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Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:14 am

First topic message reminder :

I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop 🛑 the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......


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Post by U Fri May 15, 2020 12:05 am

This might be my overinflated sense of self importance but I feel like that "dragon" dude from the skinwalker show being there is just you guys making fun of me!

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I know Fugal's ya boi!

Really funny y'all!
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Post by hobbit Fri May 15, 2020 3:52 am

El Chivo wrote:I give you a lot of credit Dan for trying.

Yes, the pluralists do try to force their confusion on us.

I nod and grin, they know not what they are missing.

They are children.

They do not know good and evil.

They would settle for anxiety and control.

One must invest in oneself and teach oneself.

One can only free oneself.

Oneness will challenge you.

This is the most fun part, to be at play in the mind of God, of Nature, our Nature, with nothing between u.

Who knows that but the One?!

We are invited to participate.

Drink this deeply, why would you not set yourself free?

Why would anyone ever settle for anyone else's word.

Because we don't mostly know any better.

I am not, nor are you confused Dan.

You are a credit to the race.

I think you are a fine gentlemen.

Though I dance and twitter around you, it is because of your quality.

I am brutal with those i love most.

I have a sick sense of humor.

I understood this is also God's mind here.

You need nothing from me and I need nothing from you, but here we are, all together.


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Post by dan Fri May 15, 2020 4:05 am

1005.......

Skinwalker has played a central role in the Aviary history.  

It’s right up there with the core story.  

It’s right up there with Roswell, etc.......

And, yes, that was not a bad posting of Chivo’s....... we’re are all just playing hide and seek..... in the mind of God.  

And that brings us to my favorite topic........ the one and the many.....

Parmenides said it all....... no one can truly say that something is not, therefore everything just is.  This ‘is’ is just the cosmic Being..... the One.  

After all, there is just the shining Presence and the illuminating Absence.  

What more can be said?

This is closely related to the problem of Now...... how many Nows are there?  There is either an infinity or just one, depending on your point of view.  

How many points of view are there? ....... I mean.... come on..... really!  

You get the point!  

Everything else is just to play games with ourselves...... to find Ourself.  

Finding Ourself is Disclosure...... we have met the Aliens alien, and they are Us.  

Disclosure lies with the Princess 👸.  She plays hard to get.

The Truth plays hard to get...... until it isn’t.

Disclosure can be pretty scary...... until it isn’t.  

Creation is just God’s way of keeping everything from being here, now....... until it is!

One of us is going to be donny’s worst fear.  

And the Princess is mine...... she is my goddaughter.  


1130.......

All problems are problems of identity, and all identity is stolen..... from the gods.  

And here we thought it was Prometheus who was the thief.  


1340.......

We might as well say that all problems are just problems of semantics.....  by virtue of definition.  

Is the virus 🦠 just a problem of semantics?  

Are sickness and death just semantic problems?  There are those who believe this to be the case....... Chivo might be amongst them.  

So might I, when in ‘nominal’ health.  


1620.......

Understandably, the analytical philosophers have analyzed the problem of the one and the many into many...... problems.  

This problem is the launching pad for every other problem.  


The Buddhists are the only ones who have seriously questioned Being.



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Post by BewilderedBird Fri May 15, 2020 12:41 pm

BEAR IN MIND THAT THE MEASURE OF A MAN IS THE WORTH OF THE THINGS HE CARES ABOUT.

I am glad I got out of the psychedelics.

That was fairyland.

I think if ones journey, whatever it may be, doesn’t end in your taking responsibility is a delusion and lie.

You are only fooling yourself blaming it all on others and fate.

Do better than me.

Let me hear you do better than Marcus and smelly.

Now that would be something.

Do you accept it all and take responsibility for yourself and walk the talk.

Show me better than that.

Go ahead and tell me about your gods and I will poop on them.

I will slap them with my smelly tail.

Go ahead, tell Marcus and me anout your lights and theories of other worlds.

