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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

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The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:14 am

First topic message reminder :

I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop 🛑 the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......


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Post by BewilderedBird Sun May 31, 2020 4:00 pm

The best news in creation is there is no problem.

We know the truth, not the future.

Your heaven has never nor will ever exist.

I’ll take my chances living a real life with no problems.

When the world is ready, it will rid itself of these lies.

“The seed cannot know what is going to happen, the seed has never known the flower. And the seed cannot even believe that he has the potentiality to become a beautiful flower. Long is the journey, and it is always safer not to go on that journey because unknown is the path, nothing is guaranteed.

Nothing can be guaranteed. Thousand and one are the hazards of the journey, many are the pitfalls - and the seed is secure, hidden inside a hard core. But the seed tries, it makes an effort; it drops the hard shell which is its security, it starts moving. Immediately the fight starts: the struggle with the soil, with the stones, with the rocks. And the seed was very hard and the sprout will be very, very soft and dangers will be many.

There was no danger for the seed, the seed could have survived for millennia, but for the sprout many are the dangers. But the sprout starts towards the unknown, towards the sun, towards the source of light, not knowing where, not knowing why. Great is the cross to be carried, but a dream possesses the seed and the seed moves.

The same is the path for man. It is arduous.

Much courage will be needed.”

It does not matter what Dan says or what I say about anything else.

The seed knows when to sprout.

Don’t accept the lies.

If yuh are looking to the future for salvation, yuh are a liar and a fool.

Courage to you all.


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Post by dan Sun May 31, 2020 4:13 pm

I asked the Princess what she thought about the previous post by foot 🦶.  

She asked what I thought about it, and I said I had suspected there was something like that going on.  

That’s all.  

Apparently smelly does not appreciate our deja vu, small world.  

I’m sorry smelly, but it was the best I could do...... under the circumstances....... at the time.

The next time, I hope we can work it out...... closer to your expectations. Then we can say....... meets expectations.



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Post by BewilderedBird Sun May 31, 2020 4:17 pm

No explanations are needed.

I told you I was just teasin.

I was just shakin the tree to see what falls out.

I do that everywhere I go.

You guys aren’t special.

Anyone who has known me...has been shaken.

I shook you good and hard.

I found a very strange tree here indeed.

It is what it is.


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Post by dan Sun May 31, 2020 4:22 pm

smelly,

Just, please, agree that it was good enuf for gummint work.......

And, don’t worry, smelly, we can ditch that Heaven thingy........

Sometimes it just causes more trouble than it’s worth!


2100.......

And, hey, smelly,

How about that Wuhan thing a ma jiggy....... ?

I thought it was pretty cool, myself.

Maybe we’ll have to keep it...... in the final cut.



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Post by BewilderedBird Sun May 31, 2020 4:23 pm

I’ll only concede breathin is just fine by me and more than enough.
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Post by dan Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:05 am

1205z..........

For better or worse, I’m taking #341 to be a watershed, right here in our tiny OMF/BPW arena.  

Yes, I intend to make a federal case out of 341....... and it won’t stop 🛑 there........

No, sir........

Is the core story a mountain 🏔 or a mole hill?  

Chick 🐥 is taking 341 to the cosmic mountain 🌌.......

...... the bj3guys story.  

In other words, 341 just punctuates that this is the Story to end all stories.  

In other words, if 341 is not Disclosure, I’d like to know what is.

But where is the megaphone 📣....... where is the bully pulpit?

Well, sports 🏀 fans 💗, if you can’t move Mohammed to the mountain 🏔, you’ll just have to move the mountain 🏔 to Mohammed.  

The bj3guys story is the Monadnock story.......

Well....... it’s Pikes Peak or bust...... it’s us or rust!


1330........

Every story has to have a beginning, middle and end.  

There has to be a plot line.......

The Meta story is no exception....... make room for the bj3guys story..... the Core story of the Meta story.  

Every story...... every search for truth has to have a smoking 🚬 gun.  

The meta story is no exception.  

The chick 🐥 declares #341 to be the cosmic smoking 🚬 gun.  

If you don’t like it, you are welcome to come up with a better smoking 🚬 gun.  

In the meantime, the effort, here, in the BPW section of OMF, will be directed to verifying that we have the best possible smoking 🚬 gun for the Disclosure of the Core/Meta Story.  

Any questions?  

If not, we shall proceed........

So if Chivo 🐐, or anyone else, would like to know what is happening here, now, this is what is happening here, now........

....... the verification of the Story to end all stories.  


1430........

