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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:14 am

    First topic message reminder :

    I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

    The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

    Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop 🛑 the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......


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    In the Apotheosis of Groundlessness...

    All Things Are Possible
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:01 pm

    Trust takes work.

    It is born from confronting fear together.

    I have forged a trust with Ack I’d say.

    We have suffered together.

    We are not master and student.

    We are ourselves.

    Socrates was made wise by his poetic Daimon, self confessed.

    “I stand beneath the mountain with an illiterate heart.”

    ...

    Some thoughts as intro to Leo Shestov, my favorite existential irrationalist Russian.

    If you don’t read him and get into his mind and heart you have no idea really what is happening in the world now.

    We have a monkey on our backs. You can’t get rid of it. You have to live with it. It can’t stop consuming, but you can. We have to watch our step and be careful with it. It is easy to wound others with it or kill yourself in consumption.

    We are surrounded by stupidity and evil and some good cheer. Being is like this itch u can’t scratch. It feels like a pregnant force is having a child. For us sensitives, there is no escape from it. It drives you crazy, that ringing in your ears and light in your 👁 all the time until you learn how to relax and create.

    Being alive is a compromise, a detente. I am convinced the world is not ‘like’ a dream, truly, it is the most immaculate beautifully simple dream.

    An intro to All Things Are Possible.

    “With Russians it is different than with the European. They have only been inoculated with the 🦠 of European culture and ethic. The virus works in them like a disease. And the inflammation and irritation comes forth as literature. The bubbling and fizzing is almost chemical, not organic. It is an organism seething and writhing as it accepts and masters the strange virus.

    What the Russian is struggling with, crying out against, is not life itself: it is only European culture which has been introduced into his psyche, and which hurts him. Russian art is not spontaneous beautiful utterance. It is not a flowering of a race. It is an outcry, horrifying or marvelous.

    Her genuine Christianity is Byzantine and Asiatic. What she has really to utter the coming centuries will hear. For Russia will certainly inherit the future. What we already call the greatness of Russia is only her pre-natal struggling.

    European idealism is anathema. But more than this, it is a little comical. There is a freedom in shestov’s half amused indifference.

    He refutes any imputation of a central idea. He is so afraid to make another hateful ideal. Everything is possible is his response cry. It is not nihilism. It is a shaking free of the human psyche from old bonds.

    His positive idea is the human psyche really believes in itself and in nothing else. The human psyche itself is the source of the creative well of activity. From the deep unconscious the creative prompting bubbles up.

    Open the consciousness and follow this prompting, away with all your old sluice-gates, locks, dams, channels. No ideal on earth is anything more than obstruction, in the end, to the creative issue of the spontaneous soul. Away with all ideals.

    Let each individual act spontaneously from the forever-incalculable prompting of the creative well-head within him. There is no universe law. Each being is, at his purest, a law unto himself, single, unique, a Godhead, a fountain from the unknown.”

    —D.H. Lawrence

    I can imagine the devil, not the dumb view of this force, but that deep blue 🔥 speaking and writing those words.

    I share their amusement and hear the cry of my deepest darkness in their cries.

    When ideas have aged into the forgotten past and they eat their servants as a lion, they should be dispatched. Until then, ideas can be liberating and not be held as ideals.

    The Russians are like a wounded animal now. They are wild and not as in touch with their emotions. They are in touch with their rage and it makes them strong like a Wolverine. They can easily eat the fat sheep of america. They are hunters and killers, the 🐺s at the Edge.

    The barbarians at the gate who won’t be civilized.
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    Post by dan Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:17 am

    1420z........

    Yes, there is the allure of the contrarian..... of the renegade.  

    This agnostic nihilism marks the final phase of our sojourn into the Wilderness.  

    But, by far, the greatest nihilist of all time was Charles Darwin.  

    He did not set out to be a nihilist, but he has spawned every nihilist, since.  

