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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:14 am

    First topic message reminder :

    I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

    The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

    Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop 🛑 the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......


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    Post by whoknows Thu May 21, 2020 12:28 pm

    Yes smelly the smell of fish is strong all around us.

    And here we are the garden..... Ever smell those flowers that smell like rotting 🥩

    We were indeed freed by the snake. To grow the garden that is us. Yet we let others tend and feed us.

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu May 21, 2020 12:30 pm

    I smelled those plants at the SF Gardens wk.

    They also have a beautiful butterfly 🦋 sanctuary there.

    I’m not really bothered by all the smelly fish.

    Wei Wu Wei, doing not doing, is how to move and live in a dream.

    Chivo is much much much wiser than chick.

    Obviously.
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    Post by whoknows Thu May 21, 2020 12:36 pm

    Yeah, I love flutterby’s, humming birds and well, even people.

    No choice really.😜
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    Post by whoknows Thu May 21, 2020 12:50 pm

    Want to know what cards I drew on the fait of humanity, 4 card spread?
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    Post by dan Thu May 21, 2020 12:51 pm

    1850..........

    Maybe Chivo is just too smart....... by half.
    ............

    When you realize there is only thing, you realize there is not even a hill for us to roll it up....... even if we wanted to.  


    2000.......

    Look around, and see if you can find something to change....... and then think about it some more.......

    Suppose you look around and decide that you are overweight.  

    So, you decide to get more exercise, and go on a diet........

    Have you disproved the best possible world?  

    Yes, you have.  You have just proved that this is the only possible world.  

    Is there any difference?  

    Not really...... even in the best possible world, you have to keep breathing.  

    Ah, but do you have to keep thinking?  

    Try to stop thinking.  It’s only slightly easier than not breathing.  

    If Chivo had his way, there would be fewer ufologists.  

    I was a ufologist until I met the Princess.  Now, I’m no longer a ufologist.  

    I had met them, and they were us.  

    I already knew that, before I met the Princess...... but now I know it a little bit better.  

    Chivo knows that..... without meeting the Princess...... that’s how smart he is.  

    But Chivo has met the chick, and he has learned a thing or two.

    I have met the Chivo, and I have learned all his tricks...... often the hard way.  

    So, now there is only one of us, but Chivo hasn’t quite figured that out yet, or has he?  

    When you meet a visitor, you learn that you, too, are a visitor. I would never have believed that, until after I met the Princess.



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    Post by hobbit Thu May 21, 2020 12:57 pm

    Edutainment.
    Had to look that word up, learning from such as the TV, or computer games.

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu May 21, 2020 1:07 pm

    I like open people, not dumb closed people.

    You don't have to like everyone and they certainly won't like you.

    Friendships come and go.

    I'll always keep at least 1 friend Wink

    Watcha got wk?

    I don’t say one way is better than another with the cards.

    I only pick one card and meditate on it as a reflective mirror.

    I don’t put a lot of stock in the coincidence of the cards.

    But I know the cards are clear mirrors.

    I realized something else, everything is the Tarot.

    Tarot develops a way of intuitive being.

    But this card from my Wildwood deck could be seen as a wink from the mother.

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    It is the Goddess who initiates us into the Garden.

    I follow her green path of no path.

    Btw, it’s funny how distracted the entire ufo community is atm, isn’t it?

    If I ever taught a seminar at a 🛸 conference it would be how to grow a green portal.
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    Post by dan Thu May 21, 2020 2:35 pm

    How to grow a green portal.........

    The Princess has not explained that to me.  

    She is withholding that information from me.

    It must be above top secret.  I think you need a special actuator....... yes.... it is called a seed.  

    Seeds are way above top secret...... didn’t you know?  

    But can’t scientists make seeds in the laboratory?  

    Can’t scientists make life in the laboratory?  

    Many think they can.  

    It is above top secret that they are wrong.  

    The other thing they don’t know is that God can’t make life either.  

    To make life, you have to understand pratītyasamutpāda, which means that you can’t make life........ life can only arise codependently.  

