning.  

    That’s a good question.  

    We’d better take it under advisement.  


    1400.........

    Supposedly, Joe Firmage has a new book out, in the last few weeks.  

    My unsuccessful attempt to find the book did turn up this article....... https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/u-s-military-takes-ufos-seriously-why-doesn-t-silicon-ncna1264107

    foot is not enamored with the Diana P threesome.  

    He insists that donny remains in charge of non-Disclosure.  

    donny is mainly interested in making money on the new inventions that will be coming out of the new technology, a là Philip Corso.  

    I guess donny remains in charge of the DC portal...... despite being in Mara Lago.  

    At foot’s suggestion, I also have calls into Steve Greer and ftgm.  

    I’m just not that taken with the notion that new technology is going to allow us to keep kicking the Disclosure can down the road.  

    What is different know that is going to turn on the technology spigot again, after sixty years?

    That prospect put on the physics path, sixty years ago.  

    And, twenty years later, that put me on to the path I’m on now.  

    Am I now supposed to reconsider the fork of forty years ago?

    Is Donald Trump going to be our new Philip Corso?  

    ftgm had been much taken with the new technology that was supposedly deriving from the uap’s.  

    Allegedly, donny is promising us bread 🥖 and circuses 🎪, instead of Disclosure.  

    chick 🐣 remains a tad skeptical 🧐.  

    I don’t think that can has far to go........ like all of a sudden.  


    1550.........

    It is surprising that Jacques forgot to mention the green fireballs associated with White Sands, back in the day.  

    Allegedly, my status as a discloser has been revoked due to errors that I’ve made.  The errors have not been specified.  

    If we believe the above, then, ironically, donny has joined the deep state....... or he is setting up a competing branch of it.  

    There is much repositioning.  


    2120.........

    It is understood that Jacques is a core member of the aviary, a group that leans heavily toward the ETH side of Disclosure.  

    However, of that group, he appears to be the most open to the IDH/UTH.   As such, he might be the best possible spokesperson for the Disclosure movement.  

    Of course, he will not be the only such candidate, however, I’m presently not aware of a better possibility.  

    My endorsement of Jacques, would, in some eyes, be tantamount to a kiss of death.  

    Let it be known that I have never had any communication with Jacques.  

    Besides Ron, Kit is the only member with whom I’ve had any significant communication, and that was years ago.  

    Ron is quite sure that this month’s public report will, if anything, only serve to discourage the Disclosure movement.  

    He could be right, but, certainly, the ample pre-publicity has strengthened the movement.  

    The skeptics are running for cover.  

    Ron, however, is warning that the ‘Navy’ videos will subsequently be proved to have been faked by none other than Hal P.  

    Even if that were the case, it is liable only to add fuel to the fire.  People have grown weary of the interminable gamesmanship in this field.  

    Ron would not be Ron, if he were not the interminable contrarian.  

    Ultimately, I have faith in the human ability to rise to any challenge, particularly challenges of a cosmic dimension.

    This cosmic challenge will serve to remind us of our common ground...... in the Source....... in the ground of Being.



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    Post by jofo Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:01 pm

    I'd say job well done...disclosure happened and almost no one seems to care.
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    Post by dan Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:14 pm

    Jofo,

    Well, let’s just say that the highwater mark of materialism has been....... marked.  

    Admittedly, most will not agree, initially......... but just you wait......

    The metaphysical openness of folks like Jacques will gradually come to the fore.  

    The starry messengers have arrived....... and they have no message?  

    I don’t think so.  

    I don’t think that will stick.  

    I have never met anyone who was that stupidly incurious.  

    Have you?

    Beneath all the insouciance of our initial reaction, there will be a groundswell of....... cosmic wakefulness....... shock and awe is another phrase that comes to mind.  

    There will be a growing awareness that history has not just been a tale full of sound and fury.  

    History has been a conveyor belt........ and here we are...... delivered up to our Destiny.  

    From here...... it will only be a small step to Eternity.

    Eternity?

    What is Eternity......... if it is not being one with the One?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:39 pm

    I don’t do threesomes myself.

    Love is selfish sometimes.

    The smelly goat is a one woman goat Wink

    The Goddess won’t let me out of her sight.

    No one can handle how smelly I am anyway.

    Best to keep me at a distance and throw me some good grass now and then.

    Disclosure and the literal mental meltdown of our culture is giving me indigestion and I am quite gassy.

    🐐💨

    We agree on one thing Dan, Love will surely find a way.

    Love didn’t give up on me and helped me find my way.