    He was no ideologue...... he was merely a meticulous recorder of facts.  

    Well, that was his guise.  

    Darwin played an essential role in the march of ideas.  

    There was definitely a method in his madness.  

    If modernity needed a bulldozer, he was it.  

    And, yes, modernity needed a bulldozer.  

    Did every ancient structure have to be razed?  

    Well, it was inevitable.  

    It was necessary for us to get an unobstructed view into the abyss.  

    And, yes, we needed that dark night of the soul, to be liberated from the baggage of the past.  

    We needed a new foundation.  

    Yes, the new foundation was to be the self.  

    At, first, of course, there was the clamor..... the fervor of the selves, unbound.  

    The Stalins, Hitlers, Maos, Trumps...... of the world could easily rise to the top.  

    Anything to fill that void.  

    We had to learn the lesson of nihilism....... the hard way.  

    We could not see the forest...... for all the trees.  

    What were all these selves?  Were they just atoms swerving in the void?  

    Perhaps so.  It’s certainly not easy to prove otherwise...... particularly not when the most articulate renounce all wisdom, and make straight the way for the coming of the bulldozer.  


    1530........

    Yes, great mayhem could arise from that abyss.  

    But that was not all.  

    Consider mathematics, for example.  Who ordered mathematics?  

    Is it just something from nothing?  

    Are we something from nothing?  

    Why is there something rather than nothing?  

    We are lost in space and time, but from where do space and time arise?  

    Is everything just the illusion of the atoms in the void?  

    From whence came those atoms..... those illusions?

    It all just came from the Big Bang........ which came from the Void...... from the Abyss....... a quantum fluctuation.  

    chick 🐥 cannot prove otherwise.  

    Was this an accident....... an accident waiting to happen?

    Who was waiting?



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    Post by painterdoug Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:56 am

    HAPPY 4TH GOAT AND CHICKEN
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:25 am

    Happy 4th painter.

    We must hang together or surely, we will all hang separately.

    It took an act of courage for each that signed that document no matter their religion or ideology.

    Courage is love unbound.

    They loved this land.

    That alone is worthy of respect and a sign of their deep quality.

    Another case of going ALL IN when the odds were against us.

    Have we been good stewards?

    Eh

    It seems America had a destiny and I think we mostly fulfilled it.

    Dan, I don’t feel we are lost, we can become agile in free fall.

    We may have to live with the nasty abortion revived like Frankenstein that is trump and his America.

    It is an easy test if one follows trump.

    They are liars refusing to accept themselves.

    Sheep and goats indeed.

    The goats knows better.

    The goats knows best.

    🐔 just scratch in the dirt Wink

    Goats dance 💃 for joy.

    Goats know 🍗 🥚 is just good for eatin.



    Ima bad 🐐 but I’m free fallin...
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:38 am

    Synchronistic with Dan’s chicken scratches.

    Just saw it.

    Pretty good actually.

    Archetypes as organizing principles, Omega point, the culmination of evolution.



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    Post by dan Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:40 pm

    Thank you, Doug.  


    Eric,

    The mixing of the ideas of evolution and and teleology has resulted in the greatest evil in history.

    Chivo just can’t seem to get it through his thick skull.  

    Why did the evil of Social Darwinism have to be inevitable in the best possible world?  

    It’s not easy to rationalize the greatest evil in history.  

    It was a hubris that was inevitable, given our transition from creatures to coCreators.  

    We could have avoided that evil by having Disclosure sooner.  

    The trade off would have been less time to explore our existential selves...... explore our collective dark night of the soul..... ourselves in free fall.  

    There would have been neither smelly nor the Princess.  How many million lives were they worth?  

    How many lives was it worth to have this quasi spontaneous Disclosure?  

    Odd fact....... the philosopher of despair, Lev, turned to the jguy, in the end.  That’s what despair is for.  


    The existence of a Telos proves that time is an illusion..... that Alpha = Omega.  

