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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:14 am

    First topic message reminder :

    I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

    The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

    Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop 🛑 the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......


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    Post by dan Tue May 19, 2020 1:57 pm

    2000.........

    Is the father’s house in the sky, Gary?  

    If not, why do you  keep intimating that it is?


    2030..........

    If we consider the virus 🦠 to be the first step of a disclosure process, what should be the next step?  

    I’m suggesting that there should be a message from the other side...... some significant new piece of information.  

    Is this asking too much, under the circumstances?  

    I’m asking if we are going to need to send a second plague.  


    I had a pleasant, hour long, conversation with U, this morning.  

    We seem to be on the same page.  


    Then there is this......... https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/qanon-nothing-can-stop-what-is-coming/610567/



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue May 19, 2020 5:13 pm

    That's not really cultivation Gary.

    It ain't in no book or hidden docs, it's you.

    You are living in your house right now.

    You are here.

    What are you going to do about it?

    Why not try being a real human being.

    We don't know what we don't know.

    Reading a book is not knowing the past.

    Science is too abstract for most to really understand.

    This causes dissonance and Flat Earth theories and much other idiocy.

    They think if the senses can't explain it, it's a lie.

    I disagree with Dawkins completely, Science will not explain it all, we already know we are missing some key pieces, but he says, so what, it's only a matter of time until we understand it all.

    Well, we are easily fooled and there is much we know by influence, but can't see.

    Out of this confusion we have the Internet seething with fear based conspiracies.

    Others seeking advantage over the idiots.

    That is not Love.

    That is evil.

    But there are threads of love in the idiot Noosphere.

    Does that drive one to paranoia?

    Mostly it does or it inspires a great optimism and curiosity.

    I wouldn't trust most people, they don't know themselves.

    My father and mother didn't build me no houses.

    They said...build your own life.

    Q is obviously fake.

    I need no Q to know what to do.

    Q needs a clue to the true reality of being, they have no idea.

    Why is the world full of idiots?

    There is probably a conspiracy to keep them stupid and confused Wink

    Where are the muppets who stand above the idiocy?

    I can take apart every political delusion and religion.

    Show me the Love.

    In your life, in your heart, that you let flow in the world.

    Reconcile love and conspiracy for me.

    What are you pumping into the world?

    Love or fear?

    If one lives in love, they may be a human being, if not, obvious idiot, mark them and move on.

    It's sad to say, here, at the end of our Age, there isn't much love in politics, maybe a little more in religion, if you are a member, fuck you if not.

    So most are scared lying idiots with no love, what to do?

    Too harsh or not harsh enough?

    Harshness is jarring to the senses, I use this tool often, but honest love, goes a long way building trust in a lost and idiotic world, one could even describe as absurd.

    Love is infused and binds everything, you can help others know it is there, but they have to see it and respond in kind.

    NIV wrote:Proverbs 13:3-5

    3 Those who guard their lips preserve their lives,
       but those who speak rashly will come to ruin.

    4 A sluggard’s appetite is never filled,
       but the desires of the diligent are fully satisfied.

    5 The righteous hate what is false,
       but the wicked make themselves a stench
       and bring shame on themselves.

    Quality wins every time.

    Quality shows that one loves themselves enough to take the time to live their life well.

    Those are the ones I'm for and seek to know.

    The rest are idiots I can tolerate because I love them as I know love of my self.

    How could I ever love another, if I have not first loved myself?

    Quality is Love of Wisdom.

    Why would anyone not seek wisdom as the greatest jewel worth any price?

    Is that how we live?

    Uh uh.

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    Post by dan Wed May 20, 2020 11:27 am

    Is there fear..... abroad in the land?  

    Well, there certainly is anticipation.  

    People awaken to the fact that that the center is not holding...... that there is no center.  

    Are the mice playing while the cat is away........?  Even the mice are hushed.  


    1800........

    Are conspiracies abroad in the land?  

    There has only ever been one conspiracy.  