We will laugh Bahahahahahaha and make loony signs at you.

Tell us about a your silly conspiracy theories while Marcus and I bear the weight of the world on our backs.

Because it needs us to support it.

Go ahead show me your quality.

What is your life philosophy, your code.

What have you done?

Are you a mess, suck it up.

Get your house in order.

Show me your gold.

I dare you.

Until one does, I do not know they are human beings and assume they are some form of animal, swine, muppets, easy to ignore and fun to torture when they try to sound human.

We know the difference.
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Post by BewilderedBird Fri May 15, 2020 1:07 pm

My aunt died a couple days ago, cancer and corona. I was reading family messages on FB hobbit and I saw your response. Very good, ha. You made the ole goat leak water 💦 from his weird goat eyes. It is funny that emotions evolved to express themselves like that.

Crying is like love, an overwhelmed emotional state. The mind looks on surprised. The mind does not understand tears. It stands emotionless, witness.

Anyway, touché hairy footed friend.

Catch the Big Fish.
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Post by dan Fri May 15, 2020 1:18 pm

1920.......

Chivo,

Clearly, the Stoics were proto-Christian to a remarkable degree.
.........

And would it not be appropriate to cross post hobbit’s message?  
............

It is very likely that the jguy ‘plagiarized’ from Zeno.  

Does that mean that we should drop everything and run home to Marcus?  

Hmmm....... not quite, Kimosabe.  

Marcus was not quite playing with a full deck.  

Marcus was missing the Tower card.  

Of course he was...... that card was being held in reserve.  

That card was only going to be played once.  

And it was.  

The three musketeers were just the inevitable cleanup crew.  

Poor Marcus.  

But now we must get back to emptiness.......

You understand that even if the Princess is fake, she could very easily be transformed...... like falling off a log.  

This would be in complete conformity with the doctrine of emptiness.  


2010..........

You just need to understand that emptiness is hyper personal.  

The emptiness has to do with the ground of Being......

Aka....... cosmic potency.  

Will the watched pot never boil?  

Never say never.  

I’ll bet you didn’t know that, in zen, Sunyata is just the Great Prana.

The deep source, transparent down to the bottom, can radiantly shine and can respond unencumbered to each speck of dust [each object] without becoming its partner. The subtlety of seeing and hearing transcends mere colors and sounds. The whole affair functions without leaving traces and mirrors without obscurations. Very naturally, mind and Dharmas emerge and harmonize."
Hmmm....... we don’t say...... the emergence of the I Am...... chick 🐥’ll bet you a dollar 💵 to a doughnut 🍩.  

It only gets better....... chick 🐥 surely feels sorry for old smelly......
In Tiantai metaphysics, every event, function, or characteristic is the product of the interfusion of all others, the whole is in the particular and every particular event/function is also in every other particular. This also leads to the conclusion that all phenomena are "findable" in each and every other phenomena, even seemingly conflicting phenomena such as good and evil, or delusion and enlightenment are interfused with each other.
 
Clearly, this is the best possible emptiness.......
The 14th Dalai Lama, who generally speaks from the Gelug perspective, states:
According to the theory of emptiness, any belief in an objective reality grounded in the assumption of intrinsic, independent existence is simply untenable.
All things and events, whether 'material', mental or even abstract concepts like time, are devoid of objective, independent existence ... [T]hings and events are 'empty' in that they can never possess any immutable essence, intrinsic reality or absolute 'being' that affords independence.

Will the Eschaton be empty?  

No...... it will simply be evacuative.  

This view states that ultimate reality is empty of the conventional, but it is itself not empty of being ultimate Buddhahood and the luminous nature of mind.[98] Dolpopa considered his view a form of Mādhyamaka, and called his system "Great Mādhyamaka".[99] In Jonang, this ultimate reality is a "ground or substratum" which is "uncreated and indestructible, noncomposite and beyond the chain of dependent origination."