    It also proves that the I Am and the best/only possible world are inevitable.  If this is the only possible one, then it is moot as to whether it is the best or worst.  Should this bother us?  Not really, I think it is mainly a semantic issue.  

    This is related to the fact that hate must be parasitic upon love.  Could it not be the other way around?  If hate were the driver, then it seems there would have been nothing, rather than something.  There would be no feedback loop.  



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    Post by dan Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:25 am

    1330z........

    Teleology and evolution are like combining nitric acid with glycerin.  

    Evolution is the most dangerous term......  

    Evolution........
    the gradual _development_ of something, especially from a simple to a more complex form.

    Development......
    is a process that creates growth, progress, positive change or the addition of physical, economic, environmental, social and demographic components.

    There is no way that anyone is going to remove the idea of directedness from the common notion evolution...... no matter how much lip service is given to the alleged randomness of the process.  


    1400.........

    Well, thank you, Doug.......

    The Truth will out...... no matter how much the resistance.  A trickle of water 💧 will carve a canyon through a mountain 🏔...... that is if you believe in geological time...... I don’t, but you get the idea.  

    But I do believe in Eternity...... the Revelation of the Truth has been laid down through the Aeons.  

    No kicking goat can stop 🛑 the still, small voice.  

    And, trust me, we have all the time in the world.  

    Doug has the definitive Disclosure coming to Broadway 🎭.  

    And it’s a very small, personal world, after all.  
    ........


    Charles Darwin epitomizes the banality of evil.......

    All he wanted was the facts...... all he got was the facts.  

    Origin of the species........ my butt, Charlie...... go get him, smelly.  

    Charlie, along with the many millions who were slaughtered in his name, was inevitable.  That is a high price to pay for the Coverup.  

    Was it worth it?  The jury is still out.  Disclosure remains hidden in the wings...... the answer is blowing in the wind.  

    There is ample hubris implied in the sweep 🧹 of Origins.  

    But all that hubris was just a cover for the cosmic Hubris that was hidden behind it.

    God hides in our innermost depths....... we are about to suffer the Rapture of those depths.  

    It is the Lord of the Abyss.  

    We spy her in those depths, and on the other side of every portal.  

    Recall that every atom is a portal...... with a quantum aperture.  

    Every number and name is a portal.  

    When we left paradise, we left through a portal...... we were sent on a mission...... as co-Creators.  

    The I Am sent the We Are on a mission...... to create the only possible world..... which is necessarily also the best.  

    The foundations of the world are constructed sub specie aeternitas, which manifests to us as deep space and deep time...... which also manifests in the abyss of the self.  Free will is the ramification of the logical dimension of time....... the Logos.  


    1600.......

    We are the buckle of the only possible Bootstrap.  

    Yes, there are many eddies in the backwash of our Cosmos.  

    How do we know that this is the Center?  

    Creation cannot be any larger and still be personal.  

    No one will deny that the Earth pushes the envelope of the personal.  

    Are we pushing the boundaries of the infinite God?

    No, we are pushing the boundaries of the personal God.

    We are pushing the boundaries of our personhood...... thank you very much!



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    Post by painterdoug Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:46 am

    goat. thanks for your reply. go easy on the chicken . goats can kick, chickens only peck
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:08 am

    If one shows me their ass, they will get the horns Wink

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    Post by dan Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:21 am

    Chivo,

    That’s the spirit.  

    Charlie needs a swift butt in the buttocks....... especially since he has become the sacred cow 🐄 of the scientific 🧪 establishment.  

    In going after the chick 🐥, all you are doing is protecting the cow 🐄.  

    Of course, you are well aware that the fundamental literalists have turned Charlie into a political hot 🥵 potato 🥔.  

    In that arena, the Truth will be the last thing that anyone hears.  

    The very worst of us are filled with passionate intensity.