Now, take a good look 👀 at chick 🐥.......

Does chick 🐥 look like your village verificationist?

The answer is no!

So, with the Story to end all stories hanging in the balance, verificationism becomes our action item.  

My only point is that verification is the ground zero, now, between objectivity and subjectivity.  

chick 🐥 is not your village verificationist, but.......

...... right after post #341, chick 🐥 becomes our smoking 🚬 gun.  

Just so we can all start on the same page....... here it is..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verificationism ...
The 1951 article "Two Dogmas of Empiricism", by Willard Van Orman Quine, attacked the analytic/synthetic division and apparently rendered the verificationist program untenable.
Ok, so here is the updated version of the verificationist program.......

This is chick 🐥’s Truth and verification program......

...... know the chick 🐥 by the fruit 🍎 it bears.  

Yes, we are about to finish WVQ’s attack on the analytic/synthetic distinction.  

Thomas Kuhn's landmark book of 1962, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions—which identified paradigms of science overturned by revolutionary science within fundamental physics—critically destabilized confidence in scientific foundationalism...

bj3guys ..... the stone that was rejected has become the cornerstone of both Heaven and Earth.  

Like chick 🐥 said...... we’re gonna make a cosmic case out of this sucker......  out of #341.  

Yes...... this will be the Portal to end all portals...... and mind the entanglement, sports 🏀 fans 💗.

All you have to know, in order to get through the Portal, is what is at stake........ Everything is at stake...... get over it..... get used to it.  

See, you’ll never be able to verify a fact....... the cat 🐈 is on the mat..... so sorry about that.

There is only one thing you’ll ever be able to verify.......

..... the cosmic Truth = the Big Love....... thanks buddy!



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Post by BewilderedBird Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:43 am

I personally have no interest or comment on the portal stuff or the princess or core stories.

I have absolutely nothing to say about what is happening or the future.

I suspect the world will ignore whatever happens unless it's right in their face.

Funny, more so now than when I came to OMF, I have absolutely no resonance with Dan's words.

The world has lost its mind which is probably the best thing.

Have fun Dan and crew.
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"The world has lost it's mind"

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Post by GSB Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:22 pm

The BLUE JAY 3-GUYS (with big eyes) story is a tale of biological extraterrestrial contact allegedly heard from senior officials including late CIA Director Richard Helms. The designation "Core Story" suggests this was passed verbally (no paper trail) in a SCIF (a US Government CORE SECRET per leaked NSA document is a level beyond black budget compartmentalized information typically labeled TOP SECRET and is shared, perhaps on verbal basis only by short list of senior government officials).

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_Compartmented_Information_Facility )

Or to quote Kit regarding Skinwalker Ranch, "Believe it."


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Post by dan Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:33 pm

Gary,

Whatever the Core story may have been, I’m the only one making a cosmic case out of it.  

As the only one going forward with this story, I feel perfectly entitled to speculate about it...... along with the best.

I’m not aware of any competition, in this regard.


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Post by GSB Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:37 pm

Do you want to believe?



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Post by dan Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:23 pm

Gary,

The Skinwalker operation and Joe’s operation are closely associated, in my mind.  

The other operation that may still be current is TTSA.  

Like all other operations that are still ongoing, they are in receive mode.  They are attempting to establish contact with the phenomenon.  

This is where R,A&D are way ahead of the curve....... we claim to be the phenomenon........ nay, we claim to be the core of the phenomenon.  We have no competition, in this regard.  

So, please, Gary, while you are on here, please act as if you were aware of what we are up to.  

That Skinwalker video was of some interest, just to keep track of where the ‘competition’ is.  It would be very helpful for you to append notes 📝 as to how you think these items may relate to our initiative.  Such notes would particularly be addressed to the uninitiated.  

Thank you........


As far as representing the R,A&D initiative, I only have two irons in the fire 🔥....... this one, here, at the BPW/OMF forum, and my sporadic attempts at the endless phone/zoom call.

I have yet to hear back from Ghost...... after he expressed interest in doing another zoom, last week.

The only others actively interested are Buddy and Brian.  Buddy is also know to Ghost who is in Britain.  

Just these four of us would be enough to get started, as far as I’m concerned.  



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Post by dan Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:37 am

Thank you, U,

But you may go back to your corner, now.......
............


I’m guessing that the smoking 🚬 gun is both ahead of and behind the times......  but good try.  

Folks are not gonna wade through vegas to get to a dry bone 🦴.  It might as well have been a private message...... not that it wouldn’t have been mentioned..... in some fashion.  I do maintain a transparent shop.  