In this view, the intention of the teaching of Buddha nature is soteriological rather than theoretical. According to others, the potential of salvation depends on the ontological reality of a salvific, abiding core reality — the Buddha-nature, empty of all mutability and error, fully present within all beings.

If he knows the five aggregates as like an illusion, But makes not illusion one thing, and the aggregates another; If, freed from the notion of multiple things, he courses in peace— Then that is his practice of wisdom, the highest perfection.
It was almost seen that, ultimately, there exists only the observer and her observations.

The ground had been prepared for the jguy.



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Post by BewilderedBird Sat May 16, 2020 11:01 am

Every good person has a little bad

Every bad person has a little good

No one is totally one or the other

Is there more than good and evil

That is the domain of the gods
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Post by hobbit Sat May 16, 2020 11:31 am

"Good and evil"

What if?
there needs to be balance , as the Egyptians showed with the weighing of the heart?

What if ?

As I detect, there is a duality of flows that layer around the planet, and both implode and outrush in opposite spiral vortices.

What if?

The percentage of these has consequences on the mental state of living entities leading to an inbalance in good or evil.

The flows I detect spiral into the Earth, and spiral out into the heavens.


The Egyptians showed this as a journey into layers upon death

Look how they focus upon the hands, they were dowsers supreme.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-ancient-traditions/through-twelve-chambers-hell-afterlife-ancient-egypt-008228




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Post by BewilderedBird Sat May 16, 2020 12:59 pm

One only has to look to the poor Ovid to know when enough is enough.

This guy was the darling of the elites.

A very charming naughty goat.

A tolerated rebel.

Until while exiled for writing naughty things, he wrote of his neighbor barbarians living in animal skins.

He begged for forgiveness.

Wow, he could have done his best writing in those exile years but he was only a pretty boy who couldn’t stop begging to get back into the party.

We just repeat the same stories, lived on different stages.

Life was hard and a lot of romans felt what makes life worth living is sex, wine and the baths.

After work across the empire, people headed to the baths.

Such a strange time that was, would be amazing to be able to see it.

The stoics had an answer to hedonism.

The best life is found in between I have found.

Ovid died in exile, contrite and broken.

Augustus broke him.

One can go too far and raise Zeus’ anger.

Old smelly goats 🐐 learn to take it easy once they get all that rebellion out of their system.

The hellion knows true freedom, merging with the animal.

Animals have greater sentience than us, where we are sapient.

Chaos is backward and truly the losing of one’s mind.

I never totally let go.

I held onto my reason or it held onto me.

And it has shown me the way through the mountain pass.

My ally.

My guide.

My faithful counselor.

I know how valuable it is after walking the edge of insanity.

And I cling to it now, not a hope, but all I got.  

No one walks this road, or sails this boat, or flies in the sky,  but you.

The scale, in balance, doesn’t move.

We don’t need a universe of daimon hells or a universe of heavenly clouds, just this.

It is like so obvious, this is what we got.

Aren’t each of us a connected world in the web of being.

We play games so we don’t destroy it all.

We appear here to scratch that itch.

Not good enough to get into the lowest rung of heaven.

Not bad enough to get past the first gate of hell.

At the edges, great power swirls.

In the center, not much is needed.
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Post by GSB Sat May 16, 2020 2:36 pm

Cuckoo for Kaku ;-)



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Post by GSB Sun May 17, 2020 5:47 am

Dear Roger: Some of us can perceive the multiple worlds, the rest of you are myopic! ;-)

Roger's collapse theory is in principle testable, but many worlds is also potentially testable on a cosmic scale if we find a bruise in the sky from impact with another universe ... meanwhile ...

Frank Tipler:

But a central question has heretofore been ignored, namely, how rapidly do the laws of physics permit individual photons to add up and yield the final pattern? This is a question which standard quantum mechanics cannot answer, but I shall show that Many-Worlds quantum theory can.