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    Post by painterdoug Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:34 am

    goat/ in the original film the taking of Pelham 123, there is a bum person passed out from drinking thats sleeping in one of the cars at the start of the film. And in all the mayhem of a runaway train, chaos , people shooting etc he slides up and down the car bench asleep and never wakes up until the train finally stops and the danger over.
    I think of this scene often . Sleeping thru most of this will also do. But I just cant seem to sleep.
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    Post by dan Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:48 am

    1650.........

    This is the best show on Earth.  

    Who would want to miss that?  

    Chivo has been keeping the day trippers at bay...... bless his heart...... but maybe it’s time to invite some back in.

    The hopes and fears of all the years will have to be vested somewhere.  

    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

    Charlie is a formidable opponent...... but he has a very soft spot.    

    Personalism is the sword 🗡 that can be dispatched between his shoulder blades...... when he lowers his head...... speaking of the sacred Bull.  

    The Fundamentalists are scared 😱 to death 💀 of personalism.  

    So, yes, personalism is a two edged sword....... as if it had been designed to slay two dragons 🐉 at once.  

    And that is exactly what it will do.

    Personalism is the gaping gap between science and religion.  

    The Princess 👸 has the sword 🗡...... if only she will allow chick 🐥 to wield it.  


    1750........


    Doug may be the necessary intermediary.  

    It may have something to do with the configuration of the backyard....... how prosaic.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:51 am

    I speak from this.

    You attack the goat.

    The enemies of my enemy are my friends.

    Moooooooo
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    Post by dan Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:09 pm

    1810.........

    Who attacks the goat 🐐?  

    Charlie doesn’t attack you personally....... it’s all very subtle..... until it isn’t.

    If the Princess trusts me with the sword, I can take out the twin evils that lie at the heart of science and religion.  

    This evil is their respective denials of personhood.  

    Religion is much more selective in their denial...... that tends to make it more pernicious.  


    2000........

    Lack of personhood is the source of every evil.

    Belief in personhood is a radical belief.  

    There is weak personhood.  That is empirical personhood...... we are the measure of all things.  

    Protagoras was the progenitor of this belief.  

    All knowledge is relative to the subject.  

    chick 🐥 goes the next step.........

    All existence is relative to the subject.  

    It is one thing to say that there is no objective knowledge.  

    It is another thing to say that there are no objects.  


    2130.........

    The physicalist version of personhood is to be found in the quantum notion of obseverhood.  

    From Wheeler....... the only real phenomenon is the observed phenomenon.  

    What about a tree falling in the forest?  

    Doesn’t a cat get hungry, even when unobserved?  

    These questions harken back to Owen Barfield.  

    Was there anything on the dark side of the Moon 🌚?

    Well the only thing that can’t exist is nothing.  

    I think of this problem as ontologically akin to our blind spot...... that part of our visual field is filled in our general consciousness.  

    We are generally not aware of our blind spot unless we take some pains.  Mathematics is the great filler in.  

    There is continuity of consciousness.  

    Mere sentience does not qualify one as an observer.

    There has to be an awareness of the context....... one has to be part of a self-aware network....... an interpersonal network...... etc.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:48 pm

    Moooooooo
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:21 pm

    Bahaha

    Gotta love muppets.

    They are generally consistent in their stupidity and lack of imagination or good humor.

    If you can’t laugh at yourself, you are just wasting time not laughing.
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    Post by dan Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:18 pm

    Eric, Doug and I were listening in on Grant’s three hour show on YouTube live, with nine panelists.  

    It was mostly about the follow on from the Wilson/Davis document.  

    There was much concern about the ufo program going rogue.  

    It was a bit amusing to hear the various expressions of moral outrage.  

    These were folks with all kinds of experience and connections.  

    But they were going about their investigations in such a deliberate and piecemeal manner.  

    Yes, at least they were in the right ballpark, but they were still rummaging around in the dugouts, while the game was going on, out on the field.  

    It’s a small world, yes, but that doesn’t mean that we should think small.

