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Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:14 am

I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop 🛑 the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......


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Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:38 am

There may be a flaw in the the logic of the present BPWH.......

The claim has been that the BPW is personal.  

If personal, it should also be subjective, but I have been treating the BPW as if it were an object.  

In other words, God would have no choice about creating the best possible world 🌎.  

And, once created/reified, it can’t be modified.

God has, indeed, created an immovable object.

What do we think about them apples 🍎?


1000Z........

According to the BPWH, the only thing that can exist is persons.  

This is just the definition of Personalism...... it is an ontological premise........ as is also Atomism, for instance.  

There must also be a (personal) Source, rather than a Big Bang, for instance.  

Keep in mind, please, that we’re not talking about any sort of conventional time frame........ we are in the (onto-)logical frame..... of what must exist..... besides Nothing, of course.  

And, if something must exist, it would have to be the best possible something, naturally.  

We have simply appealed to a least, or optimal, action principle....... just by considering a ‘constructive’ interference between personal intentions.  

The Source must be personal...... as singular subject.  

All subsequent subjects are thus internal to the mind of the Source.  

We all exist in the mind of God/Source, which is just another statement of idealism/immaterialism.

Then what if God has a brain fart...... what if God sneezes 🤧?

Does the whole world have to catch cold 🥶?  

That was the whole point of the BPWH...... God is not allowed to sneeze 🤧 or change her mind.  

To prevent God from sneezing 🤧, we all have to be frozen in place...... given the premise of personalism.  

I guess you could say that the BPW is Frozen III/3.  

The Princess 👸 demanded that I see Frozen II, and discuss it with 3.5.


1100Z.......

Before zooming 🏎 , I think the Princess would like chick 🐥 to unfreeze the Kingdom.  

That might be easier said than done ✅.  

Maybe that’s why the jguy had to be staked...... he was frozen in time.  

How can we unstake the poor guy.

He’s been left twisting in the cosmic breezes.  

How can he go with the flow?  

Atomists have this same problem, that’s why they had to invent the infinite Multiverse.  

And why Leibniz had to invent an infinity ♾ of monads.

Looking at this problem another way.......

Quantum randomness does not equal free will.

An entangled world is a frozen world.



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Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:57 am

The best possible world is all about quantum entanglement....... ok

But then portals must be about disentanglement.  

Interpersonal portals are about interpersonal disentanglement.  

That seems to be an oxymoron 🐂.

They interpersonal portals are about a Folie a Deux...... literally a shared psychosis.  

Psychosis is about becoming disentangled.  

Dreaming is about becoming disentangled.  

Altered states of consciousness are about disentanglement.  

The virus 🦠 is about interpersonal disentanglement.  

So, yes, the virus 🦠 is an interpersonal portal 🕳, or, at least, an actuator, thereof.  

A coven is an actuator.  

Religions are about entanglement, of course...... well, maybe more like twelve step programs...... which every organization/corporation is.  

Original participation is about tribal entanglement/disentanglement.

Every ‘organic’ group of persons must have a core, which is, at least, a ‘virtual’ portal 🕳.  

This simplest portal 🕳 is simply a quantum aperture...... or, possibly, all portals 🕳 are quantum apertures.  

Obviously, we have apertures v entanglement.  

A coven is an entangled aperture.  

An aperture is quantum disentanglement.  

That’s how a brain 🧠 gives rise to consciousness 💭.  

Perhaps..... in other words...... a quantum aperture is a hyper entanglement.

This could be what brainwaves are..... a hyper entanglement.



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Post by hobbit Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:06 am



Spiders are masters of entanglement, they operate upon a web, so do We.

Polygons abound, and dimensions are within the web, when You dream, you trip off the 3D entangled web onto the 5D web, your 3D vehicle remains on charge, it is your eternal 5d that trips.

Some strange ones can do this whilst the 3D vehicle is still in gear , as such.

It is about intent, and by utilising the dial built into Yourself so long locked onto the 3D entanglement, just tune in with intent, most have forgotten how to do this, time to remember, You can't see 5D with Your 3D vehicles senses, but You can with practise locate at a portal doorway, the key is as every key is, the key is Your field that must match the lock.

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Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:20 am

Interpersonal portals are about using words....... the Logos.  

That’s why smelly is so opposed to the Logos..... it’s liable to open an interpersonal portal.  

A portal is an entanglement that gets so hyper that it collapses under it’s own weight, like a black hole 🕳.  

A portal is a disentanglement, which can also be seen an entanglement of entanglements.  

The preestablished harmony is multi-layered.  

You have to break through one layer to get to the next.  

