With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Science is too abstract for most to really understand.
This causes dissonance and Flat Earth theories and much other idiocy.
They think if the senses can't explain it, it's a lie.
I disagree with Dawkins completely, Science will not explain it all, we already know we are missing some key pieces, but he says, so what, it's only a matter of time until we understand it all.
Well, we are easily fooled and there is much we know by influence, but can't see.
Out of this confusion we have the Internet seething with fear based conspiracies.
Others seeking advantage over the idiots.
That is not Love.
That is evil.
But there are threads of love in the idiot Noosphere.
Does that drive one to paranoia?
Mostly it does or it inspires a great optimism and curiosity.
I wouldn't trust most people, they don't know themselves.
My father and mother didn't build me no houses.
They said...build your own life.
Q is obviously fake.
I need no Q to know what to do.
Q needs a clue to the true reality of being, they have no idea.
Why is the world full of idiots?
There is probably a conspiracy to keep them stupid and confused
Where are the muppets who stand above the idiocy?
I can take apart every political delusion and religion.
Show me the Love.
In your life, in your heart, that you let flow in the world.
Reconcile love and conspiracy for me.
What are you pumping into the world?
Love or fear?
If one lives in love, they may be a human being, if not, obvious idiot, mark them and move on.
It's sad to say, here, at the end of our Age, there isn't much love in politics, maybe a little more in religion, if you are a member, fuck you if not.
So most are scared lying idiots with no love, what to do?
Too harsh or not harsh enough?
Harshness is jarring to the senses, I use this tool often, but honest love, goes a long way building trust in a lost and idiotic world, one could even describe as absurd.
Love is infused and binds everything, you can help others know it is there, but they have to see it and respond in kind.
NIV wrote:Proverbs 13:3-5
3 Those who guard their lips preserve their lives, but those who speak rashly will come to ruin.
4 A sluggard’s appetite is never filled, but the desires of the diligent are fully satisfied.
5 The righteous hate what is false, but the wicked make themselves a stench and bring shame on themselves.
Quality wins every time.
Quality shows that one loves themselves enough to take the time to live their life well.
Those are the ones I'm for and seek to know.
The rest are idiots I can tolerate because I love them as I know love of my self.
How could I ever love another, if I have not first loved myself?
Quality is Love of Wisdom.
Why would anyone not seek wisdom as the greatest jewel worth any price?
The Princess did have an ‘audience’ with beneD shortly before he resigned. Being out on the street, I can imagine it as another rendition of the Figueres incident...... she took him around the block. The church has not been the same, since.
It occurs to me that she and Chivo are in much the same boat, relative to Disclosure..... it’s not her thing...... she is definitely not on a mission. What is she on?
Is foot 🦶 on a mission? ...... mainly to serve the Princess, it would seem.
Evidently she does interact with insiders. She does show foot 🦶 the ropes...... the levers.
I imagine that this lends some reassurance as to...... our being on track....... no need for Monday morning quarterbacking.
The chick can just bide his own little time. My patience can wear thin, at times....... and a lot of good it does me.
Perhaps her mission is to keep chick on a short leash...... and she can do that without breaking into a sweat ...... such a gentleman is the chick .
1920.......
If I get out of line, she gives me the tutu treatment. .......
Fear may be a character defect.
But, also, fear is instilled into us.
You may have reasons to not be afraid.
Can you share any thoughts?
chick loves to talk to his little self.
Encoded in our DNA?
Well, I don't believe in atoms , but, yes, it would be encoded in the stars of our destiny.
Encoded in the Alpha and Omega.
The Alpha is the seed of the Omega, and the Omega is the seed of the Alpha....... Logos Spermatikos...... Ouroboros.
2000........
Hmm
Hmmm........
Of all people....... the Princess should understand the illusion of time..... leading us by the nose......
Fear not, said the Angel..... she’s got us covered.
And on the other side of the conversation is d, of course. Who is riding shotgun? Shotgun would be an understatement.
What then is the point of our little charade?
