Buddha-jguy

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I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......

OK Princess, if you have something to add to the world, I'd say now is the time, past the time.

But, things could get worse.

I don't know what you have in your bag.

In other news, I'm starting my first Company!

http://bicameral.io

Software/Cloud/Internet of Things/AI consulting.

Paperwork is a hassle but smelly goat is going out on his own....finally!

If you need any services in these areas, please DM me

Best wishes, smelly....... we might even say Godspeed, if it weren’t to be taken the wrong way......!


Disclosure has certainly gone past my sell-by date, but then I’m just a chick .

I think we are sick in our culture because we have a DMT deficiency.

https://www.labroots.com/trending/drug-discovery-and-development/17838/psychedelic-dmt-improves-wellbeing-89-people

Can’t hurt.

I predict psychedelic therapy is going to explode and the rich and famous will be awakened.

A Thelemic view on Traditionalism.

Most don’t have any idea what this is talking about.

I offer this is as a taste from the darker corners of post-modern society.

I have no opinion on the veracity of Guenon’s prophecy and think some Thelemites are true seekers and holders of the flame.

They feel they are the chosen and called and the rest or lost.

The called.

The chosen.

The smelly farts on the chosen.

But anyone using their focus will find this.

The rituals are just like setting a stage in a play.

You practice your part.

You go through the motions and on premiere night, if you have prepared well, you will have a real performance.

One calls themselves forth from the depths.

https://www.ordoastri.org/guenon-crisis-modern-world-revisited/

Dan, you will like this part...

Isis continues to pray for the soul in darkness. If the soul should open to truth and hear her, then salvation is accomplished in that hour. The soul is thus prepared for resurrection.

“I am the woman who gives light in darkness. I have come to lighten the darkness. I have lightened the darkness and overthrown the destroyers. Thrice times, the darkness is made light! I have prayed for all those who as yet dwell in darkness, who have hidden their faces, who have fallen and who weep. If they should only look upon me, then at last they shall know me! Then I shall raise them up. For I am the woman of whom the profane know not. I cannot speak for those who will not hear me.”

We are all doomed to die as soon as we are born on this earth. Only love triumphs over all, even death. Isolationism is the absence of love. When love is entirely absent, death ensues for mind, body and soul.

The stoics had no prophecies and that is why I love them.

I am so sick of all these DMT tripping muppets and their stupid prophecies.

It is love that shines in darkness and that’s all you need to do and know.

https://iao131.com/2013/03/19/11-principles-of-thelemites/

That's how to remember which way limestone formations are created.

Mites go up and tites come down.


Hobbit little mite.

I never have liked tites, stockings should be mandatory.

A great chat up line was to do with the laughing line.
When girls asked what that was You just offered to show them ( top of nylons)
Once your hand reached there You were laughing.

1400z..........

Chivo/Eric,

You have no need of prophecy.  

You already have your inner, microcosmic world immediately at hand.

You already have your window on Eternity.  

You believe that your ‘solitary’ path to gnosis is the only honest path.  

All the rest of us are cheating muppets.  

All the rest of us muppets will just have to make do with love .  


1500.........

The whole point of Christianity is vicarious atonement.  

That is anathema to Chivo, bless his heart.  

So, ok, you have found your path.  Is it fair play to block the other paths?  You may believe that your honest path is the only righteous path, and the rest of will eventually have to pay the penalty.  

Ok, we thank you for the warning.  

What has been impossible to convey to Chivo/Eric is that we may in a normal situation.  

Chivo speaks words of wisdom for normal spirituality..... for normal times.  

The entire notion of an historical crisis is simply nonsensical for the goat .  

From the perspective of Eternity, there is no history.... there are no crises....... again..... wonderful.....

Part of the irony here is that neither goat nor chick believe in free will....... what we think or say will make no difference to anything.  

Nor will not doing something make any difference.  

So, to be true to our lights, we should simply stop trying to proselytize one another.  

But does that make any sense, either?  

Not  talking is not really an option, unless we become Trappist monks.



(cont........)

This is just shedding of the outer.

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

It doesn’t matter what we say at all.

