You just took the words right out of my mouth.........
Yes, our only practical option is to head inside.......
The only problem is that it’s probably not a good idea to try blast our way in, as we are wont to do with respect to outer space.
So, maybe hobbit knows the ‘open sesame’.......
We do have a written record of Admiral Byrd witnessing an open portal during his flight to the South Pole. foot 🦶, of course, has access to those records........ and, who knows, whether to the portal, itself?
If portals there be, there would be a great proclivity to attempt to exploit them as providing one advantage or another over those of us lacking access.
I give some credence to the assertion that portal access can be blocked from the other side.
Whoever might be over there is likely to also make use of existing institutions on this side, for limiting access.
Rumor has it that the US has some sort of preferred nation status.
There would need to be an existing intelligence infrastructure to help provide camouflage. Atomic secrecy would have provided a logical rationale.
Why not just throw the doors open?
At the very least, you might have some sort of PA system to announce some sort of exodus plan.
Such a PA system is already in place, especially via the various prophetic traditions.
Certainly, the ufo phenomenon does keep large numbers of us on the lookout for some off planet excursions opportunities.
Hollywood is hardly oblivious to our proclivities in that regard.
More often than not, Hollywood is likely to exploit our fears of the paranormal...... horror can do wonders at the box office...... the Friday night frights...... gets your girlfriend to hold on tight.
If there is an exodus plan on our side, it would have started out as a closely held secret. Evidently, there has been no occasion to amend that policy.
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Instead of accepting the assumption based theory of gravity which newton invented think of layerings of opposite charged fields that have a double vortex shape around the poles, and they spiral in and out of the poles reversing at the heart centre location.
You the reader are sort of hollow with a thin casing about yourself, and to a hobbits senses you are created upon a cross of polarity and equator with opposite spin zones of the Northern and Southern hemisphere.
Strangely this led to steel ships having to be treated when they crossed the equator regions as it sent their compasses haywire, and this happened in the Philadelphia ship yards where very high voltage cables were wrapped around submarines to reset the magnetic signature of the steel, strange things happened to a certain submarine.
I consider this planet to be a living entity, with a shell like sort of skin with alternate directions of the so called gravity enabling perhaps many hobbits to be upside down relative to Your perspective of up and down.
And I have never been pessimistic about anything but our ignorance.
It can end.
We can wise up.
You just don’t get the ole fat smelly goat Dan.
You spend your time with assassins and I spend my time with the pack and the flowers and my love.
Let people decide then who speaks from the heart here.
My heart always wants the best.
We dive into nothing grounded here. And until you spent some tome with Lilly don’t pretend to speak for him.
Persons have to reveal themselves to other persons.
He was isolated much of his life to his regret.
And at the end of all his crazy work.
He said, you don’t get lost in the infinities.
Just come home and enjoy it.
Nothing you think you know about a person is true.
Friendship and trust must be forged.
That’s pretty interpersonal.
Why did I have to meet such a confused
How many true friends do you have dan you trust?
Not many, same for me, but what if the world lived in that trust?
Oh boy, that would be something.
I always offer my hand in friendship.
And I have forged true friendships.
Not so isolated after all now
“Friendship is unnecessary,” C.S. Lewis wrote, “like philosophy, like art, like the universe itself… it has no survival value; rather it is one of those things which give value to survival.”
Don’t you know what is valuable in life Dan?
No, you never speak personally about what you value.
That’s what moves people.
Being vulnerable and honest and strong and weak.
That is maybe the biggest part of living your best life.
To be truly be seen and known as much as one can be is nirvana.
Not blissed out empty solo cosmic orgasm.
Do you hear me.
I’m not a nihilist or a fucking Buddhist.
I killed them all, all the imposters and deceivers and liars.
I’m a god damn human being!
Talk about life here on the ground grand pa
Stop dreaming about the sky or don’t.
If u don’t, you missed life.
Sorry, I set you up to say this.
Listen to Seneca on friendship.
“If you consider any man a friend whom you do not trust as you trust yourself, you are mightily mistaken and you do not sufficiently understand what true friendship means… When friendship is settled, you must trust; before friendship is formed, you must pass judgment. Those persons indeed put last first and confound their duties, who … judge a man after they have made him their friend, instead of making him their friend after they have judged him. Ponder for a long time whether you shall admit a given person to your friendship; but when you have decided to admit him, welcome him with all your heart and soul. Speak as boldly with him as with yourself… Regard him as loyal and you will make him loyal.”
I’m guessing that my dad was one, but take away religion.
Note that both Steve and Dan Sr come out of HBS.
If my dad had a hero, it might well be Churchill.
He was certainly not a materialist. Neither is Steve.
His would have been the great man theory of history, which, admittedly has some overlap with personalism.
The Traditionalist vision of a perennial wisdom is not based on mystical experiences, but on metaphysical intuitions. It is "intuited directly through divine intellect." This divine intellect is different from reason, and makes it possible to discern "the sacred unity of reality that is attested in all authentic esoteric expressions of tradition"; it is "the presence of divinity within each human waiting to be uncovered."
Here there is a lot overlap, obviously.
Portals...... channels to the divine..... would play a role..... secret societies, etc.......
There is certainly an element of gnosticism.
This is what you would be stuck with, prior to Revelation.
There would be a strong adventist element...... anticipation..... amongst the true believers.
Dan Sr was mainly a pessimist, however...... how to slow down the inevitable deterioration. My dad would not be standing out on the hill, in anticipation, like my Montana sister.
Here is Schuon......