Historically, science 🧬 🌌 is our final entanglement....... our last barrier to the Eschaton.  That’s why we cling to science so desperately.  

Science is our life preserver 🧿 to save us from the Eschaton/abyss.  

Isn’t that right, smelly...... or do I already have your goat 🐐?


1450Z..........

To get back to the Source, all we have to do is go along with the pre established harmony.  Everyone gets there, eventually.  

Interpersonal activities can expedite or delay that return.  

Altered states of consciousness can expedite or delay the return.  

Technology can expedite or delay.......

Princess 👸 & foot 🦶 are my last barrier to the portal 🕳...... they can expedite or delay.  

Chick 🐥 is supposed to represent the global actuator.  

smelly 🐐 has been expediting and delaying.  

The virus 🦠 can expedite or delay.  


But let’s get back to the problem of the best possible world 🌎 as being an immovable object.......

But the world 🌎 is just our Folie à Deux(^14).....  so it just looks objective.  

Our global 🌎 zoom 🏎 meeting (Disclosure) will initiate the Rapture.  

No?

The doubling time will be on the order of 96 hours (4 days) I would guess.  

We should be able to save the world within 4x14 days, or two months, maximum.  

That’s the time to bring about the MoAPS.  


1540Z.........

Is it time to put the pedal to metal?  


1600Z..........

Scott and I will be getting back on the line in a few minutes.......

If anyone cares to join, just call in.

If you don’t call us...... we’ll be calling you.....!!



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Post by Cuan Scott Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:13 am

Dan,

Nice post..

I am just topping up a cup of tea and will give you a call.

Hobbit,

Are you going to join the party?

We could do with someone from the Shire Smile
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Post by Cuan Scott Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:19 am

Dan and I are talking and we are thinking that as the 40 min time limit may prove an obstacle, we should open an OM zoom account subscription where we can all collectively pay a few dollars for a single account and we can get Dan to host it.

Thoughts folks?


Smelly / Ack,

we need the techie view on this? Smile

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Post by smelly da goat Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:57 pm

I'm already paying for an unlimited zoom account, you guys can use that. Happy to donate usage. I'll send Dan dialin info.
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Post by whoknows Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:26 pm

LOL I don’t know the secret hand shake and don’t want to.

I thought a little zoom would be kinda fun. I no longer see that even a conversation could take place.

Just another muppets platform.

Mesolithic

Neolithic

Bronze Age

Axial age/Iron Age

Computer age

Between each delineation there has been a shorter period.

I agree with the goat on this one... It’s going to be a ruff ride for some.

Try not to hold to tight.   It might help.
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Post by whoknows Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:15 pm

This age has become obsolete.

In the end the change has to come from within.
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Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:33 pm

Scott and I have been on zoom 🏎 for several hours, with several others joining us.  

Scott will be signing off in a few minutes.  

Chick 🐥 will be standing by.........


0000Zero meridian (Zulu)........

Chick 🐥 has been standing by, for 76 years......

My phone 📱 is 443799 seventwoohone for voice or text.

Somebody be brave and call me so we can start a zoom session, and we’ll post the meeting link, here.........


0100Z........

Bryan and I are meeting here.......

Click https://us04web.zoom.us/j/4176099117 to join a Zoom meeting


0200Z.........

That meeting is over........ and the night is still young.  

wk,

Yes, so let’s start a new one.......

Just text me at the above number.......



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Post by whoknows Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:17 pm

Dan you’ve seen smelly’s post as we all have. I’d be willing to bet that if you set a time he’d set up a link.

Just sayin. ✌
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Post by whoknows Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:52 pm

Well, you guys must have given up cuz I found it but says it’s waiting for the host.

Even found da smelly goat spot but don’t have a password.
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Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:07 pm

I’ll start a new meeting just for you, wk.  

Just give me the word.

We get 40 minutes for free.
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Post by whoknows Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:09 pm

Go for it, send me a link. I’ll stand by.

Where you at man?

You in smelly’s room or yours?

Oh well, I’ve been checking both rooms and nothing is happening and I have other things I can’t be doing. no one at home it seems.

All I get is waiting for host.

Thing is Dan I’m not into giving anyone my number. So I will not be calling or texting you if that is the hold up. Ah well.
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Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:40 pm

wk,

Just text me please........ 443799 seventwoohone.

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Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:51 pm

I see......

When I have a paid up account, I’ll be able to keep a meeting running 24/7. Using smelly’s account, I can only be on for 40 minutes, at a time.
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Post by dan Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:18 pm

1818Z............

We’re not quite at the point of zoom salvation (ZS).

I struggle just to keep a few of us on board with BPWH/MoAPS....... and we are, by no means, a random sample that could generally be replicated.  