This greater scope of Many-Worlds theory allows a direct test of Many-Worlds quantum mechanics, and shows not only that the Many-Worlds idea is testable — an issue debated in an issue of Nature last summer [4], [5] on the idea — but also that it is an essential idea for use in many areas of biology, physics, and engineering.



Testing Many-Worlds Quantum Theory By Measuring Pattern Convergence Rates

Authors: Frank J. Tipler

Abstract: The Born Interpretation of the wave function gives only the relative frequencies as the number of observations approaches infinity. Using the Many-Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics, specifically the fact that there must exist other versions of ourselves in the multiverse, I show that the observed frequencies should approach the Born frequencies as 1/N, where N is the number of observations. In the body of the paper I state this convergence rate precisely as AN EASILY TESTABLE FORMULA. We can therefore test the central claim of the MWI by measuring the convergence rate to the final Born frequency. Conversely, the MWI allows us to calculate this convergence rate.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/0809.4422.pdf


Nonlocality as Evidence for a Multiverse Cosmology

Authors: Frank J. Tipler

Abstract: I show that observations of quantum nonlocality can be interpreted as purely local phenomena, provided one assumes that the cosmos is a multiverse. Conversely, the observation of quantum nonlocality can be interpreted as observation evidence for a multiverse cosmology, just as observation of the setting of the Sun can be interpreted as evidence for the Earth's rotation.
Submitted 16 August, 2010; originally announced August 2010.

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Post by dan Sun May 17, 2020 7:13 am

1313........

Gary and Chivo,

Roger and Michio are pointing out that multiversism and multidimensionalism are closely related, and may just be two aspects of immaterialism.  

The same goes for informationalism.  

The small world, however, is a whole other proposition....... even theologians are not prepared to take that step...... everyone senses that it will be our last step.  

There is another world of academia...... its dark web..... where the dirty linen gets hung out.  This was the case for the Anthropic principle, back in the sixties, and it was Jack Sarfatti who broke the silence with his ‘comic’ book.

Today, we can be sure that the small world is hung out, in the back corridors of academe.  This world overlaps with the world of the Jasons and phenomenology, etc...... where curiosity goes to hide.  

The grey lady’s third rendition of the tic tacs is like Menzel’s bent stick in the water....... loose lips sink ships..... and you don’t want to look a gift horse in the mouth...... and if you want to know who’s thumb is in the dike...... you don’t have to look far.

It is a small world, after all.  

Does the US own the small world...... only by default.  

Does foot own phenomenology....... only by default.  

Does the princess own foot...... only be default.


1400......

And then there is tribalism at the top....... there is the seed of abraham..... clearly an eschatological gambit of cosmic proportions.  

It is one way that the GIC keeps its ear to the third rail.  foot is the other way..... rogue agent..... contrarian that he is......

We’re all on a need to know basis........ even, especially, foot..... only one tweet away...... the walls have ears.  3.5 may know that better than too.  There is a clear channel, but it can only be used in emergencies..... when we need to phone home.  


Meanwhile, does sunyata = brahman?  


1500.......

(I’m watching Bernstein’s Mass...... interesting 🧐.......)

Sunyata is simply the via negativa of Brahman.


1600.......

The manifestation of nothingness is closely associated with the contemplation of emptiness, and with human attempts to identify and personify it. As such, the concept of the Void, and ideas similar to it, have a significant and historically evolving presence[2] in artistic[3] and creative expression, as well as in academic, scientific and philosophical debate surrounding the nature of the human condition.
...... speaking of portals.....
In this sense, knowledge or experience of the Void could be said to actually be unknowing, given its inherent ineffability. In Western mystical traditions, it was often argued that the transcendent 'Ground of Being' could therefore be approached through aphairesis, a form of negation.


1730........