    Folks are looking for love in all the wrong places.

    There is only one place to hide the biggest secret in the cosmos...... at the bottom of our hearts.



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    Post by dan Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:54 am

    1400z..........

    Support for Darwinism is an inch deep and three miles wide...... like the facts is represents.  

    Darwinism defines academic correctness.  

    It is the bastion of the narrow minded.  

    Yes, Virginia, there is continuity in Nature.  

    There is continuity in mathematics.  

    But there is also discontinuity.  

    The simple poles of a meromorphic function determine its value everywhere.  

    Here, in the pre-Disclosure regime, the poles/portals are sparse.  

    Post-Disclosure, the poles turn dense, as we head into the rapturous Millennium.  

    We are not overly impatient to venture therein.  

    Certainly not the ufologists on Grant’s YouTube meeting, yesterday.  

    We know that Grant knows better...... Mr Managing Magic!  


    1430..........

    Old time ufologers are in the same predicament as Christians........

    They have a piece of the Truth, and they will hang onto it for dear life.  


    As a side note....... many referred to a Mr X.  

    I strongly suspect that their Mr X is the same as our Mr T...... T being a fish name..... the third one.  

    There just aren’t that many Xs to go around, and I know that our Mr T is well known to Grant&Co.  

    Mr T is a bit like our Mr C........ loyal opposition.  

    Mr T knew about the UB incident, years before he let on to foot 🦶.  He doesn’t miss much.  He sure didn’t miss Frevor.  I’m sure he would have been one of the first onto the Wilson/Davis incident.  

    Small world........

    All these folks can revel in their exclusivity.  

    chick 🐥 comes along....... the big party pooper...... the Monadologist..... the one that everyone studiously avoids...... with the exception of my favorite assassin.    

    If you want to see the Truth, you have to be willing to look in plain sight...... it’s similar to love, in that way.  

    The ufologers are looking for Truth under every rock.


    1520........

    Anyway........ Mr D was the accidental Antichrist....... until donny showed up.  

    Charlie was the archeological bulldozer....... no tradition could stand in his way.  

    If you believe in time, you believe in Charlie.  

    To give up on Charlie is to give up on time.  

    That is a tall hurdle...... a veritable quantum barrier..... for us, mortals.  

    Let’s just say that giving up on time is an acquired taste.  

    The only way to get through that barrier is to cheat...... it’s called quantum tunneling...... which is another form of entanglement..... an entanglement with the pleroma...... the sensorium of the gods.  

    Ok, yes, the quantum tunnel is just another version of the portal.  

    It can be microscopic...... it can be macroscopic....... just like entanglement.  

    Entanglement is the basis of monism...... monism is the basis entanglement.  

    Mathematics is the carrier of entanglement in the microscopic dimension.  

    Mathematics is meromorphic with respect to the natural numbers...... as space and time are with respect to persons.  

    The Quantum is the purchase that mathematics has upon the physical.... upon the material.  

    We have a difficult time envisioning entanglement in the macroscopic.  

    That is something the artist has to convey....... often through the Logos.  

    Entanglement is the skein of love.  

    Love is definitely meromorphic.  


    2150........

    Conversing with 3 about why we are here.......

    The suggestion is that the world is a playground.  

    The game down here is about winning, until the best are left.  

    Left for what....... asks chick 🐥.  

    I had suggested that it’s not whether we win or lose........

    Curiously, Jordan Peterson’s take is featured.  He says it’s about developing character.  

    And what is character?  

    Character has many dimensions of measure.  Lovable is not on the list.  

    The jguy is the most loved.  

    I’m only here to prove that truth = love...... to facilitate love.  

    I’m also here to facilitate the end of the world.  

    Love is the end of the world....... the Big Love.  

    Love can only be facilitated in a personal world.  

    Otherwise, love is an accident.  

    Is it important that love wins?  

    Isn’t it more heroic to be able to love in a loveless world....... against all odds?  