It only matters to each of us how we live.

I’m not trying to convince you.

You can’t be convinced of anything.

I am just fartin around.

Though the world may be in crisis.

Here, we are not.

Honestly Dan, I’ve been waiting my whole life for now.

Shed your skin.

Radiate.

Something in me says, swing away.

Batter up!

You are pitching softballs 🥎 dude.

Give me the heat.

Let me see that fast ball.

There is no way better than this.

There was never any path here.

We must meet ourselves and do battle.

I am not denying anyone’s path.

Hey, if a god wants to show up in the sky, be my guest.

But it was always true that the simple person living their life here was always good enough.

I fart on the pretenders and the saints both.

If one isn’t a happy joyful soul in the worst times, you are a lost one.

Hey Dan, guess who Sophia joins with in the Tarot, the Holy Fool.

The beginning and the end.

The Fool and the The World.

Mine is the no path of the Holy Fool.

Am I not foolish?

1600.......

Yes, God must find the righteous to be boring, otherwise she wouldn’t have created so many of us sinners.

But, yes, the simple person leading the simple life...... is like buying no fault insurance.... you can’t go wrong.  

If you can’t resist playing with fire ...... well, don’t go crying to mommy.  


1700.......

Chivo,

You deserve a break....... after all your TLC.  

I’m sorry about my dearth of fast balls .  My repertoire is limited.  

However, Sophia/Shakti might also be a drama queen..... she may not wish to go out with a whimper.  

Or we may only be able to see the MoAPS by looking in the rear view mirror.  

Or there may not be a MoAPS....... we may go down with materialism.... go down with the dinosaurs 🦖.  


1830......

I would be interested in knowing if there were any serious discussions of materialism amongst university faculty.  I suspect not.  There would be no evangelizing, one way or the other.  

Such discussions would be more prevalent amongst students, of course.  

It would be difficult for philosophy classes to avoid the subject of ontology....... one would suppose..... perhaps naively.  

Postmodernism, in its many guises, is taken seriously on most campuses, would be fair to say.  

On the other hand, one could ask to what if any extent hard core materialists are identifiable on campuses, these days.  

A biologist touting teleology, beyond mere teleonomy, would be hard to find, outside of explicitly religious colleges, and maybe even there.  

On youtube, there are numerous discussions along these lines, which might fill in a number of gaps in people’s exposure to these issues.  

Closer to the Truth and Thinking Allowed are two such channels.  Kuhn even gives consideration to eschatology.  

I looked more closely, and Kuhn only ever gets into personal eschatology.  

Mishlove is a purveyor of immaterialism, but only of the acosmic/mystical sort.  Kuhn frequently deals with consciousness.

What I find particularly depressing is that, even amongst academic environmentalists who are likely to be versed ELE type eschatology, there is no concerted attempt to think outside the materialist box.  

The deep ecology folks are wont to wax mystical, but not on academic time.  


2000.......

Academia even, or especially, in the postmodern era is about the commoditization of knowledge.  The Eschaton is not easy to commoditize.  

Academies have become factories ...... what else is there to say?

Religious institutions are hardly any better.  

The internet...... well, there is always OM, but don’t ask where is our sister board.  

The closest thing I’ve found to the small world hypothesis (SWH) is neo-geocentrism....... https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/the-rise-of-neo-geocentrism/  2016 by John Horgan.....

But if neo-geocentrism bugs me, so do militant materialism and atheism, which belittle our craving for transcendent meaning, and seem oblivious to the extraordinary improbability of our existence. And after all, without minds to ponder it, the universe might as well not exist.

I guess what I’m advocating is a simple acknowledgment that no theory or theology can do justice to the mystery of our existence. That modest agnosticism, it seems to me, is what Homo sapiens would choose.

Not half bad, for Scientific American.  

There are openings in the darkest corners...... the light does come through.  


2220.........

Here is what Eric doesn’t get........

There is a difference between satori and transcendence.  

The latter contains a numinous dimension.

Satori is more about escape..... transcendence is more about arrival.  

Satori is more about individual salvation, whereas transcendence has more to do with Rapture.  