The underlying message of this work suggests that the way to know God is to abandon consideration of God's particular activities and attributes, and be courageous enough to surrender one's mind and ego to the realm of "unknowing", at which point one may begin to glimpse the nature of God.
Poor Chivo...... he doesn’t know how to use google.  
And come forth from the cloud of unknowing
And kiss the cheek of the moon
The New Jerusalem glowing
Why tarry all night in the ruin
And leave no word of discomfort
And leave no observer to mourn
But climb on your tears and be silent
Like a rose on its ladder of thorns
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Apropos of a related topic.......
Looking back...... you were trying to tell me this, but, as usual, the 🐥 was too dense..... too busy talking.....
The fresh ones just don't compare. We only had 2.5

3.5 doesn't know what the 3 musketeers are
Is it possible to imagine how dense is the chick 🐥?

This is all in reference to the walls having ears.  

On some level we all understand what is happening, even El Chivo..... even the donny........ the tweeter in chief.  

You do understand that chick 🐥 is in, way over his little pin head.  

If you don’t understand vegas, you won’t understand two and a half.  
Hogsmeade station[1] is a “tiny, dark platform” where the Hogwarts Express ends its journey north from Platform Nine-And-Three-Quarters.


1830........

Now I understand
What you tried to say to me
How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free.
They would not listen
They did not know how
Perhaps they'll listen now.



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Post by BewilderedBird Sun May 17, 2020 1:16 pm

My view these days is a very pragmatic one.

Whatever works now is best.

Don’t be bound by the past, use it, but do your thang.

Many worlds is reductio ad absurdum.

But if something helps someone stay balanced, let them have it.

If they are off balance, let them fall, push if you like.

Offer a hand to them on their way back up or don’t.

No need to argue about anything.

All is love.

We love it.

Nothing more to know or say about it.


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Post by dan Sun May 17, 2020 4:09 pm

Of course, El Chivo, is exactly right.  

There is a point of contention........

Neither one of us believes in the future........ but for seemingly contrary reasons.


0100.......

Eric,

Please don’t make threats, here...... no matter how innocuously couched.

This is the one thing we don’t allow.



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Post by BewilderedBird Sun May 17, 2020 5:53 pm

Well, this is very simple for me.

Make the best choices here.

We make the future, we do not know it.

One can guess, but that’s a distracted strategy.

One has to give it all here, not with an eye elsewhere.

One knows this when the cosmos teaches them this.

It does that.

I tend to pay attention when it does that.
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Post by BewilderedBird Sun May 17, 2020 6:02 pm

I suppose you and I could do no better than Socrates or Plato, we have ended in an aporia.

It must end in paradox around the absent.

It can never be penetrated.

So what good is it for our lives?

Not much in my view.

What good is Jesus?

Not much.

For it is not what he did, but what we must each do ourselves.

Our being is finite and we should act thusly.

Anything else is a dream, but as I said, let them have their dreams of the Absolute if it brings them comfort.

If you harm one more hair on their muppet heads, I’ll end this charade post haste.
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Post by hobbit Mon May 18, 2020 7:46 am

https://www.disclose.tv/a-parallel-universe-where-time-runs-backwards-has-been-detected-by-nasa-scientists-401074

Here You are dan,You can go back in time and see if the jguy was real.

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Post by U Mon May 18, 2020 8:00 am

SPOOKY!
LIZZIE!
LIZZIE!
LIZZIE!
HAIR LIKE FIRE!



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Post by dan Mon May 18, 2020 2:22 pm

It’s important to keep in mind that, with sunyata, the personalism is implicit, and strongly so, I might add.  This is to be seen in the coincidence between Brahman and Buddha nature.  

In the ground of being there is potency.  Is it just an impersonal vitalism?

I will allow myself to speculate that the teleology of nature is grounded in the cosmic Telos.

Vitalism is the logical filler between the two...... part of the Logos.  

The ground of being necessarily contains the seed of the Telos....... the Logos Spermatikos.  

This is how the universal mystic is able to relate to the ‘Void’.  

The Alpha necessarily contains the Omega....... one may even identify them, ultimately.  

I would like to point out that ‘transpersonal’ psychology is an oxymoron...... certainly for the personalist.  At best, it is a term that is meant to draw a contrast between Jung and Freud.    