    I am love and love is me is a big revelation.

    I am god and god is me.

    The least I can do is pass on my smelly love to the deserving.

    Hope y’all are having as much fun as we are.

    And we don’t need anymore books or articles.

    That ain’t gonna do nuthin.

    And the orange turd is mentally ill.

    He won’t be around long.

    I recently reconnected to some of my old Christian friends.

    I was saddened to see 2 in 10 love Trump, but the rest think he’s a horrible cancer on the church.

    Have me a little hope.

    I decided to try to meet my religious friends where they are.

    It’s been fairly positive so far.

    Some are impossible to meet on neutral ground, they condemn me to hell, but most are open and curious about why I left the church and how things are going.

    Fun fun.

    I have to treat them like little children.

    But that’s ok.

    I can do that.

    I don’t share my experiences anymore.

    Mystics have to hide their mysticism.

    Scares religious people.

    When you say inner connection they immediately think the devil.

    And if you tell them the devil was misunderstood, can’t go any further with them.

    We should talk and compare notes when we can with muppets.

    I quite enjoy being a heretic and sticking my finger in the holy water.
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    Post by dan Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:49 pm

    Thanks, Gary,

    It was a good segment.


    Chivo just can’t contain his feeling of superiority.

    You just wait....... you’ll get your turn.
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    Post by Cyrellys Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:47 pm

    dan wrote:1100z........

    What we have always found valuable is love.  

    Love has always been the top dollar........ as a medium of exchange.  

    Love can even outmaneuver Bitcoin, as a medium of exchange.  

    But, yes, the long knives are coming out, on the eve of Disclosure.  

    (snip)

    But gosh, I almost forgot about donny.  

    We wouldn’t want to forget about donny...... speaking of long knives 🔪.  

    I don’t know about you, but I think I’ll be watching how the midterms are shaping up........ keeping an eye on Liz, of course.  

    It is an interesting portal, out there in San Antonio....... talk about a hotspot....... a lot of irons in that fire 🔥.  

    Everyone will be wanting to game the new system.  

    (snip)

    1400.........

    Supposedly, Joe Firmage has a new book out, in the last few weeks.  

    My unsuccessful attempt to find the book did turn up this article....... https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/u-s-military-takes-ufos-seriously-why-doesn-t-silicon-ncna1264107

    foot is not enamored with the Diana P threesome.  

    He insists that donny remains in charge of non-Disclosure.  

    donny is mainly interested in making money on the new inventions that will be coming out of the new technology, a là Philip Corso.  

    I guess donny remains in charge of the DC portal...... despite being in Mara Lago.  

    At foot’s suggestion, I also have calls into Steve Greer and ftgm.  

    I’m just not that taken with the notion that new technology is going to allow us to keep kicking the Disclosure can down the road.  

    (snip)

    Allegedly, donny is promising us bread 🥖 and circuses 🎪, instead of Disclosure.  

    chick 🐣 remains a tad skeptical 🧐.  

    I don’t think that can has far to go........ like all of a sudden.  


    1550.........

    It is surprising that Jacques forgot to mention the green fireballs associated with White Sands, back in the day.  

    Allegedly, my status as a discloser has been revoked due to errors that I’ve made.  The errors have not been specified.  

    If we believe the above, then, ironically, donny has joined the deep state....... or he is setting up a competing branch of it.  

    There is much repositioning.  


    2120.........

    It is understood that Jacques is a core member of the aviary, a group that leans heavily toward the ETH side of Disclosure.  

    (snip)

    Ron is quite sure that this month’s public report will, if anything, only serve to discourage the Disclosure movement.  

    He could be right, but, certainly, the ample pre-publicity has strengthened the movement.  

    The skeptics are running for cover.  

    Ron, however, is warning that the ‘Navy’ videos will subsequently be proved to have been faked by none other than Hal P.  

    Even if that were the case, it is liable only to add fuel to the fire.  People have grown weary of the interminable gamesmanship in this field.  

    Ron would not be Ron, if he were not the interminable contrarian.  

    Ultimately, I have faith in the human ability to rise to any challenge, particularly challenges of a cosmic dimension.  

    This cosmic challenge will serve to remind us of our common ground...... in the Source....... in the ground of Being.  



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    Post by Cyrellys Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:54 pm

    Dan, I see you noticed DOJ retrieved the ransom money from the intended recipient.  Not sure I can forgive them for bungling the stolen election, but it is points in their favor.  

    Hello Ron.


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    Post by Cyrellys Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:05 pm

    Jofo it wasn't disclosure.  It was a controlled narrative.


