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We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

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https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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Foresaperire wrote:Revelation 12:10

I heard a loud boom too.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Projection

The one pointing is only pointing at themselves.

You don’t like me

Awwww

Brings me joy when pretenders pretend.

So cute.

Just stick to your CIA script pretender.

You have added nothing of value to the convo.

You should read Elaine, she isn’t as smelly as I am.

I know For thinks he’s the messiah.

Dan wrote: Pahnke had failed to mention that several subjects had struggled with acute anxiety during their experience. One had to be restrained and given an injection of Thorazine, a powerful antipsychotic, after he fled from the chapel and headed down Commonwealth Avenue, convinced he had been chosen to announce the news of

He isn’t

Dan wrote:...primary mystical experience that it can be threatening to existing hierarchical structures.”

Another clue about what For is hiding ^^^^

He’s threatened all right.

What left foot and GSB and For post here are distractions.

Dan is not distracting, nor am I.

They are evil fools. Dan is a fool, but a good honest fool.

Ima a smelly fool.

Dan wrote:...spiritual revival that is our best defense against not only soullessness, but against religious fanaticism. And it does so in the very teeth of the unscientific prejudices built into our current drug laws.”

For acts like a religious fanatic.

He took his trip to cement his faith.

Bad move muppet.

But it’s your loss to be so close minded.

I assure you.

You're the one speaking about me and others. It's habitual for you. As I've mentioned before, I accept and love you for where you're at and who you are. Your projections stem from your abusive mother and the judgements she projected onto you. You've done some deep work, but as with all of us, still have a long way to go as we journey on this path together as we explore and heal the deepest aspects of ourselves and into our connection to the one consciousness.

You doth protest too much, methinks.

I claim nothing, I’m just this smelly goat, and that’s just a mask you are too dense to penetrate.

Know the tree by its fruit.

I’m not one of your little new age fluff bunnies.

I’m not fucking around either.

I have teeth, they are sharp and I bite until I taste 🩸

Gird yourself and learn to wrestle better.

For we do not wrestle against matter alone, but also against principalities and invisible forces.

And they eat new age fluff s like you for lunch.

Keep quoting impersonal nonsense and I’ll keep calling you out...pretender.

Do something worthy of respect and you shall have it.

Until then...

I can smell you spoiled brat, the minute I met you on zoom.

And then you come here and post inautheic nonsense?

True, most of Dan’s friends aren’t too sharp.

Please, learn to read a room.

I think it’s now time for me to post that last zoom session.

I got your number.

Thus endeth the lesson.

Look behind you

Foresaperire wrote:Look behind you

Boo!

I have a goat and Indian hunters behind me imitating deer to get close to their prey.

Are you a hunter or the prey?

I think I know.



And I know the big goat, so watch out!

His name is Tinkerbell.

I’m going to talk to him tonight.

Actually, the other image behind me is a falcon.

I think that’s a message for you.

Funny synchronicity, falcon and falconer.

Note the hood.



Are you my falcon?

Are you ready to hunt?

I’m your Huckleberry.

Since I am here, alive, and blabbin, in other news...

You will all please indulge me a bit further.

I demand it.

Flynn didn’t mean it **wink wink**

It’s pure sedition.

And these patriots who only care about their rights, need to be put down. Like now. Manchin is wrong.

Dead wrong.

There will be no civility.

That’s over.

This is war muppets.

Wake up.

WAR!!!

But the light has not lost yet, nor could it ever.

So you know who is who in this fight.

You know what happens.

A reasonable muppet would say, why fight it?

Relax and go with the flow.

It’s gonna be a brighter day.

The sun will come out tomorrow.

They can’t hear the love in those songs!

It breaks my heart that they have turned away from their own face.

This is not funny to me.

It hurts.

Deep deep pain.

Beyond human ability to carry.

This is not my simulation.

I’m emotionally invested in this world.

I’m part of it and I love it.

All of it.

Even For!

So I have burdened all of you with my burden.

And your burden is my burden.

We are in this together.

You can’t love further than those in your foxhole on your own, but you can when you know the light within thee and let it shine.

We do shine.