    Well, I’d rather fail at something that ultimately succeeds, than the other way.  

    Is love a lost cause?  

    Who is the patron saint of lost causes?  

    Jude is the patron saint of lost causes.

    Not quite........ Jude is the patron saint of desperate causes.

    Big difference, imho.  

    In the world today, isn’t love in desperate straits?  


    2250........

    If you had an eternity to design and choreograph a world, would this not be a world where love can succeed........ where love will succeed..... where all forms of hate will be defeated?

    Would this not be the best possible world?



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    “Find what you love and let it kill you.”
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    Post by dan Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:37 am

    1240z.........

    I understand that I have no basis to complain about the best possible ufology strategy.  

    If they were to follow my lead, and take on the entire modern world view, ie. take on the Eschaton, they would never have gotten out of the starting blocks.  

    As it is, with traditional ufology, considerable inroads have been made into the MWV, that could not have been made, otherwise.  

    And even so, the consciousness angle is being downplayed by Mr Consciousness Cameron, himself.

    The Wilson/Davis incident is being played as if it were military-industrial intrigue.  

    The visitor angle is also being played down, even though it is widely acknowledged that you can’t fly the craft without the critter.  

    The craft is the actuator for the critter and/or the critter is the actuator for craft.  

    Keep in mind the Utsuro Bune (UB/hollow ship) incident.  

    In that case there is a human/Caucasian appearing woman, clutching a box while standing next to the craft.  

    The UB was certainly not a crash retrieval incident...... quite the contrary....... it was simply a visit...... a hello and good bye?

    It makes a lot more sense.  

    Many ufologists have pointed out that the whole ufo 🛸 crash business is highly suspect....... like something that has been staged.  

    The UB incident was in Japan, in the early 1800s.  

    In the early 1900s, there were similar ‘airship’ incidents in the Midwest.  

    Picture this........ while the ‘airship’ hovered over a farmer’s field, a ladder would be lowered.... a semi human appearing figure would climb down the ladder, and ask for directions to the nearest town.  

    I mean........ really!  You come a trillion miles and you lose a hubcap or forgot to bring a road map?  

    Come on, guys and gals.......


    1400.......

    But, yes, we have Congressional committees playing this same game, with the same ufologists.  

    Hey, don’t knock it, this is progress, sports 🏀 fans 💗!

    Just don’t mention the E word.  


    So, ok, let’s talk turkey 🦃.........

    The craft is useless without the critter.  

    Everyone agrees that there have been retrievals..... including retrieved critters...... in more or less desperate straits.  

    Ok, so what happened to them?  Most rumors have them perishing.  

    But then there is the Core story of the Aviary..... of the three Visitors..... historian, technician and philosopher...... one of whom was female, and at least one of whom could pass as human...... arriving in twenty year intervals.  

    Then we have the Aquarium story with the reluctant Princess.  

    She would rather concern herself with turtles 🐢...... not so much with humans.  

    Let’s call the UB lady, Charlene.  Does Charlene = #3?  

    Maybe yes..... maybe no.  

    Does it make any difference?

    Maybe not.  

    It depends on whether you believe in magic, or not.  

    A lot of us, moderns, disavow magic........ but it’s even stronger than that....... mention magic, and you might as well have stepped in a cow 🐄 flop.  


    1520.........

    The disavowal is studious....... beyond all study.  

    Then mention consciousness....... and all serious minded folks are scrambling for the exits....... yes, it’s like yelling fire 🔥 in a crowded theater.  

    This is how chick 🐥 looks at it.........

    I believe in magic.  

    I believe in persons.  

    I truly don’t think you can separate the two.  

    Politically, it is expedient...... it is an absolute necessity to do so.  

    Can you take the magic out of #3?  

    Maybe, but I don’t think you can take #3 out of the magic.  

    By that I’m referring to the weird desk.  

    I’m referring to 3 + 2......... I mean, really, Princess.  