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    Post by dan Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:34 am

    Greetings, Cyrellis,

    I believe there is one thing we need to get straight between us.......

    Do we have the faith that someone can and will guide us into all the Truth?

    Can we further agree that this Truth includes, most significantly, the fact that this Creation is the best possible Creation?

    And perhaps this is something that we all need to get straight.  

    If we can’t agree on this, what can we agree on?

    Furthermore, Cy, our mutual friend, Ron, has laid down the gauntlet......

    His claim is that Donald Trump 🐜 has been made the designated Discloser.  

    Needless to say, the little chick 🐣 contests this designation.  

    But he does agree that the election was stolen.  

    I know this, because I was the one who stole it....... with the best possible virus 🦠, at the best possible time.  

    All is fair in love and war.

    It is is not my intention to give back the election.  

    I don’t necessarily want donny to rot in Hell, but he has done his job.

    It is time for him to step aside.  

    The Truth beckons.  



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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:10 am

    Dan 06082021 440am wrote:
    Furthermore, Cy, our mutual friend, Ron, has laid down the gauntlet......

    His claim is that Donald Trump b-j-c-d890 - Page 32 1f41c.png?v=2.2 has been made the designated Discloser.  


    I was aware of it a long time ago.  Hilary Clinton was the previous choice.  And before her Obama was the reluctant concession for instant popularity.  Hildebeast has been twice promised the steal and lost both times for various reasons...is she still kicking or are we only graced with a degrading clone?  Opinion on that is all over the damn board.  The only thing everyone agrees on is the planet goes ape in simultaneous varieties of war if the little cannibal gets in office.

    Is Biden and Harris any better?  What if I told you Harris will be supplanting Biden soon and then something will happen to put Pelosi in total charge...courtesy of being courted by NATO & Continuity of Government late last year against Trump's command...but he has everything under control?  

    I agree with Ron...Trump is duly elected.  How much he's actually in charge of remains to be seen.  Pope is running his weasel nazi mouth at every opportunity...if an asteroid took out the Vatican, no one would bat an eyelash and life would relax a little.  Just don't nix anymore non-human parents to accomplish grab or toss unacknowledged special access programs up the in the asteroid field.

    People crying about no one talking about disclosure has more to do with 50 million people being on the euthanasia vaccine....that's alot of graves, but hey they prepped by making it ok to run the bodies thru the sewers where the rats can feast and then tear their way into apartments up thru the toilet pipes in the oh so wonderful mega cities they intend to establish in every fema region, after Haliburtons camps do their 72 hour set up and scorch job on the "useless".

    All good right?  

    Meanwhile everyone has a prepared digestible narrative on the Greater Community and the non-human local terrestrials.  Don Schorn's Legacy of the Elder Gods book for layman is generally unnoticed by the system-inhabitant career proletariat who are notorious for being unable to see forests for the trees, but still claim the authority to run the show and dictate reality and history by the way.  Meanwhile their own children are ripping down monuments, running thru the streets in 3am protests, 'er riots, and paying lipservice to a new black militia that will kill whitey then as they say dig whitey back up and kill him again.  Guess they believe in beating dead horses too.  They'd make great cowboys if sent back to 1885 Old West, don't you think?  Ever seen the photos of legit cowboy's emaciated horses?

    Don't even get me started on the Chinese in Canada poised for invasion (wth do you do with 6000 troops to a nation the size of America?...maybe the water system but total take over, um' no.)  or the giant military sized airstrip they're building in Texas with another 6000 troops rumored?  Ok now that makes makes me re-look at all of it including the ones in Mexico and say hmmmm...

    Putin sees Pope as a non-human cannibal ass kisser who's going to turn Italy into a hive of baby eaters.  Tells me the ancient colonists think a new 5000 year cessation of hostilities with the 9 Sephiroth and Source is a necessary renewal to keep the future mentors from ever getting past the proverbial cosmic stone age where they could inherit their job and put a stop to the likes of the cabal not only on Earth but every other world they can reach out to.  The future of the universe depends on whose narrative wins here.  Truth?  

    Truth is the dark side can't have humans finding out how divine they really are.  At the moment they have Earth pinned to the ground.  But we SEE them!

    Is Space Force seriously more than digital satellite desk jockeys?  Solar Warden has gotta start a legit above board, oath bound praiseworthy establishment somewhere in this zoo.