    Life can arise only in total entanglement....... only in the only possible entanglement....... some call it the best possible entanglement..... but that was  not full Disclosure..... was it?  


    2130.........

    See, there is just no way to disentangle the world.  

    Can’t we just drop the bomb?  

    Not really.  

    Can’t we build another highway through the jungle?  That was our errand into the wilderness.   Our highway building days may be about finished.  

    And how many entanglements are there, anyway?  

    Silly question, right?  

    What is Chivo’s biggest hang up?  What is everyone’s biggest hang up?

    It is the gods.  There are either too many, too few, or the wrong ones.  

    With the only possible world, there is nothing left for God to do.  

    Solving the God problem is chick 🐥’s main problem.  

    There is the God needle, and somebody’s got to thread 🧵 it.  

    The MoAPS is the only way to thread that needle.  

    Yes, it’s partly what we know, but mainly it’s who we know, and I claim to know the Princess.

    She can’t really deny that she is my goddaughter, and she hasn’t.  

    End of story.  

    You have just made the acquaintance of the stealthiest possible Second Coming.  Can Chivo prove that I’m wrong?  

    Can I prove that I’m right?  

    I just have.  

    I’m just like Ack.  The Princess kept trying to explain to him how to open the portal....... until she gave up, and then he understood.  

    And when you go to the entanglement, be careful what you want to entangle for.



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    Post by whoknows Thu May 21, 2020 2:46 pm

    As you say no more than a reflection of my own hopes and aspirations.

    1) Daughter of Swords

    2) The Tower

    3) The High Priestess

    4) The Chariot

    And also agree about drawing one card.

    I only drew four because of the question. Curiosity really.
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    Post by whoknows Thu May 21, 2020 6:14 pm

    LoL today has turned into yesterday so soon. Cute. Must be merging with the reversevers.

    Oops this post became today again.

    Well, this is an interesting kettle of fish.

    Some how I now find myself in Reykjavik. Time stamp wise that is.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu May 21, 2020 8:51 pm

    I think I heard the princess best.

    And I did my little dance for her.

    Dan dances a good jig.

    But I only know, now for sure, I don’t need to know more than I do.

    Things will come to you.

    I cut to the root.

    That is a habit of the green ones.

    We learn to prune.

    Until one has pruned themselves, how could they do so in the world?

    I said there is no cheating possible.

    No speculation or word correct.

    If you have purified and dirtied yourself right, they will stick to you.

    I speak from experience.

    I don’t care who accepts it or not.

    But you should maybe give this a try.

    The gods are gone.

    We stand together now.

    All together now.
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    Post by dan Fri May 22, 2020 7:35 am

    1335z.........

    The gods are gone.

    We stand together now.

    All together now.
    Chivo 🐐 got that right..........

    And chick 🐥 is wont to say........ And how!

    There is only one soul, and we are holographic mmicrocosms of that cosmic self.  

    And the jguy came here to say that the cosmic self is our best buddy.  

    Visitors 1,2&3 are just the cleanup crew....... or the 4M/K/SoT/X2.  

    This is how we stand together....... sing together...... choirs of angels.  

    The BPW/MoAPS is our libretto.  

    All we, sinners, become one with God, and I do mean One ☝.  

    It’s Monadnock or Bust.  

    It’s a simple libretto....... just follow the light.  

    If you find yourself in a dark place, look for the light.  

    Reality will be becoming more porous...... more fluid.  

    Hide and seek.......?  All ye, all ye, in free......


    1440.........

    Think of a cosmic multiple personality ‘disorder’, and then just run the film backwards.  


    2040..........

    I’m reading........

    Strieber...... A New World (2019)

    Dolan.......  After Disclosure (2011)

    ...... a world of difference.  AD is almost comical in its breathlessness. AD might well be seen as a reductio ad absurdum of the ETH, but there are still many true believers out there.   

    Strieber is rather more restrained and multidimensional.  

    There is also Beyond UFOs (2018) by the Noetics Institute...... a multidimensional, but otherwise academic style anthology.  