That is reason enough to have faith even if every word written and spoken is a lie.

We can shine!

And we should.

That’s my gospel.

Be the best you can be.

Wrestle with life and each other.

Clean your shit up.

Take responsibility.

this.

And dance and sing where you are even if you are the only one.

You never know who might join you.

You know who the darkness is and who is in the light now.

We have been separated like the  and s

But the goats are the good guys in this story.  

But guess what, not one smelly will fight in this last war.

You know why?

Psalm 91

Hacksaw Ridge movie.

That beautiful lunatic in the movie was god.

That was Jesus.

The only Jesus I ever knew would be on the ridge saving both sides.

That means all those religious nationalistic warriors are wrong.

Dead wrong.

They never met Jesus.

But he wants to meet them.

Damn, I shoulda been a preacher.

Momma always told me so.

I broke her heart.

She can’t hear my song.

I wouldn’t have ever lied to them living in my heart.

Well I fuckin met Jesus and he told me they are all wrong.

Hermès.

It’s fast.

It moves like lightening.

Lights your mind and whole body up.

Like electric paddles to your chest.

I was shocked

He told me this church is a monstrous dragon.

A lie.

And he said...you go down there and you love the shit out of all of them.

Love the evil ones most.

That’s how we redeem the kosmos.

That’s what 42 means.

Love, god damn love.

Because god would be the one on hacksaw ridge.

Because we can be beautiful and selfless like that.

That choice to sacrifice is pure gold.

But that takes time to bring forth in our weak minds and bodies.

Generations.

Would it be enough if just one of us touched the sun

Did Jesus touch the

We can redeem the nastiest mess.

What is the way that has only ever worked?

LOVE

The name of the Beatles show in Vegas.  

He said love them like myself.

And I do.

I do.

God asked me if I would die for this world?

And I said a smelly goat can’t redeem anyone.

He said you are so wrong smelly goat.

And I said I would only die for what I love.

And it said...

Then love it all.

Try to match me.

I dare you.

Try to soar higher than I am!

I dare you.

If you do, then you will love all this too.

Then you are really gonna get it.

Smelly El Chivo wrote:

Foresaperire wrote:Look behind you

Boo!

I have a goat and Indian hunters behind me imitating deer to get close to their prey.

Are you a hunter or the prey?

I think I know.

...........

And I know the big goat, so watch out!

His name is Tinkerbell.

I’m going to talk to him tonight.

Actually, the other image behind me is a falcon.

I think that’s a message for you.

Funny synchronicity, falcon and falconer.

Note the hood.

.........

Are you my falcon?

Are you ready to hunt?

I’m your Huckleberry.

I am the goat, the falcon, tinker bell, the hunter, the hunted, the lion and the lamb.  I am that I am. We are all one in the great consciousness.  There is no "you" or "me."

Oh brother.

The ARRIVAL of the ANTI-DAN ;-)

Obama predicts ‘new religions’ could arise if proof of aliens discovered

‘It wouldn’t change my politics at all. Because my entire politics is premised on the fact that we are these tiny organisms on this little speck floating in the middle of space’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/obama-aliens-religion-ufos-b1857845.html

1300z........ I am disappointed with Obama.

He might have known better.  

He didn’t get information Tinkerbell.


2130...........

I finished Michael’s How To Change Your Mind.  It was more helpful than I’d expected.  Particularly helpful was the recent history of psychedelics in this country, as told anecdotally.  

Is it portending the MoAPS?  

Decidedly not, I would have to say.  

The focus is almost entirely on the personal psychology.  

But one can extrapolate.......

One can easily argue that the Sixties were fueled largely by LSD.  

With MAGA movement, the US is still reacting to the Sixties.  

One of the urban legends is that the Sixties was a cia experiment in weaponizing LSD that got out of hand.  

Perhaps there are elements in the agency which are aware of potential cosmic implications.  

If so, would Leary not have been assassinated early on?  

Or was Leary an agent of the deep state?  

Might there not be a synergistic threshold of acid heads that would manifest inter dimensionally for the rest of us?  

So, we have the Internet, psychedelics, and portals all converging, within the next few years.  