There is still missing a secret sauce........ that would allow us to go public.  

It is possible that 2&3 possess the sauce...... or could be granted access to it.  

Generally speaking, covid19 is thinning out our cosmic shell...... portals become more easily accessible....... our mundane reality becomes more porous and fluid...... less compartmentalized.

Will we have to wait for the leaner and meaner virus that we have been promised?



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Post by smelly da goat Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:23 pm

The secret sauce is only found within.

You can only offer your own quality or shit to the the world.

You either have that swing or you don't.

You can't pretend or replicate it.

There is no other with anything for you.

Find it on your own or you can just be a happy little tree or flower, that's enough for me.

The true teacher will tell any that, the liars will try to take your attention.

This is all Disclosure ever was or will be about.

You will do not do the work or you won't.

It isn't about 1,2, 3 or many.

It isn't about One.

It's just this Wink
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Post by dan Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:45 pm

1945Z......

Chivo,

I don’t believe that you could not be aware of network effects.... domino effects, and the like.  

You are reluctant to accept that we are social creatures...... that we are influenced by such things as paradigms.  

Yes, Chivo, when conditions change, we do experience social phase transitions.  

We are not islands, but, in as much as we are independent, we are certainly an archipelago.  

Language is all about social psychology.  It beggars the imagination that a frequent blogger, such as my esteemed colleague, could be so naive concerning the social dimension of the self.  

However, chick 🐥 would be naive to suppose that the Chivo 🐐 phenomenon is unique.  

Many are those who have been alienated by the mindlessness..... of the literalness..... of fundamentalism.  Their only recourse has been to turn inward.  

I don’t how else to refer to these folks, other than as mystics.

They tend to see a stark contrast between their old way and new way, as between black and white.

Of course it’s largely my fault for pushing the buttons on the prophetic tradition.



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Post by smelly da goat Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:09 pm

I'm not naive, you are distracted by appearances.

You are unbalanced and easy to push over.

That's cool.

The social stuff happens naturally.

Do the work and realize or don't, shrug.

The work is to clear your eyes, open your heart and mind and polish yourself to a fine sheen.

If you do, you will nod and grin at what I say.

You will do the best thing socially also from this awareness.

You also realize you will always be ok in any situation.

You should and can do nothing else until you get your house in order.
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Post by whoknows Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:17 pm

Dan wrote: We’re not quite at the point of zoom salvation (ZS).

I am happy to say that I no long seek salvation form BPWH MoAPS, I simply embrace them as part of the flow. not the end all and be all. Rather the eternal and infinite. No? no secrets just awareness.

I’ll be the first to admit there is much I am yet to be aware of.

To barrow from a small bit of the Jefferson Airplane album “After Bathing At Baxter’s.” “No man is an island he’s a peninsula.”

Is it not really impossible to be totally hermetic?

Dan wrote: Of course it’s largely my fault for pushing the buttons on the prophetic tradition.

Dan, it’s not only Ok to be wrong it’s healthy.

Chivo wrote: You should and can do nothing else until you get your house in order.

This is another one of those things I think must be by virtue of what I see as our nature, eternal.
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Post by smelly da goat Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:31 pm

I have trained myself and practiced to be mostly right, at least 80% of the time, ha.

Good enough to live it seems.

But we all get things wrong, but the wrong can be right, so nothing is wrong or right, right, ha.

Nice not to have to be dualistic anymore, that is the greatest.

The experience is not night and day, it is just this Dan.

wk, I know nothing of spirit, soul, eternity, god, the hive, UFOs, disclosure princesses, shangri la, corona, what have you.

They have absolutely nothing to do with me really and are not worth the time, but to watch out for hazards from said concepts.

Dan is worth the time though, as is anyone I meet if they aren't too stupid or mean.

See what I did there Wink

I can handle a mean smart muppet or a dumb loving muppet, but not a stupid mean one, which leave us alone here, cause they know better.

Dan has only convinced me I have chosen my way wisely, which was really not to choose a way.

Is it a cop out?

It is the only sane option providing the least resistance to life.

Our connections really are what means anything to us.

Nietzsche was not a nihilist, he was warning us of the great depression that will come and he wisely said prepare thyself and practice accepting and expressing.

Love thy life.

If you know it, you love it.

We truly should treasure our connections.

Dan is wrong, I am not a disconnected island, I am partly connected to all around me.

In fact, I built a helicopter so I could go visit all the other islands.

All connected under the water.

I know that, can't prove it, but that means I can't touch faith.

I know I don't know.

In this way, we come back around to the beginning.

