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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:14 am

    First topic message reminder :

    I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

    The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

    Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop 🛑 the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......


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    Post by dan Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:58 pm

    Good to have you back, 99.........

    I’m hopeful that you will a few improvements....... not too many, but just enough.
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    Post by 99 Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:36 pm

    Thanks Dan and just want you to know that I accept the challenge!

    Here's one for ya...

    The only thing that’s going to save us, are our vivid imaginations. Like, for example, scientists are saying that our planet is in the midst of a total global meltdown but, believe it or not,  that may be the best solution to put an end to the global pandemic... so things are really not as bad as it seems… ya know?
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    Post by dan Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:02 am

    0600z..........

    Kevin is ready to support your role as interlocutor on this mission. This is NOT a disclosure mission.
    this was stated last Wednesday....... but one thing has led to another.......

    For instance, we had a zoom meeting with joe on Sunday, while he was back in the hospital.  

    And then there was the session with Princess...... and I’m still trying to remember if that was before or after the zoom.  (I’m thinking it was before).  

    My memory is slowly coming back........

    Now, back in the good old days, Joe would simply have been eliminated...... not with prejudice or anything, but simply because we didn’t know what else to do.  

    Now a days, it’s a little trickier, especially if chick 🐥 is involved, and I’ve been involved with joe since ’95...... elimination is not really an option.  

    So, poor Uncle Sam is being driven to wits end with and by joe.

    In for a dime..... in for a dollar...... let’s throw chick 🐥 at the problem...... and see what happens....... what’s happening?  

    Let’s see...... Brazil 🇧🇷 was when........?

    Panama 🇵🇦 was over three years ago.  

    And then there was Spain 🇪🇸.  

    Spain was about Ebola....... and the Princess going around the block at the Dali.  

    I had sat out for the Italy 🇮🇹 trip, where Princess went around the block at the Vatican, and Benedict resigned 😑.  

    I’m thinking 🤔 that Brazil 🇧🇷 trip was more than two years ago.  

    So what?  I forgot why we were wondering.......

    We’re trying to treat joe, and it’s not supposed to be about Disclosure...... but, I mean, give me a break.......

    It’s also about treating donny...... you know...... come to the jguy.  

    I’m thinking 🤔 maybe they were using joe to reconnoiter the chick 🐥, or more like...... where was the chick 🐥 coming from........ not as if it should have been rocket 🚀 science 🧬.......

    Maybe donny also has portal fatigue.

    I think it was only this January that I drove Kevin into the snowbank.

    Gosh, a lot has happened since then.  

    Frank Cutler freaked out when when foot 🦶 told him that chick 🐥 was being put on the case.  

    For instance, did Wuhan happen right after the snowbank?  

    That was quick.......


    0740.........

    So, maybe the August surprise should be donny coming to the jguy, but no one would believe it without the joe story....... 23 times..... no wonder.  

    And mainly joe just wants his computers 💻  back from the ‘pawn’ shop!  

    Folks operate on these different levels without realizing it.

    joe’s real problem is that he’s not facing up to his portal work.  

    He’s desperately trying to compartmentalize....... as are we..... science tried to compartmentalize religion.  It almost worked.

    Science wants desperately to compartmentalize the world...... lots a luck 🍀.  

    And how can I trust FTGM when he’s trying to mislead me about three?  Give me a break..... some Tunafish you are.  

    23 trips to heaven to talk to God.  Maybe joe’s looking for god in all the wrong places....... and yes, we do make house calls........ much to joe’s chagrin.

    I know what...... joe should be talking to smelly.  That would be a laugh 😂 riot.  



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    Post by dan Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:17 am

    1520z.......

    As a new day dawns, I’m waiting to hear from Kevin.  

    I’m hopeful that all is quiet 🤫 on the Western front........ just not too quiet.

    My attempt at talk therapy, yesterday, had limited success.  

    There was anxiety about not having enough computer access.  

    Yes, I’m experiencing a lack of communication from the lake.

    Perhaps conversation is being sought elsewhere.

    The only one I’ve heard from is three.  


    1630........

    Well, I’ve managed to get one little peep out of Kevin.  

    But nobody is in a great rush to resume our little sessions.  


    1940.........

    Also on offer to Joe is that I will support his bid to be the Second Coming..... as long as he demonstrates his understanding of what that is likely to entail.




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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:00 pm

    It would do no one any good to speak to me or one like me.

    They can only find themselves.

    Chickie Baby wrote:
    Also on offer to Joe is that I will support his bid to be the Second Coming..... as long as he demonstrates his understanding of what that is likely to entail.

    How big of you not to eliminate him ;0

    The idea of a Second Coming is pure evil.

    There was no First Coming.

    No one is showing up but us.

    So, what to do?

    Straighten out your own thoughts and opinions.