    Tell Ron I hope Trump can do a better disclosure than his part 2 triparte flu vaccine bioweapon, depopulation in the US, and his red-flag law lip service...maybe we should resurrect Old George Washington with a clone just to tell him YES, WE INTENDED AMERICAN'S TO BE TRUTHFULLY INFORMED AND ARMED TO THE TEETH AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC WITH THE GEAR TO TAKE ON THE WORST MONSTERS IN THE UNIVERSE WHEN THE MOMENT ARRIVES.  And maybe a few coup plotters in between all that from time to time.

    Tell him if he ever gets another Twitmo account to FUCKING READ HIS MESSAGES.  We tried to let him know when he was fucking up and there was no response.

    Sigh.  Patton slaps the errant from time to time and then tells the same guy to get his ass back to work and don't screw up this time.  Me? Ditto.

    Cy

    P.S. Helium 6 under Yellowstone a few years back wasn't funny.  The non-human terrestrials had a conniption fit.  Didn't I ask Ron and you to identify a speaker not so long ago?  Epic Fail.

    So which non-humans are which and how do we flip a beeatch?  Some of us have some ideas on that.  Like hoomans, the nons are known for a near infinite variety too.  The good, the bad, and the seriously ugly.

    corporeal and the non corporeal...the terrestrial, the non-terrestrial and the ultra terrestrial...a little something for everyone in THAT soup.  

    Meanwhile we can't get too carried away while adrenochrome is a THANG, and we can't even get an election straight.

    Someone get their head screwed on straight please?  We have a hole we dug ourselves, to dig our way out of.


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    Post by dan Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:57 am

    Thank you, Cy,

    I’ll take that as a ‘yes’…… with some caveats attached.
    ………


    Not everyone here agrees, but no one has come up anything better.

    The BPWH is the only coherent and hopeful worldview to be put forward. There has been no competition.

    Is this the message from the stars?

    The only others that might know, ain’t talkin’.

    It goes by default.



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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:33 am

    dan wrote:Thank you, Cy,

    I’ll take that as a ‘yes’.  

    I don't contest Trump as the Discloser.  I was one of several who said he could do it better than Clinton...he might even get it all accurate, thorough, and fair, or at least an equal opportunity offender if nothing else!

    I sat back and watched him create Space Force.  A necessary step.  He hasn't been goaded into any of the exopolitical pissing matches.  Kudos.

    He has a wide-ass open playing field here so long as he doesn't try to go the Navy's OMG UFOs! route when we all know damn well the whole kitten kaboodle has been here with us just as long as we have.

    Some of us actually spend time in the halls of history instead of tearing down monuments like monumental imbeciles.

    He could do alot of good and create a solid foundation that can be built on.  Maybe achieve some modicum of respect AR Bordon was adament we lacked for more reasons than anyone should have scribbled on sticky notes stuck to their back side.  

    But I'm a realist.  I watched him roast four years and fail to defend the nation against a coup 'er stolen election just because someone threatened to vaporize DC and sink the West Coast.  Really?  Yeah that word "REALLY?" would have been printed on the ICBM I'd have dropped on World Economic Forum & dingbat nazi Schwab for the threat if true.

    Oh right that would have offended the Greater Community!  My retort to that quarter is we're still making sink holes around the world to eliminate the baby eaters....only whine if you pitch in and help.


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    Post by dan Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:43 am

    As I understand it, Donald is the backup discloser, in case the rest of us can’t get our signals straight.  

    We start with something simple and obvious.  

    Complications are added only as needed.

    The prophetic traditions will be screaming 😱 bloody murder, but they’ve already had a couple of thousand years to get their stories straight.


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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:50 am

    dan wrote:As I understand it, Donald is the backup discloser, in case the rest of us can’t get our signals straight.  

    We start with something simple and obvious.  

    Complications are added only as needed.

    So is that the Navy's pathetic excuse for the "OMG UFOS!"

    This is seriously comical.  

    Tsoukalos (sp?) and his wild history hair doo on History Channel is probably having a field day already.

    Please tell me this situation wasn't the working groups brilliant idea?

    This is disturbingly reminiscent of Trump snubbing the Liberty Community for four years and instead paying lipservice to Red Flag Laws after they worked their asses off to rally everyone to vote him into office.


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    Post by dan Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:55 am

    As I understand it, Hal Puthoff put together the tic-tac videos.  

    The Navy had no choice but to go along with it, after the fact…… run it up a flagpole, and see who salutes.

    There you have the lights in the sky……. everything else is going to be down on the ground…….. jockeying for position.

    To my further understanding, the Princess has the pole position…… being the queen of the hive and all.



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