    The virus is going to change this landscape.  



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri May 22, 2020 8:45 am

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24532770-400-we-may-have-spotted-a-parallel-universe-going-backwards-in-time/
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    Post by whoknows Fri May 22, 2020 12:56 pm

    https://apple.news/Aqr70DX_WRj-vBdZnIkmrew
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri May 22, 2020 1:34 pm

    Let me try to explain this to Trump and Fox.

    God is with you wherever you are.

    The only reason he is making this church issue is for the morons who want to deny the virus and meet and get sick.

    He knows nothing of faith, it is quite humorous to hear him talk about religion.



    Fox News...Christians are acting so carelessly because they think more about the life after than this one.

    Is that how Jesus said to live?

    The ultimate in muppet confusion.

    “Belief in an afterlife is a malignant delusion.”

    The republicans are happy to use the herd to take the disease hit.

    They are pushing the idiot fringe back to workz

    It’s evil.

    It’s just pure greed.

    Those disgusting businessmen pushing the evangelicals and fringe back out into public should go first.

    Ignoring their lives and somehow thinking acting insane somehow guarantees them heaven is the true disease.

    If you have not been faithful in the little things...

    And you can’t even begin to discuss this with them.

    It’s impossible for them to even consider they got it wrong.

    Oh well.

    And those on the right know this and push them to the edge anyway.

    They are desperate for power, but they are wrong.

    They have already lost.

    This is a dead world shucking off the husk of ignorance.

    I vote for not waiting to wake them up.

    The evil won’t stop pushing.

    Why should we?
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    Post by dan Sat May 23, 2020 6:50 am

    Chivo,

    How can one believe in an afterlife, if one doesn’t believe in a life?

    The monad is the cosmic self interacting with itself.

    The separation is the illusion. The end of separation is simply the awakening to the whole.

    No?

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat May 23, 2020 10:36 am

    We can see this, but most can’t.

    That is a mystery to me.

    Total mind body delusion in the illusion.

    They think they have rights.

    Ha.

    They think somehow expressing their belief and ignoring the world is a life.

    The ignorance is true separation.

    I can’t imagine ever living so lost and divided, but I was.

    Who helped me?

    All of this helped me and I give my best back best I can.

    To think there is a person here they have to strive to be.

    While all along it was simply letting go of heaven and hell and life and death to realize the whole.

    I spend my time practicing, not control of my emotions, but learning not to act on the worst ones.

    Us Stoics know how hard it is not to control things or know and then we have these lazy muppets claiming god to justify their fear.

    We have fools running around saying the sky is falling, like chicks Wink

    But we endure this, sometimes with a grin.

    We have muppets claiming science is the holy only way and we simply know they are wrong.

    A secret, we Stoics live in joy.

    We are the true Christians.

    I am holding the light for the others until they can see it.

    Emotions muddy everything.

    Some emotions raise us up and some tear us down, but we are here when they are silent.

    I heard some of these corrupt conservatives from the Hoover Institute, what a joke of fake intellectualism, this place is funded by the Kochs.

    Pinker said recently this sale of the afterlife is a malignant tumor and he is right!

    So the Hoover goon squad comes on Fox and lies all about it.

    They don’t inform, they lie about Humanism saying oh it’s epicurean hedonism or it’s faith, really?

    Luckily we aren’t all stupid.

    They know better and they say, there is no better.

    Take religion out of it and let these flowers open, but then they can’t control them, then we become incorruptible.

    It makes me so sad sometimes to see this kind of blatant teaching of ignorance.

    These are men destroyed by their love of control and power, truly they are the great evil in the world.

    It is these rich assholes who are most divided.

    They were raised learning how to think with the best of philosophy and their answer was to rape the world.

    They have no quality, they are thieves.

    And they fund groups to keep man confused not helping them realize the whole.

    Theirs is the greatest evil.

    They know what we could be. But they actively suppress humanity for nothing more than greed.

    They don’t really know, they never really woke up.

    If they had, they wouldn’t act like this.