2340.........

Satori is about escape.  

Transcendence is about overcoming.  


0150........

For a contrasting view....... https://activephilosophy.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/salvation-or-satori/

According to Dr Benoit, salvation is coerced by the threat of Hell.

This is a fair criticism of the traditional prophetic view, especially on the Christian side.  

I would agree, but Hell has no place in the BPW.    

Salvation at the point of a gun is not to be recommended.  

Whose fault was that?  Did Jesus make a boo boo?  

Maybe, but I’m a tad skeptical.  



(cont........)

Ok Dan, you have a window to breathe.

I’m taking a break from all social media and news for awhile.

I will commune with my bad ass smelly self.

Enjoy.

I misspoke, yesterday, in comparing satori and salvation.  

Rather satori might be compared with being born again...... an enlightenment.  Nirvana would be compared with Heaven.  

Chivo/Eric discounts any sort of survival or afterlife, which he says is merely a distraction from living life fully.  

One might just as well be a hedonist.  

This could be the best possible world for Eric, but what about all the unenlightened....... the ‘muppets’?  

One thing starkly missing is any sense of brotherhood..... soulmates.  

Sunyata hardly provides a base for sisterhood.  

Sunyata is hardly a Source.  At most, it is a ground.  

How could the Buddhists be so wrong?  

What they got right was anatta.  

Conceptually, the only way to the best possible world (BPW) is through the concept of a Creator.  The notion of co-Creation comes out of that.  

Buddhism might best be understood as a modification of Hinduism, which, in turn, was a modification of tribalism.


2030........

I’m pleasantly surprised to see to what extent the core concepts of the BPW are included in Hinduism....... particularly the idea of moksha..... becoming one with the Source/Brahman.  

It is with the idea of eternal return, the caste system and the devaluing of the world that Hinduism runs off the rails.  Buddhism corrected some of these problems.  

The concept of eternal return, however, is a reasonable approximation to the essential concept of the BPW being embedded in Eternity..... identifying the Alpha and Omega.  

Ironically, however, the anatta notion of Buddhism may be more compatible with personalism than is the idea of transmigration.  

Also, Buddhism has an evangelical aspect that Hinduism lacks.  The idea of the possibility of immediate personal enlightenment is a core concept, for instance.  

This ‘gospel’ is the basis of its universalism.  One cannot easily aspire to Hinduism.  

Hinduism can be seen as an almost natural amalgamation of tribal beliefs, however, Buddhism contains an irreducible charismatic spark, with its own progressive history.  

Certainly the Amitabha is closely related to the risen Christ.  

The lack here is of a historical or communal dimension.  It is a highly dispersed/individualistic soteriology.  

There is no sense of a cosmic family..... cosmic clan, which would be the basis of an interpersonalism...... of a coCreation..... of a Metanarrative.



(cont........)

http://www.auricmedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/A_Journey_to_the_Earth-Marschall_B.Gardner.pdf

If one lived inside, would going to hell be a down escalator to here?

And what if there are multiple layers both inside this reality both above and below what We consider to be the only one?

Hobbit

1230z.......

hobbit,

How many times do I have to say...... many mansions?

By the same token, I hasten to to point out that we are the Grand Central station of the cosmos.  

The Hitch Hiker’s Guide starts here.  The Hive starts here.  

Why do you think the jguy came here?

Do you suppose that the jguy is the galactic Santa Claus , hopping down every chimney in the Milky Way ?

Maybe that X marks the spot.... the cosmic crux...... be here or be square.  Why else would you have come to this vale of tears ...... this valley of death ?

But, anyway, hobbit, in the small world, there is no there, out there..... there is no Planet X..... it’s dimension X.  And I wouldn’t expect you to understand the concave/inverted Earth hypothesis..... it is meant as a ‘toy’ model for theoretical physicists.  