I continue with Whitley S.  He also makes note of the potential for fear.  Unfortunately, he is unable to stop flip flopping between the ETH and the IDH/UTH.   It makes for some muddled metaphysics.  

Certainly Whitley is a walking portal.  There but by the grace of God....... I have my hands full with my goddaughter.



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Post by Foot Mann Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:07 pm

Many stories but only one is true, and that has not been told. The Chicken has risen with wings anew. Soon he will be ready to fly. Time for those only interested in entertainment to fall aside, so the Chicken can speak the truth.
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Post by dan Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:35 pm

1835z........

foot,

Aside from a distraction or two, I’m not aware that anyone is preventing me from telling what little I know or have been told.


1930.........

By definition....... what I have been told is only what I can remember, and I can only remember the Truth...... everything else gets eroded away.  

It’s like the apocryphal statue carver....... he just whittles away everything that is not in the likeness of the person.  


Another confab with Mr T........

He claims that history will keep being repeated, until we get it right.

He has no idea how long this incremental process is going to last.  

In other words, he has no clue about Utsoro Bune....... which I have trouble believing, since he was the one to explain it to foot 🦶.  

In other words, Mr T gets paid to act stupid, all for the benefit of the chick 🐥. Thanks a bunch......



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Post by hobbit Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:55 am

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/environment/mass-extinctions-are-accelerating-scientists-report/ar-BB14TiQi?MSCC=1591184842&ocid=spartandhp

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And if You are witnessing anger and strife, it may be the great attractor calling you home?

Back to saggy, galatic centre.






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Post by dan Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:19 am

1320z.........

Going Viral, or Not, in the Milky Way...... Is the pandemic a rehearsal for our own cosmic mortality?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/02/science/coronavirus-space-travel-colonization.html
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There used to be the divine right of kings.  

Such a notion still accrues to some religious leaders....... but, until quite recently, that notion was being beaten back by the rise of democracy.  

No longer.  

In this context, the upcoming election in the US is likely to be a harbinger.  

At least since leaving school, in the early ‘80s, foot has identified himself as a political partisan...... particularly with Reagan and Trump.

I have made a point of attempting to balance this partisanship..... and not just for a strategic purpose, but also out of conviction...... a conviction borne of my identification with the jguy...... with whom I see donny posing as the antithesis.  

Partisanship becomes particularly fraught in an eschatological context..... but this is the only context in which I have ever known foot 🦶.  


1430.........

In this eschatological context, the partisan divide is likely to be defined by personalism.

Personalism tends to fall on the side of democracy and volunteerism.

In an eschatological context, volunteerism is particularly associated with the issue of fertility control.  

Why fertility?
.........


foot calls for the first time in months..........

foot is claiming to be nonpartisan...... ie. he claims to have been a supporter of Obama...... who also was his boss.  

I pointed out his associations with Hickson, Pillsbury and Marshall. These three were on the conservative side of the Republican Party, and associated with the military...... not necessarily hawks, but certainly not doves.  

The hottest issue, in this regard, is fertility v population control.  

foot is a staunch proponent of Right to Life...... which is to say..... fetal life...... outside the womb, however, you are on your own, baby.  

Besides cosmology, this is the one issue that foot refuses to discuss.  

That is an interesting juxtaposition....... cosmology and fetuses..... visually, I think of 2001 with Kubrick.  

We have noted foot’s partiality towards bioweapons, for instance.  

Like T/tuna, foot sees an impending, very major, die-back, with some new and more hopeful civilization arising from the ashes.  

This is precisely where cosmology comes in.  

As I commenced to broach cosmology, foot simply hands up.  

I get a little bit further with T, but not much.  Both acknowledge a fair degree of political simpatico, in these regards.    

What I get out of T is the notion of eternal return.  

T occasionally claims to be an xian.  When I point out the incompatibility of the Eternal Return and the Gospel, he becomes defensive.  

Eternal Return emphasizes the cyclical decay of the world from its initial pristine state..... a Golden Age.  

You know the drill...... gold, silver, bronze and iron ages.  


1600.......

Most pessimists, even the most extreme, stay away from extinction, and cling to the cyclical view.  

Why is actual extinction considered to be so much beyond the pale, as compared with a ‘mere’ Extinction Level Event, for instance?

Total extinction raises ontological issues not raised by a mere die-back.  

There is one thing that conservatives hate to discuss worse than die-backs...... this is philosophy.  

Both liberals and conservatives cannot imagine a world without progress....... it’s just social progress vs material progress.  