    Folks do attempt to play the game, but they, especially they, have no idea whose game they are playing into.  



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    Post by whoknows Wed May 20, 2020 11:39 am

    Wild Unknown.

    First card is for everyone I think. The High Priestess.

    look past the obvious.

    It’s time to delve, find something you’ve never said before. Or heard....
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed May 20, 2020 12:00 pm

    wk is going End Times mystical, I LIKE IT!
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    Post by whoknows Wed May 20, 2020 12:06 pm

    Popped out landed right in front of me on my first shuffle.
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    Post by dan Wed May 20, 2020 12:09 pm

    1810.......

    The Princess did have an ‘audience’ with beneD shortly before he resigned.  Being out on the street, I can imagine it as another rendition of the Figueres incident...... she took him around the block.  The church has not been the same, since.

    It occurs to me that she and Chivo are in much the same boat, relative to Disclosure..... it’s not her thing...... she is definitely not on a mission.   What is she on?  

    Is foot 🦶 on a mission?  ...... mainly to serve the Princess, it would seem.  

    Evidently she does interact with insiders.  She does show foot 🦶 the ropes...... the levers.  

    I imagine that this lends some reassurance as to...... our being on track....... no need for Monday morning quarterbacking.  

    The chick 🐥 can just bide his own little time.  My patience can wear thin, at times....... and a lot of good it does me.  

    Perhaps her mission is to keep chick 🐥 on a short leash...... and she can do that without breaking into a sweat 😓...... such a gentleman is the chick 🐥.  


    1920.......

    If I get out of line, she gives me the tutu treatment.  
    .......

    Fear may be a character defect.  

    But, also, fear is instilled into us.  

    You may have reasons to not be afraid.  

    Can you share any thoughts?  
    chick 🐥 loves to talk to his little self.  
    Encoded in our DNA?

    Well, I don't believe in atoms ⚛, but, yes, it would be encoded in the stars of our destiny.  
    Encoded in the Alpha and Omega.  

    The Alpha is the seed of the Omega, and the Omega is the seed of the Alpha....... Logos Spermatikos...... Ouroboros.  


    2000........

    Hmm
    Hmmm........

    Of all people....... the Princess should understand the illusion of time.....  leading us by the nose......

    Fear not, said the Angel..... she’s got us covered.  

    And on the other side of the conversation is d, of course.  Who is riding shotgun?  Shotgun would be an understatement.

    What then is the point of our little charade?

    Just to pour a little oil on troubled waters....... these being times.....

    The supreme court is refusing to release the Mueller report..... until probably after the election.  Is that for the best?  Has the needle been threaded?  There were no dissents.  

    When will our suspense be over?  

    When will we see the Eschaton in the rear view mirror?  

    Would 🐐/👸 know this?  

    Will we know it when we see it, or when we don’t?  

    How shiny is our mirror of nature?  

    And what do we mean by ‘we’, Kimosabe?  

    How entangled will be this portal?  

    99.9% is below the surface, of course.  


    2130........

    With regard to the mirror of nature...... let’s not fire until we see the..... back of our head.  

    In six months........?  Hmmm.......

    That would be a challenge, wouldn’t it, Princess 👸?  

    Are we up to it?  

    That’s the only thing this game is about.  

    Comprene?  

    Who volunteers to be our witness?  


    2000.......