What else....... how about the breakdown of scientific materialism?  

Are the PtB running scared?  

Will there also have to be a financial or medical cataclysm?  

Could the MoAPS play any sort of mitigating role?  

Perhaps the strategy is to orchestrate these various vectors of social change so that the total effect can be managed....... managing the magic.  

On some level, everything could be in perfect alignment.



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Dan.

I know you're not my biggest fan and that's okay, I have no hard feelings because I have always thought you were a class act, a gentlemen and the preeminent philosopher of our age despite my antics.

And I've never felt the need to argue with you in any way in reference to your cosmology or worldview and anyone who's paid attention to my time here on OMF can vouch for that.

That said I feel the need to ask.

If you'll indulge me.

Why would you, a man who claims to represent the Deep State, who takes responsibility for the Corona Virus ("My Little Virus") who supported the Trump-Biden transition and has in the past and present advocated for a one world government, specifically the NWO (New World Order) characterized by yourself as "God's Millenial Kingdom" believe that the Powers That Be would be running scared?

I'm sorry but a paranoid conspiracy theorist like myself would see a discrepancy here and would wonder if the aforementioned PtB would be in an advantageous position and be very prepared for an upcoming potentially eschatological change ala the MoAPS or if they would be caught as unaware by sudden Earth changes as the general population?

I do hope you'll answer my question.

Thank you for considering it regardless.

U,

If I fancy myself as representing anything, it would be the deep cosmos.  

After the deep cosmos comes the deep state, which could be thought of as something like an ‘MJ12’.  

foot, by happenstance, is my contact with the conservative side of ‘MJ12’.

A very few of the PtB are even aware of the existence of ‘MJ12’.  We may think of the PtB as the demiurges of the system.

Generally, the President is given a necessarily minimal briefing about the existence the deep state and the deep cosmos.  

The PtB would be the Senators, CEOs, Editors, etc.......

MJ12 serves as a kind of board of directors to the PtB.  

I’m just guessing, here. The arrangements would have to be informal, mainly just working on an intuitive level.  

As we approach the Eschaton, these informal arrangements become even more fluid....... more intuitive...... the various boundaries begin to blur.  

As the portals begin to open, everyone becomes a conscious actor.  

Reality becomes rather more porous, shall we say.  

Historical time becomes rather less controlling...... as deep time or logical time comes to the fore.  

The human footprint on the Earth begins to diminish.  

This is how Omega =>> Alpha.  We are left with tree huggers, as the Megalopolis =>> Megalithic..... and we complete the best possible ouroboric cosmic circuit.  

This is just the basic outline of the best possible (small, personal, inter-dimensional) world.  

Any questions?  

Psychedelics provide us with a passive window onto the inner workings of the cosmos.

We can think of Donald Trump as the wake up call for the PtB.  

Donald Trump would have been a creature of MJ12........ the epitome of a Demiurge.  

The Princess , queen bee , is another form of demiurge..... practically a force of nature, in her own right.  

Everyone of the PtB may be thought of as demiurges..... thinking of themselves as self made persons, where everyone of them is just a puppet of the..... cosmic mind, shall we say.  

Were Buddha and Jesus just puppets?  

Sure, in one sense.  

But, on the other hand, they were also incarnations....... in the strong sense.



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U wrote:Dan.

I know you're not my biggest fan and that's okay, I have no hard feelings because I have always thought you were a class act, a gentlemen and the preeminent philosopher of our age despite my antics.

And I've never felt the need to argue with you in any way in reference to your cosmology or worldview and anyone who's paid attention to my time here on OMF can vouch for that.

That said I feel the need to ask.

If you'll indulge me.

Why would you, a man who claims to represent the Deep State, who takes responsibility for the Corona Virus ("My Little Virus") who supported the Trump-Biden transition and has in the past and present advocated for a one world government, specifically the NWO (New World Order) characterized by yourself as "God's Millenial Kingdom" believe that the Powers That Be would be running scared?

I'm sorry but a paranoid conspiracy theorist like myself would see a discrepancy here and would wonder if the aforementioned PtB would be in an advantageous position and be very prepared for an upcoming potentially eschatological change ala the MoAPS or if they would be caught as unaware by sudden Earth changes as the general population?