    I can not, after realizing my freedom, even imagine deliberately deceiving others about themselves.

    It matters Dan, we can’t just say, oh, it’s an illusion, that’s why they get it so wrong.

    Uh uh.

    These are the ones to call out.

    There is nothing for a stoic to regret, ever, if we are doing all we can.

    And we call others to find their own quality and we serve the whole doing this.

    I’m just sharing the grief I feel about how stupid and evil we are being.

    I have answered them with my own quality and life and now am beyond their silliness, but I see them actively hurting others and it makes me angry.

    Life is hard enough, without others actively making it more difficult.

    How dare they try to limit anyone else’s life.

    Part of me could be so angry as to rise and fight them, but I know fighting isn’t the way.

    Other people’s behavior isn’t my problem really.

    I don’t seek to control anyone or the world.

    I have to accept it as it is and I do now.

    I speak less and less.

    For whatever this is, it shines.

    I just can let it be.

    It takes deliberate work and effort to hide and occlude it.

    It is easy to be happy.

    Let go
    Let go
    Let go

    Two men shining...

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    Post by hobbit Sat May 23, 2020 11:49 am

    "rich assholes" will soon dictate a mandatory vaccine, their agenda is depopulation.

    So YOU will basically be crucified for their belief .

    There will be no chance of refusal....resistance is futile.


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat May 23, 2020 12:56 pm

    “Humanity will not be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.”
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    Post by whoknows Sat May 23, 2020 7:06 pm

    El Chivo, you been watching, Glenn Greenwood? He’s getting down to the nitty gritty of late.

    Blinders need to come off.

    Don’t know about another bloody revolution though... Never seem to come form a stable space.
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    Post by dan Sun May 24, 2020 5:47 am

    Ok, Princess, I will meet you in your garden........
    Do you know how gardens work?  
    I claim to be the only one to know how gardens work...... logically.  
    Gardens, of course, are a sort of portal..... a very entangled one.
    You knew this much, but how much more do you know?  
    Maybe this could be our joint project...... you on the intuitive end....... me on the logical end..... a kind of push-pull engine.  

    The main logic to understand is that scientists don’t understand how gardens work, even though they will also make that claim, with great vehemence.

    What scientists don’t understand is the pratītyasamutpāda of gardens.  

    I don’t understand it, either, but knowing what I don’t understand it puts me ahead of the game....... way ahead.  

    But the Buddha invented Pratītyasamutpāda.  Didn’t he understand it?  

    He did, but he wasn’t quite able to articulate it.

    The same goes for all the rest of us....... except chick 🐥, of course.

    Well, I can’t articulate it either, but I know that I will be able to, with a little help from my friends.  

    That’s how God works...... by the delegation of authority.

    What authority is chick 🐥‘s?

    Chick 🐥 has  all the authority he needs, when he needs it.  

    So does every last one of you.  

    This is called communion........ which is just another form of Pratītyasamutpāda, which simple fact Buddha wasn’t quite able to articulate.  

    If you want to understand Pratītyasamutpāda, you should start with the most difficult thing...... all the rest will be easy.  

    The most difficult thing to understand about gardens is the Sun, so that is where we should start........


    1310.........

    Those of you who are not just day trippers will know that I have explained the Logos of the Sun many times before........ but each time, there is a slight variation on the theme....... this time will be no exception......

    In the context of gardening, we obviously want to focus on the logos Spermatikos aspect of the Sun.



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    Post by hobbit Sun May 24, 2020 7:29 am

    Fields within fields within fields within fields.

    If one field does not exist neither do all the others.

    In isolation.....

    The suns field......supplies and interacts with the earths field, and the plants know this interaction far better than dopey humans.


    Nothing is growing in the garden, it is all about field transmutation enabled ( powered) by the suns field in collaboration with mother earths field.

    SPIN is central with counter rotating spin field enabling the spin of combined fields to compress into a so called atom.
    https://www.freeenergyplanet.biz/free-energy-from-nature/the-implosion-machine.html

    Implosion spin with counter outrush spin of consciousness.








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