    It seems that After Disclosure (2012) might have some relevance to the small world.......
    If alien civilizations have sent their own explorers across the universe to visit us, who are they? What do they want? And why would some of our people keep the news of their arrival from the rest of us? What will unmasking a truth of this magnitude do to our reality, our way of life, our culture, our society? Could it be that these beings are not “visitors” from another part of our universe, universe, but full-time residents of our world already? Are even stranger physics involved, such as dimensions or time travel? Any such revelation will be a game-changer of monumental proportions. Unlike 9/ 11 when we said everything changed, in this case it really will. Full Disclosure could usher in an age of human unity or one of greater global conflict. It could lead to paradise or hell.
    hmmm........
    If there is a final thought to the journey of A.D. After Disclosure, it is a couple words of advice: no fear. That means: Do not be afraid to express your views regarding the reality of other intelligences interacting with humanity, for the truth is that more people believe this than you realize. Do not fear the secret-keepers, for they are people, too, who have generally done what they have out of the belief that it was best. Also, do not fear their power, as they are not infallible, and time is against them. You have your own resources to marshal the truth. Do not fear the Others, either, no matter what that truth may be. Whether they are angels, demons, good, bad, or indifferent to our fate, do not fear them. You lived well enough up until now, and you will survive well enough after the Great Change. Above all, believe in humankind, in our ability to face unexpected challenges, in the strength and wisdom that reside within us, waiting for the moment to manifest.
    That’s the spirit.......



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    Post by hobbit Wed May 20, 2020 12:31 pm

    dan wrote:The Princess did have an ‘audience’ with beneD shortly before he resigned.  Being out on the street, I can imagine it as another rendition of the Figueres incident...... she took him around the block.  The church has not been the same, since.

    It occurs to me that she and Chivo are in much the same boat, relative to Disclosure..... it’s not her thing...... she is definitely not on a mission.   What is she on?  



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    It's to be hoped She is on the side of ...We the people.


    This site says invalid video????????????


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed May 20, 2020 4:40 pm

    No fear.

    I have been saying that almost every day.

    Don’t blame the messengers, don’t care what has been done.

    Also, take whatever becomes public with a grain of salt.

    Wisdom is cultivated.

    Human Being aren’t born.

    So if one is serious about this, they must take up the work of refining themselves.

    No cheating is possible.

    No rewards or missions.

    You do this because you love yourself.

    The reward is your quality.

    Because you did as mush as you could.

    Fear will not take you into this, it only delays it.

    Enough with the fear.

    Gloves off.

    Death is coming.
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    Post by dan Wed May 20, 2020 4:56 pm

    With a grain of salt..........?

    Is that like chicken cacciatore?
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed May 20, 2020 7:11 pm

    Whatever becomes public will be for the benefit of selfish human beings.

    Only you can realize this.

    Ignore everyone else until you have.

    Public action atm is only a delaying and distraction operation.

    Trump has showed us how to do that.

    Thanks Trump for showing us naked power.

    It’s ugly, childish and can only be tolerated.

    You can’t stop it.

    You can’t make them care about life.

    They only fear their loss of power and death.

    And it brings me great peace that these liars will soon be dead.

    I might be dead soon too.

    Oh my.

    Lies will die and wisdom dies with the vessels of it.

    We will always have to try to keep wisdom alive.

    I know there will always be a few who will see their being.

    It must be the best amount of evil and heart.

    No choice but to accept this mess as it is.

    Starting with our own mess.

    They will never let go of power Dan.

    You can’t be that naive.

    They can only be forced.

    Humanity is still too stupid and mean caused from fear.

    The princess is right.

    Keep us out.

    Keep the animals in their pen and keep the meanest leading us until we get smart enough to cut the serpents’ heads off.

    But when a head is cut off, another will grow.

    So we will just have to make our best lives from the shit.

    Check in again in 1000 years if anyone is left.

    I think the only real chance we have are small enlightened groups focused on wisdom.

    Maybe eventually we will be more awake than asleep.

    Or maybe never.

    Shrug.

    It’s got to be 1 by 1.

    This is a dead world.

    A hell world.

    I have no faith in our system accept that it will make a big dent in life’s ability to survive.

    I guess we will be stronger having endured this ignorance if we survive it.

    I think now belongs to Human Beings, but not enough of us have showed up yet.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed May 20, 2020 7:51 pm

    OMF is a Mystery school.

    We are the mystery.

    Until we aren’t.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed May 20, 2020 10:25 pm

    They say half the people who smoke DMT end up believing in god.