The key to the eternal sophia is pure intellection or in other words metaphysical discernment. To "discern" is to "separate": to separate the Real and the illusory, the Absolute and the contingent, the Necessary and the possible, Atma and Maya. Accompanying discernment, by way of complement and operatively, is concentration, which unites: this means becoming fully aware — from the starting point of earthly and human Maya — of Atma, which is both absolute and infinite.
With the understanding that Atma/Brahman/Buddha nature is at the core of every personal being.
This core is often, initially apprehended as an abyss, in the dark night of the soul.
What hill is Steve standing on? What MoAPS does he anticipate?
I suspect that an increasing number of folks realize that we’re not going back to business as usual.
Now isn’t this ironic, “Leibniz gave the name of the Perennial Philosophy to this theme.”
I read Guenon and others.
It just started to taste bad.
And I dug in more and saw what cults of personality grew around it’s leaders.
It’s a fog of ancient symbols.
Mysticism is fear based ultimately I feel.
The fog clears if yuh don’t get swept away in the rapids of thought.
Drugs seemed to convince Huxley this was the truth.
I think it very unwise to draw certainties from drug induced experiences.
I was so overwhelmed by the drug experience it seemed maybe the perennial philosophy mirrored my drug experience deep symbols.
The drugs are not to learn the meaning of being, they assist with healing, can provide perspective.
But fools go looking for god or ultimate reality.
What I found was balance and responsibility for my actions.
No divine truths.
I became incredibly creative.
It is these incensed seekers causing so much confusion.
Mommy and Daddy issues.
Let go what you want I told myself.
I told myself I am enough.
Accept your life as it is and do your best to live with self integrity and compassion.
That was for me, spoken by me, to me.
Huxley and others thought mystical religion was the answer to confused religions.
Transcendence of personality and worldly affairs.
Transcend what and go where?
What, now you speak for god?
We have an inner self reflective mirror that creates the personality as maybe a side effect.
That image can be transcended when one realizes there is an inner life, not just a relative sense life.
Yuh see ego is just an approximation of you, partly created by our time and culture.
To say ego is to abstract yourself with a symbol.
So what really is the personal and impersonal.
Just more clumsy symbols.
You aren’t a binary person or nothing.
You are this swirling awareness.
What words or symbols define you? DNA?
That’s just a map.
You show up and live the life in the body.
I used my active imagination is all to deconstruct life.
There can be an inner exploration that does not negate the person.
This is what I have tried, badly, to discuss with Dan.
There are no clear lines.
The pragmatists and stoics helped me most to ground myself in my life.
I’m not preaching transcendence, I simply suggest our inner experience is maybe the source of our actions and hide deep wounds that appear as monsters until you make peace with them. Value is forged through self reflection.
Can one not speak of their inner world and not be called impersonal?
We don’t really understand what we are seeing in there.
It should be studied holistically.
The old texts can’t be taken literally and we have to engage this in our time, in our own mind.
There are so many opinions and voices out there.
One must find their own voice.
I do not make claims as to what will happen.
I seek the real.
I seek to understand my thinking and my thinking about thinking.
I engage nature in being.
I don’t have neat definitions for these experiences.
Doing the best I can Captain.
I will not take the bit or be boxed in.
I am a slippery smelly goat.
You cannot draw ultimate conclusions from intuition or thoughts or feelings.
I have no specific sources concerning the generally alleged coverup conspiracy. Intimations of various sorts of conspiracies are endemic to the literature.
The prototypical conspiracy allegations point back to Eisenhower’s alleged meeting with an alien......
There was some agreement to the effect that we would not interfere with them, if they would go about their business discretely. In return, they would give us some access to their ‘technology’.
The subsequent extent of the abduction phenomenon was considered to be in breach of that agreement.
It is not generally specified as to what, if any, recourse we might have had.
I believe that there has been a coverup...... one that has been mutually agreed upon.
However, the alien presence is only ancillary to the coverup.
Mainly what is being withheld is the impending MoAPS.
The MoAPS is of such a radical nature, that it is self-concealing.
Back to traditionalism......
There is only a minimal overlap with personalism......
Divine truth is not alien to our personal intuition, but we would be very unlikely to stumble upon it, were it not revealed within each of the several traditional cultures.
In this context, modern culture is just an aberration...... brought on, perhaps, by personal greed.
chick begs to differ..... there are no aberrations in the best possible world. Every last bit has been orchestrated..... especially including the science bit.
The various traditions make no sense when removed from their historical context..... from the eschatological Metanarrative.
The individual traditions make sense only holistically..... a holism that is reflected in the microcosmic mirror of every person.
However, there must be an interpersonal collaboration to allow our metaphysical intuitions to shine through. The discernment of truth is a collaborative, historical, not an institutional, effort.
Institutions cannot keep up with the times, especially in the Endtimes.
This is exactly where social mediation is essential.
As material culture commences its death spiral, eg. Wuhan, the window for Disclosure is narrow...... the continued functioning of the global internet is essential.
It’s not the body count of the virus 🦠 that is critical, rather it is the psychological impact...... it is our belated awakening from our slumber of materialism...... our awakening to our material vulnerability, and its impetus to look deeper...... and the timing is critical..... the sense that we exist on borrowed time.
The gnosis that is embedded in the prophetic tradition segues smoothly into our scientific gnosis.
The limited nature of the scientific gnosis then leads us back to a rediscovery of our primordial transcendental gnosis. Wuhan is delivering us to that doorstep.
If the above scenario is in the right ballpark, the portals should simultaneously be emerging from their modern obscurity. The porosity of the ‘objective’ world will be manifesting.
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