I do hope you'll answer my question.

Thank you for considering it regardless.

u doesn’t listen very well.

Try pronoia.

And Dan isn’t that good of a philosopher.

Educate thyself instead of all those YouTubes you watch, read some books.

This is all manufactured stuff.

Think for yourself.

There is no such thing as eschatology.

Only Dan would read a book about psychedelics and think, I got it!

You have to do psycadelics!

No mystic ever had one thing for another.

It’s personal.

Of course the ptb are scared.

Money is bullshitz.

They would keep all the benefit for themselves.

Assholes.

Not any more.

Not any more.

We leap frogged their evil asses.

And they have no idea what we are onto.

This is a participatory universe.

Participate!

HA

Just a smelly service announcement.

Dan doesn’t want to become like me, a free goat is no ones friend.

Look at how the ones on OMF can’t open up.

They wouldn’t listen to Jesus either.

They wrote a book of lies and made a fake religion in response.

All the proof you need how stupid and ignorant muppets are.

Especially the Bible quoting shamans.

A smelly goat went up against the top of the conspiracy heap and he did this.

No such thing as eschatology.........?

That might be true in big materialist world.  

But not in a small immaterial world.  

Chivo is convinced that we live in a big world, and so are all our modern minded friends.  

They might be in for a little surprise......... chick .  

Chivo is going with the herd.



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MJ12 = Zodiac?

99 wrote:MJ12 = Zodiac?

…I thought they were ‘birds’, but I’m easily confused.

Smelly, you told me to burn all my books.

jofo wrote:

99 wrote:MJ12 = Zodiac?

…I thought they were ‘birds’, but I’m easily confused.

That's if you believe the Aviary and MJ12 are synonymous. I'm not so sure, Grant Cameron's early work for example names a few alleged members of MJ12 and they're certainly more high profile then at least the named Aviary characters. That said there's enough bird names to go around. At this rate I may even have one .

I think 99 makes an interesting comparison, that the 12 members of MJ12 correspond with the 12 signs of the zodiac, symbolically that's very powerful. However, I'm under the impression that MJ12 has expanded far beyond 12 members in the modern era, at least double that number imo.

If you had any brains 🧠 you could study everything Heraclitus, Leibniz, Nietzsche and Hegel ever wrote U.

You have to find the right books, before you burn em all.

And you have some reading to do bird brain.

Dan wouldn’t know a big world from a small one.

We are contradictions.

Dan doesn’t see the big and small.

He’s stuck.

And his poor brain is on the ropes.

All this just does not compute for him really.

If you noticed a over the last few years, he has been desperate.

Beautiful to watch him run around really.

Contradictions are part of my game, my art.

Because we are walking layers of contradictions balanced on the head of a pin.

Say black and white.

Point up and down.

Confused and dizzy yet?

I sure am!

Dizziness is how you make your way through the maze.

The true believer loses.

You have been pretty dense to date, so I hold no hope of being heard by the loons here on omf.

I like speaking to people who don’t listen.

Leibniz cult followers like Godel and Dan just can’t give up the ghost.

They are trapped in a box.

Where they should be building bridges.

Dan is building a bridge to nowhere.

Left foot is giving him the steel to build it.

But he’s Jesus, right, so I must be wrong of course.

Can you see the trap of Disclosure yet?

They would go crazy if they lost their hold on Leibniz and Dan has gone crazy several times.

Poor chicken would lose the few marbles he has left if he moved on from eschatology and Leibniz.

Well, smelly goat is a helluva lot smarter than Dan.

That’s mercy for ya.

I found out early Dan had nothing for me.

He was just a clanging gong.

He has one speed.

No, I had to go deeper, Dan was no match.

I had to go talk to Tinkerbell, the Great goat.

Hey, we are now in a state of civil war, so I should be direct now.

That’s why the devil sent a smelly to Dan.

To show him he may not have a full deck to play with, haha.

Even Noam Chomsky is confused but intrigued by Nietzsche.