    This is not the place to hide........ but here we are, playing hide & seek..... until the cows 🐄 come home.  

    If only I looked more like a turtle 🐢...... or a turkey 🦃...... gobble, gobble........ anything but a chick 🐥!  

    And I’m not getting any younger.  

    Folks are waiting for someone to make a move.  When do I make my move on 3?  

    If donny doesn’t make a move out of the doldrums, we are running out of time...... the both of us.  

    Who will blink first?  


    1620.........

    Chicken not getting any younger
    Chicken on borrowed time
    And what about donald?  
    Is he not on borrowed time?  
    As we enter the summer doldrums......
    I mean....... are we forgetting about Panama 🇵🇦?  


    1930...........

    I get the impression that we may still be in line for an October Surprise.  

    Israel is playing a role in this...... and it may involve the annexation of the West Bank, among other things, which, in itself, would be no surprise, but it would set the stage.  

    There could be another attempt at a desert rendezvous, for instance.  

    It would be surprising if there weren’t a queen bee 🐝 somewhere..... likely hidden in plain sight...... and it has to be a small world.  

    It would not make any sense for the global intelligence community to not be kept abreast of these developments.  

    Disclosure is gonna have to be a package 📦 deal....... once anything comes out, it’s all gonna have to come out.  

    I don’t think there is any question about the deal.  

    Too big a shock?

    What happened to the word of mouth part?  

    The word of mouth part has been pushed about as far as it can be, without spilling the beans.  

    This time around, I don’t think it will be possible to have another abort, like last time.  

    The impact of the Wuhan virus 🦠, mild though it has been, should not be underestimated.  The situation has changed pretty drastically, in the last four years.  


    2030.........

    There is a concern, with respect to the gates of Heaven, that, we’ll get our foot in the door....... or, given an inch, we’ll take a mile.  

    Ok, but that risk is not likely to improve in the future.  As the situation on this side deteriorates, we’re much more likely to be storming the gates.  

    If this were an airplane, we’d be hearing the stall warning buzzer.  The stall, itself, is not terminal, but the tailspin is.  

    Are we to be granted four more years of hanging on the edge?

    I wouldn’t count on it.  

    But, hey, isn’t this about the Eschaton?  

    It is, and ours will be the best possible Eschaton.  

    But that’s not an invitation to tempt fate....... to tempt the Lord.  

    If you want to throw a monkey 🐵 wrench 🔧 in the works...... to throw sand in the gears....... hey, make our day.  

    When we go to the well..... it’s not the time for us to be playing games.  


    0040........

    Chivo might get away with not moving, but not sure that anyone else will.



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    The 🐐 says there is no need to move or do anything at all.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:59 pm

    I speak only for myself of course.

    You muppets can do as you like.

    We are in a world of inequality, but that’s the great thing about life I feel.

    We are unequal.

    We need each other.

    We are not interchangeable.

    We are not commodities.

    We are human beings.

    For me to be where I am means being the best husband I can be, the best friend, the best brother and son and the best at what I do.

    So it is not that there is no movement.

    It is just that I am living with my choices.

    But I choose less and less.

    The problems all have seemed to not stick here.

    I don’t get why we can’t accept each other as different from the other as we are.

    Uniformity is a god damn sin.

    We will not bring the end by being one or thinking the same.

    Only when we celebrate the difference are we closer to life.  

    There is something else much deeper flowing.

    You know what I was enlightened to, that the world needs me where I am.

    And it was not just being a scapegoat and living on the edge.

    Oh no.

    That voice in me moved me back into the family who shunned me.

    Right back into my marriage and friendships.

    I stand on the street content to be the mangy smelly 🐐

    I have to by my individual self here aware of it.

    And I have to let them spit at and kick and curse me.

    I have to live in this.

    I get to be totally aware of my own alone with the alone journey.

    I feel my self in the middle of this.