Just to pour a little oil on troubled waters....... these being times.....
The supreme court is refusing to release the Mueller report..... until probably after the election. Is that for the best? Has the needle been threaded? There were no dissents.
When will our suspense be over?
When will we see the Eschaton in the rear view mirror?
Would / know this?
Will we know it when we see it, or when we don’t?
How shiny is our mirror of nature?
And what do we mean by ‘we’, Kimosabe?
How entangled will be this portal?
99.9% is below the surface, of course.
2130........
With regard to the mirror of nature...... let’s not fire until we see the..... back of our head.
In six months........? Hmmm.......
That would be a challenge, wouldn’t it, Princess ?
Are we up to it?
That’s the only thing this game is about.
Comprene?
Who volunteers to be our witness?
2000.......
It seems that After Disclosure (2012) might have some relevance to the small world.......
If alien civilizations have sent their own explorers across the universe to visit us, who are they? What do they want? And why would some of our people keep the news of their arrival from the rest of us? What will unmasking a truth of this magnitude do to our reality, our way of life, our culture, our society? Could it be that these beings are not “visitors” from another part of our universe, universe, but full-time residents of our world already? Are even stranger physics involved, such as dimensions or time travel? Any such revelation will be a game-changer of monumental proportions. Unlike 9/ 11 when we said everything changed, in this case it really will. Full Disclosure could usher in an age of human unity or one of greater global conflict. It could lead to paradise or hell.
hmmm........
If there is a final thought to the journey of A.D. After Disclosure, it is a couple words of advice: no fear. That means: Do not be afraid to express your views regarding the reality of other intelligences interacting with humanity, for the truth is that more people believe this than you realize. Do not fear the secret-keepers, for they are people, too, who have generally done what they have out of the belief that it was best. Also, do not fear their power, as they are not infallible, and time is against them. You have your own resources to marshal the truth. Do not fear the Others, either, no matter what that truth may be. Whether they are angels, demons, good, bad, or indifferent to our fate, do not fear them. You lived well enough up until now, and you will survive well enough after the Great Change. Above all, believe in humankind, in our ability to face unexpected challenges, in the strength and wisdom that reside within us, waiting for the moment to manifest.
That’s the spirit.......
(cont........)
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dan wrote:The Princess did have an ‘audience’ with beneD shortly before he resigned. Being out on the street, I can imagine it as another rendition of the Figueres incident...... she took him around the block. The church has not been the same, since.
It occurs to me that she and Chivo are in much the same boat, relative to Disclosure..... it’s not her thing...... she is definitely not on a mission. What is she on?
(cont........)
It's to be hoped She is on the side of ...We the people.
Finally, Chivo is starting to wake up to the fact that there is still a world out there...... beyond his garden.
Yes, that other world is still optional...... all we have to do is turn off the tv.
In fact, that might be donny’s job down here....... getting us to turn off the tv. He is very effective at it...... and trust him...... everything in tv land is fake news...... especially donny, his own little self.
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We have only to awaken to the fact that ours is not the best world......
It is simply the only world that is possible.
So it has really been a mistake all along to call this the BPW.
No...... ours is the only one possible.
But, I’ll say this much about it.......... you could line up all the engineers, scientists and philosophers, and they couldn’t come up with a better one...... even, or especially, as we peer into the Abyss of our destruction.
Now I’m not saying that 3.5’s Cheetahland is better or worse than this one...... it’s just that cheetahland could not exist without her intermediation.
No two things can exist without intermediation.
This is all that anyone has to know about anything.
Ontology and epistemology are totally entangled..... just like everything else.
How is it, then, that we can walk around as if we had even a smidgen of freedom?
It’s all an illusion, of course. Poor Chivo..... just can’t see the forest for all the trees.
1800........
Two things can exist only by a codependent arising....... pratītyasamutpāda.
We, in the West, were just to dense to figure that out...... all of us except for Parmenides, bless his heart.
So what was the point of the jguy, then?
His only job was only to demonstrate that the One also happened to be his best buddy.
(cont........)
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