We are dealing with dimensions of consciousness..... with altered states...... this is not for literal minded modernists.  Unless you keep hammering on the virtual/holographic/inter-dimensional aspect of reality, the modernists will take you for a furry astronaut  🦦

If you try to sound like a scientist , that is what people will take you for.  Please, don’t try to pretend that you’re not a hobbit.  
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I feel confident, in my own, mind that everyone who is not pretending to be a scientific materialist 🧪 is necessarily a personalist..... but it just seems so unprofessional, that we try to hide behind our rocketships .  

Particularly, smelly was a personalist.  smelly’s only problem was his lack of understanding for the ‘muppets’ of the world...... us, working stiffs.  

All of us like to think we’re special...... especially us, guys, who go around calling ourselves Jesus.  I mean really.......!

And I might have to stop calling myself Jesus, when I finally realize I’m too old to dress up as a kitty for 3.5’s ninth birthday party.  

Us, Jesuses, just can’t get no respect .  

That’s why I believe that our Millennium has come and gone.  

Were the last 2,000 years God’s Kingdom?  They sure didn’t look like it.  

Well, if you were living in a gated community, and shut you eyes and ears , you might be able to pretend..... for five minutes.  

My problem is that the Princess refuses to discuss philosophy.  Even 3.5 refuses!  


1500.......

Let’s face it, philosophy is just not in the flow, as smelly used to point out, bless his heart.  

I know what....  I could came to the party pretending to be an old philosopher..... dressed in short pants .  Folks might feel sorry for me.  

Ok, so we’re all personalists, trying to pretend not to be.  Personalism is just too folksy........ face it, it doesn’t fit into these fraught times.  

The Buddhists are deflationary personalists.  chick is an inflationist.  

Give me an ant hill, and I’ll make a mole hill.  

Or is it the other way around........?

We gotten so used to being lost in space and time that we just don’t want anyone to box us in.  That’s a tough one .  

We are used to fast cars and rocket ships . We don’t want your old nag..... why don’t you just put her out to pasture?



(cont.......)

When I silence myself and sink into the darkness like death the only things that come up now are flowers vegetables and poems.

The rest is just my act.

I am a happy blessed goat.

While the world dissolves we seem to thrive and prosper.

I know why, there is nothing to fear here.

The disturbances were all much ado about nothing.

Because we have chosen to accept love here.

We have admitted we know nothing but love.

And then we will be gone and will be forgotten.

But not yet...

1600z..........

Chivo does mellow, just a tad.  


Personalism is so ubiquitous that the only way to stake out a philosophical or professional claim was to depart from it.  We have departed....... mightily.  

Even, or especially, the jguy had to depart from it, bless his heart.  

Abraham departed from it.  


2030........

Did the jguy depart from personalism?

If he did it would have mainly been through an emphasis on Hell.

But, it must be pointed out that Hell was the epitome of the personal.  

Being righteous had a strong element of the interpersonal.  Banishment was anything but.  

As for the seed of Abraham/Sarah/Isaac, it seems to be a reversion to, or a residue of, tribalism.  Who ordered that, in the best possible world?  

Tribalism is highly interpersonal.  It might be seen as a correction to the individualistic nature of capitalism.  

Families and clans are, generally, a necessary and positive force in history.  The family, of course, is absolutely essential.  

The idea of a chosen sibling is an antidote to excesses of clannishness, in general.  

The notion of the seed, as a vector to the final days........ it is hard to imagine history...... a Metanarrative without it.  

That the jguy was chosen..... as a ‘crucial’ part of the orchestration........ there can be little doubt.  

As for the seed of Sarah....... a clannish case was transformed into a cosmic case....... or history is what you can get away with.  

Interpersonalism would not be a shift....... it would just be a reversion to our default worldview.  We’ve tried our darndest to transcend this parochial worldview...... reaching for absolute objectivity...... an objectivity that just wasn’t there, in the end.  

For us to be led so far from the Source, there had to be a cosmic conspiracy....... a conspiracy toward the scientific saving of the appearances...... toward a false summit of objectivity.  

Only as we reach the edge of the precipice do we reconsider how we managed to get there.  

How much of the scientific path was self constructed..... how much deliberate deception..... on the part of our eternal Self?  

It is a moot question.  

But isn’t it too late to turn around?