People who know the princess say there is something weird about her, she doesn't laugh.

There is respect and fear in their voices.

They don't talk that way about Ron.

As I know I am all of it, I don't care if I ever speak or see those two.

But you never know what might happen, so I'm open to whatever really.

I like to play and tease and wrestle, deal with it or don't if a muppet is too dumb to love quality.

I know shit when I smell it and sometimes I like to pick it up and give it back to the owner.

I know where to leave my shit to leave the least mess, wasn't always so, but I am like a free kid who wakes up seeing the universe new every day.

So I will enjoy my occasional enthusiasms, at least I entertain at a minimum being the fool,

Such is the life of a goat
I am the butt of every joke

That is how I know all the jokes.

That's how you expand your awareness, remove the boundaries and concepts and fly free.

By becoming all things, by realizing what is real.

I feel usually if you can't laugh, why live here?

Immortals may be real, I never will know.

Anyone who says they do...can say what they like, I won't bother them unless they say that stupid shit around me Wink

I dropped all that shit, but you know, I'm more connected than ever to what I do and where I am, without a lot of anxiety.

Not a bad deal considering.

Being practical is the best course for el chivo.

I guess going with the harmony may have something to it.

Which of course is the only reason I share about it as I like.

I live here and can only speak about living here and what that is like.

This is full contact living and dying.

No take backs.

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Post by whoknows Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:55 pm

Knowing can be a funny thing, what ever I think I know one minute can become something else the next .
To me from PPOV at the mo, is all about fluidity. Hmmm fate can be what you make it. I don’t think it’s external to what ever we are. But I also think I need to take care not to become too self centered.

I’ve just been tripping out on this guy. https://youtu.be/2qcsWajivnI

Btw have you ever watched the “Zeitgeist” movies? With so much time on my hands I watched them again yesterday. I don’t agree with their POV totally, but there are some interesting thoughts there.

I know one thing, I rather my mistakes be my own rather than a machine’s.
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Post by dan Fri May 01, 2020 5:19 am

1119Z........

So, yes...... the buttons of the prophetic tradition may need to be pushed.  

This will be true especially if we we’re not getting back to business as usual.  

The virus was a godsend, if it facilitated our reckoning with our destiny.  

We shall see, soon enough.  

The best possible world may be viewed as the best possible wheel of Samsara........ but one that doesn’t actually turn...... it is a singular, Ouroboroic circuit....... in other words, it is we, ‘muppets’, who do the turning, not the wheel.  

This is simply a restatement of our small, personal, BPW.

Our coming to this realization will be our final realization...... enabling our final participation.  

Thus begins our final migration to the center of the wheel..... to the center of our Ouroboric circuit...... which is the Monad ..... the Source...... the Alpha and Omega...... cosmic consciousness..... Buddha/christ consciousness...... what have you.....

Ok, it is our Satori, if you will.  

Eric/smelly loves nothing more than to pretend to be sitting at the Center...... mocking the rest of us, muppets, struggling around him, as he tries to trip us up.  

Don’t worry Eric, you’re our best possible tripper upper.  

When we get to the Monad, we won’t be in Kansas anymore.  

smelly is still in Kansas...... he just pretends hard not to be.  

One might say that smelly is our favorite Great Pretender...... there is one in every crowd.  

smelly is blind to the Wheel of Samsara....... he cannot feel the suffering....... or tries to pretend not to feel.

In that way, he is a bully, much like our President, Donald Trump.

We will bring Eric around...... we will bring Donald around.  

Well, frankly speaking, Donald may be too far around the bend.  

There is still hope for the goat 🐐.  

smelly is like....... I’ve got mine...... the rest of you can eat my dust.  

Look 👀 around you, smelly..... you’re still in Kansas.  

Don’t try to pretend that you’re not.  

The closer we get to the true Monad, the more we will be able to help our fellow muppets.  

Even the bguy understood that much.  

smelly....... go toward the light..... you’ve got to go toward the light 💡.  

You are like a ghost 👻, not being able to tear yourself away from your old haunts.  

Go straight to the Center..... do not pass go.  

When you get to Buddha consciousness, then you will be able to come back and help the rest of us ......... thank you very much.  

You got half way home...... and then decided to take a snooze...... just keep moving along, everyone..... there’s nothing to see 👀 here.  

Of course, we’d like to think 🤔 that the goat 🐐 is the final nemesis of the chick 🐥.

It took the virus 🦠 to get Eric’s goat 🐐.  I hope it was worth it, sports 🏀 fans 💗.  

This event may not have registered ® on the Richter scale..... not yet........ just be a little bit patient, please.  



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