Mr. Nietzsche did something totally real, he spoke his truth.

That’s the key, not THE truth, his truth.

As have I.

What do you or holy roller For have to say original?

How does it feel to be you?

Thus spake Zarathustra.

He tore the elites a new one and they will never recover.

He dealt them a mortal blow.

Brains seem to be in short supply in the country atm.

Yuh have left feet and bible quoting muppets jumping about with their schemes and ridiculous plans.

Raise yourself up for your own sake.

Live selfishly and deliciously.

But you know what, you yourself preach nihilism and thus are my enemy.

Never mind, you wouldn’t understand Nietschze.

Yuh are already lost and you can’t seem to get back it seems.

You dream of reptiles.

That’s the past muppet.

They learned to fly.

I wish you good luck in restoring your obviously lost mind.

Your opposition is your truest friend.

Embrace them.

Anon wrote:Nietzsche and Leibniz/Hegel had more in common than most people think. Nietzsche accepted Boscovich’s scheme and thus rejected conventional scientific materialistic atomism. In Boscovich’s scheme, point-particles - tiny centres of force and power - engaged in what might be considered a great power struggle with all other monadic particles. Thus Nietzsche found potential “scientific” carriers for his Will to Power. Many commentators do regard Nietzsche’s Will to Power as metaphysical (Heidegger as an example), he himself regarded it as scientific, albeit not in an obvious materialistic sense. Like Boscovich, Nietzsche was kind of an immaterial physicalist (Ontologistics and others consider Nietzsche’s system as panexperientialism, like that of A.N. Whitehead’s metaphysics). “Physical” reality involves nothing but minds exerting forces on each other as a function of “physical” distance between them. If such a system is finite then it can be conceived that, over immense periods of time, the system will find itself in the same configurations that it manifested before (eternal recurrence will occur). Given that Nietzsche ascribed Will - a mental quality - to point atoms, his system could be considered in Leibnizian terms. Wolfgang Müller-Lauter wrote, “Nietzsche’s ‘points of will’ remind one of Leibniz’s immaterial ‘points metaphysiques.’ Even his remarks on ‘perspectivism, by which every centre of force - and not only man - construes all the rest of the world from its own viewpoint’, call to mind Leibnizian monadology.”

Nietzsche’s will-points don’t endure forever though and aren’t fixed.
As Wolfgang wrote again, “To the question of what is it that brings and holds together the incessantly changing organisations of will to power in itself, and also allows them to flow apart, the final answer is: it is contradictions that make possible all aggregation as well as disintegration; indeed, such contradictions are both immanent in every organisation and they confront it ‘from outside,’ from other organisations. The will to power requires contradictions, which of course also can themselves be only will to power. ... By such dependence on contradiction, the will to power is, as Nietzsche says, originally ‘not a being, not a becoming, but a pathos,’ out of which ‘a becoming and effect ing first emerge.’

Nietzsche’s emphasis on contradiction and becoming is highly Heraclitean and Hegelian (although he preferred only to refer to Heraclitus and Hegel said Heraclitus was virtually right about everything). Nietzsche’s Will to Power can be considered a bridge between Leibniz’s mental monads and Boscovich’s physical monads.

I’m sure you have no idea what I mean lost in your MJ12 and all things UFO obsession.

Wasting your mind there bird brain.

You are literally rotting it out.

Just my smelly opinion.

But what do I know.

Nada mucho.

But a helluva lot more than you

The devil loves Nietzsche.

Tinkerbell is not a nihilist.

We read him together around the

You could just checkout like jofo.

I am clanging gong too.

I have nothing to offer anyone else either.

But I have variable speeds.

What Dan and I found was for ourselves.

He just has a bigger heart than smelly goat I guess.

But seeing as Dan is a pariah of the white Anglo elite, they don’t like it when you question their gods, it is fitting a half breed mystic bastard like myself ate his lunch.

You could say this is divine comedy and of the highest art.

I don’t know what gives with the rest of ya.

What dumb muppet is next?!

Let me at em.

I won’t harm hobbit, I love that conspiracy addled dowsing Brit.

Oh, alight, I love you all too.