    "If someone can prove me wrong and show me my mistake in any thought or action, I shall gladly change. I seek the truth, which never harmed anyone: the harm is to persist in one's own self-deception and ignorance.” --Marcus Aurelius

    You can deceive yourself and stay ignorant your whole life if you like.

    Here is some good Vedic woo woo...

    We have 300k more years to go to get through the Kali Yuga.

    75% evil 25% bliss, we gotta lot of suffering coming. We live the smallest lifetimes in the Kali Yuga.

    You could say we all deserve to be here.

    Now who do you think told them Hindus all dat?

    Why didn’t it tell the Jews similar?

    We all hear what our mind and env and body together allow in a certain time.

    The Christian beliefs are all stolen, a soup of ancient sects and forbidden writing.

    It is a political religion after all, including the Catholic Church.

    More and more I lean toward the new story of our past.

    We are a devolved version of ourselves now.

    We went though a great environmental collapse 100k years ago and we lost our true past.

    Well, if we were that advanced then, we should have some lasting evidence or we really lost it during the ice age and their lands are under water now.

    Maybe the princess knows Wink

    Dan would say something about the hollow earth maybe.

    Dan’s story is more like a comic book than anything written.

    Why hasn’t anyone written a Disclosure comic using Dan’s BPW?

    Quantum Physics is cool as comics.

    His myth could be quite good.



    Bohm’s youtube video discussions with J Krishnamurti are the best,  been watching these and his talks on consciousness are just amazing.

    He points to the true portal.

    Blows all this UFO surface speculation and search for documents away.

    The implicate order informs the explicate unfoldment of what is enfolded.

    Does quantum potential guide the electrons?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:00 am

    Dan, 5am?

    Sigh.

    He gets excited once or twice a year.

    The plan can wait for smelly goat to rise and shine.

    You woke me up.

    The last thought I had before almost falling back asleep was that rituals can be used to better feel the implicate.

    They do that at CERN Wink
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    Post by dan Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:40 am

    1240z..........

    Yes, smelly, thank you for reminding us of David, at this particular juncture.  

    Yes, this is all about how the implicate interfaces with the explicate......... namely through us.  

    Understand that Kev and Chev are presently holed-up under my august auspices and authority.  

    They hold the key to the interpersonal dimension of the implicate order, by which immanentize the Eschaton.  

    And we do this leading up to November........ we implement the implicate.  

    And all of this has been written in the stars.  

    The cosmic trigger is simply the emergence of the Truth....... it will set us free.  

    That, specifically, chick 🐥 is the amanuensis, is only of academic/historical interest....... but the fact that chick is just another person is of....... general interest.  

    Chev has had about two dozen excursions, which is more than the law allows....... mere mortals.  

    So Chev is the top gun of the other side.  

    The underlying reality is the Hive....... the implicate order, in which Chev is the top gun.  

    So, yes, Einstein was right and Bohr was wrong...... we could and would work our way into the implicate order....... and it is Bohm who began to unlock that door.  

    Basically, with the Princess, we can reconstruct the implicate order with the entanglement in the explicate order....... and that’s how we make portals.  


    1340........

    That’s all there is to it.

    Every atom has its quantum aperture.

    Every living cell is able to expand that aperture, with its dna 🧬 serving as the quantum antenna.  

    When you are dealing with an organism, the cellular antennas are self-synchronizing...... especially through a nervous system.  

    An antenna is also an actuator........ an actuator is an antenna.  

    A portal, by itself, is for low level.... terrestrial excursions.... such as to Brazil 🇧🇷.  

    However, when you put a pod together with a portal, you may go extra dimensional.  

    Essentially, you are able to pour your consciousness into the the pod, which acts as a ‘spacesuit’ for you consciousness, when you go...... hyper dimensional.  

    That’s where chev has been going........ and kev, to a lesser extent.  


    Ok, so far?  

    Now we come to the Eschaton and the immanentizing, thereof.  

    All we need is the born again portal (BAP).  

    We put the bap together with the pod and the portal.  

    With all three, we are in the process of immanentizing the Eschaton.  

    The combo package is bpp.  

    kev is christened...... chev is mormon...... chick 🐥 is bap.  

    This is the combo package 📦.  

    chev has wh access..... kev has international access....... and chick 🐥 has Princess 👸 access.  

    k&c both need the ba portal..... that’s my job..... then chev takes the package 📦 to the wh........ then donny takes the package 📦 to his deplorables, prior to November........ the rest is history...... dontcha know.  


    1440.........

    foot 🦶 is on board...... we have ample entanglement.  

    That’s about it.  Have we left anything out...... oh, I need to contact Greer and and chickencon.

    I’m also trying to contact greer and buddy, at foot 🦶’s suggestion.

    Is the gang all here, yet....?


    1930...........