Yes it is...... we have no choice but to take the leap..... we just have to hope that someone has opened the portal on the other side of the chasm.  

Isn’t this where Disclosure was supposed to have kicked in?  

Well, there seems to be some difference of opinion on that matter.  

If Disclosure ever comes, it’ll be a big surprise for everyone..... especially for chick .



(cont.......)

You know...rage rage rage against the dying of the light and all that shit.

Ack has been very quiet recently

The "deception by our eternal selves"

Has had Me wondering ever since My vehicle shouted at ME "Your not supposed to ever see this"

It then went on to declare that it was encoded to keep ME above ground to experience what I needed to experience.

I was told by MY eternal self that the ME occupies the sort of black hole reversal zone in the vehicles heart.

The heart been the central pinch point of two intertwined flows of consciousness traversing up and down the pole the vehicle is constructed upon.

WHY????...Was I not supposed to have ever known such?

The sense I have is that I am at school......building the knowledge.



hobbit

1340z.........

hobbit,

It sounds like a double helix that you are describing.  

The helixes 🧬 are used for information storage, which might be likened to a flow of consciousness.  

The heart might then be analogous to a ribosome.  

I don’t have a handle on the meaning of the (complementary?) counter-flows.  But, yes, our DNA does keep us ‘grounded’.... for sure!

One could think of the Earth as a Golgi complex...... or some such biological analogy...... populated with ribosomes.  

Just analogyzing...... off the top..... on the fly......
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The fact of death, in time and space, is very individualistic..... regardless of whether you are East or West.  

So where does the communalism kick in?

Clans are to communalism, as original is to final participation..... that is on this side of the portal.  They are our landing pads and launching pads, respectively.  

In both cases, they form our ground.  They are the nuclei of the Earth...... or our Golgi complex, if you like.  


1440.........

The commune is more ad hoc than the clan..... more adaptable to the exigencies of being homeward bound.  

Am I just biased to the former over the latter?  

Clans are mainly ad hoc for multiplying...... it seems obvious.  

The trip home has more to do with amalgamation.  

It may not be possible to segue directly from clan to commune..... there may have to be a pupal/cocoon stage, in metamorphosing from larva to butterfly .  Yes, chick is a bit biased.  

The concave Earth is our shell...... also hive.....



(cont........)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/53049428


The sun light "BENDS" HAS ALWAYS HAD ME SCRATCHING MY HEAD, AND IT TOOK A LONG LONG TIME FOR MYSELF TO COME TO TERMS WITH FINDING A TOTALLY FIXED MATRIX.
AFTER ALL I WAS INDOCTRINATED TO BELIEVE that the earth was spinning and zooming along at millions of M.P.H.

This weekend is a new moon and summer solstice, 19 years after 9/11.

hobbit

The Saros/Eclipse cycle is 18.999 years.

The fact that the Saros is an ‘almost integer’ probably means something.  

hobbit may know that ratios of the Fibonacci numbers are rich in ‘almost integers’.  Most of the integral coincidences are not fully understood...... there are hand waving arguments, at best.  

There is not even a hand waving argument for why (e^pi) - pi ~ 20. Numbers have this ‘organic’ quality, about which we have no clue.

I suspect that it is somehow embedded in the Anthropic Principle..... considering the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics, etc......



(cont.......)

Dan,

We are constructed by and of consciousness, so naturally We will eventually return to such.

We are though our own universe of consciousness viewing a far larger consciousness and therefore cannot compute the fractional differences that such scale differences create due to the dual spiral nature of each , we are thus bewildered when our mathematics throw up such very close results.

I have tried ever so hard to think spirally, it really drives one around the bend.

( the term going around the bend originates from the serpentine route to Victorian mental hospitals in GB, it was designed so that from the gateway the hospital could not be seen, one had to go around the bend to see it)

If instead of the current indoctrination of seeing along a straight line with an arrow like return, instead You think of Your transmission going out on your spiral field of consciousness and returning along the opposite spiral route ( C goes out of the window) then the fractional differences fall into place, as does such as the great pyramid been fractionally off the cardinal points.

hobbit