Heidegger’s Being and Nothingness covers some of this territory, as near as I can make out.  

Perhaps, now, I can readdress chivo’s ‘caution’ to the chick........

He understands that there are cross currents here that are ‘impersonal’....... that can easily pull one under.  Is chick 🐥 able to ‘keep his head’....... to remain oriented?  That is certainly the goal, but it is by no means guaranteed.  I’m doubtful that this is solely chivo’s responsibility.  

Monism is no one’s walk in the park.  


2100........

Clearly, the modernists have attempted to keep the Eastern and Western traditions separate....... as in, divide and conquer.  However, they both observe the same glass of water.   The two perspectives afford us a clearer view of the tacit dimension...... of the noumenon.  


2230.......

East and West both overlook the possibility of the BPW.

The chick 🐥 falls right into that no-man’s land...... almost as if by accident.



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A map to help find the BPW among the stars (and persons) ...



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Post by dan Tue May 19, 2020 7:14 am

Thank you, Gary,

BryanI sent me the same video, yesterday.  

Yes, people are looking for the exits...... looking for the portals.  

They’re looking for portals in all the wrong places.  

The birth canal is more like a Princess portal than is anything that science and technology have to offer.  

Just take a snooze mcgooze and you’ll be in the land of Nod, a much much more practical parallel world than anything that science and technology have to offer.  

Just keep in mind the following.......
Now I lay me down to sleep. I pray the Lord my soul to keep. If I should die before I wake, I pray to God my soul to take. If I should live for other days I pray the Lord to guide my ways.

I went into physics my senior year in high school, looking for the free energy we would need to underwrite our continued material expansion.  

It wasn’t there...... not even a hint of it.  

After wandering the back roads for ten years, I stumbled onto Jack Sarfatti’s Space, Time & Beyond.  It got me thinking....... mainly just about the Anthropic Principle, at first......

Clearly, the AP was pointing to a Design, of some sort.  

It took me another five years to realize that we had to go completely beyond physics...... beyond space & time...... to metaphysics.  

And then it took another ten years for me to make the 911 call......

The rest is history......



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Post by BewilderedBird Tue May 19, 2020 9:06 am

GSB wrote:A map to help find the BPW among the stars (and persons) ...


Wrong map.

Funny, Gary always posts others ideas.

A true muppet.

One wonders if he knows how absofucking great life is?

You wouldn’t know by what he puts into the world.

This is your life.

Right here.

Supported by a multiverse if you like, but look around...

This is your best life.

Prove it’s not.

Confusion abounds.

What do you cultivate in your garden Gary?
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What do you cultivate in your garden Gary?

Many interpretations ...

JOHN 14:2

KJ21 In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

ASV In my Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.

AMP In My Father’s house are many dwelling places. If it were not so, I would have told you, because I am going there to prepare a place for you.

AMPC In My Father’s house there are many dwelling places (homes). If it were not so, I would have told you; for I am going away to prepare a place for you.

BRG In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

CSB In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you?

CEB My Father’s house has room to spare. If that weren’t the case, would I have told you that I’m going to prepare a place for you?

CJB In my Father’s house are many places to live. If there weren’t, I would have told you; because I am going there to prepare a place for you.

CEV There are many rooms in my Father’s house. I wouldn’t tell you this, unless it was true. I am going there to prepare a place for each of you.

DARBY In my Father's house there are many abodes; were it not so, I had told you: for I go to prepare you a place;

DLNT There are many places-to-stay in the house of My Father— otherwise, I would have told you.

DRA In my Father's house there are many mansions. If not, I would have told you: because I go to prepare a place for you.

ERV There are many rooms in my Father’s house. I would not tell you this if it were not true. I am going there to prepare a place for you.

EHV In my Father’s house are many mansions. If it were not so, I would have told you. I am going to prepare a place for you.

ESV In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

ESVUK In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

EXB There are many ·rooms [places to live] in my Father’s house [ heaven, metaphorically portrayed as a great palace]; I would not tell you this if it were not true. I am going there to prepare a place for you.