    News flash from the Princess 👸....... Coco (Chicken Big) is joining us, permanently as a resident of Great Falls, where he has been grandfathered into the zoning ordinance...... the only rooster ever permitted, under the town ordinance.  Three neighbors testified as to how much they would have missed his cockadoodledo.  

    ....... back to our regularly scheduled programming...... in progress.....

    We figure that maybe eight countries have the twin pack....... pod + portal.  

    But only we have the three-pack.  

    Joe would be making the introduction in August...... to 1600 PA.  

    Donald would take it from there, if he is still in need of a little bump in the polls....... that’s one guess, anyway.  

    The eight countries are mostly cooperating (P8), but there may be some issues with China, in particular.  

    But we do need to get Joe back East, and he’s not quite ready to travel.  

    His pressure suit might have had a little leak.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:16 am

    Nothing is as it appears

    Everything is as it appears

    Now shut your eyes and imagine...

    Something smells

    Follow that smell

    🐐💨

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:55 pm

    Party time.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:45 pm

    "You're not gonna believe this."

    "Try me, I'm pretty gullible."

    -from It's a Mad Mad Mad World

    You can say no.

    Non-being isn't to be trifled with.

    It is like the strongest acid.

    How many have been engulfed by darkness?

    Makes me shudder thinking about those lives.

    You use it very sparingly and in precise application.

    It was my great fortune to be shipwrecked and cut off from my life.

    It happened at the best time.

    I know the power of knowing and how it heals you and your communities.

    One finds their groove, a poise.

    It isn't that u don't give a shit, you come to give a shit.

    You find what works and stop wasting time.

    Time brings healing and death.

    You get to feel and experience the whole thing.

    It is as you believe it to be.

    The stuff that dreams are made of.

    I have a natural fear of evil and death.

    You can do something about that.

    You can stand with it.

    But hey muppets, Nature offers us gifts.

    Take them when offered.

    Eat of the body of nature.

    Sure, you can see the future, you can bend time.

    The ancestors will whisper all sorts of things.

    Learning to listen is the way.

    Listen.

    You can tell a difference in the quality of the thoughts.

    I think those voices are always inside of us, just difficult to speak with directly.

    Where there is will, there is always a way.
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    Post by dan Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:52 am

    1500z.......

    Is this anyway to run a Disclosure..........
    Kevin is ready to support your role as interlocutor on this mission. This is NOT a disclosure mission.
    ?  This was from July 8.  

    Does this instruction from foot 🦶 make any sense..... I mean seriously 😐?  

    Was I supposed to run this rescue mission from behind the scenes?

    I have never, in life done anything from behind the scenes...... hey, I’m mr kiss 😘 and tell!  

    I don’t recall that chev has ever admitted to me directly that he has been on any excursions....... this is almost entirely coming from kev and foot 🦶.

    All I’ve heard directly from chev is that he has a rattling cage, which I have never seen....... I mean how many folks out there have rattling cages...... seriously 😐...... ?

    All of his alleged excursions have been performed using borrowed ‘equipment’.  Those excursions did not begin until 7/‘18, or six months after kev arrived on the scene.  

    In other words, chev is in serious denial about excursions and/or using borrowed ‘equipment’.  

    Now, I could understand that, in the context of an investor strategy, but, by all accounts, chev has not had any new investments for years.  

    He has only just been begging for money, mostly for incidentals.  

    His alleged work for the wh........ I gather that it is voluntary...... that’s more than a little hard to believe.  

    I’ve not heard from kev in almost 20 hours.  

    For all I know, foot 🦶 has rescinded on his above offer, due to my violation of the NDA.  Wonderful........

    This was from March.......
    Kevin .. Dan caused problems, but he was also key to success. Dan got you to Montana safely and Dan assisted with interrogation. There is no clear path to success without Dan.
    And chick 🐥 is just not a cloak and dagger 🗡 sort of guy.

    On the other hand 🖐, one could easily suggest that God is a cloak and dagger 🗡 sort of gal.  

    The God of Revelation is necessarily also the God of Concealment.  

    I don’t know about God, but chick 🐥 is just a one trick pony 🐴.

    Oh, wait just one minute....... I almost forgot...... I’m also supposed to be the thief in the middle of the night.  

    And, what am I stealing....?  I’m stealing everyone’s secrets.  

    And foot 🦶 is responsible to keep me on the shortest possible leash.  


    1600........

    So who is chev working for, when he’s not working for chick 🐥?  

    Let’s see...... chev was released from the hospital 🏥 on Monday.  

    He was ubered directly to kev’s motel 🏨.  

    Not much else happened.......

    On Tuesday, I had a lengthy conversation with kev.

    Wait...... I remember...... on Monday afternoon, there was a brouhaha with chev about getting his hospital prescription for Librium filled.

    I had wanted him to go cold turkey 🦃.

    But, after an hour of screaming, I relented.

    They got the Librium, and had a late dinner.