The notion of mere sustainability, for instance, advocated by the Greens, is anathema with both liberals and conservatives..... categorize it with Utopianism.  

Our present historical juncture is heavy with Apocalypticism..... on all sides.  

Princess points out that this would be an auspicious occasion for someone to align the stars.......

I say....... how about it, Princess?!

Actually, I wouldn’t have thought of it this way, but then I’m not a princess.    


1800........

Poor Whitley, just can’t get beyond the Communion paradigm.

What he can’t imagine is the Reunion paradigm.

Although much of his latest book is a discussion of the soul issue, he is unable to look beyond the soul to the notion of personhood.

It’s a very small step, personally, but a mighty leap, cosmologically.



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Post by hobbit Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:56 pm

In the last hour We have had a minor alignment with Venus between earth and the sun.

I followed the consequences with My dowsing .

TT Brown built His gravitors and could track the same and the planets from deep within the earth, and had them sited all around the earth in shielded deep places.

They all reacted at once, no time span, instant.

He talked Your language Dan with neutrinos etc.

I know it is consciousness, sorry if that sounds arrogant from an uneducated hobbit.

There was never any big bang, there are no black holes , there is no such force termed as gravity, the apple should have hit newton a lot harder and knocked some sense into Him.

Then it is about scale, and a repetitive cyclic system that is akin to the tides, as consciousness field interactions create the tides....AT ALL SCALE

The so called black holes are reversal zones where the spiral vortexes of consciousness reverse and spin out in the opposite direction.

All life depends on those flows of consciousness and the information they contain, and in the cyclic travel of those flows is what creates the constant changes here on the Earth

You don't need to be educated to see the constant changes when You look at rock faces with their layer upon layer of changed deposits, to see the seashells in mountain top rocks.

Nature Herself will clear the decks whenever the information spinning about galaxy alters, and the stars aligning will be part of that system as they impart resistances to the flows duality of spin ratios.

This planet is not spinning and creating the magnetic field, it is responding to the field of consciousness that it is displacing within and which creates the fields, it is not mass creating the mythical so called gravity, it is the ratio of implosion over outrush of consciousness present that each and every planet/moons/stars are within and is variable to those ratios, thus We could be crushed to pancakes, or float away relative to those ratios altering.

That is how The so called flying saucers operate by locally varying and directing the flow about them to displace in time, they are not flying they are time machines, as are We and all life forms in very small amounts, We are switching within this planets time field of consciousness, but with enough independent consciousness field to displace fractional within that, we call it moving, it is displacement in time.

I am not here wasting My limited time Dan, I am as You are building the knowledge of a very different comprehension of universe, in My strange hobbit sense manner, not in Your highly educated manner.

FOR THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGIN.







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Post by dan Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:11 pm

LAST WARNING to hobbit,

You will no longer be allowed to post in the BPW section, if you cannot include explicit reference to personalism and the small world........

This is your last warning........
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Post by hobbit Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:31 pm

dan wrote:LAST WARNING to hobbit,

You will no longer be allowed to post in the BPW section, if you cannot include explicit reference to personalism and the small world........

This is your last warning........

Is god not a person?

Perhaps I am describing god?

that every star/planet/moons are part of that god.

That I, You and each person is that god.

Is it not allowed here in OMF to discuss such?

That each person is a portion of the whole, is that not what I am trying to convey?

If in this forum it is just your way or the highway, I will ramble on along the highway.

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Post by dan Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:54 pm

hobbit,

What you describe is pantheism, not personalism.

Folks who post on this thread are welcome to dispute personalism, but not to ignore it.

I have enjoyed some of our exchanges, but I think it is time that we both move on....... like two ships, passing in the night........


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Post by BewilderedBird Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:09 pm

Dan's lack of loyalty to the OMF crew is disappointing.

He lives for Ron and the Princess it appears, two non-persons as far as I can tell.

He isn't a very virtuous muppet, he has NOT done his WORK.

A muppet with no room for other persons.

He has chosen...poorly.

Only the penitent muppet will pass.

This more than anything is why I will no longer dialogue with his CLOSED mind.

Ironic, huh Wink

He's just a mean silly ole man really.
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Post by dan Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:26 pm

Chivo/Eric,

Personalism militates against any sort of ad hominem arguments.  

Personalism does not imply that there be personality cults.

In fact, personalism is an argument against the significance of mere personality.

Personalism is a statement about personhood, not about individuals.

Personhood is what we all have in common.

Personality is what distinguishes us from each other.

Now, it has been argued that Christianity is a personality cult.



(cont........)

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