    I have a responsibility to add my part to the graph of human beings.

    That’s what I feel anyway.

    I’m not wasting my life searching for documents.

    For others maybe they live to find those documents.

    Shrug.

    No one will ever know what I know and I will never know what you all know.

    So we should keep the dialogues going.

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    A number is an abstraction of a magnitude.
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    Post by dan Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:48 am

    1350z.......

    Is smelly waking up to his status as a featherless biped, with one foot in heaven?  Princess has a foot 🦶 on the ground.  

    So what’s the big difference in dying or going through a portal?

    Is the Wuhan virus 🦠 the poor man’s portal?

    chick 🐥 has been a little bit inconsistent about....... surge events...... about the predator/prey dynamic....... having to do with synchronized hatchings 🐣.  

    It’s partly covered by r/K selection theory in population ecology.  

    The point is that I may have been too quick to dismiss foot’s 🦶 virus 🦠...... let’s call it fV..... the one that’s leaner and meaner...... like an airborne Ebola with a two week incubation.  

    Clearly there are times when synchronized crossings are indicated..... and the Eschaton may be one of those times.  

    The whole idea of the Millennium is to downplay the Eschaton.  

    We can call this catastrophe theory..... which is a mathematical discipline...... Rene Thom..... mostly in developmental ontogeny.  

    Clearly, if we’re talking metamorphosis, synchrony is de rigeur.... or something like that....... cancer v chrysalis, etc...... the chrysalis has to keep a jump ahead of the cancer.  Final participation, communalism, has to keep a jump ahead of the original participation, tribalism.  

    Who is the main predator, with regard to the Eschaton?  Which side will the predator be on?  

    We have met the enemy, and he is us....... throwing sand in the gears?  


    1520........

    Instead of surge protection, we would have protection by surge, in other words.  

    Obviously, this is a tricky issue, that not many of us really wish to think 🤔 about it.  

    So, ok, w/cV could be just a dress rehearsal for fV.  

    Wuhan is a bit impersonal...... so we can let it be chick’s..... if nobody minds too much....... so vegas was a warmup for cV, which, in turn, is a warmup for fV..... I mean just for the sake of discussion.  

    If, in the meantime, someone comes up with a free energy device, be sure to let us know.  

    Then we could put fV back in the can....... until...... a bit later.  

    Even just controlled fusion might do the trick, if we get cold 🥶 feet 🦶 about going cold turkey 🦃 with fV.  

    Controlled fusion is a bit like artificial consciousness (aCs)....... it’s always been just around the corner.  


    1600.......

    Ok, sports 🏀 fans 💗, how might these considerations influence our precious Disclosure?

    Would they not tend to render it more problematic?  

    Does this explain the Princess’ diffidence with regard to portal access?

    It could be that fV would be a necessary primer for global portal access...... where the access would be midTrib..... as some folks like to say.  

    Now let’s suppose chick 🐥 had 2 sources...... s1 and s2.  

    s1 all alleges that s2 has no clearance.

    Ok, but what is that clause in the Constitution...... about church and state....... it’s the Establishment clause of the first amendment.

    It could be apples 🍎 and oranges 🍊 ....... s1 and s2 are operating on the two different sides of that clause.

    It seems that s2 has his own little procedure to cover that track..... muddy paws 🐾 will never do.  

    It’s a bit like how the creator goes about covering her tracks.  

    Or the more mud the better.  


    1700........

    The FP v OP competition plays out ...... inside and out...... it’s complicated.  

    Why does it have to be so complicated?  

    Hey, sports 🏀 fans 💗, the acrobatics is half the fun.  

    It seems that chick 🐥 gets to play both sides of every street...... what a hoot 🦉..... but it’s not an option..... is it.... it’s all part of the package 📦.



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    Hop Chicken Hop. Kins of the Earth may Bop. Don't throw in the Mop. Sam can climb on Top. Too much time in transit but he could not just Stop.


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