And I even love Dan and For and their shared left foot.

You know what, the devil is not a liar, the big goat is the most honest voice in the kosmos.

But trump is a naked liar and so is anyone with him.

The Antichrist was not sent by the devil.

That’s a frame job.

No, Trump is of chaos, he would burn it all if he could.

He is darkness.

He’s a dupe.

Trump’s self loathing is that great.

It would be an insult to call trump the son of the devil.

I am trying for that myself.

How am I doin ole scratch?

He says, just grand, smell it all up.

The devil is a being of resplendent light who hides behind the horns and flaming eye balls that fly around his throne.

The horns are to capture and block the vulgar.

We painted the false images of god and the devil in our image.

We have given those images power.

And those images will destroy us if we aren’t careful.

The daimon helps us see.

This is called the conversation with your Holy Guardian Angel.

The good guys in this story are lost and the bad ones save the day.

Thankfully, Tinkerbell and Sophia won’t let it all come crashing down.

After you burn the books, burn all your words.

I printed out everything I ever wrote and I’m going to burn it all up.

I’d like my entire record of garzparz and smelly deleted from OMF Cy.

I’d like you to ban me too Cy.

Then my painting will be done.

Don’t let your kids do psychedelics now mommies and daddies.

They may end as smelly goats and then they are really gonna git it.

I kid of course, about all of it.

—El Chivo

1320z........

I apologize for Chivo.......

He was force fed on fundamentalism, and didn’t manage to break free until his late twenties.  

I’m sure that would also have turned me toward obscurantism/nihilism.  

Those who easily succumb to ideology...... their only defense is to abjure all ideas.  

Chivo is unable see beyond his own limitations and suffering.  

Yes, I do entertain immaterialism.  I find this ontology to be grossly underrepresented in the modern world.  I do my part to uphold that tradition.  

At the same time, I find scientific materialism to be highly persuasive, and completely understand its grip on the modern psyche.  

I just choose the other path.  


99,

The number 12 is certainly of celestial origin, while the number 10 pertains mainly to the mundane.  

And, yes, mj12 may have zodiacal connotations, relating to the aeons and archons....... but that would be above my pay grade.  

I mainly just stick with the ufo lore.  There have been various lists, and I find most of them to be credible.  


It’s hard for me to say if the June 25th uap report will have any lasting impact on the global psyche.  

There will be a glaring omission.........

Even the very casual observer to the ufo 🛸 scene will have noted that there is a dimension of high strangeness associated with many ufo type encounters.  

I gather the words ‘strange’ and ‘weird’ will be studiously avoided in the upcoming report.  

Will this omission be newsworthy?  

Will the contemporaneous cia involvement with psychedelics be noted?

It appears unlikely.  

Yet, glaring omissions do have a way of seeping into the psyche, nonetheless.  

The eventual collision of the internal and external manifestation of this inter dimensional phenomenon will not be deterred, and will likely be hastened, by however the bureaucrats choose to present it.  

The primary embarrassment will fall to the intelligentsia, and their centuries of neglect of the paranormal and anomalous.  

How is scientific materialism like a virgin?  One prick and it’s all gone.  

Will June 25 constitute a prick?  Perhaps ........ 🦶 .....

Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology
Don't know much about a science book
Don't know much about the French I took

1500.......

Whatever transpires on the surface, the human imagination is liable to be nudged a notch.  

Pandora’s box will be wedged by a crack.  

Who knows what fury might be loosed?

Will the Eschaton be spied?  

What neglected scrying stone will be uncovered?  

Will an official admission of ignorance quell the global curiosity?  

Will it be abett or abate?  

Doesn’t the world already have enough on its plate?  

Or will the mundane problems begin to fade?  

Something this way comes.

Or....... what does the starry messenger have to tell us?  

With all these distant encounters, has there not been a close one.  

Who has been briefing the President, pray tell?  

If the message is in the medium, where is the medium?  

Where is the Trickster in all of this?  

If you can’t track the phenomenon.........

Do we have a phenomenology problem........ or what?  

Yes, Virginia.......

Yes, do let us ponder the imponderable....... That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,  
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,  
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?





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