    I say they didn’t smoke enough, keep going until you kill all the gods you find.

    Then you will really have done it.

    wk, I don’t quite get why this scientist is being quoted other places saying they have evidence of a reverse universe.

    WTF is he talking about?

    He sounds like he’s trying to expose something before they shut it down.

    https://whdh.com/news/nasa-uncovers-evidence-of-bizarre-parallel-universe-where-physics-time-operate-in-reverse/

    He says physicists are upset at the publicity he’s stirring up.

    Well, you went public dude, they are pissed.

    It seems very irresponsible to make claims like that.

    I appreciate good science, this doesn’t seem very well handled.

    I have read of a theory that an opposite universe may have spawned when ours did.

    Maybe they were looking for evidence like this to prove that?

    It all smells fishy to me.

    And you know the smelly goat has a nose for smelly things.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu May 21, 2020 1:37 am

    Poor Dan, tied up in fits with this pandemic petering out.

    The idiots are just too dumb to die.

    Princess won’t give him the good stuff.

    His best friend, a CIA related weirdo I hear, just won’t come clean.

    Sadly he is condemned to spend his days on OMF with a smelly goat who knows least of any human alive.

    I’d say this must be hell for ole Dan.

    Goats like to wander on the fringe of hell.

    We pass back and forth freely between the living and not.

    We walk the lonely mountain pass, one with the worn trail.

    We like to lunch on flowers 🌸 along the way.

    Hell has the best tasting flowers.

    I’ll come clean I guess.

    I only came here for the flowers.
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    Post by hobbit Thu May 21, 2020 2:05 am

    El Chivo wrote:Poor Dan, tied up in fits with this pandemic petering out.

    The idiots are just too dumb to die.
    .........
    ............

    I’ll come clean I guess.

    I only came here for the flowers.

    Swami goat,



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    That's a Yorkshire greeting.

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    Post by dan Thu May 21, 2020 10:05 am

    1600.......

    Yes, we do fear the hive mind.  

    We have a fear of waking up and finding ourselves in an ant 🐜 nest.  

    This is Chivo 🐐’s greatest fear.  

    Chick 🐥 is no fan of insect life....... of the Borg/Hive.  

    Many would sooner find ourselves in a snake 🐍 pit.  

    Living in a hive might be a candidate for the worst possible world...... yes, a good metaphor for Hell.  

    My goddaughter, the Princess, claims to be the Queen Bee.  

    That we are living in such a hell, already, has been the typical claim of Gnostics, down through the ages........ Demiurge = Queen Bee 🐝.  

    But, my friends, such are the wages of monism.  

    Chivo 🐐 would much prefer anarchy, and so would I, given those choices.  

    Ufology is basically a modern form of gnosticism.  

    Is chick 🐥 at loggerheads with the queen 🐝?  

    I’m not into gardening, as much as she and Chivo are.  

    It seems that the only alternative to the Hive is some form of radical pluralism....... each to their own.  

    Why not just E Pluribus?  Why do we have to bother with the Unum part of it?

    The problem is that pluralism, per se, is impossible.

    There cannot exist only two things.

    How would the one thing ever come to know of the other thing, without some form of intermediation?



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu May 21, 2020 11:00 am

    Do you see these idiots on Fox promoting rebellion for church goers?

    It makes me laugh in weird ways, like, wow.

    This is not a faith issue.

    This is a false fake argument incredibly irresponsible.

    Trump threatening to withhold funds for choosing mail in ballots.

    California has had mail in ballots for years.

    This is illegal and immoral.

    Russia just released a new 100 mile per hour Nuclear torpedo.

    This is what the world needs?

    We slagged this planet and now we live in protein pods and the machines are torturing us with this nonsense.

    There is an insanity loose in the country.

    Trump thinks killing people is worth it to get re-elected.

    This is a very evil muppet.

    Restricting our vote?

    Trump is the real threat.

    Best to keep the TV off these days.

    Lies lies lies.

    I’m so sick of lies.