GNV In my Father’s house are many dwelling places: if it were not so, I would have told you: I go to prepare a place for you.

GW My Father’s house has many rooms. If that were not true, would I have told you that I’m going to prepare a place for you?

GNT There are many rooms in my Father's house, and I am going to prepare a place for you. I would not tell you this if it were not so.

HCSB In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if not, I would have told you. I am going away to prepare a place for you.

ICB There are many rooms in my Father’s house. I would not tell you this if it were not true. I am going there to prepare a place for you.

ISV There are many rooms in my Father’s house. If there weren’t, I wouldn’t have told you that I am going away to prepare a place for you, would I?

PHILLIPS “You must not let yourselves be distressed—you must hold on to your faith in God and to your faith in me. There are many rooms in my Father’s House. If there were not, should I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you? It is true that I am going away to prepare a place for you, but it is just as true that I am coming again to welcome you into my own home, so that you may be where I am. You know where I am going and you know the road I am going to take.”

KJV In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

AKJV In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

LEB In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places; but if not, I would have told you, because I am going away to prepare a place for you.

TLB There are many homes up there where my Father lives, and I am going to prepare them for your coming. When everything is ready, then I will come and get you, so that you can always be with me where I am. If this weren’t so, I would tell you plainly.

MSG “Don’t let this throw you. You trust God, don’t you? Trust me. There is plenty of room for you in my Father’s home. If that weren’t so, would I have told you that I’m on my way to get a room ready for you? And if I’m on my way to get your room ready, I’ll come back and get you so you can live where I live. And you already know the road I’m taking.”

MEV In My Father’s house are many dwelling places. If it were not so, I would have told you. I am going to prepare a place for you.

MOUNCE In · my Father’s house · there are many dwelling places; if · that were not the case, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?

NOG My Father’s house has many rooms. If that were not true, would I have told you that I’m going to prepare a place for you?

NABRE In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If there were not, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you?

NASB In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.

NCV There are many rooms in my Father’s house; I would not tell you this if it were not true. I am going there to prepare a place for you.

NET There are many dwelling places in my Father’s house. Otherwise, I would have told you, because I am going away to make ready a place for you.

NIRV There are many rooms in my Father’s house. If this were not true, would I have told you that I am going there? Would I have told you that I would prepare a place for you there?

NIV My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?

NIVUK My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?

NKJV In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

NLV There are many rooms in My Father’s house. If it were not so, I would have told you. I am going away to make a place for you.

NLT There is more than enough room in my Father’s home. If this were not so, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you?

NMB In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

NRSV In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

NRSVA In my Father’s house there are many dwelling-places. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

NRSVACE In my Father’s house there are many dwelling-places. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

NRSVCE In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

NTE There is plenty of room to live in my father’s house. If that wasn’t the case, I’d have told you, wouldn’t I? I’m going to get a place ready for you!

OJB In the Beis Avi there are many me’onot (dwelling places, permanent residences, homes, cf 14:23); if it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a makom (place) for you?

TPT My Father’s house has many dwelling places. If it were otherwise, I would tell you plainly, because I go to prepare a place for you to rest.

RGT “In My Father’s house are many dwelling places. If it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

RSV In my Father’s house are many rooms; if it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

RSVCE In my Father’s house are many rooms; if it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

TLV In My Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you?

VOICE My Father’s home is designed to accommodate all of you. If there were not room for everyone, I would have told you that. I am going to make arrangements for your arrival.

WEB In my Father’s house are many homes. If it weren’t so, I would have told you. I am going to prepare a place for you.

WE In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, I would have told you. I am going to make a place ready for you.

WYC In the house of my Father be many dwellings; if any thing less, I had said to you [if any thing less, I should have said to you], for I go to make ready to you a place.

YLT in the house of my Father are many mansions; and if not, I would have told you; I go on to prepare a place for you;


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