    But let’s back up further.......

    I think I took over kev’s lodging on the ninth.

    And then chev moved in on the 13th, I believe.

    It was on the twelfth that I had the talk with three.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:20 am

    God is a goat.

    Dan's team is always in some state of insanity.

    Good cover I guess, or it's such hard work that leads to personal breakdown.

    Personal breakdown is actually quite a good state to find.

    Maybe every mornin Foot wakes up and goes into his evil bat cave after kissing his Galactic princess.

    He calls the Chicken Warlord on the bat phone and they coordinate the days activity.

    Naaaaaaaaaaaa

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    Post by dan Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:26 pm

    1830z.........

    Princess 👸, Joe and I are in agreement about Alpha and Omega.  

    So I want to book 📖 a flight ✈ for Joe to BWI, this afternoon, on the provision that I will escort him directly to the front gate of the White House ...... the rest will be up to you and 🦶



    1940.........

    Princess will call me 🤙 back in a couple of hours.

    I will not buy Joe’s ticket 🎫 without approval from the Princess 👸.  

    kev and chick 🐥 declare chev to be cured and sane, and ready to have his meeting with mike.  


    0330.........

    chev wil not be traveling before Sunday.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:57 pm

    Seems like the bat phone has been busy...
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    Post by U Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:55 pm

    MY LOYAL/ROYAL FOOTMEN

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    Post by dan Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:07 am

    1510z.........

    Foot still insists that chev have a consultation with JHU/M, prior to his visiting the wh.  

    Increasingly, I suspect that this visit is intended mainly for external consumption.  

    The internals having been dealt with long ago.  

    That’s why the insistence on JHU...... it is a significant part of our institutional outreach, with regard to project IE....... immanentizing the Eschaton.  

    Even amongst our small group, I’m always asking myself....... who knew what, and when did they know it......

    Sam, like Debbie, definitely does not want to be roped into this...... ie business.

    They did not sign up for this.  It’s not their business.  

    Well, I’m sorry 😐, but it has been everyone’s business, since day one ☝.  

    Only now, is the alarm clock ⏰ sounding, for real 😳...... all the snooze 😴 options have been run out.  

    Ask not for whom the bell 🔔 tolls........

    If I have to, I will escort Joe into the hospital, myself.  

    There is concern, at home, that PF, if it actually exists, would likely be contagious 😷........ however, sports 🏀 fans 💗, that is exactly the point....... that is the way that PF was designed....... Wuhan 🦠 is just the cover.  


    1610..........

    In consultation with Sam, we believe that the best way forward is for me to make a personal visit to the Hopkins Homewood campus...... where I would start off with philosophy, and make my way around to psychology.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:54 am

    You cannot depth charge the unconscious.

    You will destroy yourself in your attempt to destroy what you fear.

    But we have an all out war under way with the unconscious or so we think.

    The war has spilled over to our social devolution also under way.

    The world watches Americans fight over masks.

    We have a massive mental breakdown under way.

    As much as some will claim, no one can stop this.

    All happening during a giant extinction event we caused.

    When Marie told them to eat cake, she lost her head.

    The damn things flying around like tic tacs should be some clue we have had a response.

    The unconscious can end you anytime it wants.

    It is you, right.

    You are it, right.

    I have watched and experienced a psychological 💣 go off.

    BOOM 🤯 💥

    We mine the depths ourselves to prevent contact.

    One has to bring in a professional or become an expert bomb defuser.

    How do we get out of this mess?

    Defusing one bomb at a time.

    I assure you, if you inquire with management, you will find bombs you have been assigned to.

    Get to work.
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    Post by 99 Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:39 pm

    There's going to be a new article coming up in the NYT about UFO crash retrievals sometime within the next week.

    Here's where I found out about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etkRC8xvnd4

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:21 pm

    Space Jesus da Disclosure Ninja!
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    Post by Foot Mann Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:53 pm

    Insanity itself is not contagious, but the drivers are connected with those who are insane. Join them at your own risk. No mask will help.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:40 pm

    We're all mad here!

    “[...]the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”

    ― Jack Kerouac, On the Road

    Apropos with us now being on the road and all.
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    Post by dan Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:00 am

    Good morning 🌞, sports 🏀 fans 💗 ,  

    I’m being admitted to the GBMC psychology emergency department.

    I’m presenting as thinking 🤔 I might be Jesus.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:09 am

    I do love the crazy ones most.

    It happens, been waiting for them to come get you.

    I hope you get da good drugs.

    While 🦶 has encouraged you, remember the smelly goat has always told you, you ain’t him Wink

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    Post by hobbit Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:56 am

    dan wrote:Good morning 🌞, sports 🏀 fans 💗 ,  

    I’m being admitted to the GBMC psychology emergency department.

    I’m presenting as thinking 🤔 I might be Jesus.  



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