    Choice between hive and garden?

    We started in a garden.

    I bet we finish in one.

    We are not hive bees.

    Sorry, fuck the hive.

    If I could, I’d burn it down and force us out into the wild.

    If that’s the only way for life to continue then maybe it shouldn’t.
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    Post by dan Thu May 21, 2020 11:10 am

    Finally, Chivo is starting to wake up to the fact that there is still a world out there...... beyond his garden.

    Yes, that other world is still optional...... all we have to do is turn off the tv.

    In fact, that might be donny’s job down here....... getting us to turn off the tv. He is very effective at it...... and trust him...... everything in tv 📺 land is fake news...... especially donny, his own little self.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu May 21, 2020 11:13 am

    It’s a disgusting sick insane world.

    The wolves are ravaging the sheep.

    People are being exposed for who they are.

    Stupid.

    If the hive is our only option, I’ll take death.

    I turned the TV off.

    The world is the best one, but we are far from our best in it.
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    Post by dan Thu May 21, 2020 11:21 am

    1720........

    Fear not, Chivo.......

    We have only to awaken to the fact that ours is not the best world......

    It is simply the only world that is possible.

    So it has really been a mistake all along to call this the BPW.  

    No...... ours is the only one possible.  

    But, I’ll say this much about it.......... you could line up all the engineers, scientists and philosophers, and they couldn’t come up with a better one...... even, or especially, as we peer into the Abyss of our destruction.  

    Now I’m not saying that 3.5’s Cheetahland is better or worse than this one...... it’s just that cheetahland could not exist without her intermediation.  

    No two things can exist without intermediation.  

    This is all that anyone has to know about anything.  

    Ontology and epistemology are totally entangled..... just like everything else.  

    How is it, then, that we can walk around as if we had even a smidgen of freedom?  

    It’s all an illusion, of course.  Poor Chivo..... just can’t see the forest for all the trees.  


    1800........

    Two things can exist only by a codependent arising....... pratītyasamutpāda.  

    We, in the West, were just to dense to figure that out...... all of us except for Parmenides, bless his heart.  

    So what was the point of the jguy, then?

    His only job was only to demonstrate that the One also happened to be his best buddy.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu May 21, 2020 11:58 am

    Poor Dan with no garden.

    You are missing out on one of the most worshipful things we can do.

    We can truly commune.

    Illusion or not, if it feels real, it’s real enough.

    I’m just about convinced we really are living in a hive in a protein pod.

    Maybe the insects saved us for snack time.

    Well, I feel I found a way to best, doing not doing.

    But still, it’s not a numbers game, it’s a quality game.

    If I’m going to be a Scooby snack, at least be the best one I can be.

    I think it pragmatic of you to say it is simply the only world that is possible.

    To say it’s best is an optimistic flourish on the brutal reality of this.

    Perhaps you are right, it still doesn’t matter to me what this is, it only matters to me how i live.

    Not how we live, how I live.

    That’s the best I can do.

    I am much more honest and practical than you about life.

    So I’ll peter along with my garden and baubles and I’ll do the best I can.

    This world has not, nor could ever rob me of my peace.

    I am the only one who has ever left peace.

    The day which we fear as our last is but the birthday of eternity. - Seneca

    Take rest; a field that has rested gives a bountiful crop. - Ovid
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    Post by dan Thu May 21, 2020 12:12 pm

    1810........
    But still, it’s not a numbers game, it’s a quality game.
    Houston...... this is Apollo 13...... you have a numbers problem.  

    Houston, your numbers game is interfering with Chivo’s quality game.  

    Really, Chivo.......?!

    Well, I feel I found a way to [be] best, doing not doing.
    The biggest illusion of all is that we are actually doing something.  

    The only real work we ever do is when we are asleep 😴, dreaming.  

    All the rest is illusion...... it is for our edutainment...... to inform our dreams.  


    1840.......

    Our only real work is our dream work....... and this is our intermediation with the